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May 21, 2023, 02:55:12 PM

The next state orchestrated “Plandemic” is going to be a “Crypto Contagion”.
• There is going to be financial turmoil
• They will wrongly blame #Bitcoin   
• They will block on/off ramps
• They will prosecute crypto companies
• They will threaten public advocacy
• They will hunt you down for KYC/AML
• They will force CBDCs on you
• They will rationalize universal income
• They will inevitably print trillions
• Bitcoin will emerge as digital gold

If you can HODL through this you WIN

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The next state orchestrated “Plandemic” is going to be a “Crypto Contagion”.
• There is going to be financial turmoil


Recession, inflation and rate increase , bank will cry. Invest in bitcoin before bull.



• They will wrongly blame #Bitcoin   


They already blaming you #bitcoin for financial freedom

• They will block on/off ramps


They try to close you up. Bitcoin win

• They will prosecute crypto companies


They are doing that with more to shutdown

• They will threaten public advocacy


Yes enemies of bitcoin

• They will hunt you down for KYC/AML


Some people understand this and don't like centralized exchange

• They will force CBDCs on you


They are already doing that but bitcoin is the digital gold

• They will rationalize universal income


They increase unemployment

• They will inevitably print trillions


They do that with excuse to stabilise economy but inflation is the result.

• Bitcoin will emerge as digital gold


Are you saying bitcoin will finally become unifying digital currency? Grin
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The next state orchestrated “Plandemic” is going to be a “Crypto Contagion”.
• There is going to be financial turmoil


Recession, inflation and rate increase , bank will cry. Invest in bitcoin before bull.



Bank will cry?, man bank never gonna cry, they are always one step ahead, or they receive money from the govement, change the law, change their names etc.

Well yes they are gonna cry to the press but backdoor they know how it works because they are the masters, not a peasant.
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The next state orchestrated “Plandemic” is going to be a “Crypto Contagion”.
• There is going to be financial turmoil


Recession, inflation and rate increase , bank will cry. Invest in bitcoin before bull.



Bank will cry?, man bank never gonna cry, they are always one step ahead, or they receive money from the govement, change the law, change their names etc.

Well yes they are gonna cry to the press but backdoor they know how it works because they are the masters, not a peasant.

This is why it's so important to be your own bank.

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Luke's Twitter account may be dead, but he's very much alive and working on neat Bitcoin stuff. Free @lukedashjr, @elonmusk!
https://twitter.com/lopp/status/1659994294315372544

I'm OOTL.

Why was his Twitter acct suspended?

It might have something to do with him suggesting filtering out ordinal transactions from blocks.

https://beincrypto.com/learn/brc-20-token/

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Luke Dashjr, a Bitcoin core developer since 2011, believes that Ordinals and BRC-20 tokens are spam, are need to be filtered out asap.




https://coingeek.com/btc-response-to-ordinals-will-be-yet-another-demonstration-of-centralized-power/

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Luke Dashjr tried another track on Twitter (Dashjr’s Twitter has since been suspended):

His account was previously suspended because of his vaccine tweets, then reinstated.

https://gist.github.com/nopara73/f194fd1d662b9094e82c5d4e038997e3

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Luke Dashjr, a prolific Bitcoin Core developer, has been sent to Twitter jail: he received a permanent suspension for proclaiming he'll respond with appropriate force if anyone tries to force vaccination on him or his family. To avoid confusion it's important to clarify he does not have an anti-vaccine stance, rather he took a wait for more data approach instead.

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Thanks everyone. Luke Dashjr can finally tweet: https://twitter.com/LukeDashjr/status/1456997208553705483

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Seems like it was probably for suggesting filtering out ordinal transactions from blocks.

https://www.reddit.com/r/bitcoincashSV/comments/13d07ey/luke_dash_jr_banned_from_twitter_for_threatening/

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Observing empty block!

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How dare you!

It looks to be the usual problem: the empty block came too early (maybe seconds) after another block. You can see both with "10 minutes".
(But yeah, you may already know all this.)

15 seconds apart.

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/blocks/btc?page=1



those times can be off by 20 seconds or more.  Ie block could be 35 seconds not 15. But empty blocks have happened for years nothing new here. As rewards half in 2024 it will be a bigger deal

by the time we are at 2032 we will have rewards of only 0.78125 btc if fees are running at 0.78 at this time an empty block will be an issue. I wonder if anything will be done by then.

...


Bitcoins might cost millions of dollars each by then. An empty block could cost them millions.


