Fourth alt coin thread last three got oversized.

[bdiddle]

Storx where are you mining Sia?

I noticed most sia pools only work with claymore......

[ticmmae]

@storx

I am guessing you are mining at Nicehash.

You can goto whattomine.com to see the difference in profitability between mining direct and Nicehash marketplace.

With ETH price so high now, that difference is huge almost 15-20%.

My ETH farm mines to ethpool and dwarfpool, and collecting ETH coins back to Coinbase.

Compared this to ZEC mining, I prefer Nicehash because you get paid in BTC upfront without the coin confirmation BS -- I also find the ZEC pools too sluggish and struggles whenever diff level goes up.

Regarding Nicehash, what is the best way to get the payout? I am looking through their fees and it is so confusing and they dont seem to let you choose payout threshold. I feel like mining to their wallet and withdrawing later is the best way? (2% payout fee + 0.3% withdrawl fee for nicehash wallet compared to 3% or 4% payout fee to external wallet)

[vapourminer]

When i installed Windows on the GO, it said it was installing Windows Enterprise edition and that 32GB was the minimal size USB drive needed, but the actual install size on the USB drive is only 22.1GB. I am going to leave this in my mining rig running for the next few days to make sure its stable running it this way.. i did notice a small drop in wattage running the usb drive over the mechanical hd also...

forget about 32 gig drives for windows.

my wife grabbed a win10 netbook a while back with a 32 gig ssd. ran ok for a while till the last win10 update. came up with an "out of space" error and would not update. wound up compressing the whole drive to get room.

and it has a sd card for most programs/data so the only thing on the ssd is windows and thunderbird. and i run ccleaner religiously. 32 gigs is just too small.

get a 64 gig drive for windows.

[citronick]

When i installed Windows on the GO, it said it was installing Windows Enterprise edition and that 32GB was the minimal size USB drive needed, but the actual install size on the USB drive is only 22.1GB. I am going to leave this in my mining rig running for the next few days to make sure its stable running it this way.. i did notice a small drop in wattage running the usb drive over the mechanical hd also...

forget about 32 gig drives for windows.

my wife grabbed a win10 netbook a while back with a 32 gig ssd. ran ok for a while till the last win10 update. came up with an "out of space" error and would not update. wound up compressing the whole drive to get room.

and it has a sd card for most programs/data so the only thing on the ssd is windows and thunderbird. and i run ccleaner religiously. 32 gigs is just too small.

get a 64 gig drive for windows.

I think disabling updates, delete all non-essential software and run Claymore and your miners off Google Drive or MS OneDrive.

[citronick]

Meanwhile my contacts sent me this allegedly coming out to the market in 2 weeks...

Looks like this card has no video output !

I assume that this is the 1060 Mining Edition, NVIDIA has been talking about.

[Maticul]

Meanwhile my contacts sent me this allegedly coming out to the market in 2 weeks...

Looks like this card has no video output !

I assume that this is the 1060 Mining Edition, NVIDIA has been talking about.

I think the resale value could be low.

[puwaha]

You do not want to auto switch .  This is not the time for me to explain why  as I need a lot of time to show the down sides of it.

I'd be mightily interested in your opinion on this subject philipma.  If you ever get the time to do this explanation, even if it was just a few general statements, I think we'd all benefit.

I have my own suspicions, plus what I have read others say on this subject... but basically would you say that you are always chasing the tail end of an upswing if you use profit-switching?

[philipma1957]

You do not want to auto switch .  This is not the time for me to explain why  as I need a lot of time to show the down sides of it.

I'd be mightily interested in your opinion on this subject philipma.  If you ever get the time to do this explanation, even if it was just a few general statements, I think we'd all benefit.

I have my own suspicions, plus what I have read others say on this subject... but basically would you say that you are always chasing the tail end of an upswing if you use profit-switching?

yes  but  carry it forward and pretend  it is one of  only 2 softwares in the world.

manual 1 until you switch and the switcher.

so I can run an odd coin say zer  for 1 week manual  get 1000 coins  for low cost say .00000111 btc each

or .00111 btc

then list on an exchange at  0.0000555 each  and forget it .

 switching  pretty much  does not work as you want a low difficulty coin  more then the most profitable coin.

also  every switch you make  you lose money on the ramp up.  and depending on what you were mining some pools kill you for switching off.

[Storx]

@storx

I am guessing you are mining at Nicehash.

You can goto whattomine.com to see the difference in profitability between mining direct and Nicehash marketplace.

With ETH price so high now, that difference is huge almost 15-20%.

My ETH farm mines to ethpool and dwarfpool, and collecting ETH coins back to Coinbase.

