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Oh, the fact that bitcoin has many advantages over fiat money is clear even with a fairly superficial study of the issue. An independent and not controlled monetary system that cannot be canceled or frozen at the snap of someone's fingers is a much more reliable safety of savings than much else.

are you sure that Bitcoin is better than regular money? issue is that the value of Bitcoin can change a lot, which makes it risky for saving money. And Bitcoin isn't controlled by any government, which means it's harder to regulate and protect against illegal activities. there are also technical risks with Bitcoin's technology, like the possibility of security problems or difficulties in how it operates.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Lips sealed

Yes, I am sure. I understand the risks you are talking about. Every coin has two sides. However, the risks of fiat money are actually much higher. If they are more convenient to pay for everyday needs right now, this does not mean that this happens always and will always be so.

Illicit activity in fiat currencies is much higher than in bitcoin. There have been many studies confirming this. The Bitcoin blockchain is transparent to everyone, including law enforcement, unlike the banking system.
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Oh, the fact that bitcoin has many advantages over fiat money is clear even with a fairly superficial study of the issue. An independent and not controlled monetary system that cannot be canceled or frozen at the snap of someone's fingers is a much more reliable safety of savings than much else.

are you sure that Bitcoin is better than regular money? issue is that the value of Bitcoin can change a lot, which makes it risky for saving money. And Bitcoin isn't controlled by any government, which means it's harder to regulate and protect against illegal activities. there are also technical risks with Bitcoin's technology, like the possibility of security problems or difficulties in how it operates.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Lips sealed

Yes, I am sure. I understand the risks you are talking about. Every coin has two sides. However, the risks of fiat money are actually much higher. If they are more convenient to pay for everyday needs right now, this does not mean that this happens always and will always be so.

Illicit activity in fiat currencies is much higher than in bitcoin. There have been many studies confirming this. The Bitcoin blockchain is transparent to everyone, including law enforcement, unlike the banking system.

I appreciate your perspective, but I still have concerns about the overall superiority of Bitcoin over regular money. While I understand that there are risks associated with fiat money, such as inflation or the potential for government control, I believe that Bitcoin carries its own set of risks.

Ultimately, both Bitcoin and regular money have their pros and cons. It's important to carefully evaluate the risks and benefits associated with each and make informed decisions based on individual circumstances and goals.
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Why was his Twitter acct suspended?
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The next state orchestrated “Plandemic” is going to be a “Crypto Contagion”.
• There is going to be financial turmoil
• They will wrongly blame #Bitcoin   
• They will block on/off ramps
• They will prosecute crypto companies
• They will threaten public advocacy
• They will hunt you down for KYC/AML
• They will force CBDCs on you
• They will rationalize universal income
• They will inevitably print trillions
• Bitcoin will emerge as digital gold

If you can HODL through this you WIN

https://twitter.com/TheBTCTherapist/status/1660290161224171520?t=xoithVAZX7b2acAvO50UZA&s=19
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The next state orchestrated “Plandemic” is going to be a “Crypto Contagion”.
• There is going to be financial turmoil


Recession, inflation and rate increase , bank will cry. Invest in bitcoin before bull.



• They will wrongly blame #Bitcoin   


They already blaming you #bitcoin for financial freedom

• They will block on/off ramps


They try to close you up. Bitcoin win

• They will prosecute crypto companies


They are doing that with more to shutdown

• They will threaten public advocacy


Yes enemies of bitcoin

• They will hunt you down for KYC/AML


Some people understand this and don't like centralized exchange

• They will force CBDCs on you


They are already doing that but bitcoin is the digital gold

• They will rationalize universal income


They increase unemployment

• They will inevitably print trillions


They do that with excuse to stabilise economy but inflation is the result.

• Bitcoin will emerge as digital gold


Are you saying bitcoin will finally become unifying digital currency? Grin
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The next state orchestrated “Plandemic” is going to be a “Crypto Contagion”.
• There is going to be financial turmoil


Recession, inflation and rate increase , bank will cry. Invest in bitcoin before bull.



