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[rebal15]

Libra poisoned the well.

It would almost certainly destabilize currencies and even countries if/when let loose.
Example: a country has NIRP...Libra does not...so, you sell local currency and pocket the % (of NIRP) every year; or, you are in a non G-7 country...you sell local currency and buy Libra (a basket is almost always better than a single one). India and Russia-first two large countries to ban Libra on day one, I think.

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.
If I was one of bitcoin leaders or code contributors (and I am not), I would greatly accelerate Lightning wallets development.
On a positive side, some in Congress (and not in Senate) seem to understand the difference between something that is decentralized and centralized.

What do you mean with "bitcoin leaders"?

opinion leaders, what else, bud.

How is your wait for sub $9k coins going bud?

Are you getting nervous, yet?

And, you also had suggested that you might be waiting for much lower prices.  Didn't you suggest $7.5k price area as a more deeper correction wave?

Regarding my earlier post, captured below.  I believe that I am in need to request an extension of time for our "imminent" momentum to re-visit supra $10k.  Another 24 hours could be enough, perhaps?  Should I give up on supra $10k?  Are we "going down, before up?"  just askin (sayin).                

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Are we in concordance about anything?

I would like to be in concordance that it surely looks like we are imminently about to re-visit supra $10k.   The next hours seem to be critical.^tm

I would prefer to talk about the term "bitcoin leaders" not about "bitcoin price".
If you have any explanation?

[Biodom]

Libra poisoned the well.

It would almost certainly destabilize currencies and even countries if/when let loose.
Example: a country has NIRP...Libra does not...so, you sell local currency and pocket the % (of NIRP) every year; or, you are in a non G-7 country...you sell local currency and buy Libra (a basket is almost always better than a single one). India and Russia-first two large countries to ban Libra on day one, I think.

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.
If I was one of bitcoin leaders or code contributors (and I am not), I would greatly accelerate Lightning wallets development.
On a positive side, some in Congress (and not in Senate) seem to understand the difference between something that is decentralized and centralized.

What do you mean with "bitcoin leaders"?

opinion leaders, what else, bud.

You mean like political leaders.

no, the exact opposite

So, the anarchist leaders.

no, knowledge leaders, aka someone who knows math.

[rebal15]

Libra poisoned the well.

It would almost certainly destabilize currencies and even countries if/when let loose.
Example: a country has NIRP...Libra does not...so, you sell local currency and pocket the % (of NIRP) every year; or, you are in a non G-7 country...you sell local currency and buy Libra (a basket is almost always better than a single one). India and Russia-first two large countries to ban Libra on day one, I think.

Regarding libra and bitcoin-not sure how it would affect it, but i disagree about any optimism.
If I was one of bitcoin leaders or code contributors (and I am not), I would greatly accelerate Lightning wallets development.
On a positive side, some in Congress (and not in Senate) seem to understand the difference between something that is decentralized and centralized.

What do you mean with "bitcoin leaders"?

opinion leaders, what else, bud.

You mean like political leaders.

no, the exact opposite

So, the anarchist leaders.

no, knowledge leaders, aka someone who knows math.

Ok, so they are developers.

[JayJuanGee]

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I would prefer to talk about the term "bitcoin leaders" not about "bitcoin price".
If you have any explanation?

Of course, you would, you troll-laden unable to focus diptwat, raising questions about stupid-ass shit that does not really matter in order that you might be able to hook onto some troll/shill talking points to distract from more "important" stuff.

Speaking of "important stuff," earlier today we were opining about risks of attempting to kill bears by spear.  Holy shit.

[realr0ach]

What's wrong with Buttunlocker?    Account hacked or another roach-wannabe?  

Shitunlocker is Jewish cointelpro.  His purpose is to spam the thread with jibberish to try and distract people anytime he sees me talking about Jewish crimes and financial Ponzi schemes.  Can't have the goyim knowing (woops too late).

[JayJuanGee]

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Ok, so they are developers.

Lookie uie...

Trying to get Biodom to take your bait.

who gives any shits about what Biodom or any of us say about bitcoin thought leaders or opinion leaders...?


Bitcoin is ultimately a platform that has a multitude of networking effects, and growth with various aspects of the network have different people who are more influential than others, but it is a moving target of a whole hell of a lot of decentralization, driven by market motives, contribution to open source and sound money, and incentives to produce and/or compete to produce quality product without compromising basic principles of sound money, security, collaboration and the ability of others to build on prior work.

