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Not sure when this is from but gas price comparison across Europe.



Can't help but notice those governments who complain about Russia the most are also forcing its citizens to pay the most.

The Netherlands sits on the largest natural gas field in Europe but that also doesn't help gas prices there. Much of it closed after light earthquakes but Germany is still getting some.


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Over the last 25 years The Netherlands spent 600 billion Euros on immigration & over the last 70 years the government made around 420 billion Euros from this largest gas field in Europe.
It is estimated between 2020-2040 The Netherlands will spend another 600 billion Euros on immigration.

Understand why governments are broke now, why citizens are starting to go broke and why BTC isn't rising at the moment?

The left want more hotels to be converted to immigration centres and the greens want you to go cold. People keep voting conservative but the greens and left wingers under direction of the WEF constantly get their way.

 Roll Eyes

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The Netherlands as the world's fifth happiest country

 This year sees the country achieve a score of 7,415 out of 10. Interestingly, researchers found that 97,6 percent of respondents from the Netherlands felt at peace with their life, while 86,9 percent felt the various aspects of their lives were in balance.

https://www.iamexpat.nl/expat-info/dutch-expat-news/netherlands-once-again-one-happiest-countries-world


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Why is the Netherlands a happy country?
This is due to the citizen's employment satisfaction, social support, mental health and well-being. The Netherlands has performed well in the generosity index, GDP per capita, social support, and the corruption index, making it one of the least corrupt European countries next to Finland and Denmark.

https://allaboutexpats.nl/top-10-happiest-countries-netherlands/

Indeed The Netherlands is often touted as a happy country. But that does not mean you should let a couple of political parties within a government coalition ruin that fun completely with pushing through their extremely costly green ideologies most people don't even support, and at the same time ignore the massive increase in energy costs (heading to an average €6500 per household) and in food (up 20% on average).
This was happening before the invasion in Ukraine by the way when people were told it was just temporary due to supply problems.

I was in The Netherlands when the Euro was introduced. I don't remember people being very happy as everything became very costly, very quickly.

I reckon this energy thing especially is a far bigger problem and that is not going to help BTC reach 100K either.

At the same time I think people in The Netherlands can clearly see that this nitrogen policy is completely manufactured by its government. No one else in the world is even talking about it.

Dutch people might still be happy on average (5th place in the world I don't think so) but their government appears to be doing everything in its power to undermine exactly that.
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August 19, 2022, 11:52:02 PM

it seems that sub 20k is confirmed by math and science now....


btw where is the Lama when we need it

not so long ago for the WO, the prospect of twelve hundred USD seemed like a pipe dream

One Bitcoin trading for the then price, of an ounce of  gold.

Then to see One Bitcoin trade at it's peak for the price of One Kilogram of gold.

Can you imagine how ecstatic I am at today's low price Bitcoin trading for $21 thousand.

Beyond my wildest dreams.

Maths and science confirms the show has barely started

Even Llamas are going long.


I know what you mean.  It's been a decade long ride for me too.

But you know what kind of innovation we are dealing with here.  And seeing prices being at and under the last cycle's peak, which was almost 5 years ago, tells me that something has changed. (We also didn't have the usual strong parabolic)

IMO we are about to enter Gandhi's "then they fight you" phase or we are already in it.  Bitcoin is now old enough to take part in the big boys' game.  And they will play with it.  Of course, I hope they'll get burned.  But as long as they have limitless Dollars as the world reserve currency, they can push the market anywhere they want.  

Not much we can do apart from wait and watch..


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Same old "smack the price down a few times to demoralize those who might push it back up then accumulate at a discount" play, methinks.
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OT: Not sure if it it is real or a joke...a tech that allows a cat to enter the house, but does not allow it to go through the "cat door" if it also carries a 'gift' (a mouse, etc).
it's called .....OnlyCat (apparently it is being crowdfunded).

https://www.studyfinds.org/onlycat-flap-martin-rosinski-transmission-dynamics/
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Same old "smack the price down a few times to demoralize those who might push it back up then accumulate at a discount" play, methinks.

Sub 20 would do the job.