Just so there is no misunderstanding. An 'empty' block still contains the block subsidy. Just no transactions and therefore no TX fees.
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Observing empty block!

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How dare you!

It looks to be the usual problem: the empty block came too early (maybe seconds) after another block. You can see both with "10 minutes".
(But yeah, you may already know all this.)

15 seconds apart.

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/blocks/btc?page=1



those times can be off by 20 seconds or more.  Ie block could be 35 seconds not 15. But empty blocks have happened for years nothing new here. As rewards half in 2024 it will be a bigger deal

by the time we are at 2032 we will have rewards of only 0.78125 btc if fees are running at 0.78 at this time an empty block will be an issue. I wonder if anything will be done by then.

...


Bitcoins might cost millions of dollars each by then. An empty block could cost them millions.


Just so there is no misunderstanding. An 'empty' block still contains the block subsidy. Just no transactions and therefore no TX fees.

Lol, yes, but there are a few blocks in the blockchain without the block subsidy (there never will be 21 millions Bitcoin!). So in theory and empty block can still be mined.
Just being extremely picky here.
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1000$ for that Miami conference wow.

Why not 1000 sats ?
It costs money to put on a conference... and especially such a large conference.

Sure, maybe they did not strike a good balance this year in regards to price versus expected attendance levels.. and so it likely is not easy to determine those kinds of matters, when the likely attendance levels may well vary quite a bit this year as compared with last year...

I have not seen the latest numbers, but I thought that they might have been anticipated quite a few less than half of the number of participants as compared to last year's 30k-ish levels, even if initially, they were likely hoping to reach similar levels as last year.. but even those very large numbers (like last year) become unwieldy too.. so increases in prices would surely cause the number of attendants to go down, one would think.

It costs money yes, and you have corporate stands rented to companies, sponsors, etc.

I guess the goal isn't Bitcoin evangelization, but only business people talking to business people.

Why so jaded about the matter aesma?

Surely, they could make a choice to offer entrance for free or near free, but wouldn't that have potential issues too?

I think that I already responded to this whole attempt at balancing, and surely we could have differing opinions in regards to a potential proper balance, and your suggestion of 1000 sats is surely not even close to realistic.. in terms of an attempt at balancing an including how they might have had too many attendees last year.. which has its own unwielding attributes, and sure maybe this year a way lower price might have had been better, and I surely don't claim to even closely know enough regarding that answer except for a decently strong sense that 1,000 sats is not even close to a realistic proposaL, even though I understand your overall point (exaggerated as it may well be.. if I consider that you are not actually seriously proposing that 1,000 sats would actually be reasonable or a good idea in terms of attempts at rationing attendance.. to the extent that you seem to believe rationing attendance is not an issue that needs to be considered.. in udder words, how do you keep out the riff raff? hahahahhaahaha).
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Observing empty block!

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How dare you!

It looks to be the usual problem: the empty block came too early (maybe seconds) after another block. You can see both with "10 minutes".
(But yeah, you may already know all this.)

15 seconds apart.

https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/blocks/btc?page=1



those times can be off by 20 seconds or more.  Ie block could be 35 seconds not 15. But empty blocks have happened for years nothing new here. As rewards half in 2024 it will be a bigger deal

by the time we are at 2032 we will have rewards of only 0.78125 btc if fees are running at 0.78 at this time an empty block will be an issue. I wonder if anything will be done by then.

...


Bitcoins might cost millions of dollars each by then. An empty block could cost them millions.


Just so there is no misunderstanding. An 'empty' block still contains the block subsidy. Just no transactions and therefore no TX fees.

Lol, yes, but there are a few blocks in the blockchain without the block subsidy (there never will be 21 millions Bitcoin!). So in theory and empty block can still be mined.
Just being extremely picky here.


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Tether is About to Start Buying Up Bitcoin With Up to 15% of Its Net Profits

Tether, the creator of USDT, is starting to purchase Bitcoin with a whopping 15% of its net realized operating profits starting this month.
https://twitter.com/Tether_to/status/1658805845340180480?s=20
Tether has long been an important supporter of Bitcoin though the effect was mostly indirect. USDT is the largest USD stablecoin by market capitalization and traders often use it to trade…
Riddle me this, if they were always such great supporters then why only now are they putting such a measly amount of profits in?

Another tether hater.. .  talkin bout you, Willis.. i mean Hueristic....


