Third alt coin thread last two were too big. Builds links thoughts etc

[yslyung]

I saw mention of PICO in this thread, something about it is a type of PSU or something that connects to PSU and motherboard? Will someone explain this a bit more?

A pico PSU is a small PCB that plugs directly into the Motherboard 24pin slot, and can power a basic system. It usually also has one plug for Molex and One for Sata to also power an HDD/SSD, but a very small total Power capacity, usually 120-150W. It's not needed for people like you and me who have regular 1000/1300W PSU's for their system.
Now, 2k or 4k server PSU's were originally designed for use with ASIC's and only have 6 pin GPU out ports and no 24pin output for motherboards or molex sata power etc. They are used in conjugation with low capacity regular PSU's (450W) to run the system off of. The picoPSU that Finksy is making would connect directly to one of the 6 pin cables from the 2k/4k power supplies, and thus eliminate the need for small PSU's to run the system, and upto 2/4 systems can be entirely powered by a 2k/4k server PSU.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1806061.msg18232409#msg18232409

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[philipma1957]

I saw mention of PICO in this thread, something about it is a type of PSU or something that connects to PSU and motherboard? Will someone explain this a bit more?

A pico PSU is a small PCB that plugs directly into the Motherboard 24pin slot, and can power a basic system. It usually also has one plug for Molex and One for Sata to also power an HDD/SSD, but a very small total Power capacity, usually 120-150W. It's not needed for people like you and me who have regular 1000/1300W PSU's for their system.
Now, 2k or 4k server PSU's were originally designed for use with ASIC's and only have 6 pin GPU out ports and no 24pin output for motherboards or molex sata power etc. They are used in conjugation with low capacity regular PSU's (450W) to run the system off of. The picoPSU that Finksy is making would connect directly to one of the 6 pin cables from the 2k/4k power supplies, and thus eliminate the need for small PSU's to run the system, and upto 2/4 systems can be entirely powered by a 2k/4k server PSU.

hoping to set one up and demo it. for all.

oh these came in today

http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/radeon-rx400-series
$199.99 no tax free shipping i used paypal 6 months to pay
giving me about 24.2 mh
all my other cards do about 26.1

[rawbert]

oh these came in today

http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/radeon-rx400-series
$199.99 no tax free shipping i used paypal 6 months to pay
giving me about 24.2 mh
all my other cards do about 26.1

What kind of RAM these diamond ref cards come with Phil?

[philipma1957]

hoping to set one up and demo it. for all.

oh these came in today

http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/radeon-rx400-series
$199.99 no tax free shipping i used paypal 6 months to pay
giving me about 24.2 mh
all my other cards do about 26.1

What kind of RAM these diamond ref cards come with Phil?
[/quote]

I don't bother to look as I don't flash

 I go right to smOS and mine them  .

They do not clock as high as the asus strix or the msi gamer

no bios flash 

asus strix rx 480 6gb   26.2 ------------- 245 usd
msi  gamer   rx 480 8gb  26.2 ---------- 245 usd
diamond       rx   480 8gb  24.5 --------- 200 usd

that 45 dollar price difference is hard to make up   even if one goes to 31 and the other to 28 with a flash

[LoneRangir]

Has anyone been keeping track of 1070s vs 1080s vs 1080 TIs with respect to ZEC (or any other Nvidia-friendly algorithm) and recent price drops and availability?

I, myself, have been 100% AMD.  However, it is another form of diversification to buy and mine the other cards, no?  Thoughts?

[xleejohnx]

I use nh   and set

 p to .7


since correct number is .53

.7 is   1.32 bigger  which = blocks at 16.5 coins  I could give a long complex set of reasons   but


www.bitcoin.com  pools is paying 110%

and people are renting really high on nh  to mine on that pool.

by doing this they get 2 votes for btu  .

one on  nicehash and one on bitcoin.com

there is a strong move to go btu

I personally prefer BTU over segwit.


but coinbase  which is my btc to fiat  and fiat to btu  dealer wants segwit.

segwit does not work for miners.


not sure what is going to happen here.

