Third alt coin thread last two were too big. Builds links thoughts etc

[philipma1957]

Thanks Phil for the "beta" info. I must have been blind... new to SM ...
Unfortunately, it didnt solve my issue.

Okay  lets try this.

Do 1 card see if it works with no 4mh bug
Do 2 cards see if both work with no 4mh bug
Do 3 cards see if they all work with no 4mh bug
Do 4 cards see if they all work with no 4mh bug

I assume you are doing eth or zec

Zec is hot I am doing zec and nicehash as a way to get cheap btc

try  optiminer-zec v1.7   at nicehash

this is my setup

-s equihash.usa.nicehash.com:3357 -u 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.simple1 -p x

you would be

-s equihash.eu.nicehash.com:3357 -u your btc addy.worker1 -p x

my mining of zec on nicehash

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[citronick]

MARKET CAP IS WELL UNDER 80 MILLION!

Look at cap 64 million Look at volume 25 million

Serious  price support at the moment.

This fits my  list of pc parts company idea very well.

Also look at small amount of coins 898,000

All these factors allow  the major parts companies to  boost the coins price with ease which encourages us to buy gear to mine.
It also directly attacks BTC  asic builders like bitmaintech.
This a Very interesting development in the cryptocoin world
which I have been pointing out for about a year that this could happen.

What makes for interest is that  if a coin like ZEC or ETH fails due to a hack.
A new al-gore-rythm should pop up to replace it. SINCE pc parts companies would all benefit
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ZEC is so primed to replace BTC if BTC doesn't get their act together.

Its a matter of time -- ZEC has better anonymity, scalable and GPU minable.

Pandaminers could be the closest to "asics-like" device for ZEC.

XMR and DASH will have good chance too, but not as promising as ZEC - the charts are showing it.

ZEC $100 and beyond... here we come !! - It's good to be a GPU miner.

[vg54dett]

Thanks Phil , following your troobleshooting advice, I found that my 2 first pci 16x slots are faulty. Even with only one GPU on the pci slot , I got 4mh.
But If I move the gpu on another slot , it works properly.
I don't know why.

That's only 3 on the 5 slot that are working (it's Evga Z170 FTW).

I'll have to dig deeper.
First try windows again to see if the MB is damaged or if it's only SM linked.

[philipma1957]

I made this list up below on a locked thread.

Add

AMD
INTEL
NVIDIA

and zec  looks like it has backing.

ZEC HAS a small market cap with few coins very easy to boost or support its price level



Here are screenshots of the companies that want gpu mining to work since it makes sales for them.


Ram companies








Graphic card companies


MotherBoard Companies



Case Companies



PSU COMPANIES

[azgal0r]

For some reason I have never liked ZEC it just looks as a worse monero to me. The shielded adresses are good but who uses them ? You can't use it on pools, exchanges don't use it either for performance issues so whats the point ? Monero has more or less all that built-in directly and by default. Don't get me wrong I like the underlying scientific work they are doing with this coin. Also I was looking for a windows wallet and couldnt find one which is weird ! Even pascal coin has one.

Now I understand the coin is hot AF atm but I highly doubt it will hold its value mid term. Also why constructor would support a particular coin rather than another ? There's no doubt hardware manufacturer are watching the altcoin mining closely but why ZEC in particular ?

[philipma1957]

For some reason I have never liked ZEC it just looks as a worse monero to me. The shielded adresses are good but who uses them ? You can't use it on pools, exchanges don't use it either for performance issues so whats the point ? Monero has more or less all that built-in directly and by default. Don't get me wrong I like the underlying scientific work they are doing with this coin. Also I was looking for a windows wallet and couldnt find one which is weird ! Even pascal coin has one.

Now I understand the coin is hot AF atm but I highly doubt it will hold its value mid term. Also why constructor would support a particular coin rather than another ? There's no doubt hardware manufacturer are watching the altcoin mining closely but why ZEC in particular ?