Some folks have more influence in various networks of bitcoin's space than others in terms of the kind of sense that they talk and their NOT getting distracted by shitcoin talk, scams, pump and dumbs or various other distracting talk, but in the end, there are no exact leaders.. to say,,, take me to your leader... you diptwat..

You seem to have been attempting to explode the context of Biodom's prior comment about leaders influencing bitcoin and to hook onto some bullshit in order to suggest that there is some kind of bitcoin leaders - even though some people might be influential in development and making proposals, but their proposals need to be accepted and adopted, to the extent that they come up with some good ideas and direction that they want to attempt to push, whether on bitcoin or lightning or anything that is tying into core aspects of bitcoin's way forward, you fuck.

[rebal15]

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I would prefer to talk about the term "bitcoin leaders" not about "bitcoin price".
If you have any explanation?

Of course, you would, you troll-laden unable to focus diptwat, raising questions about stupid-ass shit that does not really matter in order that you might be able to hook onto some troll/shill talking points to distract from more "important" stuff.

Speaking of "important stuff," earlier today we were opining about risks of attempting to kill bears by spear.  Holy shit.

I am not trolling. I was accused of by a stupid hodlers when I said that sec will never accept BTC ETF and gov will not adopt BTC. My opinions are based on what i know about BTC and what BTC is aiming for. After all, it is my choise to buy or sell.

[JayJuanGee]

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I would prefer to talk about the term "bitcoin leaders" not about "bitcoin price".
If you have any explanation?

Of course, you would, you troll-laden unable to focus diptwat, raising questions about stupid-ass shit that does not really matter in order that you might be able to hook onto some troll/shill talking points to distract from more "important" stuff.

Speaking of "important stuff," earlier today we were opining about risks of attempting to kill bears by spear.  Holy shit.

I am not trolling. I was accused of by a stupid hodlers when I said that sec will never accept BTC ETF and gov will not adopt BTC. My opinions are based on what i know about BTC and what BTC is aiming for. After all, it is my choise to buy or sell.

I will admit that every once in a while you might make a post that makes some sense, but you have a pretty damned large tendency to spout out a lot of nonsense that likely would put you in the category of troll/shill...

So, yeah, if you start to post more genuinely, then maybe people like me or others in this thread will start to take your comments more seriously in terms of their attempt to meaningful contributions... I, personally, have seen very little of that coming from your posts, but yeah, o.k. I would not mind if you actually would improve your posts and start to make some more sensible and important points beyond spouting largely nonsense.  Good luck with that.   

[rebal15]

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Ok, so they are developers.

Lookie uie...

Trying to get Biodom to take your bait.

who gives any shits about what Biodom or any of us say about bitcoin thought leaders or opinion leaders...?


Bitcoin is ultimately a platform that has a multitude of networking effects, and growth with various aspects of the network have different people who are more influential than others, but it is a moving target of a whole hell of a lot of decentralization, driven by market motives, contribution to open source and sound money, and incentives to produce and/or compete to produce quality product without compromising basic principles of sound money, security, collaboration and the ability of others to build on prior work.

Some folks have more influence in various networks of bitcoin's space than others in terms of the kind of sense that they talk and their NOT getting distracted by shitcoin talk, scams, pump and dumbs or various other distracting talk, but in the end, there are no exact leaders.. to say,,, take me to your leader... you diptwat..

You seem to have been attempting to explode the context of Biodom's prior comment about leaders influencing bitcoin and to hook onto some bullshit in order to suggest that there is some kind of bitcoin leaders - even though some people might be influential in development and making proposals, but their proposals need to be accepted and adopted, to the extent that they come up with some good ideas and direction that they want to attempt to push, whether on bitcoin or lightning or anything that is tying into core aspects of bitcoin's way forward, you fuck.

Lets make things clear. It is not me who said Bitcoin leaders. You should quote who said it.

[Biodom]

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Ok, so they are developers.

Lookie uie...

Trying to get Biodom to take your bait.

who gives any shits about what Biodom or any of us say about bitcoin thought leaders or opinion leaders...?


Bitcoin is ultimately a platform that has a multitude of networking effects, and growth with various aspects of the network have different people who are more influential than others, but it is a moving target of a whole hell of a lot of decentralization, driven by market motives, contribution to open source and sound money, and incentives to produce and/or compete to produce quality product without compromising basic principles of sound money, security, collaboration and the ability of others to build on prior work.