I may need to cash out more coin soon.

yeah it kinda hurts my feelings coinbase is going that way
been using them for 2 years now
if they cant get it together i might have to move coinsbank and support them!!

[philipma1957]

Has anyone been keeping track of 1070s vs 1080s vs 1080 TIs with respect to ZEC (or any other Nvidia-friendly algorithm) and recent price drops and availability?

I, myself, have been 100% AMD.  However, it is another form of diversification to buy and mine the other cards, no?  Thoughts?

just been thinking to do 1 nvida rig with 1070's

I know a 1070 does 400

and a 480 does 300 on zec   I also think it uses less power.



back to diamond vs msi gamer   the msi  gamer is 22% more  cost
it would take a while to make it up

[xleejohnx]

Has anyone been keeping track of 1070s vs 1080s vs 1080 TIs with respect to ZEC (or any other Nvidia-friendly algorithm) and recent price drops and availability?

I, myself, have been 100% AMD.  However, it is another form of diversification to buy and mine the other cards, no?  Thoughts?

just been thinking to do 1 nvida rig with 1070's

I know a 1070 does 400

and a 480 does 300 on zec   I also think it uses less power.



back to diamond vs msi gamer   the msi  gamer is 22% more  cost
it would take a while to make it up
https://i.imgur.com/K5CdUn7.png

<i know you dont mod just food for thought>
just coping the 1500 strap all the way down with PBE on all your cards would make a huge difference in speed and efficiency

they are very close in power usage
look at this for comparison
http://gpuboss.com/gpus/Radeon-RX-480-vs-EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070

[arielbit]

Has anyone been keeping track of 1070s vs 1080s vs 1080 TIs with respect to ZEC (or any other Nvidia-friendly algorithm) and recent price drops and availability?

I, myself, have been 100% AMD.  However, it is another form of diversification to buy and mine the other cards, no?  Thoughts?

i'm looking into it..the power efficiency seems enticing, i don't care if it ROI a bit longer than AMDs as long as it gives me higher hashrate per watt and space, my mining room is getting filled..i'll buy a rack and put nvidia GPUs there.

i mentioned "space"...let's say only 10 gpus can fit in an area, if 10 can do 600 sols each that's 6000sols, imagine if your card can only do 300 sols, that is only 3000 sols in that area..

[philipma1957]

Has anyone been keeping track of 1070s vs 1080s vs 1080 TIs with respect to ZEC (or any other Nvidia-friendly algorithm) and recent price drops and availability?

I, myself, have been 100% AMD.  However, it is another form of diversification to buy and mine the other cards, no?  Thoughts?

i'm looking into it..the power efficiency seems enticing, i don't care if it ROI a bit longer than AMDs as long as it gives me higher hashrate per watt and space, my mining room is getting filled..i'll buy a rack and put nvidia GPUs there.

i mentioned "space"...let's say only 10 gpus can fit in an area, if 10 can do 600 sols each that's 6000sols, imagine if your card can only do 300 sols, that is only 3000 sols in that area..

Well I will be moving everything to the solar array.

I think I max out with 15-18 cards due to space.

I was going to do pandaminers but they sold out.

[citronick]

Has anyone been keeping track of 1070s vs 1080s vs 1080 TIs with respect to ZEC (or any other Nvidia-friendly algorithm) and recent price drops and availability?

I, myself, have been 100% AMD.  However, it is another form of diversification to buy and mine the other cards, no?  Thoughts?

i'm looking into it..the power efficiency seems enticing, i don't care if it ROI a bit longer than AMDs as long as it gives me higher hashrate per watt and space, my mining room is getting filled..i'll buy a rack and put nvidia GPUs there.

i mentioned "space"...let's say only 10 gpus can fit in an area, if 10 can do 600 sols each that's 6000sols, imagine if your card can only do 300 sols, that is only 3000 sols in that area..

Someone in the ZEC forum, showcased with 6 x 1070s mining ZEC with EWBF, if not mistaken it was at 500sols/s per card!
But it seems that only ZEC algo is fitting nicely into the current NVIDIA architecture .... other hot algo like ETH and XMR still has AMD tops and cheaper too.

IMHO, while ETH is most profitable now, nearing POS by 2018, will ZEC will have a longer life?

