Third alt coin thread last two were too big. Builds links thoughts etc

[philipma1957]

Do you guys have heard explainations about the recent surge in ETH and some cryptos prices ? Like Dash and Zcash.

I know we are many to wait the SEC position and it impact BTC price , but what about the cryptos rising ? they are pushed by BTC ? or is there any good news about them explaining that growth ?

I listen to a you-tuber named "crypt0". He produces videos concerning BTC, ETH, and other alts.  A little rough around the edges but he lets me know what's current. Here is a video concerning ZEC and ZCL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DcqrLBjyEM

I think a ton of new money is entering into the crypto-currency space and it is landing in multiple spot as a hedge

Also  remember that 

AMD
NVIDIA
INTEL
Biostar
gigabyte
asus
evga
seasonic
corsair


and many real companies  stand to sell a shit ton of gear.


https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/zcash/



zcash market cap is 31.5 million

to the companies above  that is like 1000 bucks to me.

they can effectively boost the price of zec  to a level where you would buy a rig or rig parts from them.

think of it as a commercial or a rebate .

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[citronick]

at a glance:


BTC $1232

ETH $18.71

DASH $57.11

ZEC $41.10

XMR $12.63

LTC $3.85

* ASICs mining = BTC (Canaan/Avalon, Bitmain), DASH (Baikal, Pinidea, etc), LTC (Innosilicon, Bitmain, etc)

The rest like ETH, ZEC, XMR... see list by Philip below.

All of these guys will stand to sell a shit ton of gear

[vg54dett]

Do you guys have heard explainations about the recent surge in ETH and some cryptos prices ? Like Dash and Zcash.

I know we are many to wait the SEC position and it impact BTC price , but what about the cryptos rising ? they are pushed by BTC ? or is there any good news about them explaining that growth ?

I listen to a you-tuber named "crypt0". He produces videos concerning BTC, ETH, and other alts.  A little rough around the edges but he lets me know what's current. Here is a video concerning ZEC and ZCL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DcqrLBjyEM

I think a ton of new money is entering into the crypto-currency space and it is landing in multiple spot as a hedge

would you be kind enough to sum up the video as I am very curious about it but not able to watch it for now.

[LoneRangir]

Do you guys have heard explainations about the recent surge in ETH and some cryptos prices ? Like Dash and Zcash.

I know we are many to wait the SEC position and it impact BTC price , but what about the cryptos rising ? they are pushed by BTC ? or is there any good news about them explaining that growth ?

I listen to a you-tuber named "crypt0". He produces videos concerning BTC, ETH, and other alts.  A little rough around the edges but he lets me know what's current. Here is a video concerning ZEC and ZCL.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-DcqrLBjyEM

I think a ton of new money is entering into the crypto-currency space and it is landing in multiple spot as a hedge

would you be kind enough to sum up the video as I am very curious about it but not able to watch it for now.

ZCL is private transactions, no 20℅ "tax" with respect to the dev fee vs. ZEC. He's speculating that ZCL could grow to be similar in market cap as ZEC. If you like ZEC, there's little reason to not love ZCL

[citronick]

Hi Phil....

ETH + DCR I think is better deal than ETH + pascal, for dual mining.

DCR is $2 a pop and currently HOT

Pascal.... I still not convinced of this coin though .... at $0.162 per Pascal, I think your extra watts for dual mining better on the $2 coin.

I would do ethpool for ETH, and config to sell DCR hash at Nicehash because they are paying 1839% above PPS.

-epool -epool us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal <yourETHaddress>.$rigName  -epsw x  -dpool  stratum+tcp://decred.usa.nicehash.com:3354 -dwal <yourBTCaddress>.$rigName -esm 0 -allpools 1 -estale 0 -dbg -1 -wd 1 -r 1 -ethi 5 -dcri 15 -dcoin decred

[philipma1957]

Hi Phil....

ETH + DCR I think is better deal than ETH + pascal, for dual mining.

DCR is $2 a pop and currently HOT

Pascal.... I still not convinced of this coin though .... at $0.162 per Pascal, I think your extra watts for dual mining better on the $2 coin.

I would do ethpool for ETH, and config to sell DCR hash at Nicehash because they are paying 1839% above PPS.

