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October 18, 2019, 02:22:35 PM

ESET discovers that Hackers steal Bitcoin in fake TOR browser when they shop on the Dark Web.



When victims load their wallet online, the already Trojanized browser changes the addresses of bitcoin to those of Hackers.

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“This trojanized Tor Browser is a non-typical form of malware, designed to steal digital currency from visitors to darknet markets. Criminals didn’t modify binary components of the Tor Browser; instead, they introduced changes to settings and the HTTPS Everywhere extension. This has allowed them to steal digital money, unnoticed, for years.”

Source:u.today

If users are so stupid as to update their Tor Browser by clicking any link that claims to do so, then they deserve everything they get...  Roll Eyes
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October 18, 2019, 02:29:59 PM

ESET discovers that Hackers steal Bitcoin in fake TOR browser when they shop on the Dark Web.



When victims load their wallet online, the already Trojanized browser changes the addresses of bitcoin to those of Hackers.

ESET team says:

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“This trojanized Tor Browser is a non-typical form of malware, designed to steal digital currency from visitors to darknet markets. Criminals didn’t modify binary components of the Tor Browser; instead, they introduced changes to settings and the HTTPS Everywhere extension. This has allowed them to steal digital money, unnoticed, for years.”

Source:u.today



If you're downloading Tor from an untrusted source, let alone some random website, you probably shouldn't be on any onion sites to begin with.
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October 18, 2019, 02:43:05 PM

Interesting...Lump sum beats DCA about 68% of the time.

https://shitcoin.ninja/post/2019/10/comparing-bitcoin-investment-strategies/

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We created a simple trial comparing lump sum to the strategy of investing in the same amount monthly over a year, and found that lump sum still won ~67.9% of the time. Even the arbitrarily reduced dataset showed that Lump Sum beats DCA 60.8% of time.

DCA is still way the fuck more practical for the vast majority of peeps.

Most of us already know that a large number of peeps cannot even come up with a few hundred dollars for an emergency.

Therefore it is way the fuck better for them to invest regularly, as if they were buying a coffee or an extra bag of groceries or whatever and then just forget about it for 5 years or more.

Vast majority of peeps DCA because that's all they get every month, or every bi-weekly pay check / salary / wage.

The lump sum is for when other types of people, somehow already have saved up or acquired this lump sum another way, in addition or separate to any regularly scheduled income.

DCA is good for those who are more risk averse and want to smooth any potential slippage.

Lump sum does work for traditional investments, and at least it's like "one and done." and no need to think too much.

Any additional investments, would naturally be DCA'd simply because that's all you get every month.

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This experiment does give us some useful insights though. Dollar Cost Averaging is a form of smoothing that reduces the volatility associated with investing date. Investing at the ‘wrong’ time can cause a lot of anxiety and wishful thinking, if only I had waited to buy in or if only I sold at the peak. Using DCA we can alleviate the pressure of worrying that we’re investing at a peak right before a looming cliff.

Which is the whole point of DCA.. Remove emotion. Just do it every month on specific dates. Just buy. Don't think.
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October 18, 2019, 03:26:59 PM

A great cycle:





Fuente: @ChartsBtc

Today the 18 million Bitcoin mined is already fulfilled, there are already 3 million left and the Bitcoin Halving is approaching.
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October 18, 2019, 03:37:10 PM
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Instead of getting margin called.

Have small amount of stops before the margin call. Your margin call price will get lower and have a stop before that call. (cross leverage)

Your position will be underwater and need a price above your oginal entry but better than losing it all.

Hopium is only above $9000

Adding to your longs isn't a good idea in this scenario.

Try to stay alive


Everything under $9k is a potential bull trap.

Above $9k and you have to analyze the market & adjust your stops.

Reduce or add but with multiple stops

There is still a possibility for a retest of at least 9k

https://ibb.co/d58Ryvc

Well said. And, I should add, make the stops redundant - the last two should go over what's needed with the "close only"  flag set. Just in case, you know. When turmoil and panic ensue, price jumps can be badly discontinuous.

At least your take about "breathing stops", as I call them, is IMO golden. Your analysis of current prices hits a fair match with what my SOMA tools  report. Technicals apart, given the wimpy volume, 9k retest is entirely possible - for example, in the scenario where this is just a slow, deep "shake down"  in a double "shake down, shake up" move or, even better, in a "shake down, move up (front run the halving)".

Note I'm saying nothing about your beliefs, "religion"  or attitude, which might be seen as crappy and will be promptly swatted should the need arise.
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October 18, 2019, 03:38:59 PM

Good afternoon WO!
Observing @ $7,934
Under $8k but it really does not matter.
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October 18, 2019, 03:48:19 PM

Yeah they won't be able to suppress the price much longer.
People are realising it's freedom-money.
We ain't seen nothing yet.

Hopefully man, I have an ever increasing stash of coins but the price sucks. I was financial freedom damn it.
Roll on 2-3 years time. I have plans that need bitcoin to rise dramatically Cheesy

At this rate you're gonna end up as the Duke of Liverpool (let's call it that so we don't dox you lol). We will all be your little serfs, doffing our caps when you and the Duchess L pass by. Please look kindly on your humble servants.

