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Question: Closing BTC Price June 17:
$0 - 2 (1.8%)
<$6,500 - 7 (6.1%)
$6,500-$6,750 - 1 (0.9%)
$6,751-$7,000 - 2 (1.8%)
$7,001-$7,250 - 3 (2.6%)
$7,251-$7,500 - 6 (5.3%)
$7,501-$7,750 - 4 (3.5%)
$7,751-$8,000 - 12 (10.5%)
$8,001-$8,250 - 13 (11.4%)
$8,251-$8,500 - 6 (5.3%)
$8,501-$8,750 - 6 (5.3%)
$8,751-$9,000 - 11 (9.6%)
$9,001,$9,250 - 10 (8.8%)
$9,251-$9,500 - 9 (7.9%)
>$9,500 - 15 (13.2%)
$20,000 - 7 (6.1%)
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March 15, 2019, 02:37:26 PM

We will relatively soon get to a point where people will be able to create their vision at will (at first digitally only), and value will be derived based on how capable a person is to create an experience of interest to others.

I've already seen other people bring up this shitcoiner topic before, that EVERYONE will have their own coin that derives value from what they produce or whatever.  Assuming you could even make it work with all the interchangeability problems, most people simply produce nothing, so it's like....lol?  You are aware of the term bread and circus right?  

Welfare is money you bribe poor people with so they don't murder you in your sleep and take your stuff.  In that regard, any change back to a non-fantasy land, fraudulent monetary system is probably going to involve enormous taxes on 'the haves' to distribute bread to the people who produce nothing to stop them from burning down the planet.  Well, actually, just the cost of handing out food would be low and not requiring enormous taxes, but that assumes you completely abolish the entire military money laundering scam, medicare money laundering scam, and all other fraudulent govt programs.
By digitally only I mean that people will create virtual worlds and experiences that others will choose to consume. Similar to Youtube, Twitch and Patreon today but on a much larger scale.

Costs are on an exponential downward slope for any physically produced good that the government or other such players don't have their hands in. As such, there will be no need for labour in the traditional sense. And value and money will literally just be brownie points exchanged between different parties. For this even shitcoins would fit the bill. But I think that something like Bitcoin will be the common denominator, as central bank fiat currencies are inflating too much.

But do you need VR.

Dreams are full reality to you, so you have all the equipment already.

Just needs some way to tap into lucid dreaming or trigger a certain sort of dream. eg High pleasure dream sir?  
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Why would we run out of electricity?
We have been producing electricity for over 100 years now, during countless wars and crisis, and with many different methods. Sure there might be temporary blackouts locally, but a total, for ever, worldwide blackout? Not gonna happen.

EMPs, magnetic pole shift, solar flare....
It could happen... Remote chance but it could happen....

I Don't see a pole shift interfering with electricity production, the other two are real threats, but it will still only be local and temporary (and a good reason to have an old pre electronic car in your garage as a backup, together with sufficient amounts of gasoline, and some vital electronics and devices in a Faraday's cage for spare just in case).
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March 15, 2019, 02:44:55 PM

Breaking $4,000 is so close yet seems so significant. I’m not sure why but $4,000 seems like a psychological barrier to break & stay above.
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Why would we run out of electricity?
We have been producing electricity for over 100 years now, during countless wars and crisis, and with many different methods. Sure there might be temporary blackouts locally, but a total, for ever, worldwide blackout? Not gonna happen.

EMPs, magnetic pole shift, solar flare....
It could happen... Remote chance but it could happen....

I Don't see a pole shift interfering with electricity production, the other two are real threats, but it will still only be local and temporary (and a good reason to have an old pre electronic car in your garage as a backup, together with sufficient amounts of gasoline, and some vital electronics and devices in a Faraday's cage for spare just in case).

I understand your reaction, I cannot explain it but I know that it will get disrupted.

Quote from NationalGeographic:
"Many facets of our lives depend on the Earth’s magnetic field, anchored by the North and South poles, from the electrical grid that powers our computers to the satellites that let us watch TV."

Anyway in a polar flip the ozone layer will disappear for a lot of years and we will get cooked or irradiated Smiley
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No surprises here



Interesting.  I would have put you with quite a bit more positive Y axis Hairy.  You always seem to be looking to the state for solutions in your posts.
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Has there been a massive MSM outrage yet? Against the letter?

Far right, hardcore anti-immigration senator from Australia? Unlikely there will be.

But the idea that somehow immigrants are responsible for their own unprovoked, cold-blooded murder is fucking sickening.

And accurate.

You don't have to like it, but it is a fact that Islam is fundamentally incompatible with western culture. They have no business here. And no place at all to play victims.

So let me get this straight: you're saying they deserved to be massacred? And being a victim of a massacre isn't an appropriate time to "play victim"?

Yes. And their little children too, they are all part of the same group.