It was designed to start without a lot of pre-mining    so the actual coins available are small  about 900,000

with a cap of about  70,000,000 it does not need much  cash into it to prop prices.

http://coinmarketcap.com/

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[rawbert]

For some reason I have never liked ZEC it just looks as a worse monero to me. The shielded adresses are good but who uses them ? You can't use it on pools, exchanges don't use it either for performance issues so whats the point ? Monero has more or less all that built-in directly and by default. Don't get me wrong I like the underlying scientific work they are doing with this coin. Also I was looking for a windows wallet and couldnt find one which is weird ! Even pascal coin has one.

Now I understand the coin is hot AF atm but I highly doubt it will hold its value mid term. Also why constructor would support a particular coin rather than another ? There's no doubt hardware manufacturer are watching the altcoin mining closely but why ZEC in particular ?

Here's the Windows wallet: https://zcash4win.com

[deadsix]

Can I urge people to remove the 5-6 full page images in every single quoted reply? Its getting pretty tiring to scroll through page after page with quoted images that aren't even needed.

[citronick]

Can I urge people to remove the 5-6 full page images in every single quoted reply? Its getting pretty tiring to scroll through page after page with quoted images that aren't even needed.

apply your "<snipped>" generously

[philipma1957]

So all these companies and a few you missed  simply buy some coins  and prop up price.

I see they  spent 25 million  early in Sat-Sun

Now they spent 13 million trading.   So Zec drops a bit  but  the end result is  a cheaper when to mine BTC  then buying Asics from BitFury or Avalon or Bitmain!

Phil  this looks like a solid idea on your part.


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deleted the post  as the list does not need repeating.

This idea of mine has been proposed by me  before ZEC was around I said that companies were doing ETH.
AND I proposed that a coin would be created to replace ETH  for this purpose  OF SELLING PC GEAR and boom along came ZEC.

There will be new coins  if and when needed.  Since they sell gear.

[citronick]

I am posting this for sharing because I think it will impact all of us since Bitcoin is in the centrestage of all of our alts mining activities now. I am posting my comments only here in Phil's thread because self-moderates the thread....

Just came back from a Bitcoin local chapter talk with guest speaker Andreas Antonopoulos, and lo and behold Vitalik Buterin in the audience. I wanted to ask about the Segwit vs BU issue in Q&A, and well I didnt have to -- Andreas jump straight into it.

Very interesting talk about cultural gap between software mindset vs hardware mindset -- hence this battle between Segwit and BU, how Bitcoin is going to survive a hard fork and the emergence of a new platform that comverge software and hardware and maintains the glory of decentralization, ie. Trustware.

The video of the talk should be up in Andreas's Youtube channel in a few hours.

My team had a meeting after the talk and we decided on some contingencies, pending Segwit vs BU bloodbath around "a few weeks before October". We will be investing more on GPU mining and Ethereum. Btw, will move the 2PH BTC farm into rental market before the war starts. When things gets risky and volatile, it's better to rent, sell the picks and shovels to goldminers than to mine the gold yourself - think Levis Strauss.

OK - thats enough yadda2 for the day. Watch the video and make your own decisions.

[philipma1957]

I am posting this for sharing because I think it will impact all of us since Bitcoin is in the centrestage of all of our alts mining activities now. I am posting my comments only here in Phil's thread because self-moderates the thread....

Just came back from a Bitcoin local chapter talk with guest speaker Andreas Antonopoulos, and lo and behold Vitalik Buterin in the audience. I wanted to ask about the Segwit vs BU issue in Q&A, and well I didnt have to -- Andreas jump straight into it.

Very interesting talk about cultural gap between software mindset vs hardware mindset -- hence this battle between Segwit and BU, how Bitcoin is going to survive a hard fork and the emergence of a new platform that comverge software and hardware and maintains the glory of decentralization, ie. Trustware.

The video of the talk should be up in Andreas's Youtube channel in a few hours.

My team had a meeting after the talk and we decided on some contingencies, pending Segwit vs BU bloodbath around "a few weeks before October". We will be investing more on GPU mining and Ethereum. Btw, will move the 2PH BTC farm into rental market before the war starts. When things gets risky and volatile, it's better to rent, sell the picks and shovels to goldminers than to mine the gold yourself - think Levis Strauss.

