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From my experience, there will be more panic selling from the FUD incoming. Of course it's all market manipulation, but knowing that fact means that buying now is a good chance for a decent PnL. I think we will bounce back, as we always do after FUD.

I am planning on buying the dip at 24k Cheesy


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I've been waiting for Binance to be targeted as soon as the FTX situation blew up and regulators realized that Binance did the exact same thing as FTX,

That's not true, and it is even a bunch of bullshit.

You should know better than that OgNasty.

FTX is largely used as an excuse to go after Binance - with a bunch play off of xenophobic fears, and so if you really consider the matter, you may well wonder how purposeful was the blowing up of FTX in order to create or exacerbate excuses to build political will power and misinformation in order to attack various aspects of bitcoin.

For sure Binance trades shitcoins and likely does some of the same things (and similar things as FTX), yet it likely helps to better understand what is going on if you do not try to overly simplify and act as if they are doing "exactly the same thing" when that is just bullshit and not even close to true.

It's a good excuse though, isn't it?

It gives pretty decent regulatory cover, doesn't it?

What the fuck do you think is going to happen with all of these various likely desperate attacks (against crypto and then bitcoin) coming from within the USA?.. more and more off-shoring of bitcoin.. and yeah, I am not even really complaining about the attacks happening, but I am complaining with regards to your oversimplification and bucketing FTX and Binance in the same bucket. and yeah, you are not the ONLY one employing such lame and loose use of the facts and/or logic to reach lame and superficial conclusions.

but they were able to survive a cycle doing so and became insanely wealthy as a result. 

Yeah.. keep building on it.

Maybe you should try to grapple with actual facts rather than making shit up?

Looks like now that regulators have caught on, they are going to be looking to take a piece of flesh from CZ. 

Of course, regulators want someone to go after.... a bit of a distraction, no?

You seem to be buying it.  Hook, line and sinker.

We need more regulation, right?

We need CZ to get thrown in jail for life, right?

Examples need to be made, and SBF is not enough..

Probably SBF will go free and CZ will get put in jail.  That would be a really great (and just) outcome right?  It was really CZ who caused SBF to defraud millions of people and to engage in his bullshit fake exchange in which he was not even holding any bitcoins that he claimed to have 80k bitcoin, and there was only 1 or 2 bitcoin in the whole inventory of both FTX and Alameda combined.  Don't get me wrong.  I am sure that several of the employees, founders and leaders of FTX and Alameda had some bitcoin (and probably still have a decent number of bitcoin).

This is in no way a positive development for Bitcoin in the short term,

So ?  We are going down from here?   Just like we did in August 2013 when Silk Road got shut down?  And, also just like we did in late 2016 when the chinese cracked down on people holding bitcoin in their highly liquid exchanges?  Or do you have another great comparison regarding why bitcoin is going down in the short term?  I am sure you will be able to come up with something convincing, and hopefully (for your own sake) you don't sell too many of your cornz and get ur lil selfie reckt.. and better yet, hopefully not too many newbies are listening to your lame proclamations regarding the short-term doomedness of my lil precious.

and we're already seeing the start of the pain, but long term I think if we want to see Bitcoin hit the high 6 figures, it is absolutely necessary to weed out the bad actors in the space, and Binance is just FTX with a first mover advantage.

Pretty lame  repetition of nonsense.. but whatever, you do you.

You have a right to whatever dumb and inadequate comparison that you like, and I have a right to call your assessment dumb and to pray that NOT too many folks buy into such nonsense... for their own good.. even though sure there are no guarantees that you might end up being directionally correct, and in that regard, we always have to be prepared financially and psychologically for BTC prices to go in directions that are beyond our expectations for lower and longer than we expected them to go there.. whether we are referring to up or down.

So much for the weekend dip Sad


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HODLers who hold together, cry together.

Sucks to be a HODLer...  Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry.

Hot take:
We live in a strange dystopia where one of the biggest/most profitable Tech companies in the world announces their first new product in 9 years:

A VR headset that 99.9999% of society doesn't want, never asked for and will never buy.

Talk about tone deaf.

I'm starting the believe that the more RnD money you lose as a Tech company, the more profitable you actually become.

