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June 05, 2023, 06:43:35 PM
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Hot take:

We live in a strange dystopia where one of the biggest/most profitable Tech companies in the world announces their first new product in 9 years:

A VR headset that 99.9999% of society doesn't want, never asked for and will never buy.

Talk about tone deaf.

I'm starting the believe that the more RnD money you lose as a Tech company, the more profitable you actually become.

Bizarro World.
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June 05, 2023, 06:47:09 PM
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I've been waiting for Binance to be targeted as soon as the FTX situation blew up and regulators realized that Binance did the exact same thing as FTX, but they were able to survive a cycle doing so and became insanely wealthy as a result.  Looks like now that regulators have caught on, they are going to be looking to take a piece of flesh from CZ.  This is in no way a positive development for Bitcoin in the short term, and we're already seeing the start of the pain, but long term I think if we want to see Bitcoin hit the high 6 figures, it is absolutely necessary to weed out the bad actors in the space, and Binance is just FTX with a first mover advantage.

Who is a good actor among exchanges?
Some say that they are, but they got NO volume, like Gemini.
Congress needs to pass some laws pronto or, else, american exchanges can be shut down and US would lose whatever they did not lose yet (in this space).

Every exchange is a good actor waiting to become a bad actor. No matter how trustworthy, the problem lies with the fact that you still have to trust them. This goes against what Bitcoin stands for.
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Hot take:

We live in a strange dystopia where one of the biggest/most profitable Tech companies in the world announces their first new product in 9 years:

A VR headset that 99.9999% of society doesn't want, never asked for and will never buy.

Talk about tone deaf.

I'm starting the believe that the more RnD money you lose as a Tech company, the more profitable you actually become.

Bizarro World.

There's more of it.
We live in a world where people who don't understand technology make laws regarding it.
In a world where boomers who had nothing to do with the Internet all their lives try to regulate it.
In a world where people still think they can post something online and then change or delete it and nobody will notice.
In a world where people who try to make us limit our CO2 emissions and force us to drive electric cars fly to conferences in private jets, are driven around in V12 limos and spend holidays on their yachts powered by diesel engines...

I'm in a rant mood Cheesy

Beta boy Gensler has no power here.

This dip will be shaken off in a few days. We’ll be at over $30,000 by the end of the month.

(Not financial advice).

I don't like Gary but he said it many times that every coin apart from bitcoin is a security and exchange tokens like BNB are 100% securities, you can't deny it, so they can't touch bitcoin but want to touch CZ.
I couldn't care less about CZ.
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I've been waiting for Binance to be targeted as soon as the FTX situation blew up and regulators realized that Binance did the exact same thing as FTX, but they were able to survive a cycle doing so and became insanely wealthy as a result.  Looks like now that regulators have caught on, they are going to be looking to take a piece of flesh from CZ.  This is in no way a positive development for Bitcoin in the short term, and we're already seeing the start of the pain, but long term I think if we want to see Bitcoin hit the high 6 figures, it is absolutely necessary to weed out the bad actors in the space, and Binance is just FTX with a first mover advantage.

Who is a good actor among exchanges?
Some say that they are, but they got NO volume, like Gemini.
Congress needs to pass some laws pronto or, else, american exchanges can be shut down and US would lose whatever they did not lose yet (in this space).

Every exchange is a good actor waiting to become a bad actor. No matter how trustworthy, the problem lies with the fact that you still have to trust them. This goes against what Bitcoin stands for.


Lets stop pretending and all the fake surprise. No matter what Bitcoin stands for, the same cunts who run shit from the political and financial sector are still the same cunts who run shit in the so called "crypto"/ Bitcoin sector.

Until FIAT has no more value than shit stuck to the bottom of your shoe, the same BS Cycle of Crypto, Defi, Shitherum fanboys, and scams will continue  

Society is controlled by cunts, promoted by their corrupt propaganda media and the rest of the bottom feeders.

Fuck! Binance and FTX, Cryptsy, MtGox, and the rest of the other centralised wankers.

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June 05, 2023, 07:35:20 PM

Hot take:

We live in a strange dystopia where one of the biggest/most profitable Tech companies in the world announces their first new product in 9 years:

A VR headset that 99.9999% of society doesn't want, never asked for and will never buy.