ZEC at 64 bucks now may get several boost higher towards ETH pos.

And we know ZEC have tried $ price levels even higher than 1000 bucks before.

With BTC drama on Segwit vs BU, the pressure to position a likely successor may well be ZEC.

If ZEC benefits from above.... I think its worth while exploring and investing in a NVIDIA ZEC monster rig.

[Marvell1]

Has anyone been keeping track of 1070s vs 1080s vs 1080 TIs with respect to ZEC (or any other Nvidia-friendly algorithm) and recent price drops and availability?

I, myself, have been 100% AMD.  However, it is another form of diversification to buy and mine the other cards, no?  Thoughts?

i'm looking into it..the power efficiency seems enticing, i don't care if it ROI a bit longer than AMDs as long as it gives me higher hashrate per watt and space, my mining room is getting filled..i'll buy a rack and put nvidia GPUs there.

i mentioned "space"...let's say only 10 gpus can fit in an area, if 10 can do 600 sols each that's 6000sols, imagine if your card can only do 300 sols, that is only 3000 sols in that area..

Someone in the ZEC forum, showcased with 6 x 1070s mining ZEC with EWBF, if not mistaken it was at 500sols/s per card!
But it seems that only ZEC algo is fitting nicely into the current NVIDIA architecture .... other hot algo like ETH and XMR still has AMD tops and cheaper too.

IMHO, while ETH is most profitable now, nearing POS by 2018, will ZEC will have a longer life?

ZEC at 64 bucks now may get several boost higher towards ETH pos.

And we know ZEC have tried $ price levels even higher than 1000 bucks before.

With BTC drama on Segwit vs BU, the pressure to position a likely successor may well be ZEC.

If ZEC benefits from above.... I think its worth while exploring and investing in a NVIDIA ZEC monster rig.

I have a rig of 1070s at 500 sols they will be using too much power, you can do a 70% power limite and mine at 460 sols for 85 watt per card best setting i found.  1070s are just too expensive thoufg

[arielbit]

Has anyone been keeping track of 1070s vs 1080s vs 1080 TIs with respect to ZEC (or any other Nvidia-friendly algorithm) and recent price drops and availability?

I, myself, have been 100% AMD.  However, it is another form of diversification to buy and mine the other cards, no?  Thoughts?

i'm looking into it..the power efficiency seems enticing, i don't care if it ROI a bit longer than AMDs as long as it gives me higher hashrate per watt and space, my mining room is getting filled..i'll buy a rack and put nvidia GPUs there.

i mentioned "space"...let's say only 10 gpus can fit in an area, if 10 can do 600 sols each that's 6000sols, imagine if your card can only do 300 sols, that is only 3000 sols in that area..

Someone in the ZEC forum, showcased with 6 x 1070s mining ZEC with EWBF, if not mistaken it was at 500sols/s per card!
But it seems that only ZEC algo is fitting nicely into the current NVIDIA architecture .... other hot algo like ETH and XMR still has AMD tops and cheaper too.

IMHO, while ETH is most profitable now, nearing POS by 2018, will ZEC will have a longer life?

ZEC at 64 bucks now may get several boost higher towards ETH pos.

And we know ZEC have tried $ price levels even higher than 1000 bucks before.

With BTC drama on Segwit vs BU, the pressure to position a likely successor may well be ZEC.

If ZEC benefits from above.... I think its worth while exploring and investing in a NVIDIA ZEC monster rig.

I have a rig of 1070s at 500 sols they will be using too much power, you can do a 70% power limite and mine at 460 sols for 85 watt per card best setting i found.  1070s are just too expensive thoufg

can the 1080 ti almost double the hashrate of 1070? specially when zotac, msi, asus etc.. have released their custom coolers..if that's true, then i'll go with 1080 ti.

I'll qoute this from 1080 vs 1080ti thread...

its jumping between  230-291W..mean according to meter is 245W in 24h of mining zec at these settings @765sol/s

So it is probably not optimized well yet? But 245w for 765 at the wall is decent efficiency . That is the price of two 1070 that do 880 at 250W, so not that far off for (top)high-end card. (but you also have higher overheads with the 1070)

Sofar the GTX1080TI FE is a nice buy do not regret it :-D
Yes the miner not yet optimized for it..the card utilisation is at around 75% compared to 1080 .

