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[ChartBuddy]

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[BobLawblaw]

... later that day

Yeah. Fuck. I'm doing 3x the daily return of an S9 in routing fees today.

Goddamnit

#LNMETA
Just processed a payment that was about 6-10x the on-chain cost of doing the transaction.
Going to need a bit to fully grok this.

[philipma1957]

... later that day

Yeah. Fuck. I'm doing 3x the daily return of an S9 in routing fees today.

Goddamnit

#LNMETA
Just processed a payment that was about 6-10x the on-chain cost of doing the transaction.
Going to need a bit to fully grok this.

so an s9 makes 14 x .22 cents = 3.08 x 3 = say 9.25 usd in BTC correct?

or 9.25/44000 = 0.0002102272727 btc a day

now lets do 365 x that = 0.0767329 btc yearly  so if you did 1.0btc to load the unit

and earn 0.0767329    you made 7.67% on your btc.

the questions are:

can you do this for a year?
what is the risk you get the whole 1 btc drained?

and you do realize this is basically POS scheme for btc?

power cost for a node is only 90kwatts a year or 9-18 usd.

Not against it just not sure if it is good or not good.

[ChartBuddy]

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[lightfoot]

Well, was his event there a mistake? Paying that much over normal on chain transactions would be unusual and not something to rely on. Kind of like high luck levels when hitting a block.

I'm fascinated with Bob's work on Lightning, and really glad he's making the date he finds public here. Please do keep it up....

[Richy_T]

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Third time today we've seen something like that. Something up with Bitstamp?

[BobLawblaw]

Not against it just not sure if it is good or not good.

...and this is partly the reason I'm so frustrated and becoming overwhelmed.

I don't know how to answer any of your questions at this time. I'm going down a strange rabbit hole, and it's entirely uncomfortable to say the least.

[ChartBuddy]

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[ChartBuddy]

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[philipma1957]

Not against it just not sure if it is good or not good.

...and this is partly the reason I'm so frustrated and becoming overwhelmed.

I don't know how to answer any of your questions at this time. I'm going down a strange rabbit hole, and it's entirely uncomfortable to say the least.

Yeah so in one month you received. 0.00062614 btc or about 0.00730000 in a yeah.

its late and I am tired I may have missed a .0

I know you have spent quite a bit of coin testing.

keep tossing stats. we have some good guys and can try to understand what returns per year are and what risk is to lose .

[JayJuanGee]

The situation for us HODLers/accumulators could be worse...

I understand that some folks have dilemmas regarding whether they should be buying MOAR at these levels... or just be HODLing through it.

There are surely some other kinds of peeps who are waiting... and they have been historically known as fence-sitters... and sure they might not even consider themselves as either waiting or fence-sitters because some of them are somewhat apathetic in regards to having any kind of belief that bitcoin is capable of helping their future self for these increasingly weird times that we are in, but what else is new?

I am not even going to say that the pattern is repeating exactly.. because the times are surely strange - and frequently people will keep engaged in their same kinds of attempts at normalcy and considering that at some point things are going to go back to the way that they were.. Things are not necessarily going to get worse, right?  Just go at thing day by day, even while aspects of their lives are way more related to macro-financial denigrations than they realize.. ... The balls can stay in the air.. right?    

Maybe the question for the fence-sitters who do not realize that they are fence-sitters would be: "have you taken any actions in terms of even trying to get off of zero, such as setting up some kinds of BTC-related accounts?"  Might not be a bad time to start.  No time like the present, right.. price is nice and "stable"... hahahahaha  stable?  right.  There are some folks who believe in stable in the short-term, and I am not even saying that I have any better clue at short-term direction.. .. in that regard, we are teetering just below a price that would put me over 50/50 that the bottom is in... but we are not quite getting there... so be it.  So be it.

[marcus_of_augustus]

... vaccine mandates are front and square for the discussion here and always have been, not even a little tangential, with losses of freedoms and bitcoin as a solution, sorry if you don't get it but I don't have time to explain it all here

... the plan is to maintain vaccine mandates, QR code digital identity aka "health passports", on the law books as they are making the covid shots required annually, even though they are dangerous and don't do anything better than natural immunity in Omicron era

... anybody protesting vax mandates will have bank accounts frozen at will by an army of keyboard gestapo in "national security command central" (really just some dweebs with laptops set up in basement somewhere), no court process, no money, no job ... but it's your "choice" ... they may just give your account a 10% haircut if you don't get vaxxed and say be happy you have anything you dirty unvaxxed, hateful human scum

... next phase is about financial repression to ramp up fear again before vax mandates get rolled back

... Canada leads the way, cyberattacks (or bank runs), same difference are coming it looks like, Ukraine cyberattacks started yesterday after the "war"/"invasion in this week" was another lie

Canadian banking outages
https://twitter.com/jamesmelville/status/1494092820260532227

What the hell is happening to Canada’s banks right now?

