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June 22, 2023, 07:48:51 AM
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The latest news that has broken the speculation about Gundogan's future, Gundogan has now signed a two-year contract with Barcelona and the agreement between the two parties has been completed. With Barcelona officially withdrawing Gundogan, it means that the strength of the attack line is getting sharper, of course, Gundogan is experienced and can provide guidance to young players. Moreover, Barcelona's position is the same as Manchester City which managed to lead the top of the standings in La Liga. Gundogan will surely be Busquets' replacement captain and Xavi is far more in control of the situation. Gundogan's presence is quite important and does not rule out the possibility that next season Barcelona will still have the potential to win the La Liga trophy.
What do you think about Barcelona's performance in the future?

source : https://twitter.com/FabrizioRomano/status/1671558716594745345

Well, this move by Gundogan to leave Manchester City and just after winning the Champions League trophy is quite surprising. I suspected his time at Manchester City was likely coming to an end after playing foot so long at the club. I never did expect him to go over to Barcelona.
Gundogan has a lot of potential as well as experience to impact on the other players. I think the future of Barcelona is still secured and they very well  still have what it takes to retain the title of the La Liga trophy next season.

The problem is actually not Gundogan in my opinion!!!, i think Pep might have an impact on the way this players want to move so easily!!!, Pep seem like that proud non challant coach who doesn't give any slightest importance to his big players!!! most of them are treated like they can be replaced anytime, and there is no assurance whatsoever from the coach, Even Bernando is set to leave possibly!!! Cancelo was sidelined just badly too, and there hasn't been a replacement for him yet.. Pep won the treble last  tweaking his formation and tactics to fit in with his present squad which worked for him!!!, but will it keep working??
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June 22, 2023, 07:54:22 AM
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According to reports,Arsenal have competed the signing of Karl Harvetz from Chelsea in a deal worth about 60 million pounds.As an Arsenal fan,I am happy that Arsenal have made a signing in this transfer window,but I'm not happy it's Karl Harvetz,I was watching his pattern of play in YouTube,and I must confess,he might just be another Fabio Vierra in the Arsenal team.He is bought to play in thesame position with Odegard,but I don't see him starting for Arsenal,because at the moment,I don't think he can bench anyone in that starting line up.We have people like Smith Rowe who is fighting to  be a regular starter in the squad,and it hasn't been possible following the exceptional form of Martinelli on that wing.Nevertheless,it is not bad because he would add depth to the young squad.

Exodus of the 2020-21 CL winners squad commences  Shocked

Seriously, it's quite crazy, here's the list of all Chelsea players who have won the Champions League sold or are going to be sold:

- Kai Havertz (just now)
- Kovacic (city)
- Kante (saudi league) <- soon to be followed by Zeyich and Mendy
- RLC
- Mount
- Pulisic
- Kepa ?

And when you consider how even more of Chelsea players left last season, it goes on to show that Chelsea squad really does have a short turnaround.

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June 22, 2023, 07:59:44 AM
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It looks like Manchester United have also joined the race for Declan Rice. Their deal is likely to be like money + Maguire or McTominay. Maybe not Maguire but McTominay might be favourable by West Ham side. Because Rice is also a defensive midfielder like McTominay so they might find it okay to think about it.

But of course the money part must be convincing for West Ham. Because Arsenal look ready to pay even 100 million euros for Rice now. As far as I have heard West Ham have been demanding around this amount. His market value is already 90 million euros and he is a young and solid player. I'm not surprised with this demand as a result.