-epool -epool us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal <yourETHaddress>.$rigName  -epsw x  -dpool  stratum+tcp://<yourBTCaddress>.$rigName

-epool stratum+tcp://us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal 0x3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857.Simple2 -esm 0 -epsw x -allpools 1 -mport -3333 -ethi 5 -dpool stratum+tcp://decred.usa.nicehash.com:3354 -dwal 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.Simple2  -esm 0 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 -wd 1 -r 1 -ethi 5 -dcri 15 -dcoin decred

okay will see how it works

I have solid over I may be able to plug in 20    for -dcri 15

[citronick]

Hi Phil....

ETH + DCR I think is better deal than ETH + pascal, for dual mining.

DCR is $2 a pop and currently HOT

Pascal.... I still not convinced of this coin though .... at $0.162 per Pascal, I think your extra watts for dual mining better on the $2 coin.

I would do ethpool for ETH, and config to sell DCR hash at Nicehash because they are paying 1839% above PPS.

-epool -epool us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal <yourETHaddress>.$rigName  -epsw x  -dpool  stratum+tcp://<yourBTCaddress>.$rigName

-epool stratum+tcp://us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal 0x3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857.Simple2 -esm 0 -epsw x -allpools 1 -mport -3333 -ethi 5 -dpool stratum+tcp://decred.usa.nicehash.com:3354 -dwal 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.Simple2  -esm 0 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 -wd 1 -r 1 -ethi 5 -dcri 15 -dcoin decred

I think the -stale needs to be there to get uncles - not sure - I havent done ETH for ages because my non-RX GPUs are making more money in ZEC.

Meanwhile if you want to sell both ETH and DCR to NH then.....

-epool stratum+tcp://daggerhashimoto.usa.nicehash.com:3353 -ewal 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.Simple2 -esm 3 -epsw x -allpools 1 -mport -3333 -ethi 5 -dpool stratum+tcp://decred.usa.nicehash.com:3354 -dwal 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.Simple2 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 -wd 1 -r 1 -dcri 15 -dcoin decred

* ETH at NH 23% above 100% PPS
* DCR at NH 1829% above 100% PPS

[philipma1957]

Hi Phil....

ETH + DCR I think is better deal than ETH + pascal, for dual mining.

DCR is $2 a pop and currently HOT

Pascal.... I still not convinced of this coin though .... at $0.162 per Pascal, I think your extra watts for dual mining better on the $2 coin.

I would do ethpool for ETH, and config to sell DCR hash at Nicehash because they are paying 1839% above PPS.

-epool -epool us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal <yourETHaddress>.$rigName  -epsw x  -dpool  stratum+tcp://<yourBTCaddress>.$rigName

-epool stratum+tcp://us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal 0x3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857.Simple2 -esm 0 -epsw x -allpools 1 -mport -3333 -ethi 5 -dpool stratum+tcp://decred.usa.nicehash.com:3354 -dwal 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.Simple2  -esm 0 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 -wd 1 -r 1 -ethi 5 -dcri 15 -dcoin decred

I think the -stale needs to be there to get uncles - not sure - I havent done ETH for ages because my non-RX GPUs are making more money in ZEC.

I got two uncles from eth pool  without the stale

How do I view the nicehash decred ?

okay I checked it is mining on nicehash.


Since my rigs have a ton of overhead I am running  dcri at 25

[HerbPean]

Hi Phil....

ETH + DCR I think is better deal than ETH + pascal, for dual mining.

DCR is $2 a pop and currently HOT

Pascal.... I still not convinced of this coin though .... at $0.162 per Pascal, I think your extra watts for dual mining better on the $2 coin.

I would do ethpool for ETH, and config to sell DCR hash at Nicehash because they are paying 1839% above PPS.

-epool -epool us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal <yourETHaddress>.$rigName  -epsw x  -dpool  stratum+tcp://<yourBTCaddress>.$rigName

-epool stratum+tcp://us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal 0x3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857.Simple2 -esm 0 -epsw x -allpools 1 -mport -3333 -ethi 5 -dpool stratum+tcp://decred.usa.nicehash.com:3354 -dwal 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.Simple2  -esm 0 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 -wd 1 -r 1 -ethi 5 -dcri 15 -dcoin decred

I think the -stale needs to be there to get uncles - not sure - I havent done ETH for ages because my non-RX GPUs are making more money in ZEC.

I got two uncles from eth pool  without the stale

How do I view the nicehash decred ?

okay I checked it is mining on nicehash

same here, I had like 3 uncles without the flag.

Even a double uncle ! for 12 ETH (said 14 last time but I validated and it was close to 12)

[citronick]

Hi Phil....

ETH + DCR I think is better deal than ETH + pascal, for dual mining.