Compared this to ZEC mining, I prefer Nicehash because you get paid in BTC upfront without the coin confirmation BS -- I also find the ZEC pools too sluggish and struggles whenever diff level goes up.

I just did what you said and blake is still coming out as the more profitable coin right now for my 1080ti's.... ive been getting between 10-17/day per card for almost a week now.. im not sure how long it will stay like this.. but its been super profitable since skein took a nose dive last week....

Hashrate?

Im mining blake on zpool... the 24hrs profit number currently is 0.38722 (which is low today)
0.38722 x 91.494Gh/s=35.42830668mBTC/day or 0.03542831 btc/day, today is not a good day for me to mine blake, because it was around 0.8ish the last week nearly... if i mined blake today i would only make $6.86 per card for the day if the profit rate stayed stable....which it never does.. right now im mining skein....

skein currently for me is 0.00393, so 0.00393 x 22503 hashrate gives 88.43679mBTC/day or 0.08843679btc *estimate today or $222.88, basically $17 per card for me today... but since i know skein moves a lot during the day... i expect around 13-14 per card

AND dont forget the pool fee, so whatever it comes out above you times it by 0.98 to get your closer estimate earnings to subtract the 2% fee

[puwaha]

You do not want to auto switch .  This is not the time for me to explain why  as I need a lot of time to show the down sides of it.

I'd be mightily interested in your opinion on this subject philipma.  If you ever get the time to do this explanation, even if it was just a few general statements, I think we'd all benefit.

I have my own suspicions, plus what I have read others say on this subject... but basically would you say that you are always chasing the tail end of an upswing if you use profit-switching?

yes  but  carry it forward and pretend  it is one of  only 2 softwares in the world.

manual 1 until you switch and the switcher.

so I can run an odd coin say zer  for 1 week manual  get 1000 coins  for low cost say .00000111 btc each

or .00111 btc

then list on an exchange at  0.0000555 each  and forget it .

 switching  pretty much  does not work as you want a low difficulty coin  more then the most profitable coin.

also  every switch you make  you lose money on the ramp up.  and depending on what you were mining some pools kill you for switching off.

Let's take on a specific well known case and pool like Nicehash.  If you were to take one rig and mine one specific algo on Nicehash, say ZEC and it does the auto-convert to BTC for you... and you have a second identical rig and let it profit switch on Nicehash... you honestly think that the mining a single algo would come up with more BTC at the end of the day?

I ask, because in the hypothetical scenario I posed above, you will have periods of the day where ZEC will not be as profitable as another algo, and even though you will be chasing the tail end of an upswing on other algos... you would potentially lose a lot in the ZEC->BTC low conversion rate because you were stuck on it.  The tiny bit you would lose in the miner switches should more than make up for the low conversion rate between ZEC->BTC on the single algo rig, I'd think

I think it would be an interesting experiment to try, and I realize that day-to-day the differences between those two test rigs would obviously be different.

I'm going to see what I can do to test these ideas and theories.  It may be a little bit before I can get around to it though.  I'm going to be moving in the next few weeks.

[Storx]

Meanwhile my contacts sent me this allegedly coming out to the market in 2 weeks...

Looks like this card has no video output !

I assume that this is the 1060 Mining Edition, NVIDIA has been talking about.

I like the idea of a mining edition GPU, but honestly i dont see it being worth it for us... because the price they quoted was only $20 less than the standard 1060 card and the mining cards only come with 3 month warranty on parts ONLY, labor and shipping not included.... then there was the info that you can only purchase them in quantities of 20 at a time for some reason... so you have to buy 20 and build 4 x 5 card rigs or have odd extra's....

[bdiddle]

Storx I take it you are doing Blake2s?

[Storx]

Storx I take it you are doing Blake2s?

not today bud, blake was plummeting in profit lastnight, its not even in my top 3 on my list right now

[Mattthev]

What do you think about LBRY (LBC)?

[xleejohnx]

@storx

I am guessing you are mining at Nicehash.

You can goto whattomine.com to see the difference in profitability between mining direct and Nicehash marketplace.

With ETH price so high now, that difference is huge almost 15-20%.

My ETH farm mines to ethpool and dwarfpool, and collecting ETH coins back to Coinbase.

Compared this to ZEC mining, I prefer Nicehash because you get paid in BTC upfront without the coin confirmation BS -- I also find the ZEC pools too sluggish and struggles whenever diff level goes up.