Interesting to 100% optimized maybe reach 1000 h/s in miner ZCash

[vg54dett]

kinda off topic for a second
has anyone lended btc at poloneix?
if you havent they are paying a dumb amount of interest rates lately

Have you tried ?
I might test this feature to see how it works.
What are the usual rates ? and what are the the very high rates you saw recently ?

[philipma1957]

Has anyone been keeping track of 1070s vs 1080s vs 1080 TIs with respect to ZEC (or any other Nvidia-friendly algorithm) and recent price drops and availability?

I, myself, have been 100% AMD.  However, it is another form of diversification to buy and mine the other cards, no?  Thoughts?

i'm looking into it..the power efficiency seems enticing, i don't care if it ROI a bit longer than AMDs as long as it gives me higher hashrate per watt and space, my mining room is getting filled..i'll buy a rack and put nvidia GPUs there.

i mentioned "space"...let's say only 10 gpus can fit in an area, if 10 can do 600 sols each that's 6000sols, imagine if your card can only do 300 sols, that is only 3000 sols in that area..

Someone in the ZEC forum, showcased with 6 x 1070s mining ZEC with EWBF, if not mistaken it was at 500sols/s per card!
But it seems that only ZEC algo is fitting nicely into the current NVIDIA architecture .... other hot algo like ETH and XMR still has AMD tops and cheaper too.

IMHO, while ETH is most profitable now, nearing POS by 2018, will ZEC will have a longer life?

ZEC at 64 bucks now may get several boost higher towards ETH pos.

And we know ZEC have tried $ price levels even higher than 1000 bucks before.

With BTC drama on Segwit vs BU, the pressure to position a likely successor may well be ZEC.

If ZEC benefits from above.... I think its worth while exploring and investing in a NVIDIA ZEC monster rig.

I have a rig of 1070s at 500 sols they will be using too much power, you can do a 70% power limite and mine at 460 sols for 85 watt per card best setting i found.  1070s are just too expensive thoufg

could you link  to the card you use.

the one below is close to 390 usd with shipping

https://jet.com/product/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-GAMING-ACX-30-8GB-GDDR5-08G-P4-6171-KR/3e0775c2927b4d768f61eecbc9530d08



this one which matchs my msi rx 480's is 399 after rebate
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127955&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=nvidia_1070-_-14-127-955-_-Product


this one  I have some best buy coupons


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-xlr8-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black-red/5656049.p?skuId=5656049


it is 409  but I could get over  100 discount so 300 and say 28 tax = 328 to 340

[citronick]

Has anyone been keeping track of 1070s vs 1080s vs 1080 TIs with respect to ZEC (or any other Nvidia-friendly algorithm) and recent price drops and availability?

I, myself, have been 100% AMD.  However, it is another form of diversification to buy and mine the other cards, no?  Thoughts?

i'm looking into it..the power efficiency seems enticing, i don't care if it ROI a bit longer than AMDs as long as it gives me higher hashrate per watt and space, my mining room is getting filled..i'll buy a rack and put nvidia GPUs there.

i mentioned "space"...let's say only 10 gpus can fit in an area, if 10 can do 600 sols each that's 6000sols, imagine if your card can only do 300 sols, that is only 3000 sols in that area..

Someone in the ZEC forum, showcased with 6 x 1070s mining ZEC with EWBF, if not mistaken it was at 500sols/s per card!
But it seems that only ZEC algo is fitting nicely into the current NVIDIA architecture .... other hot algo like ETH and XMR still has AMD tops and cheaper too.

IMHO, while ETH is most profitable now, nearing POS by 2018, will ZEC will have a longer life?

ZEC at 64 bucks now may get several boost higher towards ETH pos.

And we know ZEC have tried $ price levels even higher than 1000 bucks before.

With BTC drama on Segwit vs BU, the pressure to position a likely successor may well be ZEC.

If ZEC benefits from above.... I think its worth while exploring and investing in a NVIDIA ZEC monster rig.

