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July 02, 2014, 09:27:18 PM

HERE WE GO

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Alot more than the other bidders. Just name a fucking number. XXX per bitcoins.
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July 02, 2014, 09:28:44 PM

HERE WE GO

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Alot more than the other bidders. Just name a fucking number. XXX per bitcoins.

Is it a press conference or something?
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July 02, 2014, 09:29:26 PM

Meanwhile.. people are selling. LMAO

volume is very dissapointing lately

a trustworthy us-exchange is needed imo, the gox desaster really hurt in that regard
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July 02, 2014, 09:29:40 PM

HERE WE GO

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Alot more than the other bidders. Just name a fucking number. XXX per bitcoins.

Is it a press conference or something?

Yes. But sound quality is really bad.

Press is asking questions now.
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July 02, 2014, 09:31:31 PM

Alright, one reported asked how much they paid for the Bitcoins.

They wont answer that question or questions related to that subject.
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July 02, 2014, 09:32:07 PM

the auction was won by batman and robin   Cheesy
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July 02, 2014, 09:32:51 PM

That's fine I'm watching it now.

He has confirmed he is not going to release the amount bid. Says he is not concerned about price fluctuations as he is not a trader and he is in it for the long term investment. Wants to put the coins to good use and allow the coins to proliferate.
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July 02, 2014, 09:36:11 PM

The guy from Vaurum says Brazil is one of their prime targets.  They're coming to get you, Jorge!  Brazil will be assimilated... Smiley
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July 02, 2014, 09:37:21 PM

he just told, he won't reveal how much he paid. but it is a long term term investment
this investment will help the world economy..
he might be looking for more btc, he will be givin another press release
he did spend use btc atm
..snap cart...
the btc he bought are under his own name
building wonderfull ecosystem

daniel from coindesk about transaction fees..
srry to lazy to continue , hoping someone else will give a transcription
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July 02, 2014, 09:39:49 PM

shroomdude was right

dumb stupid bears dumping are dumb stupid bears  Angry

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July 02, 2014, 09:41:23 PM

This whole thing is about as exciting as watching paint dry.
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July 02, 2014, 09:42:57 PM

until mr perfect (Karl-Theodor zu Guttenberg) blew it all.

That's fairly an understatement.

First he copied wide sections of his Ph.D. thesis.
http://www.spiegel.de/international/germany/plagiarism-accusations-widen-guttenberg-copied-work-of-german-parliament-s-research-department-a-746573.html

Then he tried to reemerge into German politics with bad excuses and accusations among his colleagues
http://www.dw.de/disgraced-former-minister-guttenberg-explores-return-to-politics/a-15653164


(Sry, couldn't find better articles in English. There's a ton of 'em in German though Wink )

Oh it's that guy, lol. Have fun Ripple Wink

when confronted with the accusation that there may have been some "copy&paste" in his thesis he told the journalists that those accusations were "abstruse" while everyone with internet access could see:




the white lines represent the pages of his thesis where NO plagiarism was found. let that sink in.   Cheesy

he refused to step down, lied about every little thing, and did the most stunning political career crash in postwar german history. he had to leave the country. his key agenda was honorableness.
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July 02, 2014, 09:44:23 PM

Somebody tell me that dumping wasn't because of that dude doing a press conference. That would be beyond pathetic.
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July 02, 2014, 09:44:41 PM

@potential buyers, If you are interested to wait until it hits $5000, I have a few thousand BTC for sale. Contact me.
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July 02, 2014, 09:46:25 PM

The field was most level when our weapons were hands, feet, and teeth.  It has become steadily more uneven since then: the guys with more money generally have the best defenses and deadliest weapons, and technological advances have only amplified the difference.  
No. It might have been nearly level between young, fit men but age a bit, get sick or be a child or female and you start getting power imbalance.
This species of primate used to live in families and small groups where old and children were protected; fights were limited by instinct, etc.   There were few things to fight about, and no band would try to "own" everything or enslave other groups, because it simply did not make physical sense.  So, by and large, no group was much better off than any other.

Weapons made the playing field much more unequal.  Those who had swords, guns, bombers etc. could "own" whole countries or continents, taking the best of the resources and forcing millions to work for their benefit.

Now, throw a few inexpensive firearms in there and suddenly even the weak and unskilled can put down several oppressors without letting their physical advantage get anywhere close. It's a game-changer (physical advantage still plays into things but its importance is greatly diminished).
I should know better than getting into firearm discussion, but...

Firearms give advantage to those who use them first; they make attackers more powerful, but are very poor for defense.  Those who spend all their time, money, and energy to acquire bigger guns will always prevail over those who try to live a honest life of productive work, even if they have guns.  A  machine gun trumps a revolver, a bazooka trumps a machine gun, a missile trumps a bazooka, and so on. 