But a new cycle low would create a lot of new mindrusts whose coins could be scooped up for cheap...  
I think in this scenario, we could hover around 20k for a month and then make a deep dive


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seeing some buying going on.... 
be cute and reverse, dear BTC
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the evening wall report





closing out the legacy week with another decline...bitcoin falls 10% in a sharp selloff
down 15% on the week and currently trading near $20.9kish

steady at the helm lads

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the evening wall report





closing out the legacy week with another decline...bitcoin falls 10% in a sharp selloff
down 15% on the week and currently trading near $20.9kish

steady at the helm lads

dyor

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the evening wall report





closing out the legacy week with another decline...bitcoin falls 10% in a sharp selloff
down 15% on the week and currently trading near $20.9kish

steady at the helm lads

dyor

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the evening wall report





closing out the legacy week with another decline...bitcoin falls 10% in a sharp selloff
down 15% on the week and currently trading near $20.9kish

steady at the helm lads

dyor

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You believe that Musk is the enlightened one, when it comes to bitcoin allocation strategies?

No, in wealth acquisition & management strategies. What you are talking about is but a sliver of a subset of that. And Microstrategy is underwater in their BTC investment. So what is Saylor actually good at besides being a cheerleader on social media?

If you might recall that we are in a bitcoin thread, and surely Musk has not faired too well in his communicating anything other than a gambling approach to bitcoin, along with his seemingly ongoing distractions with shitcoins (namely Doggie coin), and so your attempt to defend that twat makes you appear as a Musk worshiper.. when he hardly deserves any fanfare in bitcoin circles.

And yeah, maybe he deserves some credit for his various contributions to society outside of the bitcoin topic, but we are talking about bitcoin here.. not about worshipping some seemingly self-absorbed attention-whore narcisist. Sure, we could go as far as including shitcoins into our analysis of Musk's past comments and behaviors as they might related to bitcoin, too, and hopefully you are not investing into bitcoin (or shitcoins) in accordance with Musk proclamations or his various all over the place behaviors in contrast to taking an approach to bitcoin (and shitcoins) that would be more aligned with how Saylor acts and/or talks about matters related to bitcoin (and shitcoins too)..

More directly in response to your question, I think that Saylor has been good at quickly identifying BTC's investment thesis and articulating such investment thesis very well - including other educative attempts that he has been making including a conference that he held early on into his bitcoin journey (February 2021, I believe), and he has been good at being consistent and investing into bitcoin in a way that seems consistent with his idea of bitcoin as a long-term investment.  

I have had some criticisms of Saylor from the start in which I had been regularly asserting my belief that Saylor was overly aggressive with his allocation into bitcoin, so in that regard, he seemed to have been sending a message in regards to the benefits of hoarding bitcoin and never spending, which surely might fit his cashflow and assets scenario well, but surely some aspects of his seemingly overly aggressive approach seems to have had decent chances of leading to errors when others (especially newbies) attempt to follow the same kind of practices when their cashflow and/or access to credit may well likely not be as good as Saylor's.  

Another thing that a lot of us longer term bitcoiners have come to realize is that BTC HODLers/accumulators do not necessarily need to take real aggressive investment stances  into bitcoin in order to have potentials benefit quite greatly from bitcoin, so long as the investment timeline is longer 4-10 years or even preferably longer if the HODLer/accumulator might be a newbie investor, then there tends to be some practicalities in not wanting to be over doing the investments into bitcoin (such as overly leveraging) in the early stages of the investment into bitcoin because that may well end up rising to the level of gambling rather than seriously striving to build a long-term investment portfolio involving BTC.  

For sure, no one should be following the investment strategies of anyone else unless their circumstances were similar to that other person, so I have some difficulties blaming Saylor in the event that some newbie bitcoin investors might have ended up trying to follow similar strategies as Saylor and ending up getting burnt by overly investing in those similar kinds of ways.  In that regard, everyone is responsible for planning and creating his/her own BTC investment strategy that is tailored to his/her personal circumstances.

Also, currently even if Saylor's overall BTC portfolio is in the red (which it seems to be since his average cost per BTC is in the lower $30ks), he still seems to be in quite a decent position, even though in our Monday morning quarter-backing we may well be able to identify some areas in which he may well have played the whole investing into bitcoin matter better... yet I doubt that the mere fact that after the fact, we can point out some better ways that the matter could have been played amounts to evidence that Saylor really played his whole bitcoin approach badly...    

In other words, there is a decently wide range of reasonableness in terms of exercising discretion regarding these kinds of investment matters, and how to play them.

If you had not noticed, on a fairly regular basis Musk presents himself like a self-absorbed attention-seeking child, and yeah, maybe he is a "fun" billionaire, but he is annoying at the same time... at least in the way that he presents his emotional maturity in terms of how he has been inconsistently playing bitcoin and how he has been pumping that piece of crap coin.. aka dogggie coin. .. and we could even contrast Musk's presentation of emotional maturity to Saylor's presentation of the same, and it should be pretty clear to anyone who is an adult that Musk would not stand hardly any chance to measure up to Saylor in the arena of his presentation of emotional maturity (or lack thereof).
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China is now going beyond testing humans for covid19. Now they are testing fishes and crabs.
In Xiamen all fishermen's  will be tested once a day  while at sea and fishes they caught will also be tested for covid 19.