Bank will cry?, man bank never gonna cry, they are always one step ahead, or they receive money from the govement, change the law, change their names etc.

Well yes they are gonna cry to the press but backdoor they know how it works because they are the masters, not a peasant.
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The next state orchestrated “Plandemic” is going to be a “Crypto Contagion”.
• There is going to be financial turmoil


Recession, inflation and rate increase , bank will cry. Invest in bitcoin before bull.



Bank will cry?, man bank never gonna cry, they are always one step ahead, or they receive money from the govement, change the law, change their names etc.

Well yes they are gonna cry to the press but backdoor they know how it works because they are the masters, not a peasant.

This is why it's so important to be your own bank.

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Luke's Twitter account may be dead, but he's very much alive and working on neat Bitcoin stuff. Free @lukedashjr, @elonmusk!
https://twitter.com/lopp/status/1659994294315372544

I'm OOTL.

Why was his Twitter acct suspended?

It might have something to do with him suggesting filtering out ordinal transactions from blocks.

https://beincrypto.com/learn/brc-20-token/

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Luke Dashjr, a Bitcoin core developer since 2011, believes that Ordinals and BRC-20 tokens are spam, are need to be filtered out asap.




https://coingeek.com/btc-response-to-ordinals-will-be-yet-another-demonstration-of-centralized-power/

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Luke Dashjr tried another track on Twitter (Dashjr’s Twitter has since been suspended):

His account was previously suspended because of his vaccine tweets, then reinstated.

https://gist.github.com/nopara73/f194fd1d662b9094e82c5d4e038997e3

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Luke Dashjr, a prolific Bitcoin Core developer, has been sent to Twitter jail: he received a permanent suspension for proclaiming he'll respond with appropriate force if anyone tries to force vaccination on him or his family. To avoid confusion it's important to clarify he does not have an anti-vaccine stance, rather he took a wait for more data approach instead.

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Thanks everyone. Luke Dashjr can finally tweet: https://twitter.com/LukeDashjr/status/1456997208553705483

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Seems like it was probably for suggesting filtering out ordinal transactions from blocks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoincashSV/comments/13d07ey/luke_dash_jr_banned_from_twitter_for_threatening/

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Luke Dash Jr. banned from Twitter for threatening to remove BRC-20 token capabilities

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Observing empty block!

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How dare you!

It looks to be the usual problem: the empty block came too early (maybe seconds) after another block. You can see both with "10 minutes".
(But yeah, you may already know all this.)

15 seconds apart.

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/blocks/btc?page=1



those times can be off by 20 seconds or more.  Ie block could be 35 seconds not 15. But empty blocks have happened for years nothing new here. As rewards half in 2024 it will be a bigger deal

by the time we are at 2032 we will have rewards of only 0.78125 btc if fees are running at 0.78 at this time an empty block will be an issue. I wonder if anything will be done by then.

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Bitcoins might cost millions of dollars each by then. An empty block could cost them millions.


Just so there is no misunderstanding. An 'empty' block still contains the block subsidy. Just no transactions and therefore no TX fees.
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It looks to be the usual problem: the empty block came too early (maybe seconds) after another block. You can see both with "10 minutes".
(But yeah, you may already know all this.)

15 seconds apart.

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/blocks/btc?page=1



those times can be off by 20 seconds or more.  Ie block could be 35 seconds not 15. But empty blocks have happened for years nothing new here. As rewards half in 2024 it will be a bigger deal

by the time we are at 2032 we will have rewards of only 0.78125 btc if fees are running at 0.78 at this time an empty block will be an issue. I wonder if anything will be done by then.

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Bitcoins might cost millions of dollars each by then. An empty block could cost them millions.


Just so there is no misunderstanding. An 'empty' block still contains the block subsidy. Just no transactions and therefore no TX fees.

Lol, yes, but there are a few blocks in the blockchain without the block subsidy (there never will be 21 millions Bitcoin!). So in theory and empty block can still be mined.
Just being extremely picky here.
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