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Question: Price Target for Nov. 30, 2024:
<$75K - 3 (3.8%)
$75K to $80K - 1 (1.3%)
$80K to $85K - 2 (2.5%)
$85K to $90K - 9 (11.3%)
$90K to $95K - 12 (15%)
$95K to $100K - 13 (16.3%)
>$100K - 40 (50%)
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WHITE HOUSE TO CRAFT BITCOIN MINING POLICY ADDRESSING ENERGY USE: REPORT
The Biden administration is reportedly crafting policies intended to lower energy consumption and emissions from bitcoin mining.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/white-house-to-reduce-bitcoin-energy-use-report

It's the same old narrative: "we must make Bitcoin use less energy"... Those who advocate this idea cannot see that it is a fallacy by definition. It's precisely that inflow of energy that gives Bitcoin its value. Cut down the energy usage, and you cut down Bitcoin's value. If there's something they should be targeting, it is not the amount of energy used, but the energy source (fossil fuels vs. renewable sources).

The amount of energy has to be kept high, and should actually increase, for the price to be able to reach 6 digits and beyond. It is precisely the immense amount of energy required for mining that gives Bitcoin its scarcity, and hence its value. It's a closed-loop system.

Those bureaucrats don't have a clue.
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It's the same old narrative: "we must make Bitcoin use less energy"... Those who advocate this idea cannot see that it is a fallacy by definition. It's precisely that inflow of energy that gives Bitcoin its value. Cut down the energy usage, and you cut down Bitcoin's value. If there's something they should be targeting, it is not the amount of energy used, but the energy source (fossil fuels vs. renewable sources).


If you really want to cut energy use, slash the federal government by 90% and allow the current banking system to atrophy as it should.
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We’re just here chilling, thinking this is the bottom & we can’t go any lower.

Nah, I think almost everyone here is aware that we indeed could go lower..


Question is if people want to wait for a possible 17k-25k price that might never happen. Or do they choose to buy for 27k-30k.... and how much does that even matter if when BTC goes into 100k-300k area.

I remember that there was also buying hesitation in the 3k area last time, because people were calling 2k, 1k BTC.. even sub 1k.

But yeah, let's see

In fact going below $19k would mean we'd break another BTC pattern of never going under the previous ATH. After we had no blowoff top this cycle I won't be surprised however.  Grin
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$30,000 definitely feels like the $6,000 point in 2018. We’re just here chilling, thinking this is the bottom & we can’t go any lower. I hope it is but if we test the lows I am going to buy with all I have.

Interesting times!

True, but...  $3k was not supposed to happen: it was caused by a black swan event when sort of a flash crash happened and we were back to ~$6k soon. So quite possible $6k was the true bottom. We will certainly never find out. Atm I don't see how we can go lower than $25k without something really apocalyptic like "US bans Bitcoin" which is btw totally possible because of the latest news of Russia embracing BTC. There's always old good zombie apocalypse for sure too...  Grin Grin Grin
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So right at the bottom of the Bitcoin market, the MSM makes sure to push headline articles like this:

Winklevoss twins’ Gemini cutting 10% of its staff, saying ‘crypto winter’ is here
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/06/02/winklevoss-twins-gemini-citting-10percent-says-crypto-winter-is-here.html[/b]

You hear that Average Joe? The crypto winter is here! Sell all your bitcoin! Go spend your fiat instead and make yourself happy! /s  Roll Eyes
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We’re just here chilling, thinking this is the bottom & we can’t go any lower.

Nah, I think almost everyone here is aware that we indeed could go lower..


Question is if people want to wait for a possible 17k-25k price that might never happen. Or do they choose to buy for 27k-30k.... and how much does that even matter if when BTC goes into 100k-300k area.

I remember that there was also buying hesitation in the 3k area last time, because people were calling 2k, 1k BTC.. even sub 1k.

But yeah, let's see

In fact going below $19k would mean we'd break another BTC pattern of never going under the previous ATH. After we had no blowoff top this cycle I won't be surprised however.  Grin


Yup. Although, the same fact could lead to the opposite argument as well: since we had no parabolic blowoff, we won't have a 80%-85% low as well.