DCR is $2 a pop and currently HOT

Pascal.... I still not convinced of this coin though .... at $0.162 per Pascal, I think your extra watts for dual mining better on the $2 coin.

I would do ethpool for ETH, and config to sell DCR hash at Nicehash because they are paying 1839% above PPS.

-epool -epool us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal <yourETHaddress>.$rigName  -epsw x  -dpool  stratum+tcp://<yourBTCaddress>.$rigName

-epool stratum+tcp://us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal 0x3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857.Simple2 -esm 0 -epsw x -allpools 1 -mport -3333 -ethi 5 -dpool stratum+tcp://decred.usa.nicehash.com:3354 -dwal 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.Simple2  -esm 0 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 -wd 1 -r 1 -ethi 5 -dcri 15 -dcoin decred

I think the -stale needs to be there to get uncles - not sure - I havent done ETH for ages because my non-RX GPUs are making more money in ZEC.

I got two uncles from eth pool  without the stale

How do I view the nicehash decred ?

okay I checked it is mining on nicehash

Click on the algo name field -- to see your workers

[citronick]

Btw, before I forget... Ryzen 7

Phil - in the last few post you were thinking of doing an AMD build?

I am getting my old Lenovo AMD APU desktop (my Windows PC) at home traded off for a new more powerful Windows PC with multi screen support (more work and monitoring for my team).

I was wondering if I should build one or just get another Lenovo with latest Ryzen APU off the shelf.

My main home desktop is a 5 year old iMac 27" -- upgraded to the tilt with max memory and SSD - it's still good even with running Virtualbox Windows and Linux systems in parallel.

I need to isolate all non-Mac off because all my important stuff like half a dozen wallets are in the Mac and protected with Timemachine.

I guess -- its a security enhancement that I thinking of doing -- resulting 2 separate system.

[philipma1957]

I have multiple builds on tap.

I got 5 of these for 850

https://www.amazon.com/Dual-fan-Radeon-Gaming-Graphics-DUAL-RX480-4G/dp/B01LECTVS4/ref=sr_1_5?

will be testing with this

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01N2V0AHI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1


and this http://www.ebay.com/itm/302219698895?


I will also do a build with this

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813138424

and a i5 6400t

I may sell a small rig

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811353096&cm_re=diypc-_-11-353-096-_-Product

for the gamer miner.

back to decred


here is -ethi 5  -dcri 25

[citronick]

here is -ethi 5  -dcri 25

poolside OK? for DCR?

[philipma1957]

Hi Phil....

ETH + DCR I think is better deal than ETH + pascal, for dual mining.

DCR is $2 a pop and currently HOT

Pascal.... I still not convinced of this coin though .... at $0.162 per Pascal, I think your extra watts for dual mining better on the $2 coin.

I would do ethpool for ETH, and config to sell DCR hash at Nicehash because they are paying 1839% above PPS.

-epool -epool us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal <yourETHaddress>.$rigName  -epsw x  -dpool  stratum+tcp://<yourBTCaddress>.$rigName

-epool stratum+tcp://us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal 0x3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857.Simple2 -esm 0 -epsw x -allpools 1 -mport -3333 -ethi 5 -dpool stratum+tcp://decred.usa.nicehash.com:3354 -dwal 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.Simple2  -esm 0 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 -wd 1 -r 1 -ethi 5 -dcri 15 -dcoin decred

I think the -stale needs to be there to get uncles - not sure - I havent done ETH for ages because my non-RX GPUs are making more money in ZEC.

I got two uncles from eth pool  without the stale

How do I view the nicehash decred ?

okay I checked it is mining on nicehash

Click on the algo name field -- to see your workers

-epool stratum+tcp://us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal 0x3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857.Simple2 -esm 0 -epsw x -allpools 1 -mport -3333 -ethi 5 -dpool stratum+tcp://pascal.usa.nicehash.com:3358 -dwal 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.Simple2  -esm 0 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 -wd 1 -r 1 -ethi 5 -dcri 15 -dcoin pasc

[GabryRox]

Hi Phil....

ETH + DCR I think is better deal than ETH + pascal, for dual mining.

DCR is $2 a pop and currently HOT

Pascal.... I still not convinced of this coin though .... at $0.162 per Pascal, I think your extra watts for dual mining better on the $2 coin.

I would do ethpool for ETH, and config to sell DCR hash at Nicehash because they are paying 1839% above PPS.

