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August 14, 2021, 04:28:39 PM
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OT: I've long since decided to steer clear of any more vaccine debates, but sorry this one I just can't let slide without comment.

Are. You. Fucking. Kidding. Me.  Angry

https://libertyonenews.com/report-pfizer-vaccine-confirmed-to-cause-neurodegenerative-diseases-study/

Abstract:
https://scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid19-rna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prion-disease-1503.pdf

I'm sure the MSM will crush this news with their complete silence.  Roll Eyes

EDIT: MSM already crushed it, report was published in February.  Roll Eyes
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August 14, 2021, 04:38:02 PM

OT: I've long since decided to steer clear of any more vaccine debates, but sorry this one I just can't let slide without comment.

Are. You. Fucking. Kidding. Me.  Angry

https://libertyonenews.com/report-pfizer-vaccine-confirmed-to-cause-neurodegenerative-diseases-study/

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https://scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid19-rna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prion-disease-1503.pdf

I'm sure the MSM will crush this news with their complete silence.  Roll Eyes

If we are still on the topic of video games, in early April or May in 2020 after I got the C0-vi-d like for the 5th time in a row (due to low immunity, D3 and otherf^cking vampire lacking vitamins).... I dropped under 200 APM's (actions per minute) on my videogames. And I was getting such headaches when I was trying to force myself to keep playing. And I knew there was some neurological degenerative f^ckfest going on. Smiley Cheesy Cheesy
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August 14, 2021, 04:39:58 PM
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OT: I've long since decided to steer clear of any more vaccine debates, but sorry this one I just can't let slide without comment.

Are. You. Fucking. Kidding. Me.  Angry

https://libertyonenews.com/report-pfizer-vaccine-confirmed-to-cause-neurodegenerative-diseases-study/

Abstract:
https://scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid19-rna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prion-disease-1503.pdf

I'm sure the MSM will crush this news with their complete silence.  Roll Eyes

EDIT: MSM already crushed it, report was published in February.  Roll Eyes

Oh Yeah! They covered it! (with a great big pillow, and held it in place until it stopped squirming...)
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August 14, 2021, 04:42:39 PM

Of course, there are examples of media twisting facts, opinion and logic, but generally they are at least supposed to, in theory, attempt to present matters in a neutral manner and disclose any of their personal biases.
They are suppose to bring news coverage that is not bias but they never do. I think there are more examples of news using stories to click bait and push a agenda than there is them being transparent and showing us the facts in a non bias way. We are in the world of click bait and they use that because they get more clicks and they benefit from that because it translates to more money for them.

Whoaza!!!!!   2019 - a blast from the past.

I don't know how you completely get rid of bias from reporting, but I know that there are a lot of people who have good intentions in terms of their own behavior and attempt to fairly present all sides of matters. 

Sure, they might get jaded (or they might not even know their own biases) or some of their presentations might get squashed by higher ups, and surely one of the new dynamics of on the ground journalism by novices on the interwebs can sometimes keep the BIGGER journalists in check - even though we do have some problems in terms of challenges to the funding of investigatory journalists, but even that is not completely disappearing - but as individual consumers we also have responsibilities to attempt to develop and engage in our own critical thinking about various information that we find, and I doubt that being unbelieving of everything or concluding that everyone is out to get you is going to be very helpful in regards to your employment of your own abilities to sort the better sources of information. 
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August 14, 2021, 04:44:16 PM
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In Germany ALL! the big news media sites started doing affiliate marketing, having thousands of pages in the search engines with "top 10 best toaster" "top 10 best pc mouse" etc. As you say, they are history soon. Due to their fake news, working for variant agendas who pay them (eg. Bill Gates is heavily in in Germany), many (still too less) people woke up and understand more and more you can not trust news media anymore. So, not so many visit their sites = less money from ads, more agendas enter the market and pay em because it gets cheaper to buy your self fake reputation or push your agenda through news.

They were on borrowed time as soon as the first TCP/IP connection was made. The ex-cathedra model can't stand in a world where everyone can be a source of information.
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August 14, 2021, 04:45:02 PM

I'm sure the MSM will crush this news with their complete silence.  Roll Eyes

EDIT: MSM already crushed it, report was published in February.  Roll Eyes

You're mistaking your inability to search with some sort of conspiracy. It's been debunked and forgotten.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/31/fact-check-covid-19-vaccine-not-associated-prion-disease/7053007002/
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August 14, 2021, 04:48:48 PM
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They are suppose to bring news coverage that is not bias but they never do. I think there are more examples of news using stories to click bait and push a agenda than there is them being transparent and showing us the facts in a non bias way. We are in the world of click bait and they use that because they get more clicks and they benefit from that because it translates to more money for them.

Of course. This is the logical, and to be honest ONLY possible outcome from a "Free, Ad supported" business model. Just look back to the penny papers and "newsies" of the 1890's: Each day the paper had to sell based on its own merits at that time. Just like news articles. And of course the more salacious, the more exciting, the more indulging articles are the ones that get clicked/bought and thus generate revenue.

It's a complete race to the bottom with consequences such as "Remember the MAINE!" and 600k dead in the US due to CoVID stupidity.

Paywalls and subscriptions fix this (look up the NY Times under Ochs) and provide more balanced and rational information because the articles are sold in a collection. We had the chance to do this in the late 1990s. We did not. And here we are.

So if your "news" source is exciting you, confirming those deepest desires/fears, and leads to endless clicks then it's not news. It's simply a hook to lure you around because you are the product being sold.

Life like that.
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August 14, 2021, 04:49:02 PM

Some Analysis I did:

- We might see a dip in between 19th - 22nd August.
- 1 Day Chart is showing decline and Price may retest lower levels.

