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October 24, 2019, 04:12:26 PM

What about harvesting human organs from those people.. Of course the world doesn't dare complaining to the CCP because of economic reasons. Undecided



https://www.haaretz.com/world-news/.premium.MAGAZINE-a-million-people-are-jailed-at-china-s-gulags-i-escaped-here-s-what-goes-on-inside-1.7994216

OR, they are holding and reeducating muslim terrorists and potential terrorists to safeguard the people.
Unlike the western democracies who cuddle them and let them in to their countries so they can commit terrorist acts against us.

China wants to cleanse the whole Xinjiang region from ethnic minorities and replacing them with Han Chinese by committing barbaric atrocities.

I don't see France ore England rounding up muslims just to prevent terror attacks.

You should read the entire article to get a beter view of the situation.
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October 24, 2019, 04:19:55 PM

China wants to cleanse the whole region from ethnic minorities and replacing them with Han Chinese

Perhaps they figured out there's no such thing as "multiculturalism".  Either the minority group integrates into society and becomes mostly non-existent and invisble, or the minority group is incapable of integration and results in a constant source of problems and conflict against the majority group.  Maybe China figured out they have minority groups that are incapable of integration (much like America), and are doing the only pragmatic solution possible.  

Most people tend to solve this problem by carving out a space of their country and sending the incompatible minority groups all there, something akin to the India/Pakistan split.  But if the other group is large and hostile, that doesn't work out so well, such as the case of...India and Pakistan.  China probably doesn't have a lot of spare land laying around, but I imagine they have enough to send these people to the far corner of the kingdom and telling them to stay there.
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October 24, 2019, 04:37:32 PM
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r0ach points (505920, last page) to a very interesting website for anyone interested in materials and related sciences.  

There are big differences between the relative abundances of many of the heavier metals in the Earth's crustal rocks and those in the universe as a whole.  In general, the heavier metals to a great degree may have sunk towards the Earth's core early on, perhaps that might explain why it seems strange that heavier metals, even in the same columns of the Periodic Chart, are more abundant than lighter ones (Ag more common than Au, Ir vs. Rh, etc.).  Iridium is extremely scarce (the second rarest element) on Earth's surface.

Worthless but perhaps interesting trivia: Hassium (Hs, element 108, only a synthetic metal with an extremely short half-life) apparently has a density of 40 times that of water.  The heaviest of the stable elements is Osmium clocking in at about 22.

[above posted to help keep anyone who is close to despair over low BTC price and needs something different today]    

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October 24, 2019, 04:43:28 PM

I hope much more not to drop below 6K after the halvening right? Smiley

I would have to think that would be a legitimate, Ghostbusters "dogs and cats. living together. mass hysteria !" scenario, if we ever came close to $6k USD/BTC post-halvening, but what do I know.
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of course more drop will come. btc is over and 3k is comeing
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October 24, 2019, 04:45:57 PM

comeing

?? What is this thing you speak of ??
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October 24, 2019, 04:56:18 PM

So, i want to make a warning here:

from the today analysis of charting pattern im saying we will see 3k again. In 5 hour from now BTC will fall below the 7400 range in the way of 4-3k range. I am professional trader here and you can reach me anytime here on DM.

From here we can see a rise within 6-8 month or 2021 LATEST from the BTC fallout. 3k can sustain for many month again.

would be nice.
As long as it doesn't go below $2.4k, i'm fine and will buy like a maniac (what i should have done at this level in 2017 already, but as a noob i was in doubt).
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October 24, 2019, 05:00:07 PM

So, i want to make a warning here:

from the today analysis of charting pattern im saying we will see 3k again. In 5 hour from now BTC will fall below the 7400 range in the way of 4-3k range. I am professional trader here and you can reach me anytime here on DM.

From here we can see a rise within 6-8 month or 2021 LATEST from the BTC fallout. 3k can sustain for many month again.

would be nice.
As long as it doesn't go below $2.4k, i'm fine and will buy like a maniac (what i should have done at this level in 2017 already, but as a noob i was in doubt).



btc dyeing off slow from the range its now i explain after my TA i will be correct even further than 2k possoble. so best advise to you is to sale all the BTC you has now. Better to keep the fiat money during the comeing time
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October 24, 2019, 05:05:43 PM

of course more drop will come. btc is over and 3k is comeing

Bullshit.
We don't get to see $3k ever again.