If we were to go under the last cycle's ATH, it would certainly shake out the market extremely well. Actually a perfect base for an extreme bull to 200k-300k ...
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$30,000 definitely feels like the $6,000 point in 2018. We’re just here chilling, thinking this is the bottom & we can’t go any lower. I hope it is but if we test the lows I am going to buy with all I have.

Interesting times!

True, but...  $3k was not supposed to happen: it was caused by a black swan event when sort of a flash crash happened and we were back to ~$6k soon. So quite possible $6k was the true bottom. We will certainly never find out. Atm I don't see how we can go lower than $25k without something really apocalyptic like "US bans Bitcoin" which is btw totally possible because of the latest news of Russia embracing BTC. There's always old good zombie apocalypse for sure too...  Grin Grin Grin

Actually, we had a "natural" crash to 3k before the Covid crash, we hovered at 3k for 4 months. Covid was just a short revisit to that 3k area.
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WHITE HOUSE TO CRAFT BITCOIN MINING POLICY ADDRESSING ENERGY USE: REPORT
The Biden administration is reportedly crafting policies intended to lower energy consumption and emissions from bitcoin mining.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/white-house-to-reduce-bitcoin-energy-use-report

Oh gawd, what retarded bullshit is this going to be? crafted by the biggest joke administration of all of history, and by a bunch of wokeist ill  informed policy creators.... messing with something they have exactly zero understanding of.

Great.... this will be shitty af most likely.

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I am just here to publicly say... i barely know who Johnny Depp even is.  I have never seen of those dress up pirate movies.  I could not pick Amber Herd(?) out of a lineup, and I have no idea what the court case was about at all, other than someone shit in a bed.

I could not care less about that stuff, and I sort of think it's bread and circuses.

Seems like most folks liked the outcome.

I honestly think we are about to see the pendulum swing back from this post-modern madness we have come to where people are using emojis as their pronoun, and we have to "believe all women" etc.

In the US them coming to try to take the guns will probably be where the pendulum starts back over in fullness...
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$30,000 definitely feels like the $6,000 point in 2018. We’re just here chilling, thinking this is the bottom & we can’t go any lower. I hope it is but if we test the lows I am going to buy with all I have.

Interesting times!

True, but...  $3k was not supposed to happen: it was caused by a black swan event when sort of a flash crash happened and we were back to ~$6k soon. So quite possible $6k was the true bottom. We will certainly never find out. Atm I don't see how we can go lower than $25k without something really apocalyptic like "US bans Bitcoin" which is btw totally possible because of the latest news of Russia embracing BTC. There's always old good zombie apocalypse for sure too...  Grin Grin Grin

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$30,000 definitely feels like the $6,000 point in 2018. We’re just here chilling, thinking this is the bottom & we can’t go any lower. I hope it is but if we test the lows I am going to buy with all I have.

Interesting times!

True, but...  $3k was not supposed to happen: it was caused by a black swan event when sort of a flash crash happened and we were back to ~$6k soon. So quite possible $6k was the true bottom. We will certainly never find out. Atm I don't see how we can go lower than $25k without something really apocalyptic like "US bans Bitcoin" which is btw totally possible because of the latest news of Russia embracing BTC. There's always old good zombie apocalypse for sure too...  Grin Grin Grin

Actually, we had a "natural" crash to 3k before the Covid crash, we hovered at 3k for 4 months. Covid was just a short revisit to that 3k area.

The latest drop to 25K was due to terra's dumping 80K bitcoins at once. This is not something that can be described as a market regularity. Technically, it is not a black swan event, but in practice it can be attributed to it due to its uniqueness.

Regarding the discussed 85% drop: it would take us around 10K, while 20K would be a 71% drop. I believe that such a crash to 20K, which from the current levels is more than 33%, would only happen briefly in a black swan event. For example, panic around the world, if God forbid the antichrist putler decides to use nuclear weapons. Or some other stable coin collapses and has to sell tens of thousands of bitcoins.