OK - thats enough yadda2 for the day. Watch the video and make your own decisions.

link to video please.

My suggestion to all is balance your portfolio.

look at the math for today 1 pandaminer on eth pointed at nicehash
uses  1100 watts  and earns 0.023 btc

3 ½ s-9s pointed at f2pool  does 44 th uses 4500 watts earns 0.023 btc

not to mention

 1 used  pandaminer can be had for about 2200 usd from me

and 3 ½ s-9s  are more then 5000 usd [/b]  plus  the psus for the panda vs the 3 ½ s-9s is another 250 more for the s-9's

The swing to the pandaminer being the better deal at this moment is amazing.

What really amazes me is no one has said phil  sell me that pandaminer

(FUD is a mofo)

Maybe, but that won't stop me from trying. Change in favor of the little people is why I started working in the bitcoin economy over three years ago. Some people are worth not being completely ignored by everyone in the world.

yeah  I use the sticks for fun I hit a PPC block with

them.

I look forward to some more efficient models.

At the moment  BTC  is in trouble.  but there is a lot of $$ invested in it.  I am sure it will do better.

I mine my eth directly into btc  as I prefer btc. I use nicehash

But asic mining of btc is in trouble.

look at this rig the pandaminer.  it is far better then the s-9

I point it at nicehash  i get about 0.02368 btc per day using about 1050 watts

I need 44 th of sha256
 or 3 ½ s-9s to earn 0.02368 btc per day

and that is 4500 watts

this math is what it is and is causing price adjustment in coins.

So at the moment my btc is cheap  via  eth mining

[AriesIV10]

Armor is getting hotter than Gaming.
ROG should be decent but expensive usually.

The rog is not as expensive as the msi gaming, its about 5$ more than the armor but still 15$ less than the gaming

For mining, temps will be your worst nightmare, so consider good reputable fan/cooling solutions from Asus Strixx or MSI Twin-Frozz- very good actually -- my favorites. See Philip's rigs - I think he did review of these brands for RX cards too.

I have tried many different GPUs and have found the MSI RX470 Gaming X to be the most efficient, quiet, cool GPU on the market.  The strapping is also very easy to get the most out of this GPU.

[philipma1957]

Armor is getting hotter than Gaming.
ROG should be decent but expensive usually.

The rog is not as expensive as the msi gaming, its about 5$ more than the armor but still 15$ less than the gaming

For mining, temps will be your worst nightmare, so consider good reputable fan/cooling solutions from Asus Strixx or MSI Twin-Frozz- very good actually -- my favorites. See Philip's rigs - I think he did review of these brands for RX cards too.

I have tried many different GPUs and have found the MSI RX470 Gaming X to be the most efficient, quiet, cool GPU on the market.  The strapping is also very easy to get the most out of this GPU.

there is something to be said  for this gpu

http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/radeon-rx400-series


it is loud it is a bit hot but the price is good  for a rx 480 8gb card. 199.99 with free shipping

don't flash bios  just use smOS  set  at

 1025  core
 2100 mem
 2      powerstage

[AriesIV10]

Armor is getting hotter than Gaming.
ROG should be decent but expensive usually.

The rog is not as expensive as the msi gaming, its about 5$ more than the armor but still 15$ less than the gaming

For mining, temps will be your worst nightmare, so consider good reputable fan/cooling solutions from Asus Strixx or MSI Twin-Frozz- very good actually -- my favorites. See Philip's rigs - I think he did review of these brands for RX cards too.

I have tried many different GPUs and have found the MSI RX470 Gaming X to be the most efficient, quiet, cool GPU on the market.  The strapping is also very easy to get the most out of this GPU.

there is something to be said  for this gpu

http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/radeon-rx400-series


it is loud it is a bit hot but the price is good  for a rx 480 8gb card. 199.99 with free shipping

don't flash bios  just use smOS  set  at

 1025  core
 2100 mem
 2      powerstage

That is an INCREDIBLE price! 