Regarding Nicehash, what is the best way to get the payout? I am looking through their fees and it is so confusing and they dont seem to let you choose payout threshold. I feel like mining to their wallet and withdrawing later is the best way? (2% payout fee + 0.3% withdrawl fee for nicehash wallet compared to 3% or 4% payout fee to external wallet)

I use the nicehash wallet then move it all to my coinbase wallet.
Saves about 1% total per transaction

[Storx]

Asus Turbo 1080ti HUGE CON:

Just a little tip in regards to the Asus Turbo 1080ti's.... the onboard auto fan control on these cards seems to be god awful.... and gets hung up a lot and stuck are random fan % while the temps shoot to 84c.. i have found the only way to use auto fan on these cards without hangups is to use software auto fan control. When you click auto on the right side of the fan bar you are turning on auto fan control on the GPU itself, to self regulate to the temp you set... but i found it multiple times hung up and letting the GPU's at my parents garage to run at 84c.... i did some searching and found that if you go into fan settings, click use custom fan control, then click the force update option.. as long as you leave msi afterburner open it will regulate the GPU's perfectly, dont minimize it, just leave it open and the fan will slowly adjust.. it isnt instant... it takes time to adjust, but after a few hours of running it this way the fan control using the software is way more superior than the onboard option.. for all other brand gtx1080ti's the onboard auto fan control is just as good as the software..

If the ENTIRE fan bar is highlighted red, it means your using software auto fan control via msi afterburner
If the right corner  of fan bar is highlighted red, it means your using hardware auto fan control

[EvilMonkey]

@storx

I am guessing you are mining at Nicehash.

You can goto whattomine.com to see the difference in profitability between mining direct and Nicehash marketplace.

With ETH price so high now, that difference is huge almost 15-20%.

My ETH farm mines to ethpool and dwarfpool, and collecting ETH coins back to Coinbase.

Compared this to ZEC mining, I prefer Nicehash because you get paid in BTC upfront without the coin confirmation BS -- I also find the ZEC pools too sluggish and struggles whenever diff level goes up.

I just did what you said and blake is still coming out as the more profitable coin right now for my 1080ti's.... ive been getting between 10-17/day per card for almost a week now.. im not sure how long it will stay like this.. but its been super profitable since skein took a nose dive last week....

Hashrate?

Im mining blake on zpool... the 24hrs profit number currently is 0.38722 (which is low today)
0.38722 x 91.494Gh/s=35.42830668mBTC/day or 0.03542831 btc/day, today is not a good day for me to mine blake, because it was around 0.8ish the last week nearly... if i mined blake today i would only make $6.86 per card for the day if the profit rate stayed stable....which it never does.. right now im mining skein....

skein currently for me is 0.00393, so 0.00393 x 22503 hashrate gives 88.43679mBTC/day or 0.08843679btc *estimate today or $222.88, basically $17 per card for me today... but since i know skein moves a lot during the day... i expect around 13-14 per card

AND dont forget the pool fee, so whatever it comes out above you times it by 0.98 to get your closer estimate earnings to subtract the 2% fee

Can you be more specific.  It is really hard to follow what you are doing with what hardware and how.

What miner and pool are you using to mine blake (zpool)?  Which blake?  Can you post your bat file  (ccminer -a blake2s?).  What hash rate are you getting?

Sounds interesting.

Also you are saying Skein is giving you 17$ per card.  I have never seen it more than 14$ and right now it is very low more like $10.60 before power and pool fees.  It hasn't really moved around that much in the last 12 hours.

I want to be making what you are.  But the numbers just don't really stack up.  You total hasrate is 22503 for how many cards?  That would actually give you $220 worth of BTC but I just cant figure out your numbers.  So you have 22 1090 ti's?  If you did.  That would end up around $10.50 per card.

Your numbers are telling me you have 13 cards doing 1730 Hash per card on Skein.   I suspect something is not right on a spreadsheet somewhere.  Which would also explain your blake profits which seem to not add up.  Though I still want to try it .  If it can match Skein sometimes I wanna give it a go.

I could have something confused myself I am not the best at math.

[EvilMonkey]

@storx

I am guessing you are mining at Nicehash.

You can goto whattomine.com to see the difference in profitability between mining direct and Nicehash marketplace.

With ETH price so high now, that difference is huge almost 15-20%.

My ETH farm mines to ethpool and dwarfpool, and collecting ETH coins back to Coinbase.

Compared this to ZEC mining, I prefer Nicehash because you get paid in BTC upfront without the coin confirmation BS -- I also find the ZEC pools too sluggish and struggles whenever diff level goes up.