And here I will say something that I noticed some time ago in connection with the first crash to $3100 at the end of 2018. For a long time we all thought it was caused by the panic with the appearance of bsv and fake tweets that cw will dump 1 mil. bitcoins on the market and will bring down the price to $1000. There were quite a few peeps believing his lies. But then I noticed something very strange. A few days before the big crash, the tether company burned billions of tethers.

Recall that at that time, they were trying to convince the US authorities that the tether was "almost" 100% backed up with fiat. You see, not only with usd, but also with real estate and bitcoins (terra, cough, cough). These bitcoins were bought by the tether company in 2017 at a price between $1000 and $3000 with the clear intention that they will rely on bitcoin to make a profit one day. Once it became clear that this was the case, despite the tether's denial, in order to cover their tracks, they had to burn the tethers urgently and get rid of the bitcoins. Again, you can look at the statistics in glassnode to come to this conclusion, but there is no way to prove 100% that this really happened. If so, however, this was again a black swan event, not a market regularity. This was confirmed by the fact that only a few months later, the price already approached 14K.

In light of all this, if bitcoin is moving within its current limits for a long time, it is very likely that there will be another black swan event that will break the bottom of 30K. But whether it will stay long enough below 25K for everyone to buy with larger investments, cannot be guaranteed. So it is better to buy regularly DCA style.
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JUST IN - Florida House candidate: My donors "don’t want to use U.S. dollars. They want to use #bitcoin." 🇺🇸



Source link: https://twitter.com/BitcoinMagazine/status/1532044503506362368


The US just line-up now focused on bitcoin BTC

I would also like to use Bitcoin on my holiday in Florida. Preferably pay out directly from an ATM. But according to https://coinatmradar.com/, I first have to register with SMS, name and phone number first. As if I would want to. And I probably need an american phone number for that too.

I have heard that burner phones are a thing.. and I have heard that sometimes people use pseudo-names.. .. so there could be a way. .. no?

$30,000 definitely feels like the $6,000 point in 2018. We’re just here chilling, thinking this is the bottom & we can’t go any lower. I hope it is but if we test the lows I am going to buy with all I have.

Interesting times!

That would suck.

Go 50% (which would be $14k/$15k-ish) down from here?  or even just down to a wee bit below $20k.. either would suck... and surely don't even seem to be close to as possible as was the nearly 50% drop in November 2018... but hey, I would not keel over if such things were to happen (even if my mouth would be agape)..

I am actually thinking that a dip down to the 200-week moving average (which is currently a wee bit above $22k) and perhaps even wicking below that is amongst the worstest of scenarios.. but hey, sure, king daddy (and various manipulators too) surely would like to push worstest to the most extremenest as possible, and some of them are actually so fucking stupid as to believe that Michael Saylor (and MSTR) might end up getting liquidated and panic if they were able to bring prices down to $20k or $21k, so I can see that they might get a hard-on and put their all into achieving such pie in the sky wet dream that would likely end up back-firing on them if they want to play with such likely misplaced optimism that they would be able to both push king daddy down and also keep king daddy down.. good luck with that... you (not you specifically LFC) will need it..
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I am just here to publicly say... i barely know who Johnny Depp even is.  I have never seen of those dress up pirate movies.  I could not pick Amber Herd(?) out of a lineup, and I have no idea what the court case was about at all, other than someone shit in a bed.

I could not care less about that stuff, and I sort of think it's bread and circuses.

Seems like most folks liked the outcome.

I honestly think we are about to see the pendulum swing back from this post-modern madness we have come to where people are using emojis as their pronoun, and we have to "believe all women" etc.

In the US them coming to try to take the guns will probably be where the pendulum starts back over in fullness...


I totally agree with the sentiment of your post....