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June 22, 2023, 08:15:51 AM
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Sandro Tonali is a very good young player, he is still very young 23 years old but I think 80m€ is quite expensive.
Newcastle is indeed a team that currently has a lot of money and their success in qualifying for the UCL next season makes this team have to improve even better for next season, of course if they buy players at high prices create high expectations for these players to show good performance.
If this transfer occurs, AC Milan will be very profitable, by getting fresh funds of 80m € of course they can spend on other players to be able to fill the void left by Tonali.
I would have never expected it. Just yesterday, I was talking to my friend about Milan's transfer market, and by chance, we started discussing Tonali, with him saying, "I can already imagine Tonali retiring at Milan in his forties." Just a few hours later, in the evening, the first rumors about Sandro's transfer started to emerge. I don't know how to express it other than it being completely unexpected. It's a lot of sadness and disappointment, but these are choices that many are making nowadays. After losing two symbolic figures like Maldini and Massara, Milan is now losing one of the team's pillars, Tonali. I think that if Maldini had been there, this negotiation would not have taken off. Now we hope that the club knows how to manage and invest the proceeds in the best way, although I have strong doubts.

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June 22, 2023, 08:33:47 AM
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It looks like Manchester United have also joined the race for Declan Rice. Their deal is likely to be like money + Maguire or McTominay. Maybe not Maguire but McTominay might be favourable by West Ham side. Because Rice is also a defensive midfielder like McTominay so they might find it okay to think about it.

But of course the money part must be convincing for West Ham. Because Arsenal look ready to pay even 100 million euros for Rice now. As far as I have heard West Ham have been demanding around this amount. His market value is already 90 million euros and he is a young and solid player. I'm not surprised with this demand as a result.
Yes, I had the speculation that Manchester United are said to be keen on pushing a swap deal in order to entice West Ham into parting with Declan Rice. If that is the case, Arsenal would have done this a long time ago with either Nketiah, Emile smith Rowe or Balogun. West ham only want to sell and Arsenal have already made two club record offers. Rice is seen as Arsenal’s priority signing and the player only wants a move to Arsenal. So I expect Westham to honor their 3rd bid.
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June 22, 2023, 08:49:07 AM
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According to reports,Arsenal have competed the signing of Karl Harvetz from Chelsea in a deal worth about 60 million pounds.As an Arsenal fan,I am happy that Arsenal have made a signing in this transfer window,but I'm not happy it's Karl Harvetz,I was watching his pattern of play in YouTube,and I must confess,he might just be another Fabio Vierra in the Arsenal team.He is bought to play in thesame position with Odegard,but I don't see him starting for Arsenal,because at the moment,I don't think he can bench anyone in that starting line up.We have people like Smith Rowe who is fighting to  be a regular starter in the squad,and it hasn't been possible following the exceptional form of Martinelli on that wing.Nevertheless,it is not bad because he would add depth to the young squad.
I am not happy with the signing. He’s not my ideal signing and I don’t understand his position in the team. But I think Arteta likes him. He is in the age bracket Arteta likes. I think he is 24. Thierry Henry describes him as having similar traits to RVP. Let's hope he fulfils his potentials in Arsenal just like Odegaard is currently is. I am glad he is used to the EPL speed. That matters to me. At the end of the day his performance will give the final verdict and justify the teams decision to recruit him.
I think Arsenal have done a great job of signing Kai Havertz and for a fee of £65m it doesn't seem like such a big deal for a talent who failed to thrive at his previous club. We know that with Chelsea, Havertz seemed confused about adapting to his coach's style of play and he was often used as a striker, even though his original position was AMF.

Maybe Arteta does have other views on maximizing the talents possessed by Havertz, that's why Arsenal really want to get him. Now a new challenge with a new team will start in the EPL next season for Kai Havertz, of course he doesn't want to experience the same season as last season.

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June 22, 2023, 08:54:59 AM
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Seriously, it's quite crazy, here's the list of all Chelsea players who have won the Champions League sold or are going to be sold:

- Kai Havertz (just now)
- Kovacic (city)
- Kante (saudi league) <- soon to be followed by Zeyich and Mendy
- RLC
- Mount
- Pulisic
- Kepa ?

And when you consider how even more of Chelsea players left last season, it goes on to show that Chelsea squad really does have a short turnaround.
It's really don't make sense if Chelsea want to sell Kepa too, I heard Mendy will leave Chelsea too, this mean if both Kepa and Mendy leave Chelsea, Chelsea will don't have any good goalkeepers. The other 3 goalkeepers very rarely play, it's better to sell those 3 players rather than let Mendy and Kepa to join other teams.

