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July 22, 2023, 10:59:29 PM
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Update from romano regarding mbappe. PSG is willing to sell him asap. I think that being excluded from japan tourney has become a signal if PSG will not be using him next season. I think mbappe will be benched for the whole of season if he is still trying to stay in the club even longer.
Despite Mbappe causing the club to have different intentions, it can still be valued as high as before. Mbappe's market value was also very stable compoared with neymar. PSG has no reason for not to sell him in summer.

Let's wait what team that will be sending first bid for him. Im thinking real madrid will not even try bid on this. PSG has signed a bunch of new players. Mbappe may not be included in the starting lineup next season.


Not a surprise here as PSG have been clear in the beginning of the transfer window that either Mbappe has to sign contract or he will be sold in this transfer window. He had two weeks to decide and it seems two weeks has run out and it is for sure now. From PSG point of view, they are trying anything in order to get something out of Mbappe sale but since they have really took some harsh decision here, it seems like they are the ones at the losing end here.

Madrid seems like the likely destination now and I am also sure that behind the curtains, Mbappe and Madrid have already agreed to something. Will Mbappe backstab Madrid again like last time? I don't think so as Madrid is his dream club and he wouldn't want to lose it now if he were to sign contract extension again.

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I had heard that if some players of real madrid have been refusing mbappe's arrival to the club. These players are joselu, brahim diaz, vini even rodrygo. PSG has changed mbappe's status for sale starting from this day.
I would like to see EPL clubs try to get him from PSG.

Well that's an interesting report and would like to see a strong source about this. But I am sure that some of the fans will really be against it.
PSG considered selling Mbappe after the striker refused to extend his contract. Real Madrid still leads the race for Mbappe. Last year, they missed the opportunity to recruit him. As for Kylian Mbappe, this player has yet to make an official statement.
But I believe the French player has goodwill with Real Madrid and will join the Bernabeu next year. Is President Florentino Perez planning to welcome Mbappe for 0 dong and generously for the French striker? However, the Paris team will bring Real Madrid into the negotiations, and they have to export a lot of money.
Well, that's a win and lose situation for PSG. The club will not able to get money if mbappe will be leaving with free agent. It's dilemma for PSG and the best choice to sell him. as soon as possible and getting some money that can be used to buy the players again. Since mbappe has been refusing to extend his contract and PSG had no choice now. PSG has been also identifying if mbappe has been making personal agreement with real madrid for next year. It's a big lost for PSG if the player gonna leave from madrid with free agent. PSG doesn't even want it. We shall wait what's gonna be further development from his drama with PSG. My guess if there will be clubs that send him offer but not as big as PSG wanted.
What price asked by PSG is too much for the football club. It's PSG's fault to bought him with non sense price like that. The club feels how hard is to selling him right now. The only time can tell us.

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July 22, 2023, 11:24:54 PM
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There is even an expected offer to be made by Al-Hilal for Mbappe soon. They are preparing a deal with a transfer fee of 200 million euros. I can't even imagine how much they will pay for Mbappe's salary and other demands. But these all shouldn't still be enough to convince Mbappe to go to Saudi Arabia anyway.
Well, that's pretty interesting to wait how much first bid that will be coming from hilal. It looks so crazy to see thet saudi club is trying to get mbappe at such price. I meant the fact that if mbappe's price is very expensive even the european big club will think for twice before try to chase mbappe. I guess that if PSG will not even try to miss such opportunity to sell mbappe to the al hilal if such an offer will be true. Al hilal has not got yet great star after its offer being rejected by messi. It's the time for al hilal to at least pursue mbappe till he will be leaving from PSG and join in the al hilal in the future. PSG will let him go to the club that was able paying a lot of money for him. 200 millions are enough giving PSG a small profit while the club has been also getting benefit caused by mbappe has been playing for PSG a few years.

It is just too early for Mbappe to go there. I think it would be a big hit to his career just because he will make more money. I assume he doesn't want that now so he will turn that down.
It's not too early. Anything can happen. Can you expect european club to make a very big deal like that? It's not even chelsea wanna try to buy him at such price. I would like to see how it will be going on.
Mbappe's transfer saga may start soon. There will be so many fake rumors related to him.

