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Question: When will BTC get back above $70K:
7/14 - 0 (0%)
7/21 - 1 (1.1%)
7/28 - 11 (11.8%)
8/4 - 16 (17.2%)
8/11 - 7 (7.5%)
8/18 - 5 (5.4%)
8/25 - 7 (7.5%)
After August - 46 (49.5%)
Total Voters: 93

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June 22, 2020, 03:12:04 PM

There is 175€ (about 200$) between the upper and lower bounds of my buy and sell orders, and these last few days/weeks it has been increasingly difficult to hit them with any regularity. Sometimes 1 day, sometimes a full two days pass without a single order getting executed.

So sideways it is, and I don't like it.

For pure hodlers it's fine though.


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You and me both bro, though I gave up using it years ago. Legal growing is far more fun, healthy and lucrative.

do you ever try to makes extracts (oils, wax etc) or just straight up smoke the bud?

asking for SWIM

I’ve tried it all but I’m old school and still think smoking flower is the way to go. I don’t even mind cotton mouth or coughing for 5 min because I held my breath too long. When I say old school I mean I’m fucking older than dirt. Currently my main pastime is looking up how many of my favorite entertainers are dead. I almost cried when David Bowie died. I saw him in concert over 30 times. I’m embarrassed to say how many times I’ve seen Rush perform and now Neil Peart is dead. No chance of a reunion concert for Rush now. LOL I smoked my first bud of Columbian gold in 1975 while watching Chevy Chase on SNL. I bet I made hash brownies before you were born. Extracts are fine and most of the peeps I know vape but it’s not for me.



Jay you know I mined LTC from the beginning because I had a man crush on coblee (Charlie Lee) and terrytibbs. I also wanted to mine something and be a true early adopter but I think bitcoin followers are being diluted by all the shitcoins and so is this forum. This forum is nothing but Indonesians posting for money and shitcoins promoters looking to fuck a few more fiat coins out of dumbasses. This thread (only one thread on the entire forum) is the last bastion of true bitcoin supporters on this forum. I’m not saying there is a better one out there, although Goats forum was pretty good for a while.

Also Jay, I would love to exist for only bitcoin so if you could just convince my mortgage banker and grocery stores to start taking bitcoin I’ll be happy to do it. Every miner converts bitcoin to fiat because they need to pay the electric company and all of their bills. You believe I put too much value on fiat. Well yeah Jay I put a little bit of value on eating, electric lights and having someplace to take a shit every day that doesn’t involve wiping my ass with a leaf. LOL

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Interesting results for the poll, 30% would sell more than 50%, that's high.
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Interesting results for the poll, 30% would sell more than 50%, that's high.


info has been nailing it lately with the polls   

we have a significant population of daytarders here...dont hate on them...they will be converted eventually to true hodlers thru osmosis and continuous exposure to battle hardened wall personnel 
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About the virtual machine discussion, are you using a type 1 hypervisor, or a VM on top of Linux/Unix (using VirtualBox or other) ?

I run two headless computers/servers and each is running a couple of VMs, one has enough power to run everything but I need to decide on the hypervisor. One server is running an OpenSolaris derivative (OpenIndiana), it is recommended to use ESXi with it, but I'm not decided yet, I'd like to try a free (as in free software) option. OpenIndiana/Solaris itself has a virtualization layer built in, but only Solaris is really able to run windows and linux VMs as a type 1 hypervisor, and that isn't free.

I use VirtualBox, which comes with Mint. I have honestly no idea what you were talking about in the 2nd part. I am a complete IT-noob, relying on step-by-step instructions.

Yeah then continue with that.

A type 1 hypervisor is like if virtualbox was the OS on your computer, the first thing you installed. Then everything is run in virtual machines. It's how it's done in small data centers and server rooms. In big datacenters the hardware itself is hidden, many physical servers/blades are combined into large clusters on top of which VMs are run, and can seamlessly be moved from one cluster to another, or copies run concurrently to provide high availability.

That's the theory, since my company has moved to that latest model (no cloud as no trust in cloud companies not giving our data to the highest bidder/US government) we have rather lost in availability than gained... Maybe I should try to work in that field and could get a good salary out of fixing that mess.