But not their dogs.

And no, I am not joking. The dogs did nothing wrong.

I wonder how someone could be intelligent enough to open an account on this forum but then retarded enough to condone a massacre of innocent people.

Thank you for your emotional ourburst. It was exactly what I expected. As a wise person once said, NPCs are gonna NPC.

Can you explain, with facts and numbers and cause and effect, why I am wrong? Your personal emotions in this moment are not evidence of anything.

Well actually you Ibian is the one who should explain with facts and numbers and cause and effect why you would be right in saying that some people deserve to be massacred and emphasizing the massacre of their children too...
I know you don't need it (and probably don't deserve it either) but I somehow pity you, go figure.

If you adhere to a religion that condones and even encourages terrorism and slaughter of anyone that holds another opinion then your own, you are not innocent.

There is no doubt about that, but implying that Islam is a religion that condones and even encourages terrorism and slaughter of anyone that holds another opinion then your own seems far from accurate (and I'm being nice).
Can you explain, with facts and numbers and cause and effect where this comes from?

You guys are quite the funny bunch, thanks for the entertainment Kiss
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Why would we run out of electricity?
We have been producing electricity for over 100 years now, during countless wars and crisis, and with many different methods. Sure there might be temporary blackouts locally, but a total, for ever, worldwide blackout? Not gonna happen.

EMPs, magnetic pole shift, solar flare....
It could happen... Remote chance but it could happen....

I Don't see a pole shift interfering with electricity production, the other two are real threats, but it will still only be local and temporary (and a good reason to have an old pre electronic car in your garage as a backup, together with sufficient amounts of gasoline, and some vital electronics and devices in a Faraday's cage for spare just in case).

I understand your reaction, I cannot explain it but I know that it will get disrupted.

Quote from NationalGeographic:
"Many facets of our lives depend on the Earth’s magnetic field, anchored by the North and South poles, from the electrical grid that powers our computers to the satellites that let us watch TV."

Anyway in a polar flip the ozone layer will disappear for a lot of years and we will get cooked or irradiated Smiley

But how?
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Breaking $4,000 is so close yet seems so significant. I’m not sure why but $4,000 seems like a psychological barrier to break & stay above.

$5000 is the definite end of the bear market imo, we have breached $4000 a couple of times bit dipped below shortly after.
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No surprises here


Interesting.  I would have put you with quite a bit more positive Y axis Hairy.  You always seem to be looking to the state for solutions in your posts.
I too thought I would end up only slightly negative on both axes.

As for appeal to state authority for solutions, it's probably just realism. Steering from above can change minds in due course.
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Has there been a massive MSM outrage yet? Against the letter?

Far right, hardcore anti-immigration senator from Australia? Unlikely there will be.

But the idea that somehow immigrants are responsible for their own unprovoked, cold-blooded murder is fucking sickening.

And accurate.

You don't have to like it, but it is a fact that Islam is fundamentally incompatible with western culture. They have no business here. And no place at all to play victims.

So let me get this straight: you're saying they deserved to be massacred? And being a victim of a massacre isn't an appropriate time to "play victim"?

Yes. And their little children too, they are all part of the same group.

But not their dogs.

And no, I am not joking. The dogs did nothing wrong.

I wonder how someone could be intelligent enough to open an account on this forum but then retarded enough to condone a massacre of innocent people.

Thank you for your emotional ourburst. It was exactly what I expected. As a wise person once said, NPCs are gonna NPC.

Can you explain, with facts and numbers and cause and effect, why I am wrong? Your personal emotions in this moment are not evidence of anything.

Well actually you Ibian is the one who should explain with facts and numbers and cause and effect why you would be right in saying that some people deserve to be massacred and emphasizing the massacre of their children too...
I know you don't need it (and probably don't deserve it either) but I somehow pity you, go figure.

If you adhere to a religion that condones and even encourages terrorism and slaughter of anyone that holds another opinion then your own, you are not innocent.

There is no doubt about that, but implying that Islam is a religion that condones and even encourages terrorism and slaughter of anyone that holds another opinion then your own seems far from accurate (and I'm being nice).
Can you explain, with facts and numbers and cause and effect where this comes from?

You guys are quite the funny bunch, thanks for the entertainment Kiss

It comes from the koran. To much text for this thread, so here's a link http://www.deceptioninthechurch.com/koran.html.
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Why would we run out of electricity?
We have been producing electricity for over 100 years now, during countless wars and crisis, and with many different methods. Sure there might be temporary blackouts locally, but a total, for ever, worldwide blackout? Not gonna happen.

Yeah, I am unlikely to forget how to spin a coil against a magnet...might have to fall back to external combustion for the kinetic input though.
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As for a "beginner level" introduction, I'm not really aware of any that isn't gritty rigorous Math. And in that case any would be as good as any other I suppose, since the definitions are always the same (except for perhaps the symbols used). If you feel like digging deeper I'm sure you'll find any number of resources on Google. All my notes and books for these topics are in non-English though, so I can't recommend you any reference here. But alas.