Some folks have more influence in various networks of bitcoin's space than others in terms of the kind of sense that they talk and their NOT getting distracted by shitcoin talk, scams, pump and dumbs or various other distracting talk, but in the end, there are no exact leaders.. to say,,, take me to your leader... you diptwat..

You seem to have been attempting to explode the context of Biodom's prior comment about leaders influencing bitcoin and to hook onto some bullshit in order to suggest that there is some kind of bitcoin leaders - even though some people might be influential in development and making proposals, but their proposals need to be accepted and adopted, to the extent that they come up with some good ideas and direction that they want to attempt to push, whether on bitcoin or lightning or anything that is tying into core aspects of bitcoin's way forward, you fuck.

Lets make things clear. It is not me who said Bitcoin leaders. You should quote who said it.

yeah, but it was already abundantly clear (just by looking at the context) to anyone without a preconceived agenda.
I digress..

[realr0ach]

I am not trolling. I was accused of by a stupid hodlers when I said that sec will never accept BTC ETF and gov will not adopt BTC.

Of course the govt will never adopt BTC.  The entire purpose of fiat money is to have a cost of production of 12 cents for a $100 bill and for the govt to collect $99.88 seigniorage fee on each one.  Any usage of digital shitcoins by govts would be govt creating it's own digital shitcoin and trying to force you to use it in order to maximize seigniorage fee just like they already do with fiat.

The next debate is more interesting.  While it's known that govts are anti-physical metals because it limits their ability to do wasteful spending, fraud, and theft, it's far more in the interest of govts to use physical metals instead of Bitcoin.  Why?  Because govt has a hard time funding all of their programs from social security to everything else, so they can always nationalize all metals in the ground, mint some coins, then issue the coins at a far higher face value then what it cost them to produce and collect the seigniorage fee to fund programs that way.  They cannot do that with Bitcoin - there are no Bitcoin in the ground to nationalize.

If any citizens wish for things like social security and whatever else funded, it's probably also in their interest for govt to use metals instead of Bitcoin too.

[savetherainforest]

With the way things are moving, its anyones guess on which route bitcoin might take and depending on what stimulates the market I foresee BTC taking any one of these routes.

My blockchain based, distributed AI algorithm produced the following graph:

: )))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))


^ that was my reaction. And I had food & ale & chewing & stuff.

Thx for the meme of the day!

[realr0ach]

And the rocket's red glare, the ANTIFA bombs bursting in air
Gave proof through the night that our flag was still there
O say does that swastika-spangled banner yet wave

[VB1001]

https://twitter.com/fmoulin7/status/1151649154466308098

Who is the boss? > BTC

Good morning WO,s


I opened a thread in speculation with a quarterly follow-up of the answers in WO and BTC price / trend.

As always, your comments are welcome in the thread:

WO Replies vs Bitcoin Tracking - Q1/Q2/Q3/Q4 - 2019

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5166192.0

Thx.

[JSRAW]

Going to catch up with 36 pages LOL

Here you go Bhai, i am sure @Hueristic skipped some pages too - My Biased point of view-

Disclaimer : The events and characters are fictitious. In case of any similarity to living being, Bots, teams and r0achie, is purely coincidental.

1. Saga of scammer "give me only 100 Btc"- pile of garbage- Deleted
2. Dabs genuinely offering escrow service
3. LFC can see the future -  Click Here
4. Pedo,rape words here and there- drugs are not good -
5. No Instagram posts from Instagram model, guess who
6. infofront's orgy island.
7. One liner comment followed by 10 lines, guess who
8. Mic still struggling with haiku, like everyone else.
9. Finally England Won the Cricket World Cup = #Fact ICC robbed the poor Kiwis   
10. Ibian "Grown men kicking around a ball is fascinating."