I suppose this architecture is meant for servers only? Not for end users/clients? Why do they do it that way? Ease of use, easier than actually having to manage an OS, ability to do those clusters? Its a totally different world to me, but interesting.
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Million Dollar (14K coin) Bidwall just went up @ $70!  Hope it holds.



I’ve just been reading page 1 of this thread, I wasn’t around myself until mid 2014 (12 months after this post was made).

This is why we HODL & we don’t panic sell. Bitcoin is the fucking future gentlemen!. Look at the price there, $72. We could be on another fucking galaxy in 5 - 10 years, never find the moon, another galaxy.

HODL my brothers & let’s become the new wealthy elite together Smiley

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Good morning


Experienced a incredible day yesterday and I will not soon forget it. Went up to visit my parents grave and just hung out all afternoon with my sister. We played a little music, shared a beer and I smoked while watching clouds melt away. Felt a deep connection with the Earth and all of the life the fills it. It was very grounding and I needed that terribly.

I hope you all had a great Fathers Day as well.

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for those few out there not paying attention...number go sideways and threaten to go up now   
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resistance at $9,664.63 and support building at $9,248.15    #dyor
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June 22, 2020, 04:09:43 PM

^^^---  I ain't a scared!


So I was thinking on this whole trump rally thing without masks.

If his supporters all show up and start getting sick and he takes away their right to mail in a vote then how the hell is he gonna get re-elected when they are all sick?

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^^ Yet they reported there was an inflated number of 69,000 in attendence yet the facility where it was held can only hold at capacity 19,000 at one given time. Cheesy
I guess all those phantom purchases of tickets to the venue were from those millennials after all, as reported from one news syndicate beginning with capital C. Grin
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https://twitter.com/themooncarl/status/1275012947232747521?s=21



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I bet I made hash brownies before you were born.

whats the wager Grin
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About the virtual machine discussion, are you using a type 1 hypervisor, or a VM on top of Linux/Unix (using VirtualBox or other) ?

I run two headless computers/servers and each is running a couple of VMs, one has enough power to run everything but I need to decide on the hypervisor. One server is running an OpenSolaris derivative (OpenIndiana), it is recommended to use ESXi with it, but I'm not decided yet, I'd like to try a free (as in free software) option. OpenIndiana/Solaris itself has a virtualization layer built in, but only Solaris is really able to run windows and linux VMs as a type 1 hypervisor, and that isn't free.

I use VirtualBox, which comes with Mint. I have honestly no idea what you were talking about in the 2nd part. I am a complete IT-noob, relying on step-by-step instructions.

Yeah then continue with that.

A type 1 hypervisor is like if virtualbox was the OS on your computer, the first thing you installed. Then everything is run in virtual machines. It's how it's done in small data centers and server rooms. In big datacenters the hardware itself is hidden, many physical servers/blades are combined into large clusters on top of which VMs are run, and can seamlessly be moved from one cluster to another, or copies run concurrently to provide high availability.

That's the theory, since my company has moved to that latest model (no cloud as no trust in cloud companies not giving our data to the highest bidder/US government) we have rather lost in availability than gained... Maybe I should try to work in that field and could get a good salary out of fixing that mess.

I suppose this architecture is meant for servers only? Not for end users/clients? Why do they do it that way? Ease of use, easier than actually having to manage an OS, ability to do those clusters? Its a totally different world to me, but interesting.

Some people do it on their main computer although it's rare. It's the best for performance, and since for servers you want all your apps on VMs (usually one app by VM), then having a base full fledged OS would be a waste of resources.
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Extracts are fine and most of the peeps I know vape but it’s not for me.

dab rigs are discrete and have.. use cases

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Jay you know I mined LTC from the beginning because I had a man crush on coblee (Charlie Lee) and terrytibbs. I also wanted to mine something and be a true early adopter

Apart from my not knowing who or what is terrytibbs, I don't see anything wrong with getting distracted in the beginning by mining of such an altcoin for whatever reason or not even knowing, necessarily, the value proposition of bitcoin as compared with other coins.

I had not looked back that far into your history, even though superficially I had noticed that you had quite a few seemingly bitcoin denigrating posts and bitcoin naysaying and desires to play around with trading, and surely, I think that I kind of got to know you around the late 2015 stage in which you were talking about selling your bitcoin to engage in christmas spending.  I am not sure how relevant your earlier litecoin mining history would have been to that and/or I am not even clear if you are saying that you had already been done with your litecoin mining history by the time that I was interacting with you in late 2015?


but I think bitcoin followers are being diluted by all the shitcoins and so is this forum.

