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March 18, 2020, 09:07:01 PM

I see, you still didn't get behind the connection of the comparison. As i said before, it's complicated.

No, I get it all too well.  That is why I called you out on it.

You believe i'm a bear because ONE btctalk member said so?
C'mon  Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy

I admit that I read what Lambie said with a strong bias against you, due to your having just engaged in almost comically stereotypical national-guilt nonsense, and then defended it with nothing more than (0) calling me a troll, and (1) saying that I didn’t get it.  (And you are still defending that analogy...)  If you’re not a bear, then I (very narrowly) apologize for having misjudged you on that particular point.  My mistake.  I will watch your posts more carefully before saying such things.

Maybe you're just as wrong on that as with the rest you're trying to project onto me?

As the only person on this forum on the Internet who has been accused of being both Hitler (literally, Adolf Hitler himself) and a Mossad agent (yup, that’s (((me)))), I think I can safely say that it is you who is projecting with anything about not getting it.

Really?
See, austrian polititcs just willingly downplayed icelands travel warning for a well known austrian ski resort, after a group of icelandics returned home sick, tested positive for Covid19. They said the group must have got infected on munich airport before flying home (remember incubation time). This was two or three weeks ago, even the national media didn't report on that. Two more weeks of apres-ski partying in overcrowded bars, with tourists from all over europe, until they quarantined the area. Just not to risk the ski season and reputation of the resorts. Now they are totally fucked, btw. and it turned out that this resort was a central hub for spreading SARS-CoV-2 for weeks, with every responsible person knowing what was going on in Italy at the time. "Italy is not Tyrol", they said. Two days ago the major of the village in Tyrol, where the icelanders were skiing, said in an interview "we did everything right".
So only for the sake of understanding the comparison, see the appearance of Covid19 in most parts of Europe as an "Export" of Austria.

Now the other part:
Adolf was a promising austrian artist (painter) when he was young. He applied at the university of arts in vienna, but his portfolio didn't include enough drawings of heads, as the  auditor wrote in his notes. This was the start of young hitler turning from a bohemian artist into a frustrated working class member, who got caught by antisemitic speech and decided to engange in politics.

Now, for the sake of the comparison i drew, are you willing to accept that many cases of Covid19 in Europe AND the misery that hitler brought to Europe BOTH were caused by a single bad decision of an austrian principal, in both cases.
That's what is behind my comparison. Nothing more. Accept it, refuse it, but if you just didn't understand it, don't assume you did. I refuse to believe you knew all the background that stood behind that single comparison, at the time i made it (or you misjudged it).

Now, back on topic please, i didn't continue WO's Covid discussion in the Coronavirus Outbreak thread just to see it getting cooked up in WO again.

I hope my limited, non-native english did not create more room for misunderstanding than i already created by said comparison.
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March 18, 2020, 09:20:09 PM

What happened to V8? Was he older than 90? #corona  Shocked
Not sure if he is over 90 but he is a senior I assume. Isn't he around?

FWIW he is not that 'old', whatever 'senior' means.

I understand he's just taking a break to sort out some RL stuff.  We all have to from time to time, right?
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@Toxic this might save your few days.

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March 18, 2020, 09:33:40 PM

Please remember to watch wash her tits your hands.  Here's a great video tutorial on the proper meathod:



a) She forgot to do her thumbs
b) I can't believe I was able to watch her hands instead of her tits for 30 seconds.

Regarding b): I can absolutely believe that you did not have any problems focusing your eyeballs on her hands, because in connection with your point a), you had failed/refused to write or otherwise indicate "#nohomo" . 

You have been uncovered, unambiguously; sucks to be you.   Tongue 
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March 18, 2020, 09:35:02 PM

@HHorsely
HUGELY bullish dynamics for Bitcoin right now:

- BTC flat during HISTORIC risk-off days in markets.

- 72% on Coinbase buying.

- The Halvening is 50 days away.

- Billions in buys coming when levered longs return.

- And if 1% of >$2T+ of stimulus finds its way to Bitcoin...
https://twitter.com/hhorsley/status/1240389839234752522?s=21
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March 18, 2020, 09:35:52 PM

a) She forgot to do her thumbs

Didn't notice.  :/
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March 18, 2020, 09:36:24 PM

Everyone should take a look at this twitter thread on the Imperial College team report on COVID-19 and read the pdf of the report. It may be on the news tonight. Trump may call it fake news but the governors of US states and the CDC sure won't.

https://twitter.com/jeremycyoung/status/1239975682643357696
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Lots of economic havoc. Everything is down; it's like the opposite of the "everything bubble" which has been happening for the last several years. Stocks are down, which is expected, but GLD, Bitcoin, and even TLT (=long-term treasuries) are also down. Where is the money disappearing off to? Are institutional investors really selling everything and then putting the cash "under their mattresses"?