I have a rig of 1070s at 500 sols they will be using too much power, you can do a 70% power limite and mine at 460 sols for 85 watt per card best setting i found.  1070s are just too expensive thoufg

could you link  to the card you use.

the one below is close to 390 usd with shipping

https://jet.com/product/EVGA-GeForce-GTX-1070-GAMING-ACX-30-8GB-GDDR5-08G-P4-6171-KR/3e0775c2927b4d768f61eecbc9530d08



this one which matchs my msi rx 480's is 399 after rebate
https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814127955&ignorebbr=1&cm_re=nvidia_1070-_-14-127-955-_-Product


this one  I have some best buy coupons


http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-xlr8-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1070-8gb-gddr5-pci-express-3-0-graphics-card-black-red/5656049.p?skuId=5656049


it is 409  but I could get over  100 discount so 300 and say 28 tax = 328 to 340

The current AMD cards that can do 440-470 plus sols/s are R9 Nano, Fury X, Fury X+

The key thing about these range of cards is HBM memory.

If Vega/RX5XX cards do come with HBM then we may have AMD cards that tops 1080s or 1070s, at least for ZEC mining.

Do note that pricing wise, R9 Nanos, Fury X etc... although expensive still -- it is cheaper than 1080s or 1070s

However, as per discussed when Vega comes out, NVIDIA will push out the 1080ti to overtake AMD again...

[generalt]

The current AMD cards that can do 440-470 plus sols/s are R9 Nano, Fury X, Fury X+

The key thing about these range of cards is HBM memory.

If Vega/RX5XX cards do come with HBM then we may have AMD cards that tops 1080s or 1070s, at least for ZEC mining.

Do note that pricing wise, R9 Nanos, Fury X etc... although expensive still -- it is cheaper than 1080s or 1070s

However, as per discussed when Vega comes out, NVIDIA will push out the 1080ti to overtake AMD again...

I believe that the 1080ti is out already if I am not mistaken.

Other than Coinbase what other reputable site will convert BTC to USD for you?  I feel I need to diversify a little.

[philipma1957]

The current AMD cards that can do 440-470 plus sols/s are R9 Nano, Fury X, Fury X+

The key thing about these range of cards is HBM memory.

If Vega/RX5XX cards do come with HBM then we may have AMD cards that tops 1080s or 1070s, at least for ZEC mining.

Do note that pricing wise, R9 Nanos, Fury X etc... although expensive still -- it is cheaper than 1080s or 1070s

However, as per discussed when Vega comes out, NVIDIA will push out the 1080ti to overtake AMD again...

I believe that the 1080ti is out already if I am not mistaken.

Other than Coinbase what other reputable site will convert BTC to USD for you?  I feel I need to diversify a little.

Not sure and I need a USA based site.  I would like to feel safe  coinbase is insured  and I have 3 to 10 coins in it.

Any usa site with real Insurance?

[rawbert]

hoping to set one up and demo it. for all.

oh these came in today

http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/radeon-rx400-series
$199.99 no tax free shipping i used paypal 6 months to pay
giving me about 24.2 mh
all my other cards do about 26.1

What kind of RAM these diamond ref cards come with Phil?

I don't bother to look as I don't flash

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Would you please look if you get a chance?
I want to buy a few of these I just want to make sure it doesn't have Elpida ram so I can use the 29MH LowEnergy rom on it.
TIA

[philipma1957]

hoping to set one up and demo it. for all.

oh these came in today

http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/radeon-rx400-series
$199.99 no tax free shipping i used paypal 6 months to pay
giving me about 24.2 mh
all my other cards do about 26.1

What kind of RAM these diamond ref cards come with Phil?

I don't bother to look as I don't flash

Would you please look if you get a chance?
I want to buy a few of these I just want to make sure it doesn't have Elpida ram so I can use the 29MH LowEnergy rom on it.
TIA
[/quote]

Okay  I have all on smOS
I don't know how to check on smOS

I need to pull one and put it on a windows  to use gpu-z  to check.

Maybe later tonight.

I suspect it does as it does not clock anywhere near to the asus strix or the msi gamer