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This is BIG! $30k ... thanks Michael, $40k ... thanks Elon, $50k... thanks Vladimir!  Grin
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but, but, but...

there is always a dip, no?

remember 2018?  50% dip after already 70% dip.. right?  Happens ever time, no?

don't we have bad macro circumstances (uncertainties?)?

Isn't bitcoin correlated with stocks?  the NASDAQ? 

government and financial institutions have tools to keep bitcoin's prices down, no?  naked shorts, no?  just like they did with gold, right?

Maybe I should have thought more about pee-paring my lil selfie for UP  rather than preparing for down or sideways? sucks to be me.   (speaking for some forum members who will remain nameless for the moment) Cry Cry Cry Cry
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@jjg Exactly my point  you sarcastic fuck lol
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March 24, 2022, 04:01:06 PM

@jjg Exactly my point

By the way, in spite of my own ccccccciiiiiiittttttteeeeee about our current price action of the past few days.. I remain curious about the $46k to $50k price arena.. and just given the overall uncertainties with various macro uncertainties, I am leaning towards needing supra $50k for a day or so before I am really going to feel confidence that the $32,951 bottom of this particular correction is "in" ..

I know that several weeks ago, I had mentioned reaching such confidence that the "bottom is in" by getting above $46k for a day.... yet given current circumstances in the world - and some of the ongoing (yet not always exactly correlated) world events/market performances, I am not even considering $46k to be enough.. even though we have not really been above $46k since the first few days of January.. and we have also not even touched upon $50k for any part of this calendar year.. $48k was our highest in the first few days of January, if there is any symbolism in calendar years, perhaps?
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Explanation
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@jjg Exactly my point

By the way, in spite of my own ccccccciiiiiiittttttteeeeee about our current price action of the past few days.. I remain curious about the $46k to $50k price arena.. and just given the overall uncertainties with various macro uncertainties, I am leaning towards needing supra $50k for a day or so before I am really going to feel confidence that the $32,951 bottom of this particular correction is "in" ..

I know that several weeks ago, I had mentioned reaching such confidence that the "bottom is in" by getting above $46k for a day.... yet given current circumstances in the world - and some of the ongoing (yet not always exactly correlated) world events/market performances, I am not even considering $46k to be enough.. even though we have not really been above $46k since the first few days of January.. and we have also not even touched upon $50k for any part of this calendar year.. $48k was our highest in the first few days of January, if there is any symbolism in calendar years, perhaps?

As always your over thinking it.

 
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Not sure why some people are celebrating this 3% pump today we got.
I think it's a bit early to do, nevermind.

Where is the volume? You want to change a trend without volume.. that's absolutely stupid.
Why volume is important? Smart money/institutions/whales when do buying/selling, it causes huge volume. Do you really think Retail Investors will pump the F out of BTC?

Volume


Also, not sure if many of the people here know that you need to gain 200% up to recover 100% down.
In this example, BTC correction was of 52% from ATH and it needs 108% to reach the same price level.

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Negative thoughts have Negative consequences.  If there's one thing I've learnt over the last 10 years is don't listen to negative reality people.  I like to surround myself with positive people and a bucket of sand to put my head in when thing get too much . Working so far
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Negative thoughts have Negative consequences.  If there's one thing I've learnt over the last 10 years is don't listen to negative reality people.  I like to surround myself with positive people and a bucket of sand to put my head in when thing get too much . Working so far



One of the great secrets of life is that we all have much more control than most people realize over not only our thoughts but also our realities.
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March 24, 2022, 04:31:06 PM

@jjg Exactly my point

By the way, in spite of my own ccccccciiiiiiittttttteeeeee about our current price action of the past few days.. I remain curious about the $46k to $50k price arena.. and just given the overall uncertainties with various macro uncertainties, I am leaning towards needing supra $50k for a day or so before I am really going to feel confidence that the $32,951 bottom of this particular correction is "in" ..

I know that several weeks ago, I had mentioned reaching such confidence that the "bottom is in" by getting above $46k for a day.... yet given current circumstances in the world - and some of the ongoing (yet not always exactly correlated) world events/market performances, I am not even considering $46k to be enough.. even though we have not really been above $46k since the first few days of January.. and we have also not even touched upon $50k for any part of this calendar year.. $48k was our highest in the first few days of January, if there is any symbolism in calendar years, perhaps?

As always your over thinking it.

One man's over thinking is another man's opinion... I am not saying anything much different than I had been saying previously.. just a bit of a tweak regarding what my opinion is in terms of potential weight to give to momentum in these kinds of circumstances.  

Further even if I express various kinds of opinions regarding where we might be, how we got here or where we might be going, these are largely tweaks in probabilities, and surely one of the current questions in the mix remains whether BTC is still in a bull market or has transitioned into a bear market.

