Third alt coin thread last two were too big. Builds links thoughts etc

[philipma1957]

Talking of alts.

You might want to look at Golem, it is a ethereum token but the idea is to build a super computer network that anyone can use.  The final product is about 4 years out but if it takes off down the line could easily end up being a millionaire.   I joined the alpha testing on the slack and the proof of concept does work.  Whats not awesome is the team holds 18% of the coins and that seems a bit scammy, considering theres no reason for that when they raised 7 million in the pre-sale.

All alts are suffering pretty hard right now with bitcoin going all crazy.  Did china unlock their funds or something?

Make sure you are in both camps.

Btc should move close to 1500 usd

I am currently 30%-40% BTC, 20% ETH and 50%-40% to cash.

All my rigs are mining ZEC at NH getting back BTC.

All my S9 and A7 BTC farms are doing PPS+ at Antpool and VIABTC.

I think there is a big movement of ETH and DCR back to BTC.

Made money on XRP frenzy but I think I sold too early, ohhh well..... there is no such thing as a bad profit.

Do you support BU by mining at those two pools?

Honestly at this rate, if the core team doesn't fixed the mess soon, I wouldn't blame the BU supporters for pushing forward with this fork on behalf of the mining community.

Sad to see BTC coming to this stage - on the other hand, BTC post fork if any, will be tried and tested even more.... hopefully a stronger BTC.

Segwit vs BU..... I had a change in perspective after listening to Andreas Antonopolous talk recently.

Decide for yourself...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etyjc1JdmFU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlJG4OHdJzs

Phil - the video links of the recent talk as above - several links in parts but this one above goes straight into the fork issue.

Watched first link.  I get that  if he does what he wants it will not be BTC  it will be a new beast.

Not sure that is a good idea.  Seems very risky to alter fundamentals of BTC that much.
Simple solution was to go from 1mb to 2mb at the ½ ing last July  buying time to allow for growth of industry.

That ship sailed.

Coins have gone up a bit  after watching it I am selling more coins and moving to cash.

And done 1 less coin  sold it for 1115 after fees.

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[sana54210]

Talking of alts.

You might want to look at Golem, it is a ethereum token but the idea is to build a super computer network that anyone can use.  The final product is about 4 years out but if it takes off down the line could easily end up being a millionaire.   I joined the alpha testing on the slack and the proof of concept does work.  Whats not awesome is the team holds 18% of the coins and that seems a bit scammy, considering theres no reason for that when they raised 7 million in the pre-sale.

All alts are suffering pretty hard right now with bitcoin going all crazy.  Did china unlock their funds or something?

Make sure you are in both camps.

Btc should move close to 1500 usd

I am currently 30%-40% BTC, 20% ETH and 50%-40% to cash.

All my rigs are mining ZEC at NH getting back BTC.

All my S9 and A7 BTC farms are doing PPS+ at Antpool and VIABTC.

I think there is a big movement of ETH and DCR back to BTC.

Made money on XRP frenzy but I think I sold too early, ohhh well..... there is no such thing as a bad profit.

Do you support BU by mining at those two pools?

Honestly at this rate, if the core team doesn't fixed the mess soon, I wouldn't blame the BU supporters for pushing forward with this fork on behalf of the mining community.

Sad to see BTC coming to this stage - on the other hand, BTC post fork if any, will be tried and tested even more.... hopefully a stronger BTC.

Segwit vs BU..... I had a change in perspective after listening to Andreas Antonopolous talk recently.

Decide for yourself...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Etyjc1JdmFU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dlJG4OHdJzs

Phil - the video links of the recent talk as above - several links in parts but this one above goes straight into the fork issue.

You don’t have to select a side, to be honest with you I just know the main issue and both sides solution to the problem. I don’t do anything about it, I don’t advocate anyone, I just do my job.

If you do not have a huge mining power than I don’t think you need to select a side. As a miner, do what you want and get your Money. Rest is upto people who debate it. That is me tough, anyone can do whatever they want, that is the beauty of btc.