Regarding Nicehash, what is the best way to get the payout? I am looking through their fees and it is so confusing and they dont seem to let you choose payout threshold. I feel like mining to their wallet and withdrawing later is the best way? (2% payout fee + 0.3% withdrawl fee for nicehash wallet compared to 3% or 4% payout fee to external wallet)

I use the nicehash wallet then move it all to my coinbase wallet.
Saves about 1% total per transaction

Oh thanks for this I was just mining direct to the exchange.  Need to change that I didn't realise.

[Storx]

@storx

I am guessing you are mining at Nicehash.

You can goto whattomine.com to see the difference in profitability between mining direct and Nicehash marketplace.

With ETH price so high now, that difference is huge almost 15-20%.

My ETH farm mines to ethpool and dwarfpool, and collecting ETH coins back to Coinbase.

Compared this to ZEC mining, I prefer Nicehash because you get paid in BTC upfront without the coin confirmation BS -- I also find the ZEC pools too sluggish and struggles whenever diff level goes up.

I just did what you said and blake is still coming out as the more profitable coin right now for my 1080ti's.... ive been getting between 10-17/day per card for almost a week now.. im not sure how long it will stay like this.. but its been super profitable since skein took a nose dive last week....

Hashrate?

Im mining blake on zpool... the 24hrs profit number currently is 0.38722 (which is low today)
0.38722 x 91.494Gh/s=35.42830668mBTC/day or 0.03542831 btc/day, today is not a good day for me to mine blake, because it was around 0.8ish the last week nearly... if i mined blake today i would only make $6.86 per card for the day if the profit rate stayed stable....which it never does.. right now im mining skein....

skein currently for me is 0.00393, so 0.00393 x 22503 hashrate gives 88.43679mBTC/day or 0.08843679btc *estimate today or $222.88, basically $17 per card for me today... but since i know skein moves a lot during the day... i expect around 13-14 per card

AND dont forget the pool fee, so whatever it comes out above you times it by 0.98 to get your closer estimate earnings to subtract the 2% fee

Can you be more specific.  It is really hard to follow what you are doing with what hardware and how.

What miner and pool are you using to mine blake (zpool)?  Which blake?  Can you post your bat file  (ccminer -a blake2s?).  What hash rate are you getting?

Sounds interesting.

Also you are saying Skein is giving you 17$ per card.  I have never seen it more than 14$ and right now it is very low more like $10.60 before power and pool fees.  It hasn't really moved around that much in the last 12 hours.

I want to be making what you are.  But the numbers just don't really stack up.  You total hasrate is 22503 for how many cards?  That would actually give you $220 worth of BTC but I just cant figure out your numbers.  So you have 22 1090 ti's?  If you did.  That would end up around $10.50 per card.

Your numbers are telling me you have 13 cards doing 1730 Hash per card on Skein.   I suspect something is not right on a spreadsheet somewhere.  Which would also explain your blake profits which seem to not add up.  Though I still want to try it .  If it can match Skein sometimes I wanna give it a go.

I could have something confused myself I am not the best at math.

First of all, im still tuning things.. but i have been dialing in my cards for each algo setup still...

I mostly use Zpool.ca as my pool to mine from...

I dont use a single batch file for all miners on each rig, i have a mix of GPU's and i have found that every card has different limits on tuning the settings... some are way more overclockable compared to others based on the base clock speed....

So, currently for 13 GPU's i have 13 separate batch files running with a modified version of Nemominer in which i added additional miners to the list to use for example i recently added ccminer-x64 2.0 which is the most recent ccminer released and some of the algos on alexis are just slightly faster on it over others... but this varies on multiple things...

Firstly each miner has different default intensity levels, so when you test out a algo on a miner, you have to set the intensity manually across the board, because i found during my testings, the miners i thought was hashing me the best rates were actually using a different intensity setting default and when i would set it equal to others, in some cases it was really no longer better.. also different brand cards seem to vary a little with different miners, so i test each new card i get on all miners at predetermined intensity levels while i adjust the core and clock settings.. i use the --benchmark coding built into the miners..
so for example:

Code:

 :START
ccminerAlexis78.exe --benchmark --algo=lyra2v2 -i=27

The above simple code would start alexis78 miner, then activate benchmarking on the predetermined algo of lyra2v2 at an intensity of 27...

I do this for a while testing out different settings on each and every algo so i can set the tuning for each algo to run at its most optimal hashrates within the limits of what i can get out of the GPU... this is why i have different batch files for each GPU, because some will run at 31 intensity all the way to +300 core, but others cant.. and when you tune all together the weakest card brings down all the rest of your rig..

[EvilMonkey]

@storx

I am guessing you are mining at Nicehash.

You can goto whattomine.com to see the difference in profitability between mining direct and Nicehash marketplace.