I just hope Chelsea at least can survive in the next season, if they enter degradation zone, this will be a huge mistake by Pochettino.

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June 22, 2023, 08:58:21 AM
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It looks like Manchester United have also joined the race for Declan Rice. Their deal is likely to be like money + Maguire or McTominay. Maybe not Maguire but McTominay might be favourable by West Ham side. Because Rice is also a defensive midfielder like McTominay so they might find it okay to think about it.

But of course the money part must be convincing for West Ham. Because Arsenal look ready to pay even 100 million euros for Rice now. As far as I have heard West Ham have been demanding around this amount. His market value is already 90 million euros and he is a young and solid player. I'm not surprised with this demand as a result.

After the news said that WHU rejected an offer from Arsenal, Manchester United immediately had the intention to hijack Declane Rice, you're right about the rumors saying that Manchester United also offered 2 players (Maguire and McTominay) apart from money. Of course, this situation is very profitable for WHU, they get money + players.

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June 22, 2023, 09:02:34 AM
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It's really don't make sense if Chelsea want to sell Kepa too, I heard Mendy will leave Chelsea too, this mean if both Kepa and Mendy leave Chelsea, Chelsea will don't have any good goalkeepers. The other 3 goalkeepers very rarely play, it's better to sell those 3 players rather than let Mendy and Kepa to join other teams.

I just hope Chelsea at least can survive in the next season, if they enter degradation zone, this will be a huge mistake by Pochettino.
Pochettino will definitely hold back players he feels can strengthen his team. and letting go of a few that are not in Pochettino's plans won't be a problem.
Chelsea shouldn't be too bad next season. it will indeed be hard work for Pochettino, because indeed there are several players who want to leave the team and some who survive must be optimistic about Pochettino's coaching.
hopefully it will be good, even before the pre-season games they have to be prepared.



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June 22, 2023, 09:02:42 AM
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Seriously, it's quite crazy, here's the list of all Chelsea players who have won the Champions League sold or are going to be sold:

- Kai Havertz (just now)
- Kovacic (city)
- Kante (saudi league) <- soon to be followed by Zeyich and Mendy
- RLC
- Mount
- Pulisic
- Kepa ?

And when you consider how even more of Chelsea players left last season, it goes on to show that Chelsea squad really does have a short turnaround.
It's really don't make sense if Chelsea want to sell Kepa too, I heard Mendy will leave Chelsea too, this mean if both Kepa and Mendy leave Chelsea, Chelsea will don't have any good goalkeepers. The other 3 goalkeepers very rarely play, it's better to sell those 3 players rather than let Mendy and Kepa to join other teams.

I just hope Chelsea at least can survive in the next season, if they enter degradation zone, this will be a huge mistake by Pochettino.
It is easy to remember that those players won the champions league seasons ago but it is not easy to remember that those players are also the people that wanted to send Chelsea to relegation this ended season.
I support Pochettino and I believe he has his plans and targets. It is not all about having good players but the big question is of they play together as a team or they play destructively.
Average players playing as a team is better than star players playing solo and greedy football.

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June 22, 2023, 09:08:08 AM
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Joselu is not enough to replace Benzema's role? I'm not sure if Perez is really satisfied with the current squad. I've been a Real Madrid fan for a long time, as far as I know the current squad isn't the ideal squad that Real Madrid often builds for the new season. Moreover, there is still 1 striker only, if Joselu gets injured Real Madrid has no substituted striker. IMHO, Joselu is only signed for another option for the striker position. So, Real Madrid should sign 1 more striker at least, Perez still doesn't get the main striker. How can it be enough for Real Madrid?  Huh

By the way, we still have a long time for the transfer window. So, there is enough time for Real Madrid to sign other players. Moreover, Real Madrid only signs 1 top player (Bellingham). They should buy some top players in the transfer window.

