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[OutOfMemory]

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... they easily believe in conspiracy theories (the Alex Jones type), and, wait for it, they are almost exclusively devoted Christians! How perverse is that? How can they reconcile and combine the teachings of Christianity with misanthropic and violent attitudes and behaviour?

Well, christianity is very unlike to what the church was actually historically teaching. (judged by their past actions like inquisition etc.)
It's a basic form of separation the unworthy and the blessed. This is where all the trouble begins: comparison, judgement, condemnation (in this order).

Is society creating new waves of repressed psychopaths? What is the cause of this? What can be done about it?

Educating and getting aware of the human ego. The entity in our minds that is responsible for judging and comparison of what's "good" and "bad".
The "bad" guys always think they're doing things for "good". Almost nobody is aware of that aspect of human thinking.
Schizophrenia or some kinds of drugs make us able to separate from and observe it.

[Phil_S]

However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources

Violence needs to be addressed at 'violence' level, not on people 'having wrong opinions' level.

Yes, when you failed in preventing violence at educational and mindset levels, you have to address it at the "violence level".
In complex system theory, the latter would be a great example for a fail, however.

So... full-scale cultural revolution and re-education camps?

If our goal is to 'prevent violence' at all costs, I guess we must ban boxing, UFC, 'toxic masculinity', video games and movies?

[SATWAT]

However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources

Violence needs to be addressed at 'violence' level, not on people 'having wrong opinions' level.

Yes, when you failed in preventing violence at educational and mindset levels, you have to address it at the "violence level".
In complex system theory, the latter would be a great example for a fail, however.

So... full-scale cultural revolution and re-education camps?

If our goal is to 'prevent violence' at all costs, I guess we must ban boxing, UFC, 'toxic masculinity', video games and movies?

Your point is valid but in view of business nothing is going to be banned just because of this violence because they need these all things for more money and profit.

[HairyMaclairy]

And they did kill two cops. Oops, guess that was an accident.

We don't know the circumstances in those unfortunate and senseless deaths. I can't believe they were killed by Honest-To-God America-Loving Trump supporters. That is indeed a cognitive disconnect.

I see it more reasonable to suspect Antifa or left wing agitators as being responsible for those deaths.

EDIT: Eg: https://twitter.com/ReaICosy/status/1348898226687143937

That first dude totally looks like an agitator. That's some real home-grown patriotic America-loving behavior, I'll tell you hwat.

EDIT2: Maybe I just am that out of touch with things. Who knows.

This video shows the moment that a police officer is separated from the other officers.  It is believed that this is the video of Officer Brian Sicknick being beaten to death by the crowd but that has not been independently confirmed.  The video is not for the faint of heart.  It is nasty.  I note in particular the rioter with the long dark hair beating the officer with his American flag pole, while another rioter takes the policeman's helmet and puts it on his own head.  

Link to video here:  https://www.tmz.com/videos/2021-01-10-011021-capitol-chaos-new-angle-4909030/

In any event the FBI is seeking to charge the people who killed the officer (who was in full uniform) with felony murder.  It is only a matter of time before they are caught.

With all due respect to the conservatives on the thread, this is a Trump crowd and there is no one going to the aid of the officer.  There are however a lot of people beating on the officer.  I do not accept that the officer's death was somehow accidental or that it was not caused by the Trump crowd.  Alot of people are involved in killing this officer and no one appears to be trying to help him.

[Phil_S]

I guess you would support passing Patriot Act 2.0 as the proper response.

They'll say we need it, in order to prevent future riots.

[HairyMaclairy]

I guess you would support passing Patriot Act 2.0 as the proper response.

They'll say we need it, in order to prevent future riots.

No I would not.

I would say that you need to prosecute people that break the law.  Existing laws are sufficient, they just need to be enforced.

In particular, people that murder police officers who are trying to do their job need to face the full force of the law.  

And politicians that tell that crowd an hour previously that "“We fight like hell, and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore" bear responsibility for whipping up and inciting the crowd.  

A direct quote from Trump.  

Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you. … We are going to the Capitol, and we are going to try and give — the Democrats are hopeless, they are never voting for anything, not even one vote, but we are going to try — give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re try — going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.”

Now I know all the Trump apologists on this thread are going to say that he didn't incite violence and that he didn't mean it.  But in your hearts you know he wanted a riot and you know that he deliberately held back the National Guard and prevented the brave officers on the hill from getting the support they so desperately needed.

This was an attempted militia coup, and we are all very lucky that it failed.  Some might think that a rioting crowd erecting a gallows is just a prank, but that's not how others see it.  The fact that a number of rioters were carrying large packages of zip tie restraints indicates they intended to use them.

[OutOfMemory]

However, violence needs to be addressed at its sources

Violence needs to be addressed at 'violence' level, not on people 'having wrong opinions' level.