With ETH price so high now, that difference is huge almost 15-20%.

My ETH farm mines to ethpool and dwarfpool, and collecting ETH coins back to Coinbase.

Compared this to ZEC mining, I prefer Nicehash because you get paid in BTC upfront without the coin confirmation BS -- I also find the ZEC pools too sluggish and struggles whenever diff level goes up.

I just did what you said and blake is still coming out as the more profitable coin right now for my 1080ti's.... ive been getting between 10-17/day per card for almost a week now.. im not sure how long it will stay like this.. but its been super profitable since skein took a nose dive last week....

Hashrate?

Im mining blake on zpool... the 24hrs profit number currently is 0.38722 (which is low today)
0.38722 x 91.494Gh/s=35.42830668mBTC/day or 0.03542831 btc/day, today is not a good day for me to mine blake, because it was around 0.8ish the last week nearly... if i mined blake today i would only make $6.86 per card for the day if the profit rate stayed stable....which it never does.. right now im mining skein....

skein currently for me is 0.00393, so 0.00393 x 22503 hashrate gives 88.43679mBTC/day or 0.08843679btc *estimate today or $222.88, basically $17 per card for me today... but since i know skein moves a lot during the day... i expect around 13-14 per card

AND dont forget the pool fee, so whatever it comes out above you times it by 0.98 to get your closer estimate earnings to subtract the 2% fee

Can you be more specific.  It is really hard to follow what you are doing with what hardware and how.

What miner and pool are you using to mine blake (zpool)?  Which blake?  Can you post your bat file  (ccminer -a blake2s?).  What hash rate are you getting?

Sounds interesting.

Also you are saying Skein is giving you 17$ per card.  I have never seen it more than 14$ and right now it is very low more like $10.60 before power and pool fees.  It hasn't really moved around that much in the last 12 hours.

I want to be making what you are.  But the numbers just don't really stack up.  You total hasrate is 22503 for how many cards?  That would actually give you $220 worth of BTC but I just cant figure out your numbers.  So you have 22 1090 ti's?  If you did.  That would end up around $10.50 per card.

Your numbers are telling me you have 13 cards doing 1730 Hash per card on Skein.   I suspect something is not right on a spreadsheet somewhere.  Which would also explain your blake profits which seem to not add up.  Though I still want to try it .  If it can match Skein sometimes I wanna give it a go.

I could have something confused myself I am not the best at math.

First of all, im still tuning things.. but i have been dialing in my cards for each algo setup still...

I mostly use Zpool.ca as my pool to mine from...

I dont use a single batch file for all miners on each rig, i have a mix of GPU's and i have found that every card has different limits on tuning the settings... some are way more overclockable compared to others based on the base clock speed....

So, currently for 13 GPU's i have 13 separate batch files running with a modified version of Nemominer in which i added additional miners to the list to use for example i recently added ccminer-x64 2.0 which is the most recent ccminer released and some of the algos on alexis are just slightly faster on it over others... but this varies on multiple things...

Firstly each miner has different default intensity levels, so when you test out a algo on a miner, you have to set the intensity manually across the board, because i found during my testings, the miners i thought was hashing me the best rates were actually using a different intensity setting default and when i would set it equal to others, in some cases it was really no longer better.. also different brand cards seem to vary a little with different miners, so i test each new card i get on all miners at predetermined intensity levels while i adjust the core and clock settings.. i use the --benchmark coding built into the miners..
so for example:

Code:

 :START
ccminerAlexis78.exe --benchmark --algo=lyra2v2 -i=27

The above simple code would start alexis78 miner, then activate benchmarking on the predetermined algo of lyra2v2 at an intensity of 27...

I do this for a while testing out different settings on each and every algo so i can set the tuning for each algo to run at its most optimal hashrates within the limits of what i can get out of the GPU... this is why i have different batch files for each GPU, because some will run at 31 intensity all the way to +300 core, but others cant.. and when you tune all together the weakest card brings down all the rest of your rig..

What?  I think I might just let this go aye.  Because you seem a bit confused.

I asked.
-how are you mining blake at 17$ per card per day.  What miner and what does your batch look like for one card... say a 1080ti seeing we know u have lots of those.  What hash rate for blake?  And you are probably putting the wrong  numbers in somewhere because blake2s isn't on whattomine that I could see.

-What hash rates are you getting for skien.   Because your numbers don't stack up.  You just confirmed you have only 13 cards.  I don't see how you can get the hash rate you claim even if all 13 cards where 1080ti.  You would need 22 1080 ti's to get that hash rate and they would all need to be very perfectly tweaked which is not that hard.