Talk about tone deaf.

I'm starting the believe that the more RnD money you lose as a Tech company, the more profitable you actually become.

Bizarro World.

It's all relative. $3499 in a few mo is like 2k a few years back.
Peeps like Bill Gates were also snickering about the $599 iphone in 2008.
Personally, barring discomfort with the band and overheating, I like the 'toy".
I have the Quest, but you really sweat in it if doing something like table tennis game.
We all stopped using it after a few months.

You predict that they won't sell 10K of them, I would say 300K-500K year 1, much more later.
I think it could make a great trading station....naughty apps would follow too.
G-d, i suddenly have a mental image of Gareth Soloway in it, trying to short btc......brrrrr
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June 05, 2023, 07:41:58 PM
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Hot take:

We live in a strange dystopia where one of the biggest/most profitable Tech companies in the world announces their first new product in 9 years:

A VR headset that 99.9999% of society doesn't want, never asked for and will never buy.

Talk about tone deaf.

I'm starting the believe that the more RnD money you lose as a Tech company, the more profitable you actually become.

Bizarro World.

It's only 3500 bucks.  Cheesy


Bottom line: If it can't do porn and do it far better than an Oculus, it won't be worth 10 bucks.

If it can do porn and make it look like a 21 year old Jenna Jameson is in your very own bedroom, it will sell millions.
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June 05, 2023, 07:46:16 PM
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It's the ol' fudslam. Wait until things are quiet and some low-level FUD comes along then sell enough to move the market down and accumulate while people are fearful.
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I'm sorry, I just had to laugh at this pic and sorry for quoting it and taking up space.  That clock-staring cat could have been me over the years.  I don't know how many times I've posted "bitcoin will take 25 years to get to $X, and if it does we'll probably be in a zombie apocalypse".  And then way, waaaay before I knew it bitcoin would surge past $X and then higher and higher to new dollar amounts that I'd never have predicted.

Thinking back on what could have been makes my skin crawl.

What the hell is this thread about?  I only stumbled upon it doing post reviews.  Lol.

Hahahahahaha

For sure, throughout the years (especially referring to the last 5-10 years), there have been plenty bitcoin doubters who had been similar to you in terms of believing that they understood bitcoin, and then realizing that they did not know hardly shit about it, except for perhaps recognizing the word bitcoin.. and saying to their lil selfies.. "yeah, I know about bitcoins".

And even when they believe that they had it all figured out, they still hardly have (had) any clue.. but they still whine about how much monies (probably in terms of dollars) they could have had made and they continue to ongoingly fail/refuse to take adequate and sufficient actions to stack sats.

In other words, you will likely be complaining again in about 2033 about how many great opportunities that you would have had in bitcoin, had you ONLY stacked some sats (and learned how to become somewhat aggressive about it) in 2023...

Sucks to be you. I suppose, unless you get your shit together at some point and start to take some persistent and ongoing bitcoin stacking action.... by the way.. even though you do not have anyone to blame but yourself, you are far from the ONLY peep (normie) who continues to persistently fail/refuse to get bitcoin and to take some immediate (and perhaps somewhat aggressive?) sat-stacking action.

What the hell is this thread about?  I only stumbled upon it doing post reviews.  Lol.

Welcome. Its for talking about boobs and ChartBuddy, and copy/pasting shit from Twitter for merits.

Finally, nutildah, you are starting to catch on.    Wink

Little by little, even the most stubborn of us can start to "catch on"


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June 05, 2023, 08:34:30 PM
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This is yet another dump of the market, now it may require some time to recover the previous condition of the market. I have noticed something strange and I don't know if that's the case or not. Whenever, the Luna2, or Lunc, tokens are pumped a little bit the next day with the dump the Bitcoin also gets a dump. I might be wrong but I think there is something happening that we aren't aware of. I'm not claiming that my speculation is correct but I observed that thing and it might be true in the case of this dump.