I've seen that Real Madrid doesn't hurry into signing players, and when they do, they always get the best among the rest of the players currently playing in that position for the top European teams. Joselu is clearly Real Madrid's backup striker and not the exact man they'll desire in that position. He won't be able to replace the void left by Benzema in the club with his current playing style; he'll have to improve over time to do so. He has the potential to be better, but he will be replaced by a better striker soon.
Rushing is never good. If any work has to be done in haste, there will be mistakes in the work. In that case, Real Madrid should not make such a big mistake in signing any player, they keep an eye on every player. Apart from keeping an eye on each player, they offer a player based on how well they did in the league or how much advantage the team would gain by taking them. Every player wants to play for Real Madrid but many players are unable to join Real Madrid despite their desire due to not being able to show enough of their skills. I think Real Madrid will never sign a player unless they get a suitable player.

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June 22, 2023, 09:09:45 AM
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According to reports,Arsenal have competed the signing of Karl Harvetz from Chelsea in a deal worth about 60 million pounds.As an Arsenal fan,I am happy that Arsenal have made a signing in this transfer window,but I'm not happy it's Karl Harvetz,I was watching his pattern of play in YouTube,and I must confess,he might just be another Fabio Vierra in the Arsenal team.He is bought to play in thesame position with Odegard,but I don't see him starting for Arsenal,because at the moment,I don't think he can bench anyone in that starting line up.We have people like Smith Rowe who is fighting to  be a regular starter in the squad,and it hasn't been possible following the exceptional form of Martinelli on that wing.Nevertheless,it is not bad because he would add depth to the young squad.
Im happy with this news. Chelsea will able to maximizing the new striker. Havertz was helping chelsea so much in winning so many trophies but he is not fit to the chelsea right now as a striker. I know that if ST has not become his best position. He must be playing behind the attacker.
So many arsenal fans are feeling skeptical for this transfer but arteta may have different opinion regarding this transfer. 60 millions are good amounts of money for him consider he has experienced in so many competitions.
That's pretty much the same like jorginho transfer from chelsea. Let's see how good performance from havertz in arsenal. i don't put big expectation for havertz.
In my opinion that if the gunners fans shall not underestimate hvertz before he will be playing for chelsea.



Gallagher already linked to the brighton. This club seems interesting to sign him as a new player next season.

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June 22, 2023, 09:35:30 AM
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Yes Joselu is not enough to fill the Voids left by Benzema and i am sure the Real Madrid coach is aware. Like it is reported, i also agree that its better to wait an extra 9 months and sign Mbappe from PSG. And you never can tell, Madrid could sign Mbappe this summer too.
Ancelotti is aware of it, that's why he asked for a more striker to sign before the new season begins. But a rumor said that Perez thinks Real Madrid doesn't need more new players. I'm worried that Ancelotti may leave Real Madrid if he isn't allowed to sign a new striker. This situation is almost similar to Zidane's case, it triggered Zidane leaving Real Madrid at that time.

With Bellingham signed and modric renewed as well as kroos. I am sure Real Madrid are okay in the middle of the pack.
Real Madrid has no problem with the midfield line, they have many options there. There are many good midfielders, both old and young players. The problem of Real Madrid is in their defense and attacking lines.

joselu is a goal scorer, too, and not a bad player. He scored a few goals last season, but he is quite inexperienced in European competitions. Obviously, he is not up to the standard, and what Madrid needs is not just one average striker, but a highly rated, experienced striker who can play and promise an average of 20 to 30 goals per season, someone who can partner Vinicius properly. The two most significant strikers now on the market, Harry Kane and Victor Osimhen, will both blend in wonderfully.
Indeed. Joselu is actually a good striker, he can score many goals last season. But Real Madrid needs a striker who has a great experience in UCL, not only in the local league. Mbappe, Osimhen, Harry Kane, and Vlahovic are the strikers that will fit with the standard of Real Madrid main striker. Unfortunately, the prices of these strikers are expensive and their club managements are difficult to negotiate. They are expected to stay in their current clubs, so the chance to sign them looks a bit small.