Haha, would just be nice to see some positive price action. The time between parabolic rise & catastrophic correction is so long isn’t it.

The peaks of each bear & bull market are so short, I get so impatient inbetween. Problem is the inbetween period is literally a couple of years isn’t it.

Low volatility = good for accumulation & thar’s all really. This does nothing for my thrill chasing Grin

Yeah... but we never know if the correction is going to be long one or a short one. 
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October 18, 2019, 03:53:19 PM

Took THC Cannabis Oil yesterday & spent most of the day like a cabbage, fuck that is some weird shit man.

Never again!

Still feel weird now. Observing sub 8k Sad
Like a cabbage. I'll steal this!  Cool

Oral route is a wild thing. It takes a little more to get thresholds effects, but once that line is passed, you're in for a looooong ride. There are a few people who actually enjoy that, but at least in the sample population of my stoner friends, it's a definite minority. Worse than psychs IME.

Sounds good I only see CBD which seems to undermine the point of it for me

What is wrong with CBD on its own ? I've learned to enjoy the "body-relaxing" qualities, that leave me clear-headed.

I’m sure CBD is fine. The THC oil is like some kind of mushroom or acid trip, never ingesting it again man. I have 5 bottles though, might use it on my skin or in the bath or something.
You could probably also use it to make your own edibles (depending on what exactly your oil contains). Concentrates make for fairly easy pinpoint dosing.

Yes! A few drops in a latte or something require little or no cooking and can give a humanly bearable stone for only a few hours.

On the other hand, Baudelaire used to gulp down like 3 grams of the good stuff and then off to the theater. They didn't have Marvel back then, but I suspect it all looked like Spiderman 14: The Vortex to them. 72 hours straight could easily break a lesser spirit.
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October 18, 2019, 04:16:00 PM

Good afternoon WO!
Observing @ $7,934
Under $8k but it really does not matter.

Just more of ‘filling up the rocket’.
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October 18, 2019, 04:17:51 PM
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The classic edible experience;

T+0:00 subject ingests recommended dose

T+0:30 no effects felt

T+1:00 still nothing, did I get ripped off?

T+1:30 this shit is bunk, WTF, subject eats remaining product

T+14:00 still curled in fetal position behind freezer in the garage... DEAR GOD MAKE IT STOP!!!
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October 18, 2019, 04:18:08 PM

Just more of ‘filling up the rocket’.
3, 2 , 1 - 🚀
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I would like to award some WOsMerit, given my sad null with old boring plain merits. I've been itching for a while, and restraining myself, but when it's too much it's too much.

Let's hear it for V8 with his unusually explicit and plain bullish stand!
Yeah they won't be able to suppress the price much longer.
People are realising it's freedom-money.
We ain't seen nothing yet.
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Let's hear it for vapourminer with his stylish SWIMming!
"A friend of mine" Wink Wink
SWIM is a busy person.
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Let's hear it for LFC with his cabbage and social service warnings!
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Hackers have been distributing a compromised version of the official Tor Browser that's packed with malware designed to steal bitcoin and spy on users. Security firm @ESET says it's been going on for "many years."
https://twitter.com/coindesk/status/1185165299450028033?s=21

@torproject
https://www.coindesk.com/fake-tor-browser-has-been-spying-stealing-bitcoin-for-years
Took THC Cannabis Oil yesterday & spent most of the day like a cabbage,
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Let's hear it for Lambie with his dutiful suggestions about spending scam money or legit btc hodler profits.
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October 18, 2019, 04:20:03 PM

Took THC Cannabis Oil yesterday & spent most of the day like a cabbage, fuck that is some weird shit man.

Never again!

Still feel weird now. Observing sub 8k Sad
Like a cabbage. I'll steal this!  Cool

Oral route is a wild thing. It takes a little more to get thresholds effects, but once that line is passed, you're in for a looooong ride. There are a few people who actually enjoy that, but at least in the sample population of my stoner friends, it's a definite minority. Worse than psychs IME.

Sounds good I only see CBD which seems to undermine the point of it for me

What is wrong with CBD on its own ? I've learned to enjoy the "body-relaxing" qualities, that leave me clear-headed.

I’m sure CBD is fine. The THC oil is like some kind of mushroom or acid trip, never ingesting it again man. I have 5 bottles though, might use it on my skin or in the bath or something.
You could probably also use it to make your own edibles (depending on what exactly your oil contains). Concentrates make for fairly easy pinpoint dosing.

Yes! A few drops in a latte or something require little or no cooking and can give a humanly bearable stone for only a few hours.

On the other hand, Baudelaire used to gulp down like 3 grams of the good stuff and then off to the theater. They didn't have Marvel back then, but I suspect it all looked like Spiderman 14: The Vortex to them. 72 hours straight could easily break a lesser spirit.