[2+2 <> 4]

quite interesting, thanks for giving me something new to chew on.

initially i thought you were referring to some sort of quantum effect as applied to math, as it seems quantum effects can create temporary energy as long as its "paid back" (like say a number, but not number in abstract, more like now when there was one something there are 2 somethings or 0 somethings.

i only went as far trig and some calc.. when i hit calc, and didnt see a traditional number on any page  till like 50 pages in, my brain just stalled.

too busy then partying the best days of my life away. some regrets, but not many.
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Interesting.  I would have put you with quite a bit more positive Y axis Hairy.  You always seem to be looking to the state for solutions in your posts.
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Mass shooting in New Zealand.  Multiple armed perps(??).  Attack on two mosques. Multiple fatalities recorded. 

Obviously terrorism.   Will see if reported as such. Bangladesh cricket team arriving by bus as attack commenced but drove off.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/03/14/asia/christchurch-mosque-shooting-intl/

Edit:  TVNZ reporter has seen shooter’s manifesto. Is White Supremacist madness with objective of inciting a race war and conflict over Second Amendment. 

https://www.tvnz.co.nz/one-news/new-zealand/live-mass-shooting-christchurch-mosque-police-respond-active-shooter-situation?variant=tb_v_1

Shooting was live streamed. 

This is obviously horrifying.  Possible that young children targeted.   I would ask that some of the more committed racists on this thread take the opportunity to reflect on our common humanity.  I would also ask that some of the bystanders to casual racism here take a stand against it.  And I don’t want to hear shitty stories about how you don’t like Muslims but wouldn’t shoot up a mosque.  If you encourage an atmosphere of racism, then you are part of the problem.

Awful day. I hope everything gets alright and we don't get to see such TERRORISM in future, in any part of the world. Even Australian mosques can currently feel the heat of the attack, as they've been put on high alert (with an exception of the ones in Queensland, everything seems absolutely calm here in Brisbane).

Bangladesh cricket team arriving by bus as attack commenced but drove off.

Sri Lankan cricket team (in a bus) was attacked by terrorists in 2009, in Lahore, Pakistan. Everyone remained safe in that attack, and the remaining matches of the cricket match series were canceled. ICC (International Cricket Council), after the attack, immediately marked Pakistan as unsafe for international cricketers and didn't allow Pakistan to host any international series within Pakistan; they told that Pakistan should make UAE its homeground, and since then, all of the Pakistani home series have been played in Dubai/Sharjah/Abu Dhabi. 10 years on and Pakistan Cricket Board (PCB) is still trying to convince ICC (and cricket boards of Australia/New Zealand/England/etc) that Pakistan has now become safe enough to host cricket series and the teams should come and play without any issues.

Cricket is more than just a sport for the people of South Asia (India/Pakistan/Bangladesh/Sri Lanka), so this was an extremely hurting decision by the ICC for Pakistanis.

...and I'm sure that ICC won't be stopping New Zealand from hosting matches even for a year, just because of the white p... well... nothing. Roll Eyes
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March 15, 2019, 03:04:14 PM

Has there been a massive MSM outrage yet? Against the letter?

Far right, hardcore anti-immigration senator from Australia? Unlikely there will be.

But the idea that somehow immigrants are responsible for their own unprovoked, cold-blooded murder is fucking sickening.

And accurate.

You don't have to like it, but it is a fact that Islam is fundamentally incompatible with western culture. They have no business here. And no place at all to play victims.

So let me get this straight: you're saying they deserved to be massacred? And being a victim of a massacre isn't an appropriate time to "play victim"?

Yes. And their little children too, they are all part of the same group.

But not their dogs.

And no, I am not joking. The dogs did nothing wrong.

I wonder how someone could be intelligent enough to open an account on this forum but then retarded enough to condone a massacre of innocent people.

Thank you for your emotional ourburst. It was exactly what I expected. As a wise person once said, NPCs are gonna NPC.

Can you explain, with facts and numbers and cause and effect, why I am wrong? Your personal emotions in this moment are not evidence of anything.

Well actually you Ibian is the one who should explain with facts and numbers and cause and effect why you would be right in saying that some people deserve to be massacred and emphasizing the massacre of their children too...
I know you don't need it (and probably don't deserve it either) but I somehow pity you, go figure.

If you adhere to a religion that condones and even encourages terrorism and slaughter of anyone that holds another opinion then your own, you are not innocent.

There is no doubt about that, but implying that Islam is a religion that condones and even encourages terrorism and slaughter of anyone that holds another opinion then your own seems far from accurate (and I'm being nice).
Can you explain, with facts and numbers and cause and effect where this comes from?