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July 22, 2023, 11:25:44 PM
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Since Xavi didn't need Samuel Umtiti for the next season he asked his team to release this player and Barceona released Samuel Umtiti recently but very soon after leaving Barcelona Samuel Umtiti sign his contract with Lille. Samuel Umtiti is going to play for Lille in the next season after signing his contract with Lille for two years




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July 23, 2023, 12:03:52 AM
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It is just too early for Mbappe to go there. I think it would be a big hit to his career just because he will make more money. I assume he doesn't want that now so he will turn that down.
Mbappe would still make quite a lot of money if he stays in PSG or moves to Real Madrid, thus why would he move to the Saudi Pro League which is a less competitive league and effectively end his chances of winning the CL or the Ballon D'or. There is no chance in hell that Mbappe is going to switch to the Saudi Pro League, he is either going to be forced into signing a new contract with PSG or he is going to be sold to Real Madrid, these are the only two feasible options imo.
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July 23, 2023, 01:05:08 AM
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It is just too early for Mbappe to go there. I think it would be a big hit to his career just because he will make more money. I assume he doesn't want that now so he will turn that down.
It's not too early. Anything can happen. Can you expect european club to make a very big deal like that? It's not even chelsea wanna try to buy him at such price. I would like to see how it will be going on.
Mbappe's transfer saga may start soon. There will be so many fake rumors related to him.
I think Mbappe still has big ambitions in his career, so most likely he will turn down offers from Saudi and Qatari teams. It's not PSG who is in control at the moment, because if Mbappe does not want to extend the contract and also does not want to move to another team, then PSG will lose Mbappe with free agent status. What PSG should do is persuade Mbappe and of course set a reasonable price for him, so that there will be many big teams who are interested in signing Mbappe.

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July 23, 2023, 01:07:28 AM
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Since Xavi didn't need Samuel Umtiti for the next season he asked his team to release this player and Barceona released Samuel Umtiti recently but very soon after leaving Barcelona Samuel Umtiti sign his contract with Lille. Samuel Umtiti is going to play for Lille in the next season after signing his contract with Lille for two years




Xavi Hernandez did not include the former World Cup winner in his team this season; once his contract with the blaugrana was terminated, there was no single spot available for him; all he had to do was move on and find an improved environment where he could notice normally, regular gametime. It's disappointing to see Samuel Umtiti leave Camp Nou this summer and join Lille, a new French club. It's time for the tackling defender to make the most of his opportunity as a Lille player, time to go the gym and develop in all random fixed spots on the body, because he's signed for business this time.

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July 23, 2023, 01:44:41 AM
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Since Xavi didn't need Samuel Umtiti for the next season he asked his team to release this player and Barceona released Samuel Umtiti recently but very soon after leaving Barcelona Samuel Umtiti sign his contract with Lille. Samuel Umtiti is going to play for Lille in the next season after signing his contract with Lille for two years




Even last season, Samuel Umtiti rarely got minutes to play and it seemed as if his name had been removed from the squad first. I think this is the right decision for Umtiti to leave Barcelona and he also chose Lille as his new club next season. Actually, Umtiti's passion for playing football is still there today, but if he stays at Barcelona, maybe his services will no longer be used. Now the average Barcelona squad is filled with young players and Umtiti is almost 30 years old, maybe that's a consideration for Xavi not to choose him as a starter again. Well, whatever Umtiti chooses, I hope he can return to contribute to his new team and hope he gets back up again soon.

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July 23, 2023, 02:09:38 AM
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It is just too early for Mbappe to go there. I think it would be a big hit to his career just because he will make more money. I assume he doesn't want that now so he will turn that down.
It's not too early. Anything can happen. Can you expect european club to make a very big deal like that? It's not even chelsea wanna try to buy him at such price. I would like to see how it will be going on.
Mbappe's transfer saga may start soon. There will be so many fake rumors related to him.
I think Mbappe still has big ambitions in his career, so most likely he will turn down offers from Saudi and Qatari teams. It's not PSG who is in control at the moment, because if Mbappe does not want to extend the contract and also does not want to move to another team, then PSG will lose Mbappe with free agent status. What PSG should do is persuade Mbappe and of course set a reasonable price for him, so that there will be many big teams who are interested in signing Mbappe.
Maybe yes maybe not. My primary concern was on PSG . The club wanna try to sell him as soon as possible. €200 millions was not a small offer for him. If mbappe will not be willing to follow what already demanded by PSG and he will not get a place in the club next season.
Anything about him still remains very complicated at this moment. I don't even expect him to leave from the club easily. No response from him so far regarding PSG changed his status to the for sale yesterday.

