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January 09, 2018, 01:01:01 PM |
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Hello. When to wait for good news from the project?
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Budycakrog
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January 09, 2018, 01:30:56 PM |
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Happy for Holding this token Populous make all people to rich , very well congratulation for all people in the world to holding , i wish this token ,is still increase
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HodlThroughTheStorm
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January 09, 2018, 02:38:02 PM |
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Happy for Holding this token Populous make all people to rich , very well congratulation for all people in the world to holding , i wish this token ,is still increase
Look at the depth charts across Binance and EtherDelta it looks good, there is way more demand than supply on the markets if i was a whale with a lot of cash i'd be really pissed that there are only afew thousand PPT on the order books, If you were a whale wanting more than that you would be screwd.... and i bet there are afew whales that do want alot more than what is available on the markets right now, So my guess is they are purposely trying to keep the price where it is to accumulate more PPT, they have those giant buy orders and are just waiting for the week hands to sell to them. That's how whales do it when there isn't enough liquidity to suite their appetite. Trying to stop the price from moving in an attempt to fear the weak hands into selling to them. Seeing as they cant buy what they want they'll try push all of us to sell to them. NOT HAPPENING BUDDY
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BobbyTwist
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January 09, 2018, 02:46:00 PM |
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Look at the depth charts across Binance and EtherDelta it looks good, there is way more demand than supply on the markets if i was a whale with a lot of cash i'd be really pissed that there are only afew thousand PPT on the order books, If you were a whale wanting more than that you would be screwd.... and i bet there are afew whales that do want alot more than what is available on the markets right now, So my guess is they are purposely trying to keep the price where it is to accumulate more PPT, they have those giant buy orders and are just waiting for the week hands to sell to them. That's how whales do it when there isn't enough liquidity to suite their appetite. Trying to stop the price from moving in an attempt to fear the weak hands into selling to them. Seeing as they cant buy what they want they'll try push all of us to sell to them. NOT HAPPENING BUDDY You have an interesting idea. However, as soon as I bought the coins for 2 bitcoins, the course immediately collapsed. Instantly. As if everyone was waiting for me. I did something stupid.
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ecivfesrire
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January 09, 2018, 03:23:27 PM Last edit: January 09, 2018, 03:49:04 PM by ecivfesrire |
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Clif High told me to hodl for $1000/coin by June. That's what I'm doing especially when I see this newbie account on his hands and knees. I have no incentives to dump because of passive income investments in multiple coins. Populous is leading the pack and has highest value proposition.
Sorry to hear you missed the boat. Look at your screen and watch this go up it's your own fault for not getting educated. Fate decrees it. Greshams law
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HodlThroughTheStorm
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January 09, 2018, 04:28:31 PM |
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Lol the whales have even'd out the depth charts, they're here reading the comments lmao.... YOU ARE NOT GETTING MY PPT BRO. Nice try though.
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mihohil
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January 09, 2018, 04:29:59 PM |
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neat token product. polopous have own blockchain or rely on eth?
if u new to it, please read first post in topic. there are all answers to simple question like one u asked And why do you answer simple questions that are already answered .. over and over again ? maybe one time people will understand that they didn't need to ask questions if they have answers
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mihohil
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January 09, 2018, 04:31:13 PM |
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The Beta is coming in the next two weeks Such exciting times!!! Get ready for a massive rally people, the time to fill your bags is almost over why u think so? or maybe you have link with proof?
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mihohil
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January 09, 2018, 04:32:58 PM |
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Hello. When to wait for good news from the project?
price is rising, beta is coming. these times are good imho
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HodlThroughTheStorm
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January 09, 2018, 04:39:47 PM Last edit: January 09, 2018, 06:42:07 PM by HodlThroughTheStorm |
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The Beta is coming in the next two weeks Such exciting times!!! Get ready for a massive rally people, the time to fill your bags is almost over why u think so? or maybe you have link with proof? Was mentioned on twitter afew days ago https://twitter.com/BitPopulous/with_replies
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January 09, 2018, 09:27:10 PM |
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So I think most of us are asking what is the value of PPT when measured by traditional means. I'm going to take a stab. I appreciate comments on my ramblings and rough math:
For example, if you can buy a share/token for $1 and earn 3% per year, what will an investor pay for that stock plus $.03 annual earnings? 10x earnings is probably not unreasonable, so probably about $.30 give or take.
We'll ignore a supply/demand imbalance in the auction which would presumably also affect the interest rate and assume we can earn 2% monthly interest (24% annual interest)reliably. Let's also assume that you can use 80% of the current PPT market value to buy an invoice. For example, an $8k invoice would require $10k of PPT.
PPT is about $46 at the moment. 24% of 80% of $46 is $8.80.
Using a Dividend Discount Model with a Discount Rate of 2%, the calculated value per "share" is $440.
The interesting thing is that as the value of the token increases, the value of the earnings increase at the same rate. So a $440 PPT token would supposedly yield $88 annually. This then yields a token dividend valuation of $4408. So there is no limit to what PPT is worth except the actual ability to actually earn 2%.
The ability to earn 2% monthly interest depends on the supply of invoices and auction conditions achieving a consistent 2% monthly interest rate.
Not enough invoices, lower interest rate results in lower returns. Too many invoices results in higher returns.
The DDM doesn't take into account additional value due to anticipated increase in token price.