You guys are quite the funny bunch, thanks for the entertainment Kiss
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Sega partnered with Retro-bit and gave them the molds and all the specifications for the original 6-button Genesis and Sega Saturn controller and is releasing USB versions.
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If you don't want one someone like Infofront in the thread probably will.  Virtually every D-pad on all PC compatible USB controllers released is complete garbage, so this will probably be the first exception.
Never mind, I might've misinterpreted your post then. I thought you were implying that I only care about mundane things such as retro game pads that are often associated with weird hipsters (which I got some of the classic consoles because I've grown up with them though).

I redact my statement if that was not your intent and thank you for sharing if it was meant to genuinely spread awareness of something you feel others might want.

cool. my buds and i spend way too much time on the sega back in the day.. road rash 2 mainly.

the sega controller was one of the best aside from occasional contact bounce (double trigger on one press) and we wore out several.

havent build a good emulator system in years, its time to build a better one, need to build a good cabinet though, already have most of the rest.
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A Japanese court found Mark Carpels guilty of manipulating the data, but found no evidence of theft.  As a result, the former head of Mt.Gox received two and a half years probation.  Marku's good behavior over the next four years will help him escape prison.

Yup he got probation, just like what bankes get. Bitcoin had not change anything really.
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Why would we run out of electricity?
We have been producing electricity for over 100 years now, during countless wars and crisis, and with many different methods. Sure there might be temporary blackouts locally, but a total, for ever, worldwide blackout? Not gonna happen.

EMPs, magnetic pole shift, solar flare....
It could happen... Remote chance but it could happen....

I Don't see a pole shift interfering with electricity production, the other two are real threats, but it will still only be local and temporary (and a good reason to have an old pre electronic car in your garage as a backup, together with sufficient amounts of gasoline, and some vital electronics and devices in a Faraday's cage for spare just in case).

I understand your reaction, I cannot explain it but I know that it will get disrupted.

Quote from NationalGeographic:
"Many facets of our lives depend on the Earth’s magnetic field, anchored by the North and South poles, from the electrical grid that powers our computers to the satellites that let us watch TV."

Anyway in a polar flip the ozone layer will disappear for a lot of years and we will get cooked or irradiated Smiley

But how?

Apparently, world had experienced a huge solar flare in around 660 BC (https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a26817934/solar-storm-greenland/), the size of "an electrical grid would be down for months if not years" and that was with earth magnetic field intact. The last event that was previously recorded was a famous Carrington event in 1856 (with no electrical grid present yet).

The movement of poles have an intermediate stage where magnetosphere becomes chaotic. See:
https://www.livescience.com/18426-earth-magnetic-poles-flip.html

Well, I guess that a combination of a largish flare and chaotic magnetosphere would be an ELE (extinction level event).
Hopefully, before that we would travel to the stars.
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Why would we run out of electricity?
We have been producing electricity for over 100 years now, during countless wars and crisis, and with many different methods. Sure there might be temporary blackouts locally, but a total, for ever, worldwide blackout? Not gonna happen.

EMPs, magnetic pole shift, solar flare....
It could happen... Remote chance but it could happen....

I Don't see a pole shift interfering with electricity production, the other two are real threats, but it will still only be local and temporary (and a good reason to have an old pre electronic car in your garage as a backup, together with sufficient amounts of gasoline, and some vital electronics and devices in a Faraday's cage for spare just in case).

I understand your reaction, I cannot explain it but I know that it will get disrupted.

Quote from NationalGeographic:
"Many facets of our lives depend on the Earth’s magnetic field, anchored by the North and South poles, from the electrical grid that powers our computers to the satellites that let us watch TV."

Anyway in a polar flip the ozone layer will disappear for a lot of years and we will get cooked or irradiated Smiley

But how?

Apparently, world had experienced a huge solar flare in around 660 BC (https://www.popularmechanics.com/science/environment/a26817934/solar-storm-greenland/), the size of "an electrical grid would be down for months if not years" and that was with earth magnetic field intact. The last event that was previously recorded was a famous Carrington event in 1856 (with no electrical grid present yet).

The movement of poles have an intermediate stage where magnetosphere becomes chaotic. See:
https://www.livescience.com/18426-earth-magnetic-poles-flip.html

Well, I guess that a combination of a largish flare and chaotic magnetosphere would be an ELE (extinction level event).
Hopefully, before that we would travel to the stars.

I'm well aware of the solar flares, it's the changing of the magnetic poles i don't see as any reason for alarm. I read a paper (can't find it now) that had looked into earlier changes and come to the conclusion that it did't really affect life on earth. And I don't see how it can possibly affect the production of electricity, they are not related.
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And also, just to reignite the climate debate. http://www.sciencebits.com/CosmicRays_Climate_TheMissingLink
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