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[Wandererfromthenorth]

^ My friend's comment about drone/industrial:  "Spent thousands on this stuff.  Should'a just gone down to the basement and listened to my furnace." <==true story

(last OT post)

pffffff,

My last comment: "You´re not true if you don´t own multiple copies of the whole Merzbow discography!"

http://www.discogs.com/artist/12551-Merzbow

Edit:

or Agathocles  

http://www.discogs.com/search/?q=agathocles

Merbow is not bad!

What about Gerogerigegege?


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPGTuidwxm4

LOL

Nothing wrong with them, i own at least one 7" and a tape from them, haven´t listened to it for about ~ 10 years though.    
Short lo-fi noise attacks got a bit too stressful for me nowadays.

Edit:

Best Japan-Noise livegig ever:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rxJUbd66Vcc

"Hanatarash was notorious for its dangerous live shows. Some of the band's most infamous shows included Eye cutting a dead cat in half with a machete, strapping a circular saw to his back and almost cutting his leg off, and destroying part of a venue with a backhoe bulldozer by driving it through the back wall and onto the stage.[2]

At a 1985 show in Tokyo's Superloft, the audience was required to fill out waivers due to the possibility of harm caused by the show. The show was stopped due to Eye preparing to throw a lit molotov cocktail onto the stage. The performance cost ¥600,000 (approximately $9,000 US) in repairs.[3]"

lolol

lmao that's fucked up

Another crazy mofo, not that extreme tho:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKuZzR2FknI

[WeGotCactus]

https://i.imgur.com/EmGhuCP.png

[fonzie]

lmao that's fucked up

Another crazy mofo, not that extreme tho:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKuZzR2FknI

Masonna = big love  

Saw him live.

[NotLambchop]

>Because people buy, hold, and speculate in Bitcoin (this thread) to save kittens.

Also babies, puppies, and rainbows. Now you are starting to get it. If you want to know how, you'll have to ask, but I'm sure you are not interested in the motives of others.

Are you being intentionally daffy, or did your mind finally snap due to devastating (and, frankly, predictable and therefore embarrassingly avoidable) financial losses?

Classic defensive response. He's obviously suffering from neurotic trauma stemming from his epic weak hands.

In case it's not obvious: I'm not laughing at you because of your untempered greed.  Many here would argue that greed is good.  But mix in some ineptitude, and you got lols.  Add some ignorance, pompous posturing and paranoia?  Perfect!
Pure comedy gold!
 

[ChartBuddy]

Explanation

[Wandererfromthenorth]

Not sure you can say that, the same formation happened before and was followed by more down.
Also, the circumstances were different than what they are now...

[JayJuanGee]

I believe that last point is a bit much, and merely seems to be playing into concepts that BTC is a ponzi scheme, which you should realize by now that it is NOT a ponzi scheme, even though you want to continue to project theories and to see data that are in support of those kinds of ideas and the spreading of those kinds of frameworks.

Once again, YOU are saying "BTC is a ponzi scheme", not me. 

Those entrepreneurs obviously have substantial interest in making people believe that bitcoin has a bright future and is going "to the moon" any time now.   They are selling their funds, services, and bitcoins; and no one expects salesmen to provide unbiased evaluations or sponsor impartial data gathering and publication.  That is all.

In both this response, and your reference to my previous response, you suggest that I am characterizing bitcoin or the motives of bitcoin players.  Neither of which is accurate.  You should realize, as a supposedly sophisticated and supposedly educated person, that I am characterizing your statements and the inferences of your statements and the apparent motives of your statements.  It is possible that my characterization of your statements is inaccurate, and in that regard it remains inaccurate to attribute to me what you are seeming to be saying and/or asserting and/or your motivations for such characterizations.

There's NOTHING that is really bearish about the data contained in your first two links above, and your last point seems to be near total pie in the sky speculation with NO real world evidence to support the point that you seem to be attempting to outline (as if bitcoin is kind of dying away... hehehehe.. yeah, right...) 

YOU are saying "bitcoin is kind of dying away", not me.

But, indeed, there is NO real world evidence about bitcoin usage.  Those plots do not show such growth, and we have no idea of what that blockchain traffic really is.  That is all of my point.

But, if you care to know, I also believe that the bitcoin entrepreneurs like Andreessen, Sielbert, Draper, Matonis etc. (and the bitcoin "news" sites that they support, like Coindesk) have no interest in such data becoming available, because they know that it would be depressing and bad for their sales.  Just like they want people to believe that China is irrelevant.

[JayJuanGee]

BTC is an pyramid scheme, not an ponzi scheme.

I think you are full of shit in your attempt to draw subtle distinctions that remain inaccurate; however, what's the difference in your "esteemed" estimation?  Or are you just throwing out a bunch of claims without any basis in reality in an attempt to inaccurately categorize bitcoin into what it is NOT?