Once we are done with that, we will reach another ATH before December, 2021.
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August 14, 2021, 04:51:22 PM

Even though I did send you a merit, I do believe that it is a bit unfair to pick 10 years as an investment timeline, and probably something like 8 years would be a more fair representation..

Can you explain why you think so?  Smiley

I am just referring to the somewhat lack of a market for bitcoin in the first few years, and also how much of a niche that it was in the earlier days - even though it is intended as a utility that is meant to serve the whole world.

Of course, when we go into the future, we are going to continue to look back at bitcoin and say that it was more niche then than it is now, because bitcoin is quite likely to be constantly expanding in very exponential kinds of ways for many years to come.

If you want to attempt to fairly represent asset classes and to fit them in their respective categories, just consider it a wee bit more fair to cut off those first few years.. even though I understand and appreciate that factually, people who invested in bitcoin did exponentially outperform those other assets and any other asset class.. bitcoin still was very niche at that time and bitcoin is an invention that is much more than any of those other assets in terms of it protocol level of innovation.. more comparable to the invention of the internet.. but at the same time the internet did not have a value token attached to it in order to incentivize development and hoarding (not meaning to use hoarding in a negative context).
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August 14, 2021, 04:59:05 PM

I'm sure the MSM will crush this news with their complete silence.  Roll Eyes

EDIT: MSM already crushed it, report was published in February.  Roll Eyes

You're mistaking your inability to search with some sort of conspiracy. It's been debunked and forgotten.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2021/03/31/fact-check-covid-19-vaccine-not-associated-prion-disease/7053007002/

Well then take it and enjoy! You too can be part of the stats data collected over the next ten years.

Or is it a case of "It's for thee, but not for me" ? Lol

At least India has some fkn common sense regarding the Pfizer vaccine:

https://www.dw.com/en/india-pfizer-withdraws-covid-vaccine-application-for-emergency-use/a-56462616
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August 14, 2021, 05:22:51 PM
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OT: I've long since decided to steer clear of any more vaccine debates, but sorry this one I just can't let slide without comment.

Are. You. Fucking. Kidding. Me.  Angry

https://libertyonenews.com/report-pfizer-vaccine-confirmed-to-cause-neurodegenerative-diseases-study/

Abstract:
https://scivisionpub.com/pdfs/covid19-rna-based-vaccines-and-the-risk-of-prion-disease-1503.pdf

I'm sure the MSM will crush this news with their complete silence.  Roll Eyes

EDIT: MSM already crushed it, report was published in February.  Roll Eyes

The author of the above paper, J. Bart Classen, is a well-known and self-declared anti-vaxxer, not only of the COVID-19 variety, but a general anti-vaccinationist. The paper has already been debunked. Guys like him will jump at the first opportunity to promote their agendas, just like Robert F. Kennedy Jr. and others.

Some info on him (from Wikipedia, but you can check its sources): J. Bart Classen
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August 14, 2021, 05:24:13 PM

Can someone please merit JayJuanGee

No.

That's what she said.

Some Analysis I did:

- We might see a dip in between 19th - 22nd August.
- 1 Day Chart is showing decline and Price may retest lower levels.

Once we are done with that, we will reach another ATH before December, 2021.

Oh shit!!!!!!

I was afraid that we might have some volatility..

That sucks.

We are going to $60k by the 18th or the 19th?  Fuck..

Then a dippening back to what?

$50k?

$45k?  those fucks.  Always manipulating and causing crashenings.

This is getting real old guys.  Why can't we be stable (or have nice things?)?
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August 14, 2021, 05:31:32 PM

Well then take it and enjoy! You too can be part of the stats data collected over the next ten years.

I've already taken "it", and why wouldn't I. It reduces my risk of dying of COVID-19 at least 10-fold and I still want to enjoy the spoils of my precious bitcoins.
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Oh shit!!!!!!

I was afraid that we might have some volatility..


You know the rules. Before we get volatility we get days of nothing but chartbuddy posts here, followed by the tumbleweed gif.  Straight after the tumbleweed gif we get volatility, and 500 posts an hour here.
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You're mistaking your inability to search with some sort of conspiracy. It's been debunked and forgotten.

I mean, what the fuck are long term studies even good for anyway, amirite?
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You're mistaking your inability to search with some sort of conspiracy. It's been debunked and forgotten.

I mean, what the fuck are long term studies even good for anyway, amirite?

Bob, in the absence of long term studies and data, you aren't supposed to exercise caution with new drugs. You're supposed to kiss caution to the wind, jump in and YOLO.

Oh, wait..
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August 14, 2021, 05:57:24 PM


Oh shit!!!!!!

I was afraid that we might have some volatility..

You know the rules. Before we get volatility we get days of nothing but chartbuddy posts here, followed by the tumbleweed gif.  Straight after the tumbleweed gif we get volatility, and 500 posts an hour here.

Of course, we see these matters of volatility mixed with "seeming stability" play out in a lot of ways, yet I don't tend to recall a lot of periods in which the stability gets stuck at the top of the range for very extended periods without ongoingly pushing UPpity - but if we get something like a 10% to 20% correction, then I could see "stability" play out at that point, while people whine about such then stability.

Sure there are always exceptions.. and no king daddy would want to be too predictable..

yet

Right now, I consider that we are and have been moving UPpity for the past several weeks from the lower $30ks until our current bouncing around in the $45k to $48k -ish range.. and any of those kinds of price moves are still at the top of the price range and really no expectations to be sticking around in our current price range for very long.. it does not even guarantee that the direction will be UPpity from here... even if we should be able to feel higher levels of confidence regarding the bottom of $28,600 being "in"..


...... and what more could a guy (or a gal, or a bot, for that matter) ask for, without coming off as presumptuous (or overly greedy or lacking in patiencening?)?
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