There are 37M tokens, so to achieve a $1000 token price, each token needs to be able to earn $19.20 interest annually. This requires a supply of $3.7B of invoices available that you can earn 2% monthly on.
That isn't to say that the DDM is accurate of valid, just one attempt at valuing PPT. Once people are able to see what real returns look like, and if they are close to these assumptions then $1000+ is no problem.
This is a great analysis, Populous is such a unique use case for Blockchain. It serves a large multi trillion dollar market with a product that will always have a purpose. The fact that PPT is already valued at $50 only says that this project is going to moon once everyone knows about it, I've only seen afew youtubers mention it and they have a relatively small subscriber base. I have seen some people mentioning around that PPT is a sleeping giant, and I have to agree. simply because it is already worth over $50 without having any major coverage or exposure at all
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HodlThroughTheStorm
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January 10, 2018, 03:34:59 AM Last edit: January 10, 2018, 05:07:37 AM by HodlThroughTheStorm |
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Does the team consider this ico was successful? Because aditional worth from trading issued tokens not always profitable
What are you talking about? The ICO ended successfully ages ago. Why are you trading PPT? your PPT should be stored in a hardware wallet waiting for the platform to go live
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January 10, 2018, 03:53:44 AM |
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So I think most of us are asking what is the value of PPT when measured by traditional means. I'm going to take a stab. I appreciate comments on my ramblings and rough math:
For example, if you can buy a share/token for $1 and earn 3% per year, what will an investor pay for that stock plus $.03 annual earnings? 10x earnings is probably not unreasonable, so probably about $.30 give or take.
We'll ignore a supply/demand imbalance in the auction which would presumably also affect the interest rate and assume we can earn 2% monthly interest (24% annual interest)reliably. Let's also assume that you can use 80% of the current PPT market value to buy an invoice. For example, an $8k invoice would require $10k of PPT.
PPT is about $46 at the moment. 24% of 80% of $46 is $8.80.
Using a Dividend Discount Model with a Discount Rate of 2%, the calculated value per "share" is $440.
The interesting thing is that as the value of the token increases, the value of the earnings increase at the same rate. So a $440 PPT token would supposedly yield $88 annually. This then yields a token dividend valuation of $4408. So there is no limit to what PPT is worth except the actual ability to actually earn 2%.
The ability to earn 2% monthly interest depends on the supply of invoices and auction conditions achieving a consistent 2% monthly interest rate.
Not enough invoices, lower interest rate results in lower returns. Too many invoices results in higher returns.
The DDM doesn't take into account additional value due to anticipated increase in token price.
There are 37M tokens, so to achieve a $1000 token price, each token needs to be able to earn $19.20 interest annually. This requires a supply of $3.7B of invoices available that you can earn 2% monthly on.
That isn't to say that the DDM is accurate of valid, just one attempt at valuing PPT. Once people are able to see what real returns look like, and if they are close to these assumptions then $1000+ is no problem.
This is a great analysis, Populous is such a unique use case for Blockchain. It serves a large multi trillion dollar market with a product that will always have a purpose. The fact that PPT is already valued at $50 only says that this project is going to moon once everyone knows about it, I've only seen afew youtubers mention it and they have a relatively small subscriber base. I have seen some people mentioning around that PPT is a sleeping giant, and I have to agree. simply because it is already worth over $50 without having any major coverage or exposure at all i always think ppt is a potential program.the value will appear slowly.
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Serlder
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January 10, 2018, 03:58:52 AM |
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Does the team consider this ico was successful? Because aditional worth from trading issued tokens not always profitable
You must have some kind of autism? Because you literally earn interest off of the invoices that you finance. You win no matter what. And as the value of your PPT goes up you'll be able to finance way more invoices and get even higher interest payouts
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HodlThroughTheStorm
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January 10, 2018, 05:06:00 AM |
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Populous is still a pretty low key project, glad they are dedicating time to the development of the platform first, once they start a proper marketing campaign this thing is going to absolutely explode
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ecivfesrire
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January 10, 2018, 05:33:59 AM |
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Been riding the ethereum railroad after buying some more awhile back. Populous down a little. Ethereum railroad or populous train? Populous train is tantalizing
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the_thing
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January 10, 2018, 06:03:24 AM |
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Been riding the ethereum railroad after buying some more awhile back. Populous down a little. Ethereum railroad or populous train? Populous train is tantalizing
Most of the ETH based tokens are down today probably because soon ETH will be trading at .1 BTC we will be back in track in no time.
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ecivfesrire
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January 10, 2018, 06:09:35 AM |
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Yeah most of the exchanges are slammed with too many customers including Binance. As soon as the gears get unjammed and populous platform running we will be slammed. Eth was my gateway drug to THE populous Owning populous is like having the keys to the crypto liquor cabinet my hands are glued to ppt
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culuuton
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January 10, 2018, 06:09:56 AM |
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Great projects, so are there so many projects that offer a reward for social media? I hope this will be a success.
Of course this is a great project, it will certainly succeed. Now almost all projects that offer a reward for social media because it helps a lot for the development of coin, people know more about the coin.
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panorama
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January 10, 2018, 01:23:40 PM |
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Owning populous is like having the keys to the crypto liquor cabinet my hands are glued to ppt
Haha...I like that analogy.
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