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June 22, 2023, 10:41:48 AM
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Rushing is never good. If any work has to be done in haste, there will be mistakes in the work. In that case, Real Madrid should not make such a big mistake in signing any player, they keep an eye on every player. Apart from keeping an eye on each player, they offer a player based on how well they did in the league or how much advantage the team would gain by taking them. Every player wants to play for Real Madrid but many players are unable to join Real Madrid despite their desire due to not being able to show enough of their skills. I think Real Madrid will never sign a player unless they get a suitable player.
Real madrid has been making very good decision by signing a very cheap striker like joselu. So many madrid fans are skeptical but i do know that if this is a part of a strategy that owned by ancelotti and perez. If madrid can save up to 100 millions for mbappe for next year and why not? that's why real madrid was only taking joselu from espanyol as loan. Joselu was also very happy to play with madrid.
I think that if this gonna be one of the important thing. Madrid can use 100 millions of money for something better than giving it to the PSG. Mbappe's contract will end next year.
that will not gonna be a difficult task for madrid to attract mbappe to join in the club. Im supporting the decision by madrid to take joselu rather than rushing to get mbappe.

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June 22, 2023, 11:54:14 AM
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Real madrid has been making very good decision by signing a very cheap striker like joselu. So many madrid fans are skeptical but i do know that if this is a part of a strategy that owned by ancelotti and perez. If madrid can save up to 100 millions for mbappe for next year and why not? that's why real madrid was only taking joselu from espanyol as loan. Joselu was also very happy to play with madrid.
I think that if this gonna be one of the important thing. Madrid can use 100 millions of money for something better than giving it to the PSG. Mbappe's contract will end next year.
that will not gonna be a difficult task for madrid to attract mbappe to join in the club. Im supporting the decision by madrid to take joselu rather than rushing to get mbappe.

This is not related to saving the budget but indeed Madrid has no way to bring mbappe if they have a chance I believe Madrid is willing to pay more than 100 million
I know at this time the situation, Mbappe hasn't extended the contract and could have left next season but I don't think PSG will let him go just like that. They will do everything they can, including selling it at a cheaper price, assuming the extension of the contract is canceled, what is clear is that Madrid is not the main goal.

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June 22, 2023, 11:55:45 AM
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Real Madrid has no problem with the midfield line, they have many options there. There are many good midfielders, both old and young players. The problem of Real Madrid is in their defense and attacking lines.
Real Madrid were lacking so much in their defensive line last season that some players had to switch roles from playing in midfield and move to the defence to help out since they were not so many options to play that position, they made playing their original role a second option and played in the defence to start games. Some players like Camavinga. With more players in the team, more solid defensive options, Camavinga can move back to were he can also play very well which is the midfield.

Real Madrid did not have a goal scoring problem last season, since Benzema has left there was a need to get a new striker. With long term goals, Mbappe is who they have always wanted, since he wants to move, waiting for him with Joselu is okay. In games where Joselu cannot score, players like Vini jr, Rodrygo and others can score.

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June 22, 2023, 12:09:42 PM
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It looks like Manchester United have also joined the race for Declan Rice. Their deal is likely to be like money + Maguire or McTominay. Maybe not Maguire but McTominay might be favourable by West Ham side. Because Rice is also a defensive midfielder like McTominay so they might find it okay to think about it.

But of course the money part must be convincing for West Ham. Because Arsenal look ready to pay even 100 million euros for Rice now. As far as I have heard West Ham have been demanding around this amount. His market value is already 90 million euros and he is a young and solid player. I'm not surprised with this demand as a result.
Arsenal should understand that when you need a player's services, you simply have to be prepared to pay the team's asking price when they are keen on that price. Instead, they delayed concluding this Declan Rice's agreement, which produced all of this drama for themselves. Similar to how Arsenal lost Mudryk to Chelsea, when you hesitate to pay the asking price, another team may enter the fray in an attempt to sign the player. When they offer a better price and the offer is sufficiently persuasive, the team and player will quickly choose the better offer. They should have paid the 100m West ham was asking for when they were alone in the race but now that Manchester United have joined the race it may become difficult to secure this player. Arsenal needs to be more serious when buying a player.