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would be nice.
As long as it doesn't go below $2.4k, i'm fine and will buy like a maniac (what i should have done at this level in 2017 already, but as a noob i was in doubt).

Nice? Not at all.

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btc dyeing off slow from the range its now i explain after my TA i will be correct even further than 2k possoble. so best advise to you is to sale all the BTC you has now. Better to keep the fiat money during the comeing time

Thanks - try spelling first - fuck off now.
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October 24, 2019, 05:15:12 PM
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btc dyeing off slow from the range its now i explain after my TA i will be correct even further than 2k possoble. so best advise to you is to sale all the BTC you has now. Better to keep the fiat money during the comeing time


@roach - This is the English speaking caveman you’ve been looking for
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October 24, 2019, 05:25:35 PM

^As I said, even if you're Warren Buffet you probably couldn't find "several cargo trucks" of silver for sale.  You're going to see a lot of people who thought they were rich swimming naked in the future with absolutely nothing to their name.

Bitcoin is even more scarce in the universe.

Silver seems pretty common  instead, let's see what jmbullion.com have on stock: I can buy for example the monster box, 500 1 oz coins ×9999 in-stock= 15536 kg

If I want 100 oz. Bars (different types): 82+4+50+9+5+1+83+0=727kg
5 kg bars=30= 150kg
1 kg bars= 757+8+3+125+2+0+16+12+0+12+12+89=1036kg
1 oz = 9999+14+6914+9999+5834+3480+8852+9782+229+239+1740+380+727+723....I'll stop here because they have many types=1832 kg and much more.

They also have many other forms of silver in stock, and this is only one website. Buying all this silver won't move the price.

Try buying several cargo trucks of bitcoins instead....
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October 24, 2019, 05:26:11 PM
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btc dyeing off slow from the range its now i explain after my TA i will be correct even further than 2k possoble. so best advise to you is to sale all the BTC you has now. Better to keep the fiat money during the comeing time


@roach - This is the English speaking caveman you’ve been looking for

I know i should save my sMerit for valuable contributions, but i was LMFAO so hard, i had to release my last sM to this!
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October 24, 2019, 05:34:27 PM

I don't believe yet. More bear posts needed! Deploy the FUD trolls!  Please save me!
disclosure: Bought this dip twice and considering another. Long term multi-halving HODL
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October 24, 2019, 05:39:58 PM
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Now over half way to the breakdown target of the descending triangle that most people have already forgotten about, despite it being very much still in play.
Not long left to go now. If you're not already accumulating, you're doing it wrong  Tongue




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what is this "brake pedal" you speak of?


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October 24, 2019, 05:41:56 PM
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I don't believe yet. More bear posts needed! Deploy the FUD trolls!  Please save me!
disclosure: Bought this dip twice and considering another. Long term multi-halving HODL

the lowest cost coin i have is perhaps $2.50 USD. so until its under that its a bull market to me. sorry  Grin
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October 24, 2019, 05:55:56 PM
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Bitcoin is curently being "advertised" to big money. The ATH hash rate, long term trend, discount prices, fundamental cutting edge shift in monetary policy, etc. Bitcoin is coming for them like it or not. This is your chance to participate in history. Prices are a distraction, keep your eye on the prize.
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October 24, 2019, 06:01:46 PM

Prices are a distraction, keep your eye on the prize.

Please elaborate.
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October 24, 2019, 06:21:45 PM

Dude. I understand you are trying to be edgy and cool and stuff, but please just stop it. You are dealing with HODLers the likes of which you have never encountered before.

 Please stop before we have to ignore you. If you are going to make such statements as dropping to $2k USD/BTC is possible, then I will simply respond with "Do you even recognize that cost of production is about $6k USD/BTC ?"