However.... never mind The pirates of the Caribbean... if you have not seen the following... they are all worth a watch


Platoon
Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas
Tusk
Transcendence
Blow


All worth a watch, Fear and Loathing, is especially good, it is one of my favourite books.  (and the film was made before by others, but never made it to release as Hunter S Thompson did not like them.... he did however like this version with Depp... its pretty decent)

Blow is pretty good.... Tusk and Transcendence are interesting for different reasons... I mean Tusk is demented (Depp only plays a supporting role) and Transcendence is not bad science fiction......  and Platoon , well, its Platoon.

I could mention the Nightmare on Elm Streets that he was in and of course, Lost Boys....


As it goes, I was kinda "forced" to watch Pirates of the Caribbean(s) by this chick I was fucking... and, actually I was surprised, I actually enjoyed it.

ps, yeah I could not give a fuck about the trial either, not really followed it.... but seems like a bitch got served for being a bitch... life's a bitch.
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WHITE HOUSE TO CRAFT BITCOIN MINING POLICY ADDRESSING ENERGY USE: REPORT
The Biden administration is reportedly crafting policies intended to lower energy consumption and emissions from bitcoin mining.

https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/white-house-to-reduce-bitcoin-energy-use-report

It's the same old narrative: "we must make Bitcoin use less energy"... Those who advocate this idea cannot see that it is a fallacy by definition. It's precisely that inflow of energy that gives Bitcoin its value. Cut down the energy usage, and you cut down Bitcoin's value. If there's something they should be targeting, it is not the amount of energy used, but the energy source (fossil fuels vs. renewable sources).

The amount of energy has to be kept high, and should actually increase, for the price to be able to reach 6 digits and beyond. It is precisely the immense amount of energy required for mining that gives Bitcoin its scarcity, and hence its value. It's a closed-loop system.

Those bureaucrats don't have a clue.

It seems that the source is also a kind of false dichotomy.

I have no problem with the idea of supplementing various energy sources, but there seem to be a lot of problems just getting into a framework that tries to classify various energies as if they can do the same things that fossil energies have been able to do... all kinds of false narratives seem to exist when there is too much attempt to control the narrative in terms of this energy good and this energy bad, but then realizing that the answers are not as cut and dry as they are made out to be in terms of the various trade-offs that go into the matters of even when put into practice and also stress tested and also to figure out in truthful empirical ways rather than just plotting matters out on paper.



It's the same old narrative: "we must make Bitcoin use less energy"... Those who advocate this idea cannot see that it is a fallacy by definition. It's precisely that inflow of energy that gives Bitcoin its value. Cut down the energy usage, and you cut down Bitcoin's value. If there's something they should be targeting, it is not the amount of energy used, but the energy source (fossil fuels vs. renewable sources).

If you really want to cut energy use, slash the federal government by 90% and allow the current banking system to atrophy as it should.

Oh gawd....  case in point....   Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes

$30,000 definitely feels like the $6,000 point in 2018. We’re just here chilling, thinking this is the bottom & we can’t go any lower. I hope it is but if we test the lows I am going to buy with all I have.

Interesting times!

True, but...  $3k was not supposed to happen: it was caused by a black swan event when sort of a flash crash happened and we were back to ~$6k soon. So quite possible $6k was the true bottom. We will certainly never find out. Atm I don't see how we can go lower than $25k without something really apocalyptic like "US bans Bitcoin" which is btw totally possible because of the latest news of Russia embracing BTC. There's always old good zombie apocalypse for sure too...  Grin Grin Grin

LFC is referring to the November 2018 crashening from $6k to $nearly $3k.. which took until after the April 2019 UPpity exponential for BTC prices to get back above $6k (whichwas in the ballpark of 5-ish months - which I surely would not describe "getting right back."  

Now the March 2020 crashening did ONLY take a few weeks to get back above $6k.. but not before it had given mindrust a second chance to buy back his 10BTC below his mid $4k prices.. .which he refused to do and caused that subsequent recovery to feel even more dramatic for guys who had naysayed bitcoin in those kinds of ways.

$30,000 definitely feels like the $6,000 point in 2018. We’re just here chilling, thinking this is the bottom & we can’t go any lower. I hope it is but if we test the lows I am going to buy with all I have.

Interesting times!