Yes, when you failed in preventing violence at educational and mindset levels, you have to address it at the "violence level".
In complex system theory, the latter would be a great example for a fail, however.

So... full-scale cultural revolution and re-education camps?

If our goal is to 'prevent violence' at all costs, I guess we must ban boxing, UFC, 'toxic masculinity', video games and movies?

Nope.
"ban" if not violence, is at least force. Should be avoided.
Did i already say it's an educational problem at its roots?
We can only address future generations with broad success, but we need to actually start at some point.

[vroom]

How can you be so protective of Trump supporters? Trump has been spreading lies and inciting hatred for years and what we see now is the result of that. Words have become deeds. I am sure that the division will continue under Biden, Trump voters feel cheated of their victory and do not accept the new president. You can see even here how deluded some people are.

[HairyMaclairy]

The FBI has made a public statement that there is no evidence the Antifa were part of the Trump riot.  They should know as they have already arrested over 93 rioters.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/01/08/fbi-no-evidence-antifa-involved-in-capitol-chaos/?sh=1a52d8726379

[Wekkel]

A direct quote from Trump.  

Now it is up to Congress to confront this egregious assault on our democracy. And after this, we’re going to walk down, and I’ll be there with you. … We are going to the Capitol, and we are going to try and give — the Democrats are hopeless, they are never voting for anything, not even one vote, but we are going to try — give our Republicans, the weak ones, because the strong ones don’t need any of our help, we’re try — going to try and give them the kind of pride and boldness that they need to take back our country.”

'Now it is up to Congress'. That's what I read. The rest is nothing troubling either.

You are reading your own opinion in those words. Snap out of it. If I want to see people fighting instead of reasoning, I'll go to Twitter.

[P_Shep]

The FBI has made a public statement that there is no evidence the Antifa were part of the Trump riot.  They should know as they have already arrested over 93 rioters.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/01/08/fbi-no-evidence-antifa-involved-in-capitol-chaos/?sh=1a52d8726379

Damn communist organisation FBI protecting it's left-wing comrades!

[Globb0]

At least Imgur strips metadata.

or who do they sell it to

[nikauforest]

Here is a good video from someone who was there.

I respect Bret Weinstein and Jeremy Lee Quinn for what they are trying to do. Which is bring everyone together and stop the hysteria. If you are left or right this video will not fuel your side. It really dives deep into what the country is facing. Also some surprising information about what happened during the day. The Media is trying to manipulate everyone.

DarkHorse Podcast w/ Jeremy Lee Quinn & Bret Weinstein: The Capitol Insurrection, A View from Inside
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sFJdjO0fD4E

[HairyMaclairy]

The FBI has announced this individual is being sought for the murder of the police officer.  You can see him holding the fire extinguisher.





Some people have suggested that CFD means Chicago Fire Department.   I don’t know about that.

[nikauforest]

The FBI has made a public statement that there is no evidence the Antifa were part of the Trump riot.  They should know as they have already arrested over 93 rioters.

https://www.forbes.com/sites/tommybeer/2021/01/08/fbi-no-evidence-antifa-involved-in-capitol-chaos/?sh=1a52d8726379

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/democracy-post/wp/2017/12/14/chinese-ownership-is-raising-questions-about-the-editorial-independence-of-a-major-u-s-magazine/

[nikauforest]

The FBI has announced this individual is being sought for the murder of the police officer.  You can see him holding the fire extinguisher.





Some people have suggested that CFD means Chicago Fire Department.

Everyone who causes violence or breaks the law needs to be arrested! I think we all agree. Just like what should have happened in the summer .

[HairyMaclairy]

The FBI comments have been widely reported as part of an FBI press conference.  Forbes did not make them up.

[Phil_S]

How can you be so protective of Trump supporters?

It only starts with them. It will be used against the Left eventually. Left also engages in protests, you know...

I am sure that the division will continue under Biden, Trump voters feel cheated of their victory and do not accept the new president. You can see even here how deluded some people are.

Just like Hillary voters felt cheated of their victory and decided not to accept the result...

[Millionero]

It only starts with them. It will be used against the Left eventually.

The "left" will put cop-murderers in jail.
Then it's up to the "right" to take revenge on the left for putting the cop-murderers in jail.
Bring it on.  And perhaps the so-called patriots' next fascist putsch will succeed.
But in the meantime, a bunch of killer clowns are going to jail.

[P_Shep]

I am sure that the division will continue under Biden, Trump voters feel cheated of their victory and do not accept the new president. You can see even here how deluded some people are.

Just like Hillary voters felt cheated of their victory and decided not to accept the result...

Man, yeah, those 2016 riots. Such a tragic loss of so many lives.