[vg54dett]

Thanks Citronick for the feedback !

My team had a meeting after the talk and we decided on some contingencies, pending Segwit vs BU bloodbath around "a few weeks before October". We will be investing more on GPU mining and Ethereum.

More GPUs ? what will you choose to expand now ?

Btw, will move the 2PH BTC farm into rental market before the war starts. When things gets risky and volatile, it's better to rent, sell the picks and shovels to goldminers than to mine the gold yourself

Nicehash , or something else ?

[vg54dett]

Phil , did you fix the Decred to NH issue ? or just satyed with Eth only ?

Another point : do someone know if SimpleMining can handle 7 GPUs with MSI Gaming5 ?

[citronick]

Thanks Citronick for the feedback !

My team had a meeting after the talk and we decided on some contingencies, pending Segwit vs BU bloodbath around "a few weeks before October". We will be investing more on GPU mining and Ethereum.

More GPUs ? what will you choose to expand now ?

Btw, will move the 2PH BTC farm into rental market before the war starts. When things gets risky and volatile, it's better to rent, sell the picks and shovels to goldminers than to mine the gold yourself

Nicehash , or something else ?

During the talk, Andreas spoke about the possible 51% attack -- reading between the lines without too much detail I think he was referring to an example .... the ETH fork not too long ago and how the ETC supporters bought all available Dagger-Hashimoto hash from NH at premium and throw hash at the ETC network to catchup with ETH network.... Vitalik was in the audience and ... Andreas didn't go any further on that discussion - but yes, I get him, I think when push comes to shove BU supporters will probably raid all available SHA256 hash for rent from NH to overtake SegWit fork. So when that happens, I dont mind selling my hash at premium. Call me opportunistic but WTH man... I am really sad if BTC comes to this stage.

According to Andreas, if the 51% attack happens -- there is only a "7 block" advantage and.. guess who has the hashing power stashed away in the Mongolian desert.

GPU mining.... hmmmm.... I think we are looking at a new "Trustware" platform, and it will certainly be GPU minable because software+hardware convergence although will be fair for all (and as predicted by Phil... so many hardware vendors will benefit vs only Bitmaintech profits).... it will not repeat the BTC's case of Bitmaintech dominating ASICs hardware. This is just my opinion. I am taking a big bet on ETH mining since, adoption by major exchanges and Coinbase already favors ETH. So I think ETH is safe haven for now at least short term until POS in 2018. I wonder is  ETH is the benchmark of a "Trustware".

[citronick]

Armor is getting hotter than Gaming.
ROG should be decent but expensive usually.

The rog is not as expensive as the msi gaming, its about 5$ more than the armor but still 15$ less than the gaming

For mining, temps will be your worst nightmare, so consider good reputable fan/cooling solutions from Asus Strixx or MSI Twin-Frozz- very good actually -- my favorites. See Philip's rigs - I think he did review of these brands for RX cards too.

I have tried many different GPUs and have found the MSI RX470 Gaming X to be the most efficient, quiet, cool GPU on the market.  The strapping is also very easy to get the most out of this GPU.

there is something to be said  for this gpu

http://www.diamondmultimediastore.com/radeon-rx400-series


it is loud it is a bit hot but the price is good  for a rx 480 8gb card. 199.99 with free shipping

don't flash bios  just use smOS  set  at

 1025  core
 2100 mem
 2      powerstage

That is an INCREDIBLE price! 

I wonder if there will be a firesale of 480s, 470s when 5XX Vega series comes out.

I sure hope AMD doesnt do a 290/390 trick again..... selling basically a 480 with some memory upgrade and rebadging it as new 580 series Vega.

[philipma1957]

Phil , did you fix the Decred to NH issue ? or just satyed with Eth only ?

Another point : do someone know if SimpleMining can handle 7 GPUs with MSI Gaming5 ?

sure it handles the pandaminer with 8


I gave up on decred but  and a big but  my gpus don't stress on eth alone

3000 watts earning quite well 1.8 btc per month

30th  of s-9 earns 0.4758 btc     so almost 4x the btc for the same power