Im feeling curous which club that will try to send bid for him. Arabian club has an interest in signing him but it seems like that liverpool wanna try to take a part in it. The only most difficult part to make sure mbappe wanna try to reach personal agreement with his buyer.
PSG needs to put more effort in convincing mbappe to leave from the club. Mbappe already stated he already agreed to leave as long as PSG paid his compensation.

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July 23, 2023, 02:29:06 AM
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Well, that's a win and lose situation for PSG. The club will not able to get money if mbappe will be leaving with free agent. It's dilemma for PSG and the best choice to sell him. as soon as possible and getting some money that can be used to buy the players again. Since mbappe has been refusing to extend his contract and PSG had no choice now. PSG has been also identifying if mbappe has been making personal agreement with real madrid for next year. It's a big lost for PSG if the player gonna leave from madrid with free agent. PSG doesn't even want it. We shall wait what's gonna be further development from his drama with PSG. My guess if there will be clubs that send him offer but not as big as PSG wanted.
What price asked by PSG is too much for the football club. It's PSG's fault to bought him with non sense price like that. The club feels how hard is to selling him right now. The only time can tell us.
After declaring that he did not want to renew, Mbappe was no longer part of PSG's plans. They also confirmed they would sell him. But PSG's transfer plan encounters obstacles. As far as I know, the PSG club cannot sell Mbappe if he disagrees. Mbappe finds it hard to accept for PSG to sell him. Because that also means he doesn't get 80 million euros in loyalty bonuses. In addition, leaving PSG at this time also prevents Mbappe from receiving a contract bonus from the club that signed him on free form next year. Mbappe's calculation is also a big obstacle for any club that wants him.
PSG is no longer negotiating. They decided to exclude Mbappe from the Asia tour and pressured him to accept the transfer. Tensions between PSG and Mbappe are increasing.

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July 23, 2023, 03:43:22 AM
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Arsenal and Chelsea are battling it out for the possibility bof signing Kudus from Ajax,a 22 year old attacking midfielder who currently is regarded as one of the best attacking midfielder in Europe.According to reports,Chelsea are already in the verge of agreeing personal terms with the player,but that might just be different now that Arsenal have entered the race to add up backup to Martin Odegard who is currently the gunner's captain.It is believed that if Arsenal should hold serious Interest in the player,they would have upper hand over Chelsea because they offer champions league football,while Chelsea is not in any European competition,and therefore,the player will choose a side that offers European competition over the other one that doesn't.Nevertheless,any deal for Kudus might be on whether Partey leaves Arsenal or not.

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July 23, 2023, 05:08:44 AM
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Mbappe may have reached a verbal agreement with Real Madrid and upon reaching a verbal agreement, asked Real Madrid for some time so that he could be released and then join Real Madrid, in which case Real Madrid may have accepted Mbappe's terms and given Mbappe one more season. Since Mbappé is very unlikely to stay at PSG, PSG should plan without Mbappé. And PSG may be planning how to prevent Mbappe from changing clubs as a free agent. In other cases where the club has full rights but in Mbappe's case it is completely different Mbappe's behavior seems like the club is responsible to him and not to the club. Maybe he will join Real Madrid as a free agent member as planned by Real Madrid. PSG may not be able to block Mbappe from changing clubs as a free agent.
This is business, if he wants to play somewhere else, he has every right to do that. But at the same time, the team has every right to try to sell him, or even if they want to, just bench him all season long, making him miss a whole season of his career which would be bad overall. Think about it, you are a player with a chance to have top 5 goal scoring ever career, and you miss a whole season, like injury but you are not injured neither, you get to play no games. They are free to do that if they want to, nobody could force them to play him.

Considering how rich the owner is, he could just ask for that out of spite and he wouldn't even feel the payment, it's nothing for him. That way Mbappe would still go to Real if he wants to, but he would be lacking about 14 months of matches when that happens.

