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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 4 (3.3%)
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$80K to $85K - 2 (1.7%)
$85K to $90K - 10 (8.3%)
$90K to $95K - 15 (12.4%)
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June 15, 2020, 04:10:48 PM

^ you underestimate the circumstances of the current generation of protesters. They have been trashed on the economic scrap pile since entering the workforce, not had jobs having a pick of vocations like the boomers.

Maybe I'm out of touch, but I really don't get this whine. Economic progress is so simple it is stupid. Create something of value that someone else is willing to pay you for. End of story.

Bulls. You'll make a shit when you don't have a capital to educate yourself for beginners. It's like saying you should run and win a race if you're good enough even if you're way behind on starting point.

Capitalist systems, specially the one in USA are made for rich to stay rich and poor to be their legal slaves forever. Sure, there will be one, two or 10 examples of people coming out by some strange way, but 99.99% of them will always serve their masters as they just didn't have a chance to do anything different. The rich will educate their kids ant best universities and prepare them to take over as next generation leafders and the rest will continue to eat their dust.

You think some poor guy coming from poor neighborhood have a chance of coming with covid-19 vaccine, either as owner of the company or as one of lead scientists working for it and make billions/millions from that business? He has my arse. He neither has a chance to educate himself to come close to those circles or to have a capital to be an entrepreneur behind it.

We're just trying to help here by turning poor nocoiners into coiners. They WILL buy in any case but using our advice they can buy (small fractions) in four digits. Later everyone (including mindrust yes) will have to buy BTC anyway but at a much less attractive price (6 digits?).   Cool
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June 15, 2020, 04:15:42 PM

I can't recall this thread ever being so dead and there were more boring times.

2015 was pretty dead

2012 was pretty dead

This thread didn't exist in 2012.

was the other thread, technicality
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June 15, 2020, 04:28:24 PM

This thread didn't exist in 2012.
was the other thread, technicality

True. I thought about that, the original non-self-moderated 1000 post AdamSTGbit wall observer thread.

Tried to find it to see what it was doing in 2012, but couldn't find it.
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June 15, 2020, 04:30:25 PM

The thread is only quiet because we’re trading in such a stable range atm, it’s boring essentially. Everybody will still be here, most likely being voyeurs, just not posting.

As soon as the fuse gets lit all the regs will start flowing back, ready for the next ATH & moon launch.

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June 15, 2020, 04:49:23 PM
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Coronavirus Cases: 8,049,670. Deaths: 436,682. Recovered: 4,154,981.

- More than 100,000 new cases worldwide were reported each day for the last two weeks.

- A resurgence in new infections has been detected in Florida, Texas and California. 170,000 new cases in the U.S within one week.

- Beijing back into partial lockdown as new cluster emerges. CCP blames outbreak on imported salmon.

- Brazil's death toll passes Britain, world's second highest.

- Argentina confirms more than 1,000 new cases in one day for first time.

- New cases have spiked in the Balkans; Bosnia, North Macedonia and Albania.

- Hundreds of Indonesian children have died from Covid-19, one of the world’s highest child mortality rates.

- Bangladesh, Jakarta reports record jump in new cases.

- Kazakhstan has locked down several towns and villages and tightened restrictions after spike in cases.

- WHO calls for new lockdowns in Pakistan as infection rate is worsening.

- Egypt registers highest daily rise in cases. 

- Hospitals in Delhi and Mumbai overwhelmed.

- India to reimpose lockdown on 15m people in Chennai as new cases surge.

- Botswana brought back a strict lockdown in its capital city Gaborone and surrounding areas.

- Undetected outbreak in Nigeria caused 600 deaths.

- Pandemic is accelerating in Africa, cases jumped from 100,000 to 200,000.

- Ukraine’s first lady, Olena Zelenska, has tested positive for Covid-19.

- An official in Afghanistan has warned that the country’s actual number of infections is higher than the official figures.

- Iraqi militiamen drop guns to dig graves for Coronavirus victims.

- World faces worst food crisis in 50 years due to Covid-19.

- Brazil restores detailed Covid-19 data after supreme court ruling.

- Borders opened up across Europe on Monday after three months of closures.

Covid-19 Patient Gets Double Lung Transplant, Offering Hope for Others.

Healthy lung.

 

Infected Covid-19 lung from a girl in her 20's.


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Bitcoin go up.

Coinbase go down.

Like clockwork.

well, if mindtrust had coins on Coinbase, he would possibly still have them  Grin

I don't want to neg on him too much 'cause I had my share of panic sells as many others had as well, I am reasonably sure, unless y'all have iron balls.
Maybe the difference is that you don't panic sell the stash, but rather a small portion. I consider it a sacrifice (like in ancient Greece)) for the sake of all remaining bitcoiners.
Blow off steam.

Coronavirus Cases: 8,049,670. Deaths: 436,682. Recovered: 4,154,981.

- More than 100,000 new cases worldwide were reported each day for the last two weeks.