[citronick]

Big in Japan....

https://news.bitcoin.com/bitcoin-accepted-260000-stores-summer/

After Japan banks getting into Ripple (XRP) blockchain project recently....

These 2 big news alone will IMHO, push BTC to 1500$ in no time.

Guys, get ready and prepare to time your coin sell at potentially higher return.

My rigs will remain at Nicehash and collect BTC upfront.

With exception of ETH, I think its better now to mine sell hash ZEC or XMR directly at NH marketplace and get BTC directly.

[philipma1957]

got the first nvidia rig going today.

don't know what I am doing but  I am running 1 zotac mini 1080 card

mining zec on nicehash








temps are good

I lowered core raised memory

getting 480  on screen and nicehash floats from 450-525

[citronick]

@phil.... congrats on the 1080!

Try EWBF or Excavator.... amazing sols, some can get 550-600sols

Unconfirmed news just in.... LTC just passed 70% segwit... looks like more miners with be online soon.

[philipma1957]

@phil.... congrats on the 1080!

Try EWBF or Excavator.... amazing sols, some can get 550-600sols

Unconfirmed news just in.... LTC just passed 70% segwit... looks like more miners with be online soon.

Using EWBF  3.3b

looking for cool running and max hash to watt


not max hash.

I can get 480-520h  with cool temps  and 60% fan setting.

nice small card.

I have 2 1080ti's  one on fri one on sat

this 3 card rig  will be running like a 6 or 7 card rx 480 8gb rig.

Since all my gear is paid off with the exception of the two 1080ti's and one 1080

I face some easy decisions for a change.  I just need zec to hang in there for 40 days.  And then all my nvidia are paid off.

[citronick]

@phil.... congrats on the 1080!

Try EWBF or Excavator.... amazing sols, some can get 550-600sols

Unconfirmed news just in.... LTC just passed 70% segwit... looks like more miners with be online soon.

Using EWBF  3.3b

looking for cool running and max hash to watt


not max hash.

I can get 480-520h  with cool temps  and 60% fan setting.

nice small card.

I have 2 1080ti's  one on fri one on sat

this 3 card rig  will be running like a 6 or 7 card rx 480 8gb rig.

Yes, a buddy of mine who is a NVIDIA fanboy, has 4 x 1080 rig and the total sols is more than the Panda B1.

If you can find cheap 1080s, 4 x 1080 maybe same as 7 or 8 x 480s

But.... 1080s consume less energy? Have you rated the power and amps yet?

Btw, there is a 1080Ti (which is a twin 1080 fused on a single card)... maybe the Biostar GT7 can house 2 x 1080Tis with good spacing (slots 0 and 2)... that would be a perfect ZEC rig.

[xleejohnx]

@phil.... congrats on the 1080!

Try EWBF or Excavator.... amazing sols, some can get 550-600sols

Unconfirmed news just in.... LTC just passed 70% segwit... looks like more miners with be online soon.

Ore miners for ltc or the ltc moving to other alts?

[Biodom]

@phil.... congrats on the 1080!

Try EWBF or Excavator.... amazing sols, some can get 550-600sols

Unconfirmed news just in.... LTC just passed 70% segwit... looks like more miners with be online soon.

Since all my gear is paid off with the exception of the two 1080ti's and one 1080

I face some easy decisions for a change.  I just need zec to hang in there for 40 days.  And then all my nvidia are paid off.

Re segwit...litecoin shows the way...approve segwit and get btc that is AT LEAST 2-2.5 times higher aka 2.5-3K IF BTC follows LTC.
LTC went from $4 to almost $10 as soon as LTC got poised for segwit activation and btc went down when BU was gaining fast.
Plus, stringing 1mb to 2 to 4 to 8 sounds too simple of a solution in a long run.

RE 1080. 40days? maybe if you use coupons? I get 5 mo before electricity.
I am actually thinking of buying at least as much zec as i mine.
In any case, maybe i should also go for a couple of 1070 or 1080, depending on how upcoming RX 500 will look like in eth and zec.

[citronick]

@phil.... congrats on the 1080!