I was especially surprised by long-term treasury yields. People are saying that the high yields are because the US is about to spend trillions of dollars on the coronavirus response, but I always thought (based on past behavior) that the treasury markets didn't really care about US debt. It'd be interesting if yields went way up -- to several percent --, which would turn this recession into a full-blown debt crisis as well. I don't think the Fed would let it happen, though, and I suspect that their intervention would not be enough to cause hyperinflation or any other short-term disaster, either, this time.

The Fed was already propping up the economy, and now they've turned it up to 11. At some point this is going to cause so much mal-investment & disconnection between the real economy and the financial system that everything really just collapses. It could happen this time, though maybe not: the USD being the global reserve currency strengthens it a lot. I've previously predicted that the collapse would come in a few decades. Regardless, the Fed's actions here very much reinforce my skepticism of the fiat economy in general. I'd much rather own a lot of BTC than participate fully in the Fed's/US's crazy game of Monopoly.

I think that the recession is good for BTC medium-term. People are selling now because people are selling everything now. But 2008 was what motivated the creation of Bitcoin, and the same things are happening now. I could see ATHs this year.
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Look who comes back as a "stingy as ever" fuck.   Shocked Shocked Shocked



 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy


Gotta give you a +1WOsMerit for that...  toxic_moxic... Wink

I know I am not one to talk..but has your text to post count ratio dropped some in my absence?

+1 WOsMerit

There..you happy now biatch?   Love you long time Mr. J  Kiss

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Thanks for inquiring regarding my post/text ratio, and your other seemingly thoughtfully chosen words of endearment.  I missed you too. #nohomo.

Regarding my post/text ratio, I quickly carried out a thorough overview, revealing that you have correctly identified a declining trend of such previously mentioned ratio that was approximately 7.2897621%, largely justifying that I need to UP my game....  HolyMoley!!

Without your keen eyeballs, I would not have even accounted that I had been slacking in your absence.. sucks to be me,  Fuck!  and, I am so delighted that you are returned, better than TP, to keep me on my toeshonest, yeah!!!!  Toxie for pres!!!!

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I hope my limited, non-native english did not create more room for misunderstanding than i already created by said comparison.

I conjecture that you (Oom) and nullius will appreciate each other a wee bit MOAR better, once you get better acquainted...  hahahahaha #nohomo.


Should be titled: "the best of JSRAW" - what MOAR could any frequently absent, yet still wannabe WO participant want?     Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy #nohomo





Edit:
 I scribbled "#nohomo" so many times in the above post, that I am starting to wonder if I may have "Corona virus fatigue issues?"
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IMO, COVID19 is probably deadlier than most people think. Let's compare the recovery/death percentage of the most-affected nations where actual democracy exists:

Top 5: China, Italy, Iran, Spain, and S. Korea.

Ignoring China, Iran, and S. Korea:

ITALY:

Total recoveries: 2749
Total deaths: 2158

Percentages:

Recovery: 56%
Death: 44%

SPAIN:

Total recoveries: 530
Total deaths: 342

Percentages:

Recovery: 60%
Death: 40%

USA:

Total recoveries: 106
Total deaths: 135

Percentages:

Recovery: 44%
Death: 56%

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Rumours we are set to go into forced isolation for 2 weeks starting on Friday. I’m going to pay all our bills tomorrow & then go & get a load of food, booze & some cocaine Cheesy

Yeah right.

The only food left in my nearest supermarket was two cans of economy meatballs.
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March 18, 2020, 10:00:45 PM

IMO, COVID19 is probably deadlier than most people think. Let's compare the recovery/death percentage of the most-affected nations where actual democracy exists:

Top 5: China, Italy, Iran, Spain, and S. Korea.

Ignoring China, Iran, and S. Korea:

ITALY:

Total recoveries: 2749
Total deaths: 2158

Percentages:

Recovery: 56%
Death: 44%

SPAIN:

Total recoveries: 530
Total deaths: 342

Percentages:

Recovery: 60%
Death: 40%

USA:

Total recoveries: 106
Total deaths: 135

Percentages:

Recovery: 44%
Death: 56%

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These are stats of the people who were actually diagnosed though which obviously involves going to hospital & getting tested. The people who are suffering & need to rush to hospital are the weak/already ill/elderly.

There will be thousands & thousands who have mild symptoms who don’t seek any testing or treatment & recover totally 100%. These people will not be included in those stats.

The stats above make it look much worse than the reality is.
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These are stats of the people who were actually diagnosed though which obviously involves going to hospital & getting tested. The people who are suffering & need to rush to hospital are the weak/already ill/elderly.

There will be thousands & thousands who have mild symptoms who don’t seek any testing or treatment & recover totally 100%. These people will not be included in those stats.

The stats above make it look much worse than the reality is.