- A resurgence in new infections has been detected in Florida, Texas and California. 170,000 new cases in the U.S within one week.


What this does to a theory that temperature should bring it down? We had a couple weeks with temp above 90F or above 32C, but cases are climbing fast.
People don't realize that it is an entity that could mutate to facilitate it's propagation. Pure darwinian evolution in real time.
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This thread didn't exist in 2012.
was the other thread, technicality

True. I thought about that, the original non-self-moderated 1000 post AdamSTGbit wall observer thread.

Tried to find it to see what it was doing in 2012, but couldn't find it.

Do you mean this one?

Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85687.0
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June 15, 2020, 05:04:41 PM

Sooooooooooo mindrust appearance = to be considered bullish ??
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Sooooooooooo mindrust appearance = to be considered bullish ??

Seems so ...
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June 15, 2020, 05:20:16 PM

Sooooooooooo mindrust appearance = to be considered bullish ??

Haha, the new reverse indicator?


When mindrust appears
We buy some more bitcoins quick
That guy fucked himself

mindrust reverse indicator Haiku
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June 15, 2020, 05:30:06 PM

This thread didn't exist in 2012.
was the other thread, technicality

True. I thought about that, the original non-self-moderated 1000 post AdamSTGbit wall observer thread.

Tried to find it to see what it was doing in 2012, but couldn't find it.

Do you mean this one?

Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=85687.0

Yes, exactly. Thanks. Ahh the memories.

Toward the end it had become a lot like what this thread eventually became. Sorry Adam, your attempt to make a strict wall observance, no off-topic thread was doomed to fail. All you did by making it self-moderated was to keep it free of traditional moderation.

The old thread was the embryonic version of this one.

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June 15, 2020, 05:44:36 PM

- A resurgence in new infections has been detected in Florida, Texas and California. 170,000 new cases in the U.S within one week.

IIRC, Dallas county has had 300+ infections per day, for almost three to four days in a row now. It's up, but slowly stabilizing at a higher value. Was a couple-few days last week where I think they broke records for consecutive days.

Meta: It's troubling to me in a way. I've read reports that it is disproportionately affecting black and brown folk more severely than other races. Evidently there is some genetic component involved, leading to a harsher response to the virus. Sheeit.

Bob, the majority of people who die or even get seriously ill from it are elderly & or have other, pre-existing health conditions. 38, yes 38 people died of it in the UK in the last 24 hours. The whole thing, the lockdown was a massive over reaction imo.

I’d love to see how many people have died ‘of’ covid19 rather than how many die ‘with it’.


TL;DR

You’re going to be fine!
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- A resurgence in new infections has been detected in Florida, Texas and California. 170,000 new cases in the U.S within one week.

IIRC, Dallas county has had 300+ infections per day, for almost three to four days in a row now. It's up, but slowly stabilizing at a higher value. Was a couple-few days last week where I think they broke records for consecutive days.

Meta: It's troubling to me in a way. I've read reports that it is disproportionately affecting black and brown folk more severely than other races. Evidently there is some genetic component involved, leading to a harsher response to the virus. Sheeit.

Bob, the majority of people who die or even get seriously ill from it are elderly & or have other, pre-existing health conditions. 38, yes 38 people died of it in the UK in the last 24 hours. The whole thing, the lockdown was a massive over reaction imo.

I’d love to see how many people have died ‘of’ covid19 rather than how many die ‘with it’.


TL;DR

You’re going to be fine!

Reminds me of Y2K, every news agency was like the world is gonna explode and then we worked our ass off getting a plan in action, getting it funded from bean counters,  rolling it out and we nailed it and everything was fine and all the news agencies were like "Well that was overrated".
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June 15, 2020, 05:59:16 PM

@Hueristic

I haven’t took it seriously since day one, I’m a bit of a dick but hey. I was going out 4-5 times a day from the very start of lockdown.

I even bought these online so I could pass as a health worker just incase I got stopped by cops Grin



Covid19 can suck my plums.

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June 15, 2020, 05:59:22 PM

That's a different question, but i stopped trusting that anybody here who is claiming to never-go-mindrust would not go mindrust at some point. It's about credibility and the message it sends out to the world. "See: Even the most hardest bitcoin believers abandon ship at some point"-type of narrative. This has consequences. You change a single parameter in a complex system, you watch many other parameters change as well afterwards.
This is a hefty warping of WO reality. Don't try to play it down.

Something seems slightly wrong with your thinking on this topic, Oom - or maybe it is just your presentation.


Maybe both a little. Re-reading my presentation, it seems to me it was a little dramatic for sure.
Reconsideration is a good thing, most times.

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My opinion is that the more that any of us prepares for a variety of scenarios (including extreme scenarios), the less likely that any of us is going to perform some act that seems to be outrageously inconsistent with our past discussions regarding our preparations, plans or BIG goals, which a certain amount of consistency seems to reflect our character, so in that regard, many of us continue to be a bit shocked and taken aback by mindrust because he spent so much time discussing his various strategies and even a certain amount of the extremes, including his mindset to a considerable degree.. that he was just seeming willing to just throw out the window all of a sudden...