Thc build up your tolerance fast. That's what's happening in the USA market, with people dabbing pure thc and so on... imho this is not a sane behavior, and could lead to some damage long-term (and a second ban of the relatively harmless cannabis).

Baudelaire used to ingest black hash with a 10-20% thc content, not pure oil or extract.

CBD is the "good" part of cannabis, it has some anxyolitic and antipsychotic properties (contrary to thc), but to feel an effect you have to ingest like a gram or so (according to clinical trials), so it can get really expensive.

The classic edible experience;

T+0:00 subject ingests recommended dose

T+0:30 no effects felt

T+1:00 still nothing, did I get ripped off?

T+1:30 this shit is bunk, WTF, subject eats remaining product

T+14:00 still curled in fetal position behind freezer in the garage... DEAR GOD MAKE IT STOP!!!

Lol...this reminds me of my juvenile experience with lsd blotters  Cheesy
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October 18, 2019, 04:27:39 PM

Baudelaire used to ingest black hash with a 10-20% thc content, not pure oil or extract.
3 g of oil or extract can probably flatline an elephant  Cheesy

The classic edible experience;

T+0:00 subject ingests recommended dose

T+0:30 no effects felt

T+1:00 still nothing, did I get ripped off?

T+1:30 this shit is bunk, WTF, subject eats remaining product

T+14:00 still curled in fetal position behind freezer in the garage... DEAR GOD MAKE IT STOP!!!
Seems like jojo has some interesting experiences under his belt too  Wink

Lol...this reminds me of my juvenile experience with lsd blotters  Cheesy
I call myself lucky - never had such from L or other psychs. Just curious: how much are we talking about?
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October 18, 2019, 04:28:22 PM
Last edit: October 18, 2019, 04:46:33 PM by makrospex

"A friend of mine" Wink Wink

SWIM is a busy person.

True story. But i wasn't perfectly detailed about "a friend": It was my girlfriend  Roll Eyes
While i was in pittsburgh at IBM for a week. Otherwise she would have had a driver with a car to take her home Grin
I'm glad i missed this, i would have tried it myself. I was way more sensitive to THC than her.
She could never stand that taste again, by the way.

EDIT: I saw the btc dip in the morning, that was exactly what i was feeling about yesterday. Same constellations as before the last dip: Similar low volume, short green 1d candle, short red 1d candle in a narrowing bollinger band, the red candle breaking slightly below the lower BB boundary and boom. See the cryptowatch screenshots i posted yesterday...
If it also drops a few hundred within 24h, i'm gonna be fine with that. Approaching rebuy zone 3... 2... 1...  Smiley

EDIT2: And leave some comment about my SOMA analysis, if possible #nohomo
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Seems like jojo has some interesting experiences under his belt too  Wink


I have no idea what you are talking about.  I am basing my statements purely on national reporting.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/maureen-dowd-tries-marijuana_n_5442224
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October 18, 2019, 05:12:39 PM
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October 18, 2019, 05:14:50 PM


The classic edible experience;

T+0:00 subject ingests recommended dose

T+0:30 no effects felt

T+1:00 still nothing, did I get ripped off?

T+1:30 this shit is bunk, WTF, subject eats remaining product

T+14:00 still curled in fetal position behind freezer in the garage... DEAR GOD MAKE IT STOP!!!

Lol...this reminds me of my juvenile experience with lsd blotters  Cheesy

It kinda should...  amazingly (how would I know?) there may be less visual etc craziness, but the headspace, intensity and duration can be right on par.

Truly not for the faint of heart.
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October 18, 2019, 05:21:41 PM

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This is the best graph I've ever saw for bitcoin probably. According to this chart there was never a bear market.  Tongue None. I wonder what the next candle will look like. Red? Green? Tall? Short?
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October 18, 2019, 05:21:55 PM

Interesting...Lump sum beats DCA about 68% of the time.

https://shitcoin.ninja/post/2019/10/comparing-bitcoin-investment-strategies/

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We created a simple trial comparing lump sum to the strategy of investing in the same amount monthly over a year, and found that lump sum still won ~67.9% of the time. Even the arbitrarily reduced dataset showed that Lump Sum beats DCA 60.8% of time.

DCA is still way the fuck more practical for the vast majority of peeps.

Most of us already know that a large number of peeps cannot even come up with a few hundred dollars for an emergency.

Therefore it is way the fuck better for them to invest regularly, as if they were buying a coffee or an extra bag of groceries or whatever and then just forget about it for 5 years or more.

Obviously, if someone doesn't have a lump sum, then they cannot invest a lump sum.
They simply analyzed all possible scenarios.
One conclusion could be that in life it is better to have an investable lump sum than DCA as it simply opens up more investing options, clearly.
Heck, one can even borrow such a lump sum-a risky path that I don't condone, but in some situations it works. I used it a few times, more than a decade ago, when market was strong and you only paid 0-2% to borrow. Now cc companies boosted the borrowing % to 4-5% and it does not make sense anymore. Getting personal loans from the bank is possible, but you need to have a cash flow present to justify such loan.
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