Another concern has to do with the applicability of some overarching theories including but not limited to 1) stock to flow, 2) four-year fractal and 3) exponential s-curve adoption based on Metcalfe principles and network effects.

There are also guys pumping out their own BTC price models, and frequently I am pretty damned critical of BTC price models that fail/refuse to account for some of the ongoing models (3 mentioned above), yet of course, if good ideas come up that attempt to better explain what might be going on in terms of BTC price performance, I have no problem considering those kinds of matters in the ways that I think about BTC prices.

So then, bitcoinPsycho, what might be the theory that you would like to espouse at this moment in order to NOT overthink the situation in terms of UP, DOWN or sideways?  Have you ever heard of fake outs?  Have you happened to look at almost all markets going up at the moment and BTC happens to be going up slightly more (but surely not more than all of them... and that's short term anyhow, no?  anything can happen in the short-term no?)

You might want to explain whatever zen way that you consider to be a preferable approach for guys like this cat who have already historically approached these kinds of bitcoin discussion matters in ways that you might consider to be difficult to relate to, no?  some guys, always over-thinking when there is a more simple explanation/approach (that has not been explained but just needs to be felt, right?).

Not sure why some people are celebrating this 3% pump today we got.
I think it's a bit early to do, nevermind.

Where is the volume? You want to change a trend without volume.. that's absolutely stupid.
Why volume is important? Smart money/institutions/whales when do buying/selling, it causes huge volume. Do you really think Retail Investors will pump the F out of BTC?

Volume


Also, not sure if many of the people here know that you need to gain 200% up to recover 100% down.
In this example, BTC correction was of 52% from ATH and it needs 108% to reach the same price level.


Look ImThour has a lot of answers, no?

Of course, many of us already recognize/appreciate that ImThour is filled with a lot of DOWNity hopium in his assessments of BTC price dynamics, but still does not necessarily mean that he (ImThour) is wrong regarding a kind of need for BTC prices to get above certain price thresholds in order for there to be some kind of confidence that the bottom may well be in.. and my current thinking (as I already attempted to outline above) happens to be getting above $50k for a day.. and of course, there is a wee bit of a moving target dynamics to any of these kinds of assessments.. at least in terms of needs to account for events as they unfold, even if many of us might have decent senses of long term dynamics, discussion of short-0term dynamics can be all over the place and even more likely to be wrong, even if accounting for a decently large number of the indicators and influential variables/events.

Negative thoughts have Negative consequences.  If there's one thing I've learnt over the last 10 years is don't listen to negative reality people.  I like to surround myself with positive people and a bucket of sand to put my head in when thing get too much . Working so far

I am not sure if striving to maintain positive thoughts is going to cause ongoing and persistent NGU.. especially in the short-term.
 #justsaying.

I do believe that attempting to prepare both financially and psychologically for a variety of scenarios tends to be a good practice, even though each of us make these kinds of preparations in varying ways - hopefully accounting for our own individual factors.. do I need to list those individual factors? at this time?
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Your lack of spirit is annoying... but that's just me
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Not sure why some people are celebrating this 3% pump today we got.
I think it's a bit early to do, nevermind.

Where is the volume? You want to change a trend without volume.. that's absolutely stupid.


What if we're still in a bull market which started in 2019? Then bears need volume to break the trend not bulls?   Cool
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Not sure why some people are celebrating this 3% pump today we got.
I think it's a bit early to do, nevermind.

Where is the volume? You want to change a trend without volume.. that's absolutely stupid.


What if we're still in a bull market which started in 2019? Then bears need volume to break the trend not bulls?   Cool

What if we're still in a bull market which started in 2009?
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300mil high leverage shorts on Binance after the pump to 44k. I'm guessing the increase in margin sells is similar. Thus the probability of a short squeeze has increased. This should fuel the pump above the resistance at 44K-45K.
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Not sure why some people are celebrating this 3% pump today we got.
I think it's a bit early to do, nevermind.

Where is the volume? You want to change a trend without volume.. that's absolutely stupid.


What if we're still in a bull market which started in 2019? Then bears need volume to break the trend not bulls?   Cool

Hahahahahaha

Didn't think of that... (speaking for ImThour)

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Not sure why some people are celebrating this 3% pump today we got.
I think it's a bit early to do, nevermind.

Where is the volume? You want to change a trend without volume.. that's absolutely stupid.


What if we're still in a bull market which started in 2019? Then bears need volume to break the trend not bulls?   Cool

What if we're still in a bull market which started in 2009?

What if.....?  ditto Tongue Tongue
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300mil high leverage shorts on Binance after the pump to 44k. I'm guessing the increase in margin sells is similar. Thus the probability of a short squeeze has increased. This should fuel the pump above the resistance at 44K-45K.

Hopefully!
I do miss the euphoria of most of 2021. Nothing would make me happier than to explode towards $200,000. I am bearish until the next halving though if I’m honest.
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