Sure, he has the right to do that.. and sure it is going to piss a lot of people off because it was seemingly quite a bit removed from what he had been disclosing his plans, scenarios and even extremes of such.

My opinion is, that if you have a plan, developed and adjusted over the course of years, and just throw it overboard in times of doubt, what the heck was it all about?
It smells fishy, or at least seems unauthentic to me. I would ask for advice if i'm even thinking about dropping out, at least for some kind of feedback, if i was a noob and thus insecure. But mindrust didn't ever show insecurities since i read the WO, imho. There were no signs of weakness, afair. Even in earlier times of dipping. This all doesn't represent honesty. I don't even speculate about (secret or hidden) reasons that haven't become obvious, known or told (yet). WO hodler legendaries and hero members are seen as trustworthy, in general, according to my reading and chatting experience.

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Another bothersome aspect of mindrust might have to do with his seemingly conversion into a kind of nocoiner perspective.. which is really irritating and really not justified, even given that he did seem to paint himself in a corner to some extent.

And that adds to my reasoning for suspicion. Just a lil fishy, you know?
Later he also wrote he was in doubt from the start. Some even were speculating if mindrust sold his account, may it have been pure irony or not, but his u-turn was a good reason for such speculations, i think.

I just realize my post reads like a private message a little, but even if i should be wrong, i have got no reasons to hide my thoughts. Everybody can try to prove me wrong or point out errors that i made, convince me... I'll try to be open #nohomo.
I am losing track a little through my writings, but hopefully make my points clear enough, most time Grin
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[...]

The whole thing, the lockdown was a massive over reaction imo.
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Our ability to communicate at lightning speed at every corner of the planet has far superseded our ability to think rationally in the context of large groups. It won't be the last time that we do stupid things because of that.
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- A resurgence in new infections has been detected in Florida, Texas and California. 170,000 new cases in the U.S within one week.

IIRC, Dallas county has had 300+ infections per day, for almost three to four days in a row now. It's up, but slowly stabilizing at a higher value. Was a couple-few days last week where I think they broke records for consecutive days.

Meta: It's troubling to me in a way. I've read reports that it is disproportionately affecting black and brown folk more severely than other races. Evidently there is some genetic component involved, leading to a harsher response to the virus. Sheeit.

I've read so much shit about covid and sars2cov from the first days of the pandemic and it turned out that almost only the things that virologists and epidemiologists said were plausible and/or became true. The exception rate is very low, and if you protect yourself inside rooms you have to share with many other people, you should be very safe. The risk getting infected outdoors is virtually non existant when keeping a distance, because constant air movement in open spaces quickly lets the droplets and aerosols, which sars2cov attaches to, quickly dry off, killing the thing.
It's really like the flu, but more contagious because the virus is airborne for much longer times than influenza, thus inhaled more likely. Wash hands to not smear it onto moucosa and you're fine.

And, also important:
Preferably use your own toilet  Grin



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The whole thing, the lockdown was a massive over reaction imo.
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The corona virus has the potential to have 1 contagious person infect 1 to 3 other persons. Scientist use R0 (the reproduction number) for this.
They estimate that the corona virus has a R0 between 1.5 and 3.5

Link : https://labblog.uofmhealth.org/rounds/how-scientists-quantify-intensity-of-an-outbreak-like-covid-19

Currently the USA has more then 100.000 deaths and 2,1 million infections, while having a lockdown in place (a lockdown that was imposed rather late, but still)
Now estimate the number of deaths and infections without any lockdown. Also estimate how long hospitals can cope with all these infectious people needing IC
for a long period of time.
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Meta: It's troubling to me in a way. I've read reports that it is disproportionately affecting black and brown folk more severely than other races. Evidently there is some genetic component involved, leading to a harsher response to the virus. Sheeit.
Most likely blacks have less vitamin D due to darker skin. Take your supplements.
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June 15, 2020, 06:50:51 PM

No passphrase: 0.1 BTC
{normal_pass}: 10 BTC
{really_strong_pass}: 100 BTC
.....

I think I can compete with JJG on this one!  

OMG you have 110.1 BTC...

I wish!

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I was trolling you.

I admit it.



No passphrase: 0.1 BTC
{normal_pass}: 10 BTC
{really_strong_pass}: 100 BTC
.....

I think I can compete with JJG on this one!  

OMG you have 110.1 BTC...

I wish!

For many of us in the forum even the 10% of that if one has it that it really a very big thing. Also the price has started to gradually rise and now reached 9200$. It is now form 9k levels and wait and watch when it will try t cross 10k levels from here.

That 10% of that is nearly the amount that mindrust proclaimed to have struggled to garner up for over more than 3 years of painstakingly stacking sats, right before he sold all of it at $4,500.  How would that feel?
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