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January 25, 2021, 03:37:49 AM

Speaking of Covid, here's a clinical trial using a cocktail of low cost, readily available therapies (MATH+) given to various stage hospitalized Covid-19 patients.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/MATH-plus-Rationale-Journal-of-Intensive-Care-Medicine-Dec2020.pdf

Just look at the result outcomes on page 14.

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"The  average  hospital  mortality  at these  2  centers  in  over  300  patients  treated  is  5.1%, which represents more than a 75% absolute risk reduction in mortality compared to the average published hospital mortality of 22.9% among COVID-19 patients."

Of course the MSM has been dead silent about this. Gotta push those expensive vaccines.

 That's very interesting.  I had no idea famotadine had so many other attributes.  I thought it was only useful for acid reflux or ulcers.

    Acid reflux can enter your voice box and your lungs especially if the reflux is more pepsin than acid. You can get silent reflux and have no real symptoms of illness.  Catch the covid and it has a preconditioned set of lungs to infect.

Think of slightly inflamed lungs getting peppered with a virus. A nice recipe for 2x pneumonia .  My wife had exactly this issue and caught the virus got 2x pneumonia but in Dec31-Jan 16 of 2019-2020.

So no-one know what to do.  Luckily she never smoked and was in decent shape no heart, diabetes issues and  not overweight.  She did get lung damage and it was many months before the silent reflux was found to be one of two under lying concerns for her.

So here we are about 13 months after she got sick and she is now weaning off 2 acid reflux medicines and a procedure for a hidden condition that cause pressure on her stomach which also did some of the acid reflux.

It has been a bitch to have a loved one sick for this long.  Maybe by the spring she will return to normal.

We had 8 relatives get it. 3 were hospitalized my wife twice but as of today we all survived it.

 Wow.  Sounds like I shouldn't be skipping my medication Sad
I learn so much here.  Thanks!


 edit:  I hope your wife's health returns to normal soon.  The lungs are really good at healing themselves.
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January 25, 2021, 03:43:44 AM

Speaking of Covid, here's a clinical trial using a cocktail of low cost, readily available therapies (MATH+) given to various stage hospitalized Covid-19 patients.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/MATH-plus-Rationale-Journal-of-Intensive-Care-Medicine-Dec2020.pdf

Just look at the result outcomes on page 14.

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"The  average  hospital  mortality  at these  2  centers  in  over  300  patients  treated  is  5.1%, which represents more than a 75% absolute risk reduction in mortality compared to the average published hospital mortality of 22.9% among COVID-19 patients."

Of course the MSM has been dead silent about this. Gotta push those expensive vaccines.

Hm. An impact factor of 3.2 for this journal. That's not too bad, thanks for posting I'll read it. Still I'd rather not go to the hospital in the first place so I'm soooooo ready to be vaccinated. As they say in downtown: Stick the needle in my arm baby!
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Of course the MSM has been dead silent about this. Gotta push those expensive vaccines.

... we can rely on nutilduh to give us the MSM/Prada narrative right here on the WO, day in day out ... not a valid question, truth or conspiracy gets past this censor's eyes!

... he's wrong with BS about human genome containing coronavirus pieces of course, more pseudo-scientific misinformation FUD to muddy the waters of perfectly valid query about the origins of SARS-CoV-2 which goes against the Chinese Commies narrative. What he didn't expand on is where that 71 base pair sequence came from, how long has it been around, did it get from a common mouse virus into SARS-CoV-2 in a fucking bat cave in Yunan??
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January 25, 2021, 04:01:09 AM
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A Brief History of Gain of Function Viral Research

... we knew over 5 months ago that a mountain of overhelming circumstantial evidence points to genetically-engineered viruses escaping from labs going back to early as SARS-CoV-1 itself in 2002. Believe whatever you like, but don't believe your lying eyes seems to be the world we live in today. The sooner the lies are admitted we can get on with saving humanity from whatever the fuck this Chinese Communist PLA shit is before it starts integrating into the human genome and changing humanity's genetic evolutionary destiny forever ... defend the lies and history will not be kind to you.
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January 25, 2021, 04:30:41 AM
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What he didn't expand on is where that 71 base pair sequence came from, how long has it been around, did it get from a common mouse virus into SARS-CoV-2 in a fucking bat cave in Yunan??

Its been there for billions of years already and was incorporated into the human genome along the way. Is National Geographic also MSM/Prada/Chinese commie propaganda?


The Lurker: How A Virus Hid In Our Genome For Six Million Years

PUBLISHED MAY 10, 2013

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Scientists have studied these so-called endogenous retroviruses both in humans and in other species, and the evidence all points to the same scenario for how they genetically merged with us. Our ancestors were infected with retroviruses on a regular basis. On rare occasion, a virus infected a sperm or egg and managed to end up in an embryo. Every new cell in the embryo inherited the retrovirus DNA implanted in its genome. And then the embryo grew up into an adult, which then had offspring of its own, and passed the virus DNA on as well.