Several of my relatives and acquanitances have been victims of armed robberies in their homes.  (A student frat next door to my house was robbed a couple of months ago, just after the students moved in.  Frats are popular targets, since the robbers can count on collecting 6-12 laptopts and that many smartphones, at the very least.) Some of the victims had guns.  One was a gun collector.  But not one was able to use a gun for defense; instead, the robbers took their guns too. 

In the typical armed robbery, one household member is made hostage when he/she enters or leaves the home, and is forced to open the doors for three or four bandits, guns in hand.  Usually handguns, but sometimes heavy machine guns.  Perhaps one or two family members could use the house gun that is stored somewhere; but only a totally demented person would try to, in those circumstances.  In all those cases, fortunately, the robbers left without harming anyone. 

It would make no difference if the victims had machine guns, bazookas, or portable tactical nuclear devices in their homes.  The robbers will always be one step ahead, and improvements in weapons technology and availability will only make the gap bigger. 

Even in the Wild West, the (relatively) best way to keep robbers at bay was to have the State nearby and on your side, with the biggest guns available.  That solution has its risks, of course, but by and large ordinary people with governments with guns have always fared better than outlaws with guns.
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July 02, 2014, 09:46:42 PM

@potential buyers, If you are interested to wait until it hits $5000, I have a few thousand BTC for sale. Contact me.

if you need some more to sell at this price, contact me   Wink
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July 02, 2014, 09:46:52 PM

Somebody tell me that dumping wasn't because of that dude doing a press conference. That would be beyond pathetic.

They must expect him to say he's going to dump them all tomorrow?
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July 02, 2014, 09:47:19 PM

@potential buyers, If you are interested to wait until it hits $5000, I have a few thousand BTC for sale. Contact me.
You're selling at $5k Huh

Hey! I'm happy to sell at 4999  Grin
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July 02, 2014, 09:47:25 PM

@potential buyers, If you are interested to wait until it hits $5000, I have a few thousand BTC for sale. Contact me.

You're selling at $5k Huh
It'll be market price by then.
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July 02, 2014, 09:47:44 PM

The field was most level when our weapons were hands, feet, and teeth.  It has become steadily more uneven since then: the guys with more money generally have the best defenses and deadliest weapons, and technological advances have only amplified the difference.  
No. It might have been nearly level between young, fit men but age a bit, get sick or be a child or female and you start getting power imbalance.
This species of primate used to live in families and small groups where old and children were protected; fights were limited by instinct, etc.   There were few things to fight about, and no band would try to "own" everything or enslave other groups, because it simply did not make physical sense.  So, by and large, no group was much better off than any other.

Weapons made the playing field much more unequal.  Those who had swords, guns, bombers etc. could "own" whole countries or continents, taking the best of the resources and forcing millions to work for their benefit.

Now, throw a few inexpensive firearms in there and suddenly even the weak and unskilled can put down several oppressors without letting their physical advantage get anywhere close. It's a game-changer (physical advantage still plays into things but its importance is greatly diminished).
I should know better than getting into firearm discussion, but...

Firearms give advantage to those who use them first; they make attackers more powerful, but are very poor for defense.  Those who spend all their time, money, and energy to acquire bigger guns will always prevail over those who try to live a honest life of productive work, even if they have guns.  A  machine gun trumps a revolver, a bazooka trumps a machine gun, a missile trumps a bazooka, and so on. 

Several of my relatives and acquanitances have been victims of armed robberies in their homes.  (A student frat next door to my house was robbed a couple of months ago, just after the students moved in.  Frats are popular targets, since the robbers can count on collecting 6-12 laptopts and that many smartphones, at the very least.) Some of the victims had guns.  One was a gun collector.  But not one was able to use a gun for defense; instead, the robbers took their guns too. 

In the typical armed robbery, one household member is made hostage when he/she enters or leaves the home, and is forced to open the doors for three or four bandits, guns in hand.  Usually handguns, but sometimes heavy machine guns.  Perhaps one or two family members could use the house gun that is stored somewhere; but only a totally demented person would try to, in those circumstances.  In all those cases, fortunately, the robbers left without harming anyone. 

It would make no difference if the victims had machine guns, bazookas, or portable tactical nuclear devices in their homes.  The robbers will always be one step ahead, and improvements in weapons technology and availability will only make the gap bigger. 

Even in the Wild West, the (relatively) best way to keep robbers at bay was to have the State nearby and on your side, with the biggest guns available.  That solution has its risks, of course, but by and large ordinary people with governments with guns have always fared better than outlaws with guns.


hello jorge,

attack is the best defense  Smiley
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