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June 22, 2023, 12:12:19 PM
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According to some German news and SPORT1, İlkay Gündoğan is going to join Barcelona and everything is done.
He had offers from the Arabian team and he had offers from Manchester City to extend his contract but in the end, İlkay Gündoğan showed the green light to Barcelona.




Even before the season ended I knew he was going to leave Manchester City, tracked back to that game he missed the penalty and how Pep Josep Guardiola reacted, I knew they had Internal issues and would grace the chance to leave during the transfer window.
Man City made moves for Kovacic early even before the finals.

I'm no City fan, but I'll miss IIkay Gundogan honestly, he's so much of what is called creativity. But it does seem like Pep Guardiola won't miss him at all. He'll rather be a better help to Barcelona and bring balance and experience to the midfied. I'm sure of Barcelona still defending the La Liga next season.
Gundogan deserves everything that has to do with Barcelona, another player I expect to make the swith you City is Bernado Silva, fantastic player.

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June 22, 2023, 12:19:34 PM
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Exodus of the 2020-21 CL winners squad commences  Shocked

Seriously, it's quite crazy, here's the list of all Chelsea players who have won the Champions League sold or are going to be sold:

- Kai Havertz (just now)
- Kovacic (city)
- Kante (saudi league) <- soon to be followed by Zeyich and Mendy
- RLC
- Mount
- Pulisic
- Kepa ?

And when you consider how even more of Chelsea players left last season, it goes on to show that Chelsea squad really does have a short turnaround.

Its actually a good thing these Chelsea players are leaving Chelsea because most of them are either surplus to requirement or don't add much to the team. Players like Pulisic and Loftus-Cheek don't add much to the team. They're good players no doubt but they are not just as productive as they should be in Chelsea.
Kante is been plunged by injuries recently.
Another reason the squad overhaul is necessary is because the amount of players in Chelsea right now. There are so many players in Chelsea and they need to sell to stay on the positive side of the FFP rule. Hopefully Chelsea get things right this time around and so far they've been dong good business. 

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June 22, 2023, 12:20:27 PM
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Exodus of the 2020-21 CL winners squad commences  Shocked

Seriously, it's quite crazy, here's the list of all Chelsea players who have won the Champions League sold or are going to be sold:

- Kai Havertz (just now)
- Kovacic (city)
- Kante (saudi league) <- soon to be followed by Zeyich and Mendy
- RLC
- Mount
- Pulisic
- Kepa ?

And when you consider how even more of Chelsea players left last season, it goes on to show that Chelsea squad really does have a short turnaround.

TBH, its not that surprising actually if you ask me. We all know about the Chelsea situation with FFP and with deadline coming near which is on June 30th, it was evident they will sell most of the players. I think I have written about the situation somewhere last week, yeah got it [1]. Using your list and editing it to see how much Chelsea has recovered from the sales.

  • Kai Havertz >>> Arsenal : 70m Euro [fixed] + 6m Euro [add-ons] ✅
  • Kovacic >>> City: 30m Euro ✅
  • Kante >>> Al-Ittihad: Free ✅
  • Ziyech >>> Al-Nassr: Still in negotiation ⏳
  • Koulibaly >>> Al-Hilal: 25m Euro ⏳
  • Mendy >>>Al-Ahli: Both combined with Koulibaly deal reported to be 40m Euro ⏳
  • RLC >>> AC Milan interested (reports about 2-3 weeks ago) !?
  • Mount >>> Manchester United: Chelsea wants 60-65m Euro⏳
  • Pulisic [open to move]
  • Kepa [not sure if he is open to move but I think Chelsea will keep him]

Recovered: 100m Euro almost
In negotiation: Around 120m Euro
Target: 200m Euro of Player sales

Yeah, its bit crazy that they are letting go most of the players that helped them in CL in 2019 but right now that's the only way to get out of this FFP situation.
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