At first, the virus still retained some of its old powers. Its DNA could sometimes still give rise to new viruses. Mutations arose in the viral genes, and they might prevent it from making shells. Yet the dying virus could still make a new copy of its genes and insert them back into its host genome...

Eventually, however, the endogenous retroviruses got so hobbled by mutations that they became nothing more than baggage. (In some cases, we’ve domesticated their genes, co-opting them for our own functions, such as building a placenta.) Given that many matching endogenous retroviruses can be found in other primates, this process has been going on for millions of years–even tens of millions.
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We, humans, or rather our genomes, ARE mostly the virus, or, rather, retrotransposons, believe it or not.
55%-67% of our genome are those little "buggers", if you count simpler repetitive elements.
Alu and Line-1 are the newer and the elder, respectively.
Sometimes, Alu jumps into an important gene causing diseases, but it is mostly a benign "creature".
Every human cell got about 1 mil Alu retrotranspons, which constitute about 10.7% of human DNA.

As El_duderino says...not everyone would understand.

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January 25, 2021, 05:01:13 AM
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Damn y'all a bunch of McGregor haters  Lips sealed


Fuck that no class punk.

If I didn't know any better I'd think that you and others here only know him from headlines (bad way to form an opinion of someone).  Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed

I added the video, thats your hero?

"Hero" is a bit strong, not sure I've ever claimed him to be my hero  Roll Eyes

I'm not justifying what he did, but do you also know how it ended? Will one action define his entire character? Add some dimensions to your thinking.. This is a bitcoin forum after all, no?

i am not into mma, so a bit neutral here. a professional fighter who hits an old man because he does not want to drink a shot must be a incredible arsehole. and dangerous. disgusting.
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January 25, 2021, 05:03:43 AM

Damn y'all a bunch of McGregor haters  Lips sealed


Fuck that no class punk.

If I didn't know any better I'd think that you and others here only know him from headlines (bad way to form an opinion of someone).  Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed

I added the video, thats your hero?

"Hero" is a bit strong, not sure I've ever claimed him to be my hero  Roll Eyes

I'm not justifying what he did, but do you also know how it ended? Will one action define his entire character? Add some dimensions to your thinking.. This is a bitcoin forum after all, no?

i am not into mma, so a bit neutral here. a professional fighter who hits an old man because he does not want to drink a shot must be a incredible arsehole. and dangerous. disgusting.

And again, just reading the headline to form your opinion is a bit.. Meh.
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January 25, 2021, 05:19:05 AM

Damn y'all a bunch of McGregor haters  Lips sealed


Fuck that no class punk.

If I didn't know any better I'd think that you and others here only know him from headlines (bad way to form an opinion of someone).  Lips sealed Lips sealed Lips sealed

I added the video, thats your hero?

"Hero" is a bit strong, not sure I've ever claimed him to be my hero  Roll Eyes

I'm not justifying what he did, but do you also know how it ended? Will one action define his entire character? Add some dimensions to your thinking.. This is a bitcoin forum after all, no?

i am not into mma, so a bit neutral here. a professional fighter who hits an old man because he does not want to drink a shot must be a incredible arsehole. and dangerous. disgusting.

And again, just reading the headline to form your opinion is a bit.. Meh.


you are right, i only watched that vid and have no knowledge about circumstances or details. so i am only judging from what can be seen there. as long as this video is not fake it will be kind of hard to justify this attack imho. the guy is a pro. that is a no go imho.
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... this "have fun staying poor" meme is an arrogant dick kind of thing to say too. Some people can be rich without a cent ... or a satoshi.

It depends on whom you're saying it to, and how they have previously responded to your advice. I'm an extremely polite person, and would rarely say anything offensive to anyone, even if they deserved it. But I can tell you that the few I've said this phrase to, in relation to my Bitcoin comments and advice, fully deserved it.

Risking my OPSEC, but here goes...

Friday @ work. On our break, chatting with colleagues. At one point, one of them says to me, in front of everyone: "you should be careful, protect yourself, now that you're rich." I just ignored the comment. A few seconds later, another colleague stands up, and says this loudly to everyone. "You are all fucking stupid! The guy told us all to buy Bitcoin in 2017, and we made fun of him. We laughed at him. We ignored his advice. Now, go back to your desks. You are all stupid, and I am stupid too."

Man, that was a satisfying comment. It was all true. I told them all about Bitcoin, and they did exactly what the guy said. And now they're all getting close to me and indirectly asking me for advice. I could have said to all of them "have fun staying poor". I didn't, although they fully deserve it. So, this phrase has its place, it all depends on the circumstances.

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January 25, 2021, 06:46:54 AM

I could have said to all of them "have fun staying poor". I didn't, although they fully deserve it.

Yeah, probably not the smartest thing to say to your boss or coworkers.
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Speaking of Covid, here's a clinical trial using a cocktail of low cost, readily available therapies (MATH+) given to various stage hospitalized Covid-19 patients.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/MATH-plus-Rationale-Journal-of-Intensive-Care-Medicine-Dec2020.pdf

Just look at the result outcomes on page 14.