Seems a bit unnecessarily pessimistic and generalizing to me.  Sure there is money in shitcoins, but there are likely plenty of us who bash shitcoins whenever we can, and I had already said that this WO thread tends to be a pretty decent place to bash on shitcoins, and some folks here could give less than two shits about the rest of the forum.

I admit that I do tend to explore other parts of the forum, and I do tend to bash on shitcoins in other parts of the forum too.  Seems to me that any member cannot really get into trouble by bashing on shitcoins whether in this thread or other parts of the forum, and surely I don't tend to go to too many shitcoin threads, except a couple of the BSV / craig wright is a fraud threads, and it seems o.k. to bash on shitcoins in those BSV threads too, including bashing on both BSV and bashing on craig wright and scamsters like him or even drawing parrallels to other scammers, therein.  

Anyhow, you come off as a bit exaggerating and butt hurt in your persistent assertions suggesting that the forum is fucked because it accepts shitcoins and the discussion of shitcoin (presumably you do not like the signature campaign aspect, either, which is somewhat fair, but part of what the forum allows to both make money for itself and for members.. I am not exactly sure about the forums revenue intake that might be generated from allowing signature campaigns, and I am presuming that some money might come into the forum's coffers from that allowance of various signature campaigns, but really conjecture on my part).


This forum is nothing but Indonesians posting for money and shitcoins promoters looking to fuck a few more fiat coins out of dumbasses.

There may be some truth that people from lower income countries might find way more benefit to spend time on the forum and attempt to earn money through their forum participation, yet I have not found that dynamic, to the extent it exists, to really hamper my ability to feel that I am getting value out of the forum.  I don't make any money from my 6.5 years of forum participation (so far) - except I did have about two years that I did try out wearing some signatures between late 2015-ish and early 2018-ish.  I might have earned 4 or more bitcoins during that time.. but I lost more than that through foolish acts too that involve sim port swaps.. and I kind of consider whatever bitcoin I earned through signature campaigns as a kind of wash because most of those coins were in wallets that ended up getting emptied... so I just kind of gave up on signature campaigns and concluded that I did not really want to be involved anymore, including wondering every month (or whatever was the pay period) whether I would be paid or if they were changing the terms of payment and a lot of petty bullshit like that..


This thread (only one thread on the entire forum) is the last bastion of true bitcoin supporters on this forum. I’m not saying there is a better one out there, although Goats forum was pretty good for a while.

I would be surprised if there are not quite a few other bitcoin maximalist circles.  I mean I understand that people customize their twitter feeds, and I tend to hear a lot of bitcoin maximalism in a variety of podcasts, so again it seems to me that you are being overly jaded in regards to considering that so many people or even avenues of information are corrupted.

By the way, there are some podcasts that I listen to, and sure they are mostly bitcoin maximalists, but sometimes when they are entertaining some other coins or projects, I do get quite pissed off when I start to believe that either they are giving too much benefit of the doubt to some non-bitcoin related project, and I even start to feel that they are abusing my trust by going down that road... so surely, I agree that there needs to be a kind of proper state of mind when discussing shitcoins, and surely some people of decent integrity are involved in shitcoin projects, but if they are involved in a podcast, it seems to me that they need to be challenged, and if the host(s) are any way weak or receptive to getting pumped in some project, then the whole content of the discussion might devolve into some kind of shitcoin pumping fest or subtle propaganda.


Also Jay, I would love to exist for only bitcoin so if you could just convince my mortgage banker and grocery stores to start taking bitcoin I’ll be happy to do it.

Get the fuck out of here.  I am not saying that.  We can be pumped about bitcoin, but it would be dumbass to be 100% bitcoin, and i have already gotten into battles with other members about that approach, even though I understand that some folks genuinely do try to keep a vast majority of their value in bitcoin.. and it seems a bit much to me.

Anyhow, you seem to be avoiding part of your own issue which is likely that you are and you have been way the fuck too underinvested in bitcoin, and that is why you came out with some dumbass (and you better admit it) and lame proclamation that bitcoin needs to go to $1million-ish in order for you to feel that you can personally profit from it.  Admit it.. that is a lame-ass statement, and you made it.. not me.