True, but...  $3k was not supposed to happen: it was caused by a black swan event when sort of a flash crash happened and we were back to ~$6k soon. So quite possible $6k was the true bottom. We will certainly never find out. Atm I don't see how we can go lower than $25k without something really apocalyptic like "US bans Bitcoin" which is btw totally possible because of the latest news of Russia embracing BTC. There's always old good zombie apocalypse for sure too...  Grin Grin Grin

Actually, we had a "natural" crash to 3k before the Covid crash, we hovered at 3k for 4 months. Covid was just a short revisit to that 3k area.

Gachapin said it first...
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[ANN] POS is Fork Wars 2.0

WHITE HOUSE TO CRAFT BITCOIN MINING POLICY ADDRESSING ENERGY USE: REPORT
The Biden administration is reportedly crafting policies intended to lower energy consumption and emissions from bitcoin mining.


https://bitcoinmagazine.com/business/white-house-to-reduce-bitcoin-energy-use-report

This is a part of an organized, large-scale social, economic, and political attack being built against Bitcoin.  The overarching goal:  Make Bitcoin go POS.

Since Bitcoin survived the Fork Wars, this is the next iteration of an attempt to usurp Bitcoin.  To corrupt it.  To turn it into a tame market-circus animal in the service of big banks and VCs.

Some Bitcoiners (ahem, Jay) are too complacent about this.  They underestimate the threat, and overestimate Bitcoin’s robustness against such threats.  They forget that Bitcoin only won the Fork Wars because the Bitcoin community fought tooth and nail against a hostile takeover by liars and thieves.  Not because of “King Daddy” bravado.

Others are pessimistic.  I have spoken privately to people who have already given up:  “POS will take over everything.”  I have made to them the same argument:  “What if we had said the same about Bcash?”

This is an “all hands on-deck” moment.



On a personal note, this is why I restarted posting a few days ago with what was supposed to be a throwaway account.

Between May 12 and May 29, I had some nightmare experiences with altcoins that showed me just how bad POS is—no really, it’s worse than you think.  However bad you think it is, it is worse!  POS means centralization and total corruption, period.  My case against POS is far beyond the scope of this post.  Rest assured that I am not exaggerating, and I can make the case point by point.

I don’t idealize POW.  I do recognize that it is the best solution yet invented to the problem to which Satoshi applied it.  Criticizing POW to pump POS is a logical fallacy:  POS doesn’t actually solve the same problem, and it creates new problems.  To the most corrupt proponents of POS, that’s a feature, not a bug.  But most POS believers are innocently naïve about this:  Most people lack the requisite technical knowledge for a rigorous understanding of what POW achieves, and why POS fails to achieve it.  Until recently, I myself had only a moderate distaste for POS; I have invested in POS coins, considering it a minor flaw to be weighed against other factors.  The corruption of POS is subtle and pernicious.

In the same time period, I came across something that I had missed while I was busy struggling not to get wrecked on margin:  The jackals are circling.*

And one of my longtime favorite altcoins, a POW coin, announced that its dev team is actively working on a switch to POS!  

POS has been growing like a cancer in the crypto ecosystem.  I see it, because I am not living in a Bitcoin echo-chamber.  And I see the next step, because I think strategically.  When I put on my Evil Hat(TM), I ask myself, How would I tame Bitcoin?  The answer:  Isolate Bitcoin as the only major POW coin, then make mass-propaganda that eventually places Bitcoin in the position of either switching to POS, or losing users to POS coins—just as Solana’s founder has explicitly proclaimed on CNBC.  Add in legal and regulatory attacks on POW—the threat is of a magnitude that Bitcoin has never yet encountered.

It is irrelevant to me whether Bitcoin switches to POS, or Bitcoin is economically replaced by POS coins.  A POS “Bitcoin” would not be Bitcoin:  It would be a tamed, denatured, corrupted fake-Bitcoin that serves Goldman Sachs, FTX, and VCs running P&D on crypto-Twitter, all at my expense.  Its economics would become dishonest, because POS is an economic shell game—and it would be effectually centralized, under a thin veneer of fake “decentralization”.