11. BBC Earth channel is good - watch at night when you are bored af -
12. gembitz the weeeee guy
13. Orange man tweet and WO discuss
14. Toxic back with Charts - just warming up-
15. Hat virus spreading - welcome RapTarX- nice work homer
16. JJG as usual off topic -keyboard working fine i suppose  -
17. @Info deleted my very old merited post-? Jk guess i did by mistake
18. What happened to Tim Draper?
19. r0achie taking HER med on time - no name calling-
20. Environmental disaster

21. vapourminer - only means business-
22. JoJo and v8 are not observing - both Taking week off -
23. Moreeee garbage -now r0achie looks like a saint-   
24. Bromance in between Bob-JJG 
25. gentlemand " English humor" Give Kohinoor back !! 
26. d_eddie "I never said fuck off to anyone in this noble circle, ripe with the most refined gentlemen and a few gracious ladies." JJG corrects it
27. LFC buying every dip, he fucked up and JJG is "pantomime villain"
28. JJG is every where
29. r0ach off the med again.
30. Tulsi gabbard - Lambie's crush-

31. @Ludwig Von " WO is poetry!"
32. suchmoon cracking joke.
33. @PoolMinor -naked girls- left one to watch @Paashaas not posting much
34. Dump, 4 digit again. mic back to pizza and soon noddles?
35. team joke by JJG, Mic hates it. merited anyways just to hide pain
36. Italian stallion getting good with Meme's game.
37. Kenzy got hacked, Again!! 
38. Good TA by Woodie  Click Here 

[savetherainforest]

Good one!!!



Btw... WTF is happening with the transaction fees??            

[JayJuanGee]

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Ok, so they are developers.

Lookie uie...

Trying to get Biodom to take your bait.

who gives any shits about what Biodom or any of us say about bitcoin thought leaders or opinion leaders...?


Bitcoin is ultimately a platform that has a multitude of networking effects, and growth with various aspects of the network have different people who are more influential than others, but it is a moving target of a whole hell of a lot of decentralization, driven by market motives, contribution to open source and sound money, and incentives to produce and/or compete to produce quality product without compromising basic principles of sound money, security, collaboration and the ability of others to build on prior work.

Some folks have more influence in various networks of bitcoin's space than others in terms of the kind of sense that they talk and their NOT getting distracted by shitcoin talk, scams, pump and dumbs or various other distracting talk, but in the end, there are no exact leaders.. to say,,, take me to your leader... you diptwat..

You seem to have been attempting to explode the context of Biodom's prior comment about leaders influencing bitcoin and to hook onto some bullshit in order to suggest that there is some kind of bitcoin leaders - even though some people might be influential in development and making proposals, but their proposals need to be accepted and adopted, to the extent that they come up with some good ideas and direction that they want to attempt to push, whether on bitcoin or lightning or anything that is tying into core aspects of bitcoin's way forward, you fuck.

Lets make things clear. It is not me who said Bitcoin leaders. You should quote who said it.

Let me make things clear.  You are not going to gain credibility around here for being a genuine poster if you continue to distort facts by getting caught up in technicalities that distortingly strive towards putting your own contributions in the direction of the discussion in a more favorable light.

In other words, who gives any shits about who first mentioned the "bitcoin leader?"  It does not matter.  It's like jbreher saying that he only pumps bcash bullshit because someone else mentioned bcash first.. and he was "forced" to pump his nonsense.  Same with you, here.

You are the dumbass who maniacally pursued that meaningless topic of "bitcoin leader" in an attempt to try to trap biodom into saying something that you would like him to say about supposedly what is a "bitcoin leader"... which is really bullshit, and who really cares, except for your manipulation attempts that are also known as disingenuine posting which is also known as trolling. derp.

[JayJuanGee]

I am not trolling. I was accused of by a stupid hodlers when I said that sec will never accept BTC ETF and gov will not adopt BTC.

The next debate is more interesting.  While it's known that govts are anti-physical metals because it limits their ability to do wasteful spending, fraud, and theft, it's far more in the interest of govts to use physical metals instead of Bitcoin.  

Get out of fantasylandia, roach.  Your idea of a "next debate" is not coming because govts could give two shits about PMs.  They won that battle, long ago.

[realr0ach]

Trump has ordered all brown people back to their shitholes, JayJuanGee.  You are no longer allowed to flood the shitcoin thread with shitcoin ideology.

https://dailystormer.name/trumps-approval-rating-goes-up-2-points-following-demands-non-whites-leave-america/

[savetherainforest]

One panelist gets it:

https://youtu.be/9-ZTkCNW0w8?t=8439

What the actual f&**... ??   ........ There is like a subliminal kinky stuff there. They almost don't say "Can you show us how we will be "raped" by the future??". Or no one is asking:  Will our country still be existing in 5 years?? ...... Gawd, what a f'-ing sh!tsh0w!!!