Try EWBF or Excavator.... amazing sols, some can get 550-600sols

Unconfirmed news just in.... LTC just passed 70% segwit... looks like more miners with be online soon.

Ore miners for ltc or the ltc moving to other alts?

Those Bitmain L3 LTC ASICs will be going off the shelf real fast soon....

LTC is all ASICs mining ... I don't think GPUs will have a chance.

My group has 6 x A4 Innosilicon pointed at Nicehash and it's currently paying close to 0.1 BTC per day.

L3 is cheaper and use less watts.


@Phil, can you test 2 x 1080ti on the Biostar Z170-GT7, and see the powerdraw and amps?
If a 2x1080ti rig is around 1000watts and less than 10amps, I can easily put 2 rigs per 20amp circuit.

@Biodom, reading from ZEC thread, seems NVIDIA cards very good for ZEC but not so for ETH and others. However, my NVIDIA buddy was saying that he can also get fantastic results for cgminer/DCR on the 1080s. Other than those reasons, I think if ZEC can stay on at this price levels in 2017..... we should be be at ROI quickly (at least quicker than those damn S9s)

[citronick]

Talking of alts.

You might want to look at Golem, it is a ethereum token but the idea is to build a super computer network that anyone can use.  The final product is about 4 years out but if it takes off down the line could easily end up being a millionaire.   I joined the alpha testing on the slack and the proof of concept does work.  Whats not awesome is the team holds 18% of the coins and that seems a bit scammy, considering theres no reason for that when they raised 7 million in the pre-sale.

All alts are suffering pretty hard right now with bitcoin going all crazy.  Did china unlock their funds or something?

I had some spare BTCs, not a lot, about 0.25 and ... had a strange hunch.... and bought Golem at Poloniex after reading your post.

It's currently now valued 0.3868.

Thanks for the tips Tmdz.

[Biodom]

is ASUS Z170 pro gaming LGA 1151 any good?
4 slots is OK for my purposes.

[philipma1957]

is ASUS Z170 pro gaming LGA 1151 any good?
4 slots is OK for my purposes.

I had one asus z170-a  i did four cards with it.


it was okay


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132566



how do I mine lbry?

what miner?

I want to compare to the zec I am doing with the 1080



@citronick

my 1080ti's come on fri and sat. I will check watts for you.

[citronick]

is ASUS Z170 pro gaming LGA 1151 any good?
4 slots is OK for my purposes.

I had one asus z170-a  i did four cards with it.


it was okay


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132566



how do I mine lbry?

what miner?

I want to compare to the zec I am doing with the 1080



@citronick

my 1080ti's come on fri and sat. I will check watts for you.

thanks Phil - looking forward to build my first NVIDIA ZEC rig - my buddy claims that it will eat less watts...

LBRY, try cgminer.... a number of cgminer forks out there for NVIDIA.

If you download the Nicehash Windows miner, go the the bin folder.... there's all the sgminer, cgminer versions for every algo you can think off.

[xleejohnx]

is ASUS Z170 pro gaming LGA 1151 any good?
4 slots is OK for my purposes.

I had one asus z170-a  i did four cards with it.


it was okay


https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813132566



how do I mine lbry?

what miner?

I want to compare to the zec I am doing with the 1080



@citronick

my 1080ti's come on fri and sat. I will check watts for you.

Lbry is almost 1$ more a day over zec ATM
Cgminer is going to be the best bet
groestlcoin is even more than that over lbry an zec

[vg54dett]

@phil.... congrats on the 1080!

Try EWBF or Excavator.... amazing sols, some can get 550-600sols

Unconfirmed news just in.... LTC just passed 70% segwit... looks like more miners with be online soon.

Using EWBF  3.3b

looking for cool running and max hash to watt


not max hash.

I can get 480-520h  with cool temps  and 60% fan setting.

nice small card.

I have 2 1080ti's  one on fri one on sat

this 3 card rig  will be running like a 6 or 7 card rx 480 8gb rig.

Since all my gear is paid off with the exception of the two 1080ti's and one 1080

I face some easy decisions for a change.  I just need zec to hang in there for 40 days.  And then all my nvidia are paid off.