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While I thought Covid19 is story of past...

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China is now going beyond testing humans for covid19. Now they are testing fishes and crabs.
In Xiamen all fishermen's  will be tested once a day  while at sea and fishes they caught will also be tested for covid 19.







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While I thought Covid19 is story of past...

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They should test a penis for ungodly liquids. Cheesy Cheesy

You are laughing, but they already welcomed their foreign visitors by sticking mandatory anal probes in their asses...

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-china-anal-factbox-idUSKBN2AV0Y4

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While the subject of fast food is still freshly on our minds  Grin,  I wanted to share a YouTube channel I stumbled upon:

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCIix6MklfJFywa_36iDj8Sw/videos

Here's a link to a woman making lamb burgers from scratch, literally, even the buns. This should inspire Torque to even bigger and better things with his burgers:

https://youtu.be/gq1DFcl67x4 - it's their most watched video.


Backstory:
 I was perusing the thousands of IPTV channels I have one night and I found a program on the GEM Food channel from Iran with a middle aged woman cooking shit loads of food outdoors over wood fires while her husband does odd jobs around their farm which appeared to be in a mountainous region.  In the first one I saw, they didn't speak at all and there was footage of their pets playing in between shots of them cooking and doing odd jobs.  It was months later when I saw another one and the other day I decided to find out the name of the program.  Somehow I managed to figure out who they are and from there I found the YouTube site but I absolutely love their videos which are from various times of the year and the scenery is awesome - very relaxing to watch which helps a lot while waiting for bitcoin to meet my expectations Smiley

Here's an article about them:

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Life in village. Gusar residents share delicious food recipes


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There's something about cooking on the open fire and eating far away from city hustle buzzle.

Fresh air, unspoiled nature make some food recipes so delicious and nutritious.

Called "Northern Gates" due to its geographical location, Gusar will certainly amaze you with its mouthwatering dishes.

The region is largely populated by Lezgis, a Northeast Caucasian ethnic group, who cook some of the most delicious dishes.

A trip to Hil village offers you a great chance to meet friendly locals and try some of the best food recipes.

The village's residents Aziza Ramikhanova and her son Amiraslan have attracted the attention of millions of viewers on social networks. Their cozy and comforting food recipes has left no one indifferent.

Amiraslan Ramikhanov is a professional chef who had been working in one of the restaurants in Baku.

Returning to his native village due to pandemic, Amiraslan did not stay away from his favorite profession.

Together with his mother, he continued to delight food lovers with various food recipes vie his Youtube channel.

Aziza Ramikhanova is also an incredibly talented cook. Her mouthwatering recipes are extremely popular at all weddings in Hil village.

The Ramikhanovs usually film their culinary videos on their farmland near their village. A charming house was built on the area to make filming process even more exciting.

The family, who is mainly involved in vegetable growing, makes two cooking videos a week. The Ramikhanovs prefer cooking from fresh veggies which grow in their yard. The videos are shot and edited by Amiraslan Ramikhanov himself.

Speaking about Gusar it is impossible not to touch upon its historical monuments that extended infinitely in all directions.

The historical monuments are protected in the region. The remains of the fortress walls of the village of Anigof of the 13th century, the mausoleum of Sheikh Juneyd near Hazra village, ancient mosques in villages of Hil, Anig, Balagusar, Yasab, Old Khudat, Gunduzqala are such kind of monuments.

Laza village is boasting stunning landscapes so varied and dramatic that every day is an unforgettable there.

The most ancient landmark of the village is the historical mosque, located in the center of the settlement. The mosque is more than 300 years old.

Surrounded by mountains, Laza is well known for its majestic waterfalls. Competitions on climbing are held at the frozen waterfalls in winter here.

Being a favorite tourist spot, Gusar offers its visitors a wonderful recreation experience at Shahdag Mountain Resort.

The Complex is Azerbaijan’s first ski resort and it differs from similar facilities in the world for its uniqueness and diversity. Year by year the number of tourists discovering this beautiful resort increases.

The Shahdag Complex stands 2,500 meters above sea level and serves as an outstanding getaway with its rich nature, fresh air, and a good climate.


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