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July 23, 2023, 05:33:53 AM
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There is even an expected offer to be made by Al-Hilal for Mbappe soon. They are preparing a deal with a transfer fee of 200 million euros. I can't even imagine how much they will pay for Mbappe's salary and other demands. But these all shouldn't still be enough to convince Mbappe to go to Saudi Arabia anyway.

It is just too early for Mbappe to go there. I think it would be a big hit to his career just because he will make more money. I assume he doesn't want that now so he will turn that down.

Kylian Mbappe brilliance is just too much, we need more of his show in European Football Competition. It'll be so dump of Kylian Mbappe to accept a deal from Al-Hilal. Has he already decided to make his move off Paris Saint Germany already? Even if he has a move to Saudi Arabia is not appealing to me. Real Madrid has already spent huge on Jude Bellingham, I see they can't get him already as they're reluctant over the players chase.

He's yet to win the Champions League, and that hes been struggling with Paris Saint Germans to win but so much failures since he moved to Paris Saint Germany from Monaco.

As far as I'm concerned, Kylian Mbappe will definitely say no to this, he has a very big future in Europe and lots of trophies to win. But most importantly, it's the right thing to see him leaving PSG. He shouldn't follow the foot steps of his idol ( Cristiano Ronaldo ) rather, he should go ahead and write his own chapter and story.

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July 23, 2023, 05:46:35 AM
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PSG believe that Mbappe has already reached a verbal agreement with Real Madrid for a free transfer. PSG are at the point of no return about Mbappe's future now seemingly. They waited for an answer from Mbappe about what he is going to do with his future and there has been no answer. From now on PSG have decided to do the sensible thing they should do. They are open to hear about any kind of formula from other teams for Mbappe from now on. The main goal is to not send him for free now.

However I don't believe Real Madrid will make an offer this summer as long as there is none from others. PSG had better hope for other rich teams to intervene and fire up the race for Mbappe.
Mbappe may have reached a verbal agreement with Real Madrid and upon reaching a verbal agreement, asked Real Madrid for some time so that he could be released and then join Real Madrid, in which case Real Madrid may have accepted Mbappe's terms and given Mbappe one more season. Since Mbappé is very unlikely to stay at PSG, PSG should plan without Mbappé. And PSG may be planning how to prevent Mbappe from changing clubs as a free agent. In other cases where the club has full rights but in Mbappe's case it is completely different Mbappe's behavior seems like the club is responsible to him and not to the club. Maybe he will join Real Madrid as a free agent member as planned by Real Madrid. PSG may not be able to block Mbappe from changing clubs as a free agent.
Personal verbal agreement reach between Real Madrid and Mbappe but he will joins Madrid upcoming next season until his contract over with PSG, its normal what happen with Mbappe after rejecting extend contract with PSG and he will be free agent next season. Difficult position for PSG because can't sell Mbappe with price they want due Madrid have withdrew for signing Mbappe and prefer waiting until become free agent next season.

PSG have been suspend Mbappe after removing from squad tour to Japan, will Mbappe not registered in Ligue 1 and Champion League season 2023/24 if not extend contract?

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July 23, 2023, 08:48:27 AM
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Henderson and Fabinho are other members of Liverpool who are about to leave the team soon. If I'm not mistaken they have been both monitored by Saudi Arabian teams and offered a deal as well. This means that Liverpool will need to look for a new defensive midfielder and a central midfielder. Both of them played in nearly all league matches last season.

There are more alternatives in the central midfield but it isn't the case for defensive midfield. There will be only Bajcetic left whose main position is defensive midfielder. He is only 18 years old now and I don't think he can be trusted in the starting eleven yet. Just as Harvey Elliott he also needs to put a lot more into his performance.

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July 23, 2023, 08:56:38 AM
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There is even an expected offer to be made by Al-Hilal for Mbappe soon. They are preparing a deal with a transfer fee of 200 million euros. I can't even imagine how much they will pay for Mbappe's salary and other demands. But these all shouldn't still be enough to convince Mbappe to go to Saudi Arabia anyway.

It is just too early for Mbappe to go there. I think it would be a big hit to his career just because he will make more money. I assume he doesn't want that now so he will turn that down.
Al-Hilal should already know that it will be a futile effort if they offer Mbappe any amount no matter how insane it might be.
Mbappe is at the center of his career;
Mbappe is very ambitious;
Mbappe wants to win the Balloon d'or
Mbappe wants to break records;
Mbappe wants to set records;
So, Saudi is not for him yet.