Seeing the writing on the wall, I came home to the Bitcoin Forum** and tried to settle in, let people get to know me a bit—then prepare here for my next step, a carefully planned multi-prong strategy I have in mind for all-out, all-fronts defense against the POSification of all “crypto”.  It’s a shame that some low-grade trolls wish to deter positive community contributions.  As I remarked before, they do not care about Bitcoin.

Maybe this forum has degenerated into utter uselessness.  We’ll see.



Disclosures:

If Bitcoin ever goes POS, I will dump BTC.  I don’t know to what.  There is no alternative, no backup plan.  I don’t know what the hell I will do.  This is a fight to the finish—all-in, no compromises.

I have no past or present economic interest or investment in POW.  I never did mining; my involvement in Bitcoin and in some POW altcoins has only been in other ways.  Maybe I will get into mining in the future.  If so, that will be motivated primarily by the principle of supporting POW decentralization—not primarily motivated by money, other than “I must do break-even or better here.”  A high-risk, effort-intensive, hypercompetitive business with high upfront capital investment and razor-thin operating margins is not exactly what I personally enjoy doing.  Some people love it—I’m glad they do!




Footnotes:

* That’s a double blow to me, because I have been excited about Solana’s technology.  The implementation is a dumpster fire compared to Bitcoin Core; but it has some interesting ideas, and much potential.

I’m not criticizing it to please the WO crowd.  To the contrary.  In April, I spent weeks avidly studying Solana’s rusty source code—foremost trying to learn enough so that I could do something to make money in their ecosystem, pay off my margin debt, and save my BTC.

I like their ideas on a crypto-nerd “wow, cool” level, and I enjoy coding for their runtime.  But I am disappointed by the code quality and, in practice, the absurd unreliability.  When my standards for the quality of financial software engineering are set by Bitcoin Core, it spoils everything else.

I was planning that once I stabilize myself financially, I wanted to pitch in, contribute to Solana, help to improve it.  I have fresh ideas for mitigating the account lock contention issues in the TPU; lock contention is the primary cause of Solana’s “degraded performance” under high load.  Solana devs have been struggling with this for months, to no avail; check their GH issues.  It’s a hard problem, but not intractable.  Fix lock contention, close a few more DOS vectors, do some network optimization, improve code quality, tighten up the security of the development process, and Solana will be awesome!

Any Solana dev who reads this will understand what I just said.  Any Solana dev who reads this will know that I am an earnest, competent potential contributor.  Not a WO Solana-hater.

But now, I am furious at Solana.  Solana’s founder should have considered that if he attacks Bitcoin, then instead of Bitcoin losing users, Solana loses people like me.  And I’d wager I am not alone in that.  There must be not a few developers who may be attracted to Solana’s technology, but who will be outraged and disgusted by what its founder said about Bitcoin.

** I obviously have long experience with many accounts on this forum.  Not only one or two.  I will neither acknowledge the accounts that are mine, nor deny wrong guesses; why should I?

This is a privacy forum, founded by a pseudonymous Tor user.  The administration explicitly allows, and sometimes encourages the use of alt accounts.  I have never done anything wrong.  I have never had any accounts banned; I can freely wake any of them, anytime I want.  I have never abused multiple identities for fraudulent purposes.  I have never bought or sold accounts; I am strongly opposed to account sales, even though it is technically allowed by the forum rules.  And I have never sock-puppetted; those who accuse me of “sock-puppetting” do not know what the term means.

My identities and pseudonyms are nobody’s business but my own.
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June 02, 2022, 07:40:18 PM

I could mention the Nightmare on Elm Streets that he was in and of course, Lost Boys....

Side note: It wasn't Johnny D. in The Lost Boys, it was Jason Patric.

My favorite Depp movies are The Legend of Sleepy Hollow, Secret Window, Public Enemies, and Ed Wood.
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Slowly but surely Russia is winning the fight against America on the territory of the former Soviet republic of Ukraine. The question now is if the regime in Washington is so desperate to spill out this war outside this territory?
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