I'm not neglecting the case of Binance and the action against its CEO MR.CZ, but still I have seen that thing happening two times in sequel and I'm sure they might have something to do with the market. The Sec news has has created panic in minds of the investors and they think that Binance might have same fate as FTX, and that is mostly the real cause of the market dumping. But, the Lunc thing is just my speculation only, and I won't claim anything serious.
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June 05, 2023, 08:58:14 PM

Its reported JayjuanGee keyboard its broken, so he cant make his walltext.
Do you think?
i do wonder how many planks you typically go through in a day.

This here cat does not walk any planks.



and i am interested how long keycaps last before you erode them down to a stub. and mechanical switches.. do they overheat from the friction or do you use some sort of esoteric cooling system that you should probably patent.

science wants to know.

Furthermore, this here cat does not give-away any too many trade secrets, either.

#justsaying.


Its reported JayjuanGee keyboard its broken, so he cant make his walltext.
Do you think?
i do wonder how many planks you typically go through in a day. and i am interested how long keycaps last before you erode them down to a stub. and mechanical switches.. do they overheat from the friction or do you use some sort of esoteric cooling system that you should probably patent.

science wants to know.
hmmmm maybe this? perfect for bots..



I'm not going to say one way or the other (that's why you have to get the shadowy supercoder version, not the mere supercoder version... did I disclose too much?).

A am glad that we passed the debt ceiling in US, but every rational person should ask themselves: where is it all going?
The debt number is going vertical and we are now paying something above $700 bil/yearly in interest in US alone.
My children are bitter that they cannot afford to buy a house and I don't want to "spoil" them by doling cash for that (they could inherit later on, of course).
Quite a dilemma.

However, I don't have a feeling that we are early, maybe because I went through all these bitcoin up and down gyrations in the last 10 years and have some regrets of not being a nimble trader during those years. Similarly, I did not feel that AAPL, AMZN and GOOG were "early" in 2011, but they went up 15X (AAPL), 12x (AMZN), 8X (GOOG) since then and this is, perhaps, instructive.

Time will show if we are, indeed, early, but a gigantic 'plateau' for decades at some point is also possible (with ever diminishing "pulse" from the successive halvings), even though most don't expect it.

Yes...

At least you admit that you have always been whimpy when it comes to bitcoin... just like your current above post shows your ongoing consistency in that ongoing wannabe whimpy direction.


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That's why I like you so much.. #nohomo


By the way, relatively speaking, you (Biodom) surely do not appear to be like anything even close to a whimp (even though I get quite a bit of pleasures out of ongoingly labelling you as such.. for emphasis, of course) compared to 99% or so of the overall world's population that still continues to fail/refuse to sufficiently/adequately stack sats, and surely there are some of those no coiners, low coiners or pre-coiners that have no fucking clue what bitcoin is, and the more ignorant of them would surely be excused from their ongoing failure/refusal to stack sats - whimpily or otherwise.
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I think we can reach the 20k depending on how Binance manage this and how the fear in investor is selling.

But for me nothing to be fear, also a new great opportunitie to BUY MORE BTC a promotional price thanks to an limited offer brought to us by the department of justice of USA.

R.I.P Traders who was leverared, thinking about next bullrun.
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From my experience, there will be more panic selling from the FUD incoming. Of course it's all market manipulation, but knowing that fact means that buying now is a good chance for a decent PnL. I think we will bounce back, as we always do after FUD.

I am planning on buying the dip at 24k Cheesy


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Bitcoin dumping  Cry


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Push this Inflation causing, Scam and Chaos inviting Bljatcoin to oblivion
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June 05, 2023, 10:51:05 PM

I've been waiting for Binance to be targeted as soon as the FTX situation blew up and regulators realized that Binance did the exact same thing as FTX,

That's not true, and it is even a bunch of bullshit.

You should know better than that OgNasty.

FTX is largely used as an excuse to go after Binance - with a bunch play off of xenophobic fears, and so if you really consider the matter, you may well wonder how purposeful was the blowing up of FTX in order to create or exacerbate excuses to build political will power and misinformation in order to attack various aspects of bitcoin.

For sure Binance trades shitcoins and likely does some of the same things (and similar things as FTX), yet it likely helps to better understand what is going on if you do not try to overly simplify and act as if they are doing "exactly the same thing" when that is just bullshit and not even close to true.

It's a good excuse though, isn't it?