-epool -epool us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal <yourETHaddress>.$rigName  -epsw x  -dpool  stratum+tcp://<yourBTCaddress>.$rigName

-epool stratum+tcp://us1.ethpool.org:3333 -ewal 0x3ef297e47404a771139472b93621f82c8a832857.Simple2 -esm 0 -epsw x -allpools 1 -mport -3333 -ethi 5 -dpool stratum+tcp://decred.usa.nicehash.com:3354 -dwal 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.Simple2  -esm 0 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 -wd 1 -r 1 -ethi 5 -dcri 15 -dcoin decred

I think the -stale needs to be there to get uncles - not sure - I havent done ETH for ages because my non-RX GPUs are making more money in ZEC.

Meanwhile if you want to sell both ETH and DCR to NH then.....

-epool stratum+tcp://daggerhashimoto.usa.nicehash.com:3353 -ewal 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.Simple2 -esm 3 -epsw x -allpools 1 -mport -3333 -ethi 5 -dpool stratum+tcp://decred.usa.nicehash.com:3354 -dwal 1JdC6Xg3ajT3rge3FgPNSYYFpmf53Vbtje.Simple2 -allpools 1 -dbg -1 -wd 1 -r 1 -dcri 15 -dcoin decred

* ETH at NH 23% above 100% PPS
* DCR at NH 1829% above 100% PPS

I thought the same about DCR being well better than Pasc as a secondary with ETH. In fact, the only reason I even started running Pasc on my 4-card rig was that for some mysterious reason, it stopped being able to run ETH+DCR a bit over a week ago.  However, I just ran the numbers for that machine and they are essentially a wash:

- DCR ($1.91):  2200 h/r at -dcri 40 uses +80w vs ETH solo for me. Calcs to a .59/day profit

- PASC ($.165):  912 h/r at -dcri 17 uses +85w vs ETH solo.  Calcs to a .57/day profit

In addition, I still have not found the max profit point for PASC, but I suspect that I should be able to bump it up a few more notches, which would make it a bit better than PASC at current prices.  So, I guess it really depends on which of the 2 you think has a better long-term, unless you are converting directly to BTC via nicehash, etc.

[philipma1957]

on the 2 card rigs I can do pasc at -dcri 27

earning about 1.50 usd a day

but I trail off some eth

if I drop  to -dcri -22

I earn about  1.15 - 1.25 usd a day

with almost no eth drop

so my max on past is around  -dcri 22

most likely  everyone should be worse the 22

 17-21  should be best number with pasc

since no one has rigs with ½ the cards a strong psu and an i5 cpu


I did not realize I can go to as high as a -dcri 60 with decred  I will try later today.

just punched in -dcri 35

 eth has stayed same


bumped to -dcri 42

and got nice results   eth stayed the same and I am pushing  5600mh for the rigs in decree

decred goes to -dcri 45  after that eth falls off

I think for me decred is about 3 or 4 cents a day better

[vg54dett]

I'm mining DCR to nicehash too now (2000% over pps)
but I see only 1$ per day expected profitability for 4000 mh.. seems pretty low for 2000% no ?

[philipma1957]

I'm mining DCR to nicehash too now (2000% over pps)
but I see only 1$ per day expected profitability for 4000 mh.. seems pretty low for 2000% no ?

it is not a real 2000%

[GabryRox]

I'm mining DCR to nicehash too now (2000% over pps)
but I see only 1$ per day expected profitability for 4000 mh.. seems pretty low for 2000% no ?

it is not a real 2000%

Can either of you elaborate on this please?

What does it mean that DCR to Nicehash is 2000% over PPS?  I know that auto-converts to BTC, right?  but surely it can't be converting at 2000% or even 200% profit rate of DCR, can it?

$1 profit per day on 4000 mhz is almost exactly proportionate to my 60 cents ppd on 2200 mhz... so where does that % over PPS come in?

[citronick]

I'm mining DCR to nicehash too now (2000% over pps)
but I see only 1$ per day expected profitability for 4000 mh.. seems pretty low for 2000% no ?

it is not a real 2000%

Can either of you elaborate on this please?

What does it mean that DCR to Nicehash is 2000% over PPS?  I know that auto-converts to BTC, right?  but surely it can't be converting at 2000% or even 200% profit rate of DCR, can it?

$1 profit per day on 4000 mhz is almost exactly proportionate to my 60 cents ppd on 2200 mhz... so where does that % over PPS come in?

at NH profitability and 24 payout page:

0.1937 BTC per TH per Day

You getting 4000 MHs with how many rigs? What GPU are you using?

DCR is a $2 coin