Ukraine bank cyberattacks
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-reports-cyber-attack-defence-ministry-website-banks-tass-2022-02-15/

...just like coranavirus pandemic they war game for it in the open so you can't say you weren't warned
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/exclusive-imf-10-countries-simulate-cyber-attack-global-financial-system-2021-12-09/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4OtkPvKfsU ... but with the idiots in charge at least you'll get some laughs when their beautiful plans collapse in a heap

[ChartBuddy]

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[ChartBuddy]

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[xhomerx10]

[serveria.com]

... vaccine mandates are front and square for the discussion here and always have been, not even a little tangential, with losses of freedoms and bitcoin as a solution, sorry if you don't get it but I don't have time to explain it all here

... the plan is to maintain vaccine mandates, QR code digital identity aka "health passports", on the law books as they are making the covid shots required annually, even though they are dangerous and don't do anything better than natural immunity in Omicron era

... anybody protesting vax mandates will have bank accounts frozen at will by an army of keyboard gestapo in "national security command central" (really just some dweebs with laptops set up in basement somewhere), no court process, no money, no job ... but it's your "choice" ... they may just give your account a 10% haircut if you don't get vaxxed and say be happy you have anything you dirty unvaxxed, hateful human scum

... next phase is about financial repression to ramp up fear again before vax mandates get rolled back

... Canada leads the way, cyberattacks (or bank runs), same difference are coming it looks like, Ukraine cyberattacks started yesterday after the "war"/"invasion in this week" was another lie

Canadian banking outages
https://twitter.com/jamesmelville/status/1494092820260532227

What the hell is happening to Canada’s banks right now?

Ukraine bank cyberattacks
https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/ukraine-reports-cyber-attack-defence-ministry-website-banks-tass-2022-02-15/

...just like coranavirus pandemic they war game for it in the open so you can't say you weren't warned
https://www.reuters.com/markets/europe/exclusive-imf-10-countries-simulate-cyber-attack-global-financial-system-2021-12-09/


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L4OtkPvKfsU ... but with the idiots in charge at least you'll get some laughs when their beautiful plans collapse in a heap

Man, what's ur problem? EU countries are dumping/discontinuing vaccination certificates for good. Other countries most likely to follow. Ur ridiculous theory of neverending vaccine boosters and concentration camps for the unvaccinated is crumbling into bits and pieces. We are going back to normal. Enjoy life! We've won the battle with the virus. Smile and have a good time! Life goes on so stop this antivaxx bs!  

[JayJuanGee]

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Man, what's ur problem? EU countries are dumping/discontinuing vaccination certificates for good. Other countries most likely to follow. Ur ridiculous theory of neverending vaccine boosters and concentration camps for the unvaccinated is crumbling into bits and pieces. We are going back to normal. Enjoy life! We've won the battle with the virus. Smile and have a good time! Life goes on so stop this antivaxx bs!  

For sure, I don't completely buy Marcus's rendition of events.. but he is coming off as quite a bit less crazy now as compared to two years ago when he was saying similar things in early 2020.

Various government reactions have been draconian as fuck in regards to both their response to the virus, and also their seeming to have exaggerated and lied about a lot of things related to the virus and the supposed effectiveness of various vaccines and other treatments that have been (and continue to be) rammed down various throats...

about a year into the vaccines, it was already seeming to show various contradictions in the messages....  

Are governments really going to stop with the various mandates.. ?  I hope so.

Are we going back to normal or something that was closer to what we had prior to March 2020?  I hope so.

We all know that a lot of travel rights were removed after September 2001 in accordance with various false pretenses (at least we should be able to recognize that a lot of those various controls that went into place after September 2001 were overblown and never really rolled back in any kind of meaningful way).

Do you really believe that various govts around the world are going to be giving back various freedoms to people.. travel, assembly movement, once they have been able to take them away and cause people to be scared of other people..?   That would be nice, but seems that governments tend to be quite disinclined to give back freedoms after they have been successful in taking  them away.. .. and for sure I am not any kind of anti-govt person.. but there are some sickening aspects to some of these expectations of compliance matters and the shutting down of speech and the intensities of some of the deplatforming and deplatforming attempts.

Seems to me that peeps are less inclined to even want to talk to other people in the real world...

Govts love those kinds of dynamics of causing fear and internal fighting amongst the plebs while they continue to reel from fear regarding abilities to keep financial systems from crashing...?  freedom from the powers of bitcoin too.,. do you believe that these various other battles in social systems are not related to desires to control the finances of normies too?

yeah.. maybe you have some personal issues with marcus.. and maybe he can be a bit less confrontational in his various presentations of matters... but there seems to be quite a bit of truth in several matters that he is pointing out, even if he is not getting all of the details correct.. or reaching some extreme conclusions...

[ChartBuddy]

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[Paashaas]

Congratulations Proudhorn, your endless repetitive tiresome trolling jokes made you ''famous''.


https://www.benzinga.com/markets/cryptocurrency/22/02/25680236/is-this-person-who-forecast-that-bitcoin-would-never-cross-3-the-oldest-crypto-bear-ever
https://twitter.com/MatthewHyland_/status/1493787935186976768

[ChartBuddy]

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