This, plus reaching "recovered" state takes more days from onset of symptoms (when they are usually tested shortly after) than "death" state. So "recovered" is behind a bit when compared to deaths at the same time. Still, two negative tests are required to count a case as recovered, so death rate may be even a bit less in the end.
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These are stats of the people who were actually diagnosed though which obviously involves going to hospital & getting tested. The people who are suffering & need to rush to hospital are the weak/already ill/elderly.

There will be thousands & thousands who have mild symptoms who don’t seek any testing or treatment & recover totally 100%. These people will not be included in those stats.

The stats above make it look much worse than the reality is.

That's a good point. I guess there's a reason why WHO is insisting on testing more and more people all over the world. That's probably the only way to get more precise and accurate statistics.
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Lots of economic havoc. Everything is down; it's like the opposite of the "everything bubble" which has been happening for the last several years. Stocks are down, which is expected, but GLD, Bitcoin, and even TLT (=long-term treasuries) are also down. Where is the money disappearing off to? Are institutional investors really selling everything and then putting the cash "under their mattresses"?

Yes, same thing that happened in 2008. Somewhere in this pile of knowledge we call a thread I talked about how in 2008 I was stunned that Gold had dropped below 600 an ounce WHILE everything was going bad. I could not believe it, but everyone wanted cash to buy MRE's and shit for the apocalypse.

Cash is dangerous because the US can print infinite amounts of it. That doesn't matter because people aren't thinking long term.

Once again I don't think there will be inflation because this "money" they are printing is just covering the hole of the "money" that was never there but was priced into every asset and transaction. It's replacing virtual virtual money with real virtual money.

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I think that the recession is good for BTC medium-term. People are selling now because people are selling everything now. But 2008 was what motivated the creation of Bitcoin, and the same things are happening now. I could see ATHs this year.

Right. People need to make the monthly nut. We'll see what happens, but it is kind of fun to watch again.

And it will happen again in year 4 of a chucklehead Republican presidency. As it always does.
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March 18, 2020, 10:09:01 PM

Regarding b): I can absolutely believe that you did not have any problems focusing your eyeballs on her hands, because in connection with your point a), you had failed/refused to write or otherwise indicate "#nohomo" .  

You have been uncovered, unambiguously; sucks to be you.   Tongue  


Oh yeah! I can wear pink and look FABULOUS!!!!

Mmmmm (looks at self) nope. I have no fashion clue. Besides I have a wife and mistress both of whom have ample boobs. Maybe that's why I could ignore it for a few secs.
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These are stats of the people who were actually diagnosed though which obviously involves going to hospital & getting tested. The people who are suffering & need to rush to hospital are the weak/already ill/elderly.

There will be thousands & thousands who have mild symptoms who don’t seek any testing or treatment & recover totally 100%. These people will not be included in those stats.

The stats above make it look much worse than the reality is.

Well, the point it that those with mild symptoms or totally asymptomatic could still be contagious and spread the disease, eventually making things even worse in the future.
In Italy there are for sure a LOT of asymptomatic cases, and we are debating to test basically everyone or not.
In the meantime elderly people are dying at an unnatural rate in certain regions.

https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1239045482665525259?s=20
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March 18, 2020, 10:13:27 PM

Regarding b): I can absolutely believe that you did not have any problems focusing your eyeballs on her hands, because in connection with your point a), you had failed/refused to write or otherwise indicate "#nohomo" . 

You have been uncovered, unambiguously; sucks to be you.   Tongue 


Naah, I can wear pink and look FABULOUS!!!!

Mmmmm (looks at self) nope. I have no fashion clue. Besides I have a wife and mistress both of whom have ample boobs. Maybe that's why I could ignore it for a few secs.

Fair enough.

You have to suffer a bit more in RL so that you can appreciate what some of us mere mortals might be missing... #potentiallywanderingeyes... guys / gal.
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March 18, 2020, 10:16:03 PM

Belgium corona lockdown is great, just went for one of my nicest ever 50km cycle rides. Traffic lights become irrelevant after 9pm it's liberating! Ironically, not many less people out on the streets this evening compared to previous evenings, much notably less cars... lots of people also having a walk for "exercise". Don't know what it's like in other cities... but not much has changed here apart from more restaurants are shut now. Night shops still open though, so enough people going out "shopping" it seems  Roll Eyes
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March 18, 2020, 10:18:54 PM

Belgium corona lockdown is great, just went for one of my nicest ever 50km cycle rides. Traffic lights become irrelevant after 9pm it's liberating! Ironically, not many less people out on the streets this evening compared to previous evenings, much notably less cars... lots of people also having a walk for "exercise". Don't know what it's like in other cities... but not much has changed here apart from more restaurants are shut now. Night shops still open though, so enough people going out "shopping" it seems  Roll Eyes
This lockdown helping millions for exercise enviornment and walks as I was also checking many walking without cars and other stuff just checking whats happeing around.
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