Every miner converts bitcoin to fiat because they need to pay the electric company and all of their bills.

So what.  You are engaging in diversionary tactics. If you are earning money in bitcoin, whether mining or otherwise, you better fucking be selling some bitcoin on a regular basis because otherwise you are way too damned leveraged and imbalanced in that direction.

I am not exactly sure if the calculation for a miner (or someone earning value in bitcoin) would be much different from anyone else, yet the main thing would be that they are forced to sell on a regular basis.. but they still should be considering all the same things as people who earn money in fiat.. which is cashflow, investments in other assets, view of bitcoin as compared to other assets, risk tolerance, timeline, and time, skills and abilities to research, plan/trade and reallocate their assets and their strategies from time to time.



You believe I put too much value on fiat.

I don't know your details.   I am just going based on some of your words from time to time.  It's not like I don't like you, but you have come out with a quite a few outrageous statements through the years, even though your forum participation might have its irregular periods, too.

Sure, maybe I followed some of your actions a bit more than necessary, but I was not trying to stalk you, and even, for example, your creation of a merit give-away thread that seemed to focus on the dishing out of smerits to bitcoin maximalists.. that surely was a great thing to do and to announce that you were doing, from my perspective.  I cannot really fault you for behaviors like that.



Well yeah Jay I put a little bit of value on eating, electric lights and having someplace to take a shit every day that doesn’t involve wiping my ass with a leaf. LOL

Exactly... #metoo.

Each of us has some amount of responsibility to make sure that our daily, weekly & monthly expenses are taken care of.  I frequently have described some of my practices in figuring out that shit.  When I was right out of highschool and leaving my home and having to cover my own expenses, I had learned to project my expenses for a few months in advance so that I could live within my means, make sure that I always invested and had an emergency fund, ect etc.. and as I continued to do that I got better at it, which evolved into a series of excel spreadsheets and really for me 6 months in advance evolved into 18 months in advance and more, and I realized that the more things that I had going on in terms of my assets, expenses, use of debt, and even business relations (and various uncertainties in certain kinds of cashflow), the better that it would be to plan in advance... but sometimes, if you plan too far in advance you might spend more time than needed, from time to time, making changes to the time line that is way less immediate... so there surely remains some value in figuring out more of the details in the coming 3 months to 6 months, and just having some general ideas about the times that are further out.. but better have your shit together for 3-6 months, because if you do not plan some of those income versus expenses in advance, you could end up in a preventable emergency... and suffering from more psychological and financial trauma than would have been necessary in terms of making sure your shit is together and projected out for several months at minimum.
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June 22, 2020, 04:37:27 PM
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Brothers!
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Is this shit going to 5 figure soon?
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Brothers!
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Is this shit going to 5 figure soon?
Just say ShAzAm! and you'll see over $10k again.
It worked for me last time. Grin
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So I was thinking on this whole trump rally thing without masks.

If his supporters all show up and start getting sick and he takes away their right to mail in a vote then how the hell is he gonna get re-elected when they are all sick?

he doesnt plan on leaving whether he win or loses. so it matters not how many of his supporters die and cant vote.
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Just say ShAzAm! and you'll see over $10k again.
It worked for me last time. Grin



Observing @ $9,574 😜
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I'm French in case you didn't know, my country is mostly fine, even great by many accounts, however earning good money is not easy. And even if you manage it, a lot of it goes out in taxes, and if you spend it to buy nice things, people get jealous.

So, should I emigrate ? I think I could do it relatively easily to Canada, as a native French and good English speaker with IT skills.

However I don't really like the cold, outside of a week of skiing here and there.

I thought about developing Asian countries, Vietnam in particular, however there I would make less money not more, so now I think of it as a retirement thing, or a place to invest money earned elsewhere.

Should I try for the US ? I looked at the various visas, the closest family I got is a first degree cousin who just got married to a local girl (after living there since childhood), in part to ensure he could stay... I looked at the sponsorship thing and I wouldn't ask this to anyone anyway, except a parent or sibling.

The lottery, it's less than 1% chance, not really a plan.

The work thing, obviously right now isn't the time, but IT technician, I don't like my chances.

My BTC bag isn't big enough, I want to buy more before it's too late.
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