 The sheer dollar investment in the infrastructure presently supporting Bitcoin, and taking the last five years of trends into consideration, I do not foresee a situation where we drop that low. I look forward to your insightful reasoning to support Bitcoin dropping below cost-of-production levels.

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October 24, 2019, 06:23:20 PM

I agree.  Fuck the charts, unless they say something that I like.   Wink

That is the position that the majority of investors take. Confirmatory bias. You can see it in this board, you can see it everywhere.

In general investing, it always causes speculators large losses eventually. In BTC it has only been different because the long term trend was/is so exponetially strong.  Merely an act of faith to hodl. In that sense, all trading/walls/charts/opinions are merely a distraction while waiting for the next leg up. (You , among others, provide a lot of words and are a great distraction ! ).

I see my role as pointing out that nothing is 100% certain, even the survival of BTC.

I have been reading charts a very long time and they are not difficult to understand. IMO they do not definitively predict the future but do provide a reference to the probability scale (of which I know you are a fan).


I don't really agree with what seems to be the sentiment of the bolded part above..... let me repeat it here: "You , among others, provide a lot of words and are a great distraction ! ." Of course, I agree that I literally provide a lot of words; however, you make it sound as if I am trying to pump my bags or something like that or that I am unintentionally misleading folks into a kind of wrong world view.

Sure, my suggestion is that people need to take some stake in bitcoin, and likely a 1% stake is the minimum level of prudence, from my view, but my larger message has largely attempted to be that people have to decide for themselves, take responsibility for their own actions, and exercise their own prudence that is hopefully somehow customized to their own situation. 

In other words (yes it takes words to do this), one of the main problems that I have found with people is that there are a lot of them who do not come anywhere near close enough to even attempting to figure out their own personal and financial situation with any degree of particularity before investing in anything whether bitcoin or otherwise.  So, I don't see myself as forcing any kind of agenda on people beyond attempting to get people to do more homework on themselves and their situation in order that they make wiser choices, especially in regards to getting into bitcoin and largely minimizing their exposure to shit coins. 

My words in these kinds of threads are also to attempt to help myself to work through ideas, and to the extent that I am trying to do anything with evoking action from peeps, rather than brainstorming for myself, has been attempting to solicit thinking from other peeps and brainstorming attempts without really telling them what to do, beyond asserting that they should learn their own situation and adapt to their own situation while being responsible for their own decisions (or dumb or whatever that might be).

Personally, I have tentatively concluded that you are more patronizing towards people than me and chastise them for not adequately considering downside bitcoin scenarios.

Ok. I will concede that maybe in the end, we are largely the same, but kind of seem to come at the bitcoin thingie-ma-jiggie from a different angle. 

Let me give one more pitch attempt.  You seem to strongly suggest that people error on the side of making sure that they adequately consider possible downside BTC scenarios, but for some reason you are nearly constantly stuck on BTC going down, and you are not really telling people to buy BTC (so it seems to me), and I seem to error on the side of strongly suggesting that people make sure that they get into the bitcoin game (while taking responsibility for themselves) and make sure that they make sure that they have enough stake into bitcoin at all times in order to adequately prepare their lil selfies for possible up.    Wink Wink   Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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October 24, 2019, 06:24:18 PM

Prices are a distraction, keep your eye on the prize.
Please elaborate.

Put yourself into a drug/alcohol-induced haze for the next two years, and HODL. No SODL.

this worked for me. late 2011 to 2013.

EDIT: although i suppose i never stopped the drug induced haze part
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October 24, 2019, 06:31:06 PM

Prices are a distraction, keep your eye on the prize.

Please elaborate.
To me, Bitcoin is free speech, where I can effectively say "I choose to exit", its my independence from state, my last resort, and my dopamine  Wink
Its personal activism on many levels for me and value is becoming a warped concept the longer I study Bitcoin. Some people make large charitable donations for the better good of other people, its feels like that. Then there's the secondary value based on the very system with which it aims to lapse.
Excuse my high pie in the sky notions of peace love and happiness but this is the best tool in the shop so to speak.

Edit: I guess that's the cool part of Bitcoin, it can be so many things for people.
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