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July 23, 2023, 09:12:44 AM
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Henderson and Fabinho are other members of Liverpool who are about to leave the team soon. If I'm not mistaken they have been both monitored by Saudi Arabian teams and offered a deal as well. This means that Liverpool will need to look for a new defensive midfielder and a central midfielder. Both of them played in nearly all league matches last season.
Romeo Lavia is in serious talks with Liverpool to replace Jordan Henderson. Southampton want £50m. There is news that Liverpool are objecting to the amount Southampton are asking for.

There are more alternatives in the central midfield but it isn't the case for defensive midfield. There will be only Bajcetic left whose main position is defensive midfielder. He is only 18 years old now and I don't think he can be trusted in the starting eleven yet. Just as Harvey Elliott he also needs to put a lot more into his performance.
Trent Alexander-Arnold can be used as an alternative to occupy a defensive midfielder and Curtes Jones is also suitable to be entrusted in Liverpool's starting line eleven if Stefan Bajcetic is considered too young to be placed in a defensive midfield position because Mac Allister our new signing this season is positioned as a central midfielder.

TA has been tried several times by Jurgen Klopp last season in the DM position and we think TA successfully performed his role when played in that position.

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July 23, 2023, 09:17:46 AM
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There is even an expected offer to be made by Al-Hilal for Mbappe soon. They are preparing a deal with a transfer fee of 200 million euros. I can't even imagine how much they will pay for Mbappe's salary and other demands. But these all shouldn't still be enough to convince Mbappe to go to Saudi Arabia anyway.

It is just too early for Mbappe to go there. I think it would be a big hit to his career just because he will make more money. I assume he doesn't want that now so he will turn that down.
Al-Hilal should already know that it will be a futile effort if they offer Mbappe any amount no matter how insane it might be.
Mbappe is at the center of his career;
Mbappe is very ambitious;
Mbappe wants to win the Balloon d'or
Mbappe wants to break records;
Mbappe wants to set records;
So, Saudi is not for him yet.
Where's the source if Mbappe wants to win Ballon d'Or, break records, and set records? he should joined Real Madrid 4 years ago if he was interested with career achievements.

PSG will not accept if the transfer is only 200 Million Euros, they've sign Neymar for 222 Million Euros in 2017, obviously the money value between 2017 and 2023 are different. Maybe 222 Million Euros is worth for 250 Million Euros, Al-Hilal just need to submit bid 300 Million Euros for Mbappe, they might be interested.
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July 23, 2023, 09:51:58 AM
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Well, that's a win and lose situation for PSG. The club will not able to get money if mbappe will be leaving with free agent. It's dilemma for PSG and the best choice to sell him. as soon as possible and getting some money that can be used to buy the players again. Since mbappe has been refusing to extend his contract and PSG had no choice now. PSG has been also identifying if mbappe has been making personal agreement with real madrid for next year. It's a big lost for PSG if the player gonna leave from madrid with free agent. PSG doesn't even want it. We shall wait what's gonna be further development from his drama with PSG. My guess if there will be clubs that send him offer but not as big as PSG wanted.
What price asked by PSG is too much for the football club. It's PSG's fault to bought him with non sense price like that. The club feels how hard is to selling him right now. The only time can tell us.
After declaring that he did not want to renew, Mbappe was no longer part of PSG's plans. They also confirmed they would sell him. But PSG's transfer plan encounters obstacles. As far as I know, the PSG club cannot sell Mbappe if he disagrees. Mbappe finds it hard to accept for PSG to sell him. Because that also means he doesn't get 80 million euros in loyalty bonuses. In addition, leaving PSG at this time also prevents Mbappe from receiving a contract bonus from the club that signed him on free form next year. Mbappe's calculation is also a big obstacle for any club that wants him.
PSG is no longer negotiating. They decided to exclude Mbappe from the Asia tour and pressured him to accept the transfer. Tensions between PSG and Mbappe are increasing.
discussing the problems related to PSG and Mbappe will indeed be endless and the closer to the closing of the transfer window it gets more complicated. if I become a PSG official I will more comply with what Mbappe wants I mean if he wants to leave PSG just do what he wants. because at the moment PSG is too focused on the Mbappe problem to the point where they don't have time to think about how to increase the strength in every arrangement in this PSG team.
so instead of thinking about endless problems it's better to let go of those problems. because PSG is currently known as a team that is very rich and needs reliable player or coach to be able to achieve their dreams in the champions league and getting some new, more reliable players will be better than continuing to press on the Mbappe problem.
to be honest, every day we always talk about Mbappe uncertain transfers and PSG definitely have to put more pressure on definite rules or policies not to press the problem so that it will be over soon and PSG will soon get their best player again.