It gives pretty decent regulatory cover, doesn't it?

What the fuck do you think is going to happen with all of these various likely desperate attacks (against crypto and then bitcoin) coming from within the USA?.. more and more off-shoring of bitcoin.. and yeah, I am not even really complaining about the attacks happening, but I am complaining with regards to your oversimplification and bucketing FTX and Binance in the same bucket. and yeah, you are not the ONLY one employing such lame and loose use of the facts and/or logic to reach lame and superficial conclusions.

but they were able to survive a cycle doing so and became insanely wealthy as a result. 

Yeah.. keep building on it.

Maybe you should try to grapple with actual facts rather than making shit up?

Looks like now that regulators have caught on, they are going to be looking to take a piece of flesh from CZ. 

Of course, regulators want someone to go after.... a bit of a distraction, no?

You seem to be buying it.  Hook, line and sinker.

We need more regulation, right?

We need CZ to get thrown in jail for life, right?

Examples need to be made, and SBF is not enough..

Probably SBF will go free and CZ will get put in jail.  That would be a really great (and just) outcome right?  It was really CZ who caused SBF to defraud millions of people and to engage in his bullshit fake exchange in which he was not even holding any bitcoins that he claimed to have 80k bitcoin, and there was only 1 or 2 bitcoin in the whole inventory of both FTX and Alameda combined.  Don't get me wrong.  I am sure that several of the employees, founders and leaders of FTX and Alameda had some bitcoin (and probably still have a decent number of bitcoin).

This is in no way a positive development for Bitcoin in the short term,

So ?  We are going down from here?   Just like we did in August 2013 when Silk Road got shut down?  And, also just like we did in late 2016 when the chinese cracked down on people holding bitcoin in their highly liquid exchanges?  Or do you have another great comparison regarding why bitcoin is going down in the short term?  I am sure you will be able to come up with something convincing, and hopefully (for your own sake) you don't sell too many of your cornz and get ur lil selfie reckt.. and better yet, hopefully not too many newbies are listening to your lame proclamations regarding the short-term doomedness of my lil precious.

and we're already seeing the start of the pain, but long term I think if we want to see Bitcoin hit the high 6 figures, it is absolutely necessary to weed out the bad actors in the space, and Binance is just FTX with a first mover advantage.

Pretty lame  repetition of nonsense.. but whatever, you do you.

You have a right to whatever dumb and inadequate comparison that you like, and I have a right to call your assessment dumb and to pray that NOT too many folks buy into such nonsense... for their own good.. even though sure there are no guarantees that you might end up being directionally correct, and in that regard, we always have to be prepared financially and psychologically for BTC prices to go in directions that are beyond our expectations for lower and longer than we expected them to go there.. whether we are referring to up or down.

So much for the weekend dip Sad


Yes....


HODLers who hold together, cry together.

Sucks to be a HODLer...  Cry Cry Cry Cry Cry.

Hot take:
We live in a strange dystopia where one of the biggest/most profitable Tech companies in the world announces their first new product in 9 years:

A VR headset that 99.9999% of society doesn't want, never asked for and will never buy.

Talk about tone deaf.

I'm starting the believe that the more RnD money you lose as a Tech company, the more profitable you actually become.

Bizarro World.
There's more of it.
We live in a world where people who don't understand technology make laws regarding it.
In a world where boomers who had nothing to do with the Internet all their lives try to regulate it.
In a world where people still think they can post something online and then change or delete it and nobody will notice.
In a world where people who try to make us limit our CO2 emissions and force us to drive electric cars fly to conferences in private jets, are driven around in V12 limos and spend holidays on their yachts powered by diesel engines...

I'm in a rant mood Cheesy
Beta boy Gensler has no power here.
This dip will be shaken off in a few days. We’ll be at over $30,000 by the end of the month.

(Not financial advice).
I don't like Gary but he said it many times that every coin apart from bitcoin is a security and exchange tokens like BNB are 100% securities, you can't deny it, so they can't touch bitcoin but want to touch CZ.
I couldn't care less about CZ.

I agree with almost everything that you said in your part 1 (response above) darkangel11, but you went into such looney-toon crazy-land in part 2, that I almost vomited (figuratively, not literally)...

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