[JayJuanGee]

I believe that last point is a bit much, and merely seems to be playing into concepts that BTC is a ponzi scheme, which you should realize by now that it is NOT a ponzi scheme, even though you want to continue to project theories and to see data that are in support of those kinds of ideas and the spreading of those kinds of frameworks.

Once again, YOU are saying "BTC is a ponzi scheme", not me. 

Those entrepreneurs obviously have substantial interest in making people believe that bitcoin has a bright future and is going "to the moon" any time now.   They are selling their funds, services, and bitcoins; and no one expects salesmen to provide unbiased evaluations or sponsor impartial data gathering and publication.  That is all.

It should be noted also that no one should expect a balanced view of the market/Bitcoin from people who define their identity on Bitcoin being a failure either. Someone who claims they have no stake in the game, and is skeptical of Bitcoin (to the point of having it included in every post) should be viewed in the same light you are projecting on the these "salesmen". That is all.

+1      Jorge tries to position himself above the fray with his bullshit claims of academia... and supposed objectivity. 

[JustGuess]

>Because people buy, hold, and speculate in Bitcoin (this thread) to save kittens.

Also babies, puppies, and rainbows. Now you are starting to get it. If you want to know how, you'll have to ask, but I'm sure you are not interested in the motives of others.

Are you being intentionally daffy, or did your mind finally snap due to devastating (and, frankly, predictable and therefore embarrassingly avoidable) financial losses?

Lambenstein before his pink unicorn transformation?

https://i.imgur.com/v9scPMh.jpg

Refresh your hangings. I mean all of them.

[tarmi]

I feel so much pain here.

[empowering]

I see trolls (95%) with agendas.

[grappa_barricata]

Two questions:
- what is this thing, and
- how do we stop it from reproducing

[NotLambchop]

...

>makes an account just to make posts about me

A bit creepy, but hey, I don't judge.  Get yourself checked, tho.

[Ivanhoe]

...

>makes an account just to make posts about me

A bit creepy, but hey, I don't judge.  Get yourself checked, tho.

Make a account here and spend hour after hour just to troll isn't sad?

How is Gloria Jean Porter?

[NotLambchop]

...How is Gloria Jean Porter?

P.S:  If she bought Bitcoin, she's like this:

[JayJuanGee]

And if we are to worry about paper losses, the skeptics have more to lose than their untarnished egos. For example, you have been around these parts since December of last year, you've had plenty of time to accumulate some bitcoins for sub $1000/$600/$300 prices. Your lack of buying over the past year means you've forgone the chance to reap the benefits of a sudden bubble to say $6k. That's a 10x increase in paper gains you are betting on not happening. Which I would guess would have more impact to your life than the loss of a couple million would to the Draper family. Fear of missing out is as good a reason as any to try to influence the price down for a skeptic.

I am not sure I understand the logic.  "I may have an oportunity to make more than 1000% ROI in the near future, but since I did not bet on that opportunity before, I will try to prevent that opportunity from arising."

By the way, note that my strategy -- NOT buying a single satoshi -- has put me in a much better position, vis a vis that fabulous possible opportunity, than all those who went "all in" since last November, when I first learned of bitcoin.  In the unlikely chance that I decide to invest now, I will get twice as much return on the dollar than those who bought in January and have been hodling since then.

You are being quite selective with your presentation and your timeline.  There are people who got involved in BTC in January 2013, and currently those investments would be worth about 30x the initial investment value.    Since December or January, you have been whining about the decline of value of BTC and you have been using the November/December ATH as your starting reference point...  Your vision seems a bit skewed, no?  Do you claim to be an academician?

[bassclef]

Not sure you can say that, the same formation happened before and was followed by more down.
Also, the circumstances were different than what they are now...

Everything has been followed by more down, lately, even good news. At some point one has to start taking a balanced view and not just because we've made a lot of money shorting and the prevailing trend is down, so we must have more down. I've increased my stash quite a bit for the ride up, which will be happening sooner rather than later, but it doesn't mean I'll keep shorting when I see signs of the trend reversing.

12h chart. Look at the sell volume. Not exactly a high-volume selloff. Bears are almost out of ammo.

[JayJuanGee]

JayJuanGee,

If I post several long paragraphs explaining why possibility does not imply even slight probability, would it have any impact on your analysis about anything?

Maybe.       Nonetheless, I understand the difference between the terms, but you never know about whether something that you may say may enlighten the thinking of another.... whether bot or human.

[InvestorPerson]

perfect time to buy in now, cheap coins, look at those cheap coins OMNOMNOM, after that of course to DA MOON yaddayaddayadda