Bizarro World.
There's more of it.
We live in a world where people who don't understand technology make laws regarding it.
In a world where boomers who had nothing to do with the Internet all their lives try to regulate it.
In a world where people still think they can post something online and then change or delete it and nobody will notice.
In a world where people who try to make us limit our CO2 emissions and force us to drive electric cars fly to conferences in private jets, are driven around in V12 limos and spend holidays on their yachts powered by diesel engines...

I'm in a rant mood Cheesy
Beta boy Gensler has no power here.
This dip will be shaken off in a few days. We’ll be at over $30,000 by the end of the month.

(Not financial advice).
I don't like Gary but he said it many times that every coin apart from bitcoin is a security and exchange tokens like BNB are 100% securities, you can't deny it, so they can't touch bitcoin but want to touch CZ.
I couldn't care less about CZ.

I agree with almost everything that you said in your part 1 (response above) darkangel11, but you went into such looney-toon crazy-land in part 2, that I almost vomited (figuratively, not literally)...

 Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy Cheesy
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June 05, 2023, 11:21:24 PM

SEC sues Binance and CEO Changpeng Zhao for ‘mishandling billions of dollars’

When will the SEC get round to suing the Federal Reserve and Jamie Demon for doing that exact thing but for far longer?

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I've been waiting for Binance to be targeted as soon as the FTX situation blew up and regulators realized that Binance did the exact same thing as FTX, but they were able to survive a cycle doing so and became insanely wealthy as a result.  Looks like now that regulators have caught on, they are going to be looking to take a piece of flesh from CZ.  This is in no way a positive development for Bitcoin in the short term, and we're already seeing the start of the pain, but long term I think if we want to see Bitcoin hit the high 6 figures, it is absolutely necessary to weed out the bad actors in the space, and Binance is just FTX with a first mover advantage.
Who is a good actor among exchanges?
Some say that they are, but they got NO volume, like Gemini.
Congress needs to pass some laws pronto or, else, american exchanges can be shut down and US would lose whatever they did not lose yet (in this space).
Every exchange is a good actor waiting to become a bad actor. No matter how trustworthy, the problem lies with the fact that you still have to trust them. This goes against what Bitcoin stands for.
Lets stop pretending and all the fake surprise. No matter what Bitcoin stands for, the same cunts who run shit from the political and financial sector are still the same cunts who run shit in the so called "crypto"/ Bitcoin sector.

Wow!!  You sound lost MERlT.

Do you know the difference between bitcoin and crypto?

Let's just lump everything together, right?

Everyone has equal motives, right?

Until FIAT has no more value than shit stuck to the bottom of your shoe, the same BS Cycle of Crypto, Defi, Shitherum fanboys, and scams will continue  

If the world is really like you proclaim it to be, bitcoin does not have a chance.

Good thing that the world is not like you proclaim it to be MERIT, and bitcoin is already winning...

Yeah.. change takes a long time, but the world is not a lost cause.. and then all of a sudden utopia comes.

We live in a world in which there are parallel systems, and if you cannot recognize the difference and/or you are not able to attempt to find ways to straddle both, then you are likely going to be separated from your coins  one way or another.

Sucks to be uie-pooie..


but perhaps, you can still be saved?

perhaps? perhaps?


Society is controlled by cunts, promoted by their corrupt propaganda media and the rest of the bottom feeders.

Maybe you are mostly right, but not completely right.

If the world was controlled by cunts, we would not have bitcoin... and bitcoin would not have reached the level of success that it already has.  Do you think that the cunts want bitcoin or want bitcoin to already be where it is at right now?

hint hint.. the answer is no.

It would be good if you would be able to see the value of bitcoin as a rescue ship that is currently available for anyone to get onto, even if it could take a while for all of this to play out, maybe even 100 or 200 years, so don't confuse slow progress with no progress.

Fuck! Binance and FTX, Cryptsy, MtGox, and the rest of the other centralised wankers.

Careful not to throw out the baby with the bath water.  There are differences between each of those situations.

It would likely be for your own good not to lump them all together and to act as if they were all the same or to act as if we can all of a sudden transition to utopia or into a decentralized exchange, or whatever it might be that you are suggesting to be the better path forward.