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"The  average  hospital  mortality  at these  2  centers  in  over  300  patients  treated  is  5.1%, which represents more than a 75% absolute risk reduction in mortality compared to the average published hospital mortality of 22.9% among COVID-19 patients."

Of course the MSM has been dead silent about this. Gotta push those expensive vaccines.

The vaccines aren't expensive. Once you're in a Western hospital you're already costing thousands so if there was an efficient treatment it would be used, price is secondary.

If this course of treatment is really useful then it will be used.
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... this "have fun staying poor" meme is an arrogant dick kind of thing to say too. Some people can be rich without a cent ... or a satoshi.

 It's actually a "funny, arrogant thing to say", considering the saying was stolen from degenerate DeFi addicts and violent mETH-heads, but hey, who am I to know meme origins...

EDIT: ...and I mean, if you consider the ironic meta in all of it, Bitcoin could drop to zero due to a fatal flaw, and we'll all have fun staying poor together !
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January 25, 2021, 07:18:42 AM

... this "have fun staying poor" meme is an arrogant dick kind of thing to say too. Some people can be rich without a cent ... or a satoshi.

 It's actually a "funny, arrogant thing to say", considering the saying was stolen from degenerate DeFi addicts and violent mETH-heads, but hey, who am I to know meme origins...

From where it comes or.... holders of BTC always knows better, we above that sh*t  Cheesy Cheesy
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https://twitter.com/100trillionUSD/status/1353324777528811522
"having fun staying poor" ??
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we above that sh*t  Cheesy Cheesy

LOL. HFSP, pleb !!
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January 25, 2021, 07:34:16 AM

Meanwhile: observing a pump for ants (asian traders up early?)  Grin
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January 25, 2021, 08:14:38 AM

Speaking of Covid, here's a clinical trial using a cocktail of low cost, readily available therapies (MATH+) given to various stage hospitalized Covid-19 patients.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/MATH-plus-Rationale-Journal-of-Intensive-Care-Medicine-Dec2020.pdf

Just look at the result outcomes on page 14.

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"The  average  hospital  mortality  at these  2  centers  in  over  300  patients  treated  is  5.1%, which represents more than a 75% absolute risk reduction in mortality compared to the average published hospital mortality of 22.9% among COVID-19 patients."

Of course the MSM has been dead silent about this. Gotta push those expensive vaccines.

The vaccines aren't expensive. Once you're in a Western hospital you're already costing thousands so if there was an efficient treatment it would be used, price is secondary.

If this course of treatment is really useful then it will be used.

The vaccines aren't probably expensive themselves (though I've heard some hefty prices being called per shot - also it should be noted that customers are not allowed to discuss pricing), but development in shortest time has been. Politics owes these companies now.
And politics always said the solution to this problem is a vaccine, how can they change their opinion now suddenly?

I've read a similar article recently in a local (quite reputable) newspaper (but can't dig up the source, sorry tried hard).
Basically a doc treating Covid patients said some combo of older drugs can even be sent to the sick by post with an oxygen meter so the patient can basically treat himself according to a simple manual (if blood oxygen goes below this, take this for this long etc.). They used this combination in hospital successfully but nobody wants to approve those drugs for use against Covid.
I smell certainly the stink of competing interests. Ask yourself, who should pay for the approval if the drugs in question are dirt cheap?

Billions have been invested in these vaccines, it would be shame to have them go to waste only because some cheap old drug combinations are effective.

I for one won't be getting this shot in the near future, I'll rather stay hunkered down for one or two years more and watch how things develop. But I am very thankful for those trying Contergan, Pandemrix, Covid vaccine.
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January 25, 2021, 08:33:34 AM

Is National Geographic also MSM/Prada/Chinese commie propaganda?

Well kinda, but the best one for that is History Channel (lol) and storage wars.
Show me da money, wtf is "history". Tongue

That said, of course humans are a collection of walking viruses.
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Speaking of Covid, here's a clinical trial using a cocktail of low cost, readily available therapies (MATH+) given to various stage hospitalized Covid-19 patients.

https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/12/MATH-plus-Rationale-Journal-of-Intensive-Care-Medicine-Dec2020.pdf

Just look at the result outcomes on page 14.

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"The  average  hospital  mortality  at these  2  centers  in  over  300  patients  treated  is  5.1%, which represents more than a 75% absolute risk reduction in mortality compared to the average published hospital mortality of 22.9% among COVID-19 patients."

Of course the MSM has been dead silent about this. Gotta push those expensive vaccines.

There is two options:

Option 1, catch some sun
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5311897.0

Option 2, vaccine


Best reserved for last. Do not have sex for a whole year after taking covid vaccine.
https://www.outlookindia.com/website/story/india-news-how-safe-is-it-to-have-sex-after-you-take-covid-vaccine-experts-advise-caution/371636

Excuse me now i go for walk, sun is out
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