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Does bitcoin touch upon those things or not?  That's up to you to figure out and to figure out how much you believe that it might be worthy of your time, energies and value to be figuring out more about bitcoin or if you might believe that your time, energies and value might be directed towards some other endeavor(s) that you believe to be more important.. hopefully for your own sake (and well being) you do not choose some dumbass shitcoin to direct your energies.. hahahaha

Bitcoin is gradually building relationships with different parts of society. We see that some American politicians participating in the presidential campaign that has begun are actively using bitcoin not only as a way to receive donations, but also as one of the key arguments of the campaign. At the same time, private initiatives in El Salvador, with the development of bitcoin clusters, are also developing the economy and ecology of their small towns. It is difficult to say where the boundaries of this process are. But of course, it is interesting to continue to explore the possibilities and prospects.

Fair enough.. and if you are comparing a fucked up money to a good money, are you going to make some choices in regards to which one you are going to spend first and which one you might save up?

Oh, the fact that bitcoin has many advantages over fiat money is clear even with a fairly superficial study of the issue. An independent and not controlled monetary system that cannot be canceled or frozen at the snap of someone's fingers is a much more reliable safety of savings than much else.

So your response shows that you can appreciate the value of bitcoin, and so therefore, you merely have to figure out your own personal allocation, and perhaps how you might build towards reaching and/or maintaining your personal allocation.. while likely if you are paying attention, then you will continue to attempt to learn along the way and decide the extent to which you might have to tweak various aspects of your BTC accumulation and/or maintenance if you believe that there might be significant and/or meaningful changes in the information that might justify a need for you to believe that you need to adjust your approach.

Oh, the fact that bitcoin has many advantages over fiat money is clear even with a fairly superficial study of the issue. An independent and not controlled monetary system that cannot be canceled or frozen at the snap of someone's fingers is a much more reliable safety of savings than much else.
are you sure that Bitcoin is better than regular money? issue is that the value of Bitcoin can change a lot, which makes it risky for saving money. And Bitcoin isn't controlled by any government, which means it's harder to regulate and protect against illegal activities. there are also technical risks with Bitcoin's technology, like the possibility of security problems or difficulties in how it operates.  Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Lips sealed

Oh gosh, another nocoiner (or low coiner) know it all.

In udder words, uie pooie (referring to you yslyv) seem to be pointing out considerations regarding how much to allocate to bitcoin rather than whether to have any allocation to bitcoin.

If you believe that these are all or nothing kinds of propositions that bitcoiners are weighing, then you likely are having some difficulties in understanding various aspects in which bitcoin may well be part of a potentially peaceful wealth transferring mechanism that is greater than any previous one that has been seen to date.

Do you happen to know what is dee cornz, or are you so in love with the dollar that you cannot recognize that it has "issues" (best case characterization).

Accordingly if you have not gotten off of zero in terms of dee cornz (corn exposure), then you may well find your lil selfie chasing the train because you are too much blinded by your love of the currently widely-accepted melting icecube that continues to still value from an overwhelming number of normies without their realizing that dee cornz could well end up being part of their lifeboat that could end up saving them.. if they were to see it for what it is, and they do not have to even allocate their whole life (finances, time and/or psychology) to it in order to potentially be advantaged by its ability to contribute towards saving them or to other no coiner and low coiner normies out there in the world... which constitute an overwhelming majority of the world's population who have not yet figured out... these kinds of matters of assessing the value of my lil precious.... and perhaps even more than 99% of the world's population seem to have not gotten the my lil precious memo, so it's still early days when it comes to corn accumulation if you might want to pick up some cornz in case it catches on.

#justsaying.

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I appreciate your perspective, but I still have concerns about the overall superiority of Bitcoin over regular money. While I understand that there are risks associated with fiat money, such as inflation or the potential for government control, I believe that Bitcoin carries its own set of risks.

Ultimately, both Bitcoin and regular money have their pros and cons. It's important to carefully evaluate the risks and benefits associated with each and make informed decisions based on individual circumstances and goals.

For sure you convincingly appear to be lost yslyv... .Can "we" help you to find ur lil selfie?

You might need to spend a wee bit of time studying what is dee cornz.

And if you cannot figure it out, then maybe you might want to ask for some help.

At least you have found this forum (and this thread), so you are in a good place to start to learn about what is dee cornz.. and maybe you might want to ask some questions to some of the bitcoiners (or the longer term members here) who might be willing to help you out if you get off of your dumb ass high horse that is making vague-ass proclamations that there are plusses and minuses to each.. which largely just shows that you are lost rather than your seemingly wanting to appear as if you might objectively know something valuable that relates to the topic of this thread.
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