What prices did you get for the 1080 and the 1080TIs ?

They seems very expensive.

And I don't understand how you would be able to ROI in 40 days

[philipma1957]

@phil.... congrats on the 1080!

Try EWBF or Excavator.... amazing sols, some can get 550-600sols

Unconfirmed news just in.... LTC just passed 70% segwit... looks like more miners with be online soon.

Using EWBF  3.3b

looking for cool running and max hash to watt


not max hash.

I can get 480-520h  with cool temps  and 60% fan setting.

nice small card.

I have 2 1080ti's  one on fri one on sat

this 3 card rig  will be running like a 6 or 7 card rx 480 8gb rig.

Since all my gear is paid off with the exception of the two 1080ti's and one 1080

I face some easy decisions for a change.  I just need zec to hang in there for 40 days.  And then all my nvidia are paid off.

What prices did you get for the 1080 and the 1080TIs ?

They seems very expensive.

And I don't understand how you would be able to ROI in 40 days

every thing is paid for except the  3 nvidia cards

 the cards add to 1660 usd as I had a lot of ebucks
 and other credits.

all my cards are earning  over 50  a day   50 x 40 = 2000.

I am looking at all gpu rigs  i.e. 18 other cards doing 5200 h

and 3 nvidia doing 1700 h

so 6900h  and 1660 in the hole I get out in 40 days.

yeah you can say  but phil  you were at 5200h with 0 debt

just count  the  new 1700h and the 1660 debt.

by that count  it is more then 40 days.

Since I sell cards often once I roi. My accounting is different.
in 40 days  every card is paid off.

18 rx 480 8gb's
2 nvidia 1080 ti
1 nvidia   1080

all paid off leaving me able to sell  my cards at low prices   since it will be all profit.

This is how I sell used cards cheaply.  Come may 15th  I can sell at bargain prices.

 If I sell the rx 480's at 175 each that = 175 x 18 or 3150 profit.  

Still leaving me the 3 nvidia  until august. they pull the least power and will be all I use in house for the summer.

[citronick]

@phil.... congrats on the 1080!

Try EWBF or Excavator.... amazing sols, some can get 550-600sols

Unconfirmed news just in.... LTC just passed 70% segwit... looks like more miners with be online soon.

Using EWBF  3.3b

looking for cool running and max hash to watt


not max hash.

I can get 480-520h  with cool temps  and 60% fan setting.

nice small card.

I have 2 1080ti's  one on fri one on sat

this 3 card rig  will be running like a 6 or 7 card rx 480 8gb rig.

Since all my gear is paid off with the exception of the two 1080ti's and one 1080

I face some easy decisions for a change.  I just need zec to hang in there for 40 days.  And then all my nvidia are paid off.

What prices did you get for the 1080 and the 1080TIs ?

They seems very expensive.

And I don't understand how you would be able to ROI in 40 days

NVIDIA 1080 around 500-600$, 1080Ti around 800$-above

Its expensive, that's how it is in the AMD vs NVIDIA world.... but if its a powersaver with a higher hash per card.... I think price will justify itself, because if this hits the nice sweetspot in $/power/hash ratio.... 2 x 1080Ti may well be equivalent to a 7-8x480 rig ... at least for ZEC mining. Can't wait for Phils weekend review.

[JaredKaragen]

The 1080's on Craigslist have been popping up like mad recently.  My friend returned some of his store bought cards to buy the cheaper ones.

We are loving the power coming from 1080 machines.   Quite a large amount of hashrate density.

[citronick]

The 1080's on Craigslist have been popping up like mad recently.  My friend returned some of his store bought cards to buy the cheaper ones.

We are loving the power coming from 1080 machines.   Quite a large amount of hashrate density.

Perhaps with the 1080Ti positioned starting at 800$....

Many 1080 owners will be going for that price point and selling off their 1080s.

It will be a nice to pickup cheap 1080s for a ZEC rig.

I think AMD has been checked mated by NVIDIA before the RX500 launch.....

@JK... do you know what are the actual powerdraws from a 1080?