Seems to me better to accept aspects of "what is" rather than getting too caught up into "ought to be" baloney wishful-thinking about how you wish the world would be... blah blah blah..

In other words, bitcoin was made for this, so keep your eyes on the prize rather than getting distracted into nonsense.

From my experience, there will be more panic selling from the FUD incoming. Of course it's all market manipulation, but knowing that fact means that buying now is a good chance for a decent PnL. I think we will bounce back, as we always do after FUD.

I am planning on buying the dip at 24k Cheesy


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Yeah.. you could be right..

At the same time, I am not really worried that you (goldkingcoiner) are not sufficiently/adequately prepared for UP (even while you are seemingly preparing for the possibility of down)...

Some of us have been in this space long enough that it is relatively clear that we have figured out a variety of ways to prepare for both up and down at the same time, no matter how cognitively dissonant that might sound to the gamblers who like to bet bigger than they should (such as 80x.... just using that as a reference).

Since you likely already realize that the lillie fiend market does not always go down on "bad news" merely because a lot of folks (even if the overwhelming majority) are speculating that it will go down.
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June 05, 2023, 11:28:43 PM

SEC sues Binance and CEO Changpeng Zhao for ‘mishandling billions of dollars’

When will the SEC get round to suing the Federal Reserve and Jamie Demon for doing that exact thing but for far longer?

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What if SEC sue Brazzers? or PH or Onlyfans?, that could be worst for you bitcoinbunny than SEC sueing Binance?

Only for financial advice.
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SEC sues Binance and CEO Changpeng Zhao for ‘mishandling billions of dollars’

When will the SEC get round to suing the Federal Reserve and Jamie Demon for doing that exact thing but for far longer?

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they are not mishandling dollars. congress and the prez are doing that.

22 bad budgets in  a row. All falls on

1)tax too low laws  for
2)spending too high laws.




And congress and the prez write those laws

BTW be ready for +0.25%  in 9 days time.
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Yeah.. you could be right..

At the same time, I am not really worried that you (goldkingcoiner) are not sufficiently/adequately prepared for UP (even while you are seemingly preparing for the possibility of down)...

Some of us have been in this space long enough that it is relatively clear that we have figured out a variety of ways to prepare for both up and down at the same time, no matter how cognitively dissonant that might sound to the gamblers who like to bet bigger than they should (such as 80x.... just using that as a reference).

Since you likely already realize that the lillie fiend market does not always go down on "bad news" merely because a lot of folks (even if the overwhelming majority) are speculating that it will go down.

Good point.
But, I am gambling virtual profits from buying later instead of now. Sure, Bitcoin could go up. I would lose out on a bit of coin. But past history has show that during corrections, FUD has an amplifying effect on the price dip. This is just short term speculation. Worst case scenario, price goes up instead of going down. I stop limit at 1/3rd of the Binance FUD candle. Still not bad. Either way I make more coins from the FUD because the Bitcoin is undervalued by pure speculation (how long does that last?). Thats how I see it, at least...

Who would ever go 80x, I wonder? Roll Eyes



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Bitcoin's coming pump should rest in peace for now, the Fed doesn't want it to get the pump and that's why the propaganda is happening with Binance. The price of BTC can drop further down and if the Binance gets hanged like other exchanges in the past then the fate of the crypto-currency will only be restored during the halving event.

I'm pretty much confident that Binance is the only exchange that could help Bitcoin to pump way before 2024's halving event, and if it gets targeted like this every once in a while then I'm pretty sure that digital currency will have to struggle to gain value. Although, Bitcoin isn't dependent on Binance or any other exchange, but surely to keep up pumping and dumping it needs a medium for that.

I'm sure that Binance will win the case this time but it had to struggle a lot in order to own the victory in the game. If Sec and other government bodies continue doing this to Binance then I'm sure that the exchange will take an exist from the U.S. The dream of regulators will be a reality if that happens.
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Hot take:

We live in a strange dystopia where one of the biggest/most profitable Tech companies in the world announces their first new product in 9 years:

A VR headset that 99.9999% of society doesn't want, never asked for and will never buy.

Talk about tone deaf.

I'm starting the believe that the more RnD money you lose as a Tech company, the more profitable you actually become.

Bizarro World.

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