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July 23, 2023, 10:29:57 AM
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Well, that's a win and lose situation for PSG. The club will not able to get money if mbappe will be leaving with free agent. It's dilemma for PSG and the best choice to sell him. as soon as possible and getting some money that can be used to buy the players again. Since mbappe has been refusing to extend his contract and PSG had no choice now. PSG has been also identifying if mbappe has been making personal agreement with real madrid for next year. It's a big lost for PSG if the player gonna leave from madrid with free agent. PSG doesn't even want it. We shall wait what's gonna be further development from his drama with PSG. My guess if there will be clubs that send him offer but not as big as PSG wanted.
What price asked by PSG is too much for the football club. It's PSG's fault to bought him with non sense price like that. The club feels how hard is to selling him right now. The only time can tell us.
After declaring that he did not want to renew, Mbappe was no longer part of PSG's plans. They also confirmed they would sell him. But PSG's transfer plan encounters obstacles. As far as I know, the PSG club cannot sell Mbappe if he disagrees. Mbappe finds it hard to accept for PSG to sell him. Because that also means he doesn't get 80 million euros in loyalty bonuses. In addition, leaving PSG at this time also prevents Mbappe from receiving a contract bonus from the club that signed him on free form next year. Mbappe's calculation is also a big obstacle for any club that wants him.
PSG is no longer negotiating. They decided to exclude Mbappe from the Asia tour and pressured him to accept the transfer. Tensions between PSG and Mbappe are increasing.
discussing the problems related to PSG and Mbappe will indeed be endless and the closer to the closing of the transfer window it gets more complicated. if I become a PSG official I will more comply with what Mbappe wants I mean if he wants to leave PSG just do what he wants. because at the moment PSG is too focused on the Mbappe problem to the point where they don't have time to think about how to increase the strength in every arrangement in this PSG team.
so instead of thinking about endless problems it's better to let go of those problems. because PSG is currently known as a team that is very rich and needs reliable player or coach to be able to achieve their dreams in the champions league and getting some new, more reliable players will be better than continuing to press on the Mbappe problem.
to be honest, every day we always talk about Mbappe uncertain transfers and PSG definitely have to put more pressure on definite rules or policies not to press the problem so that it will be over soon and PSG will soon get their best player again.

@len01 this is one saga that neither parties should have encouraged yet they’re making a public scene and this is probably going to derail PSG season so I’m waiting to see who’ll back off first. Furthermore if PSG can’t sell him and waste him on the bench then it’s one of the biggest financial mistake of all time because he’ll be taking home lots of money for doing nothing hence PSG should slash their price and sell him off quickly.
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July 23, 2023, 11:02:31 AM
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Arsenal and Chelsea are battling it out for the possibility bof signing Kudus from Ajax,a 22 year old attacking midfielder who currently is regarded as one of the best attacking midfielder in Europe.According to reports,Chelsea are already in the verge of agreeing personal terms with the player,but that might just be different now that Arsenal have entered the race to add up backup to Martin Odegard who is currently the gunner's captain.It is believed that if Arsenal should hold serious Interest in the player,they would have upper hand over Chelsea because they offer champions league football,while Chelsea is not in any European competition,and therefore,the player will choose a side that offers European competition over the other one that doesn't.Nevertheless,any deal for Kudus might be on whether Partey leaves Arsenal or not.
The competition between them for this player will be very interesting, and I see maybe Arsenal could be one step ahead in getting this player by joining them in European competition, in this case the Champions League. Certainly a player wants more competition, I know that the Premier League is a very competitive league, but it would be a plus if they could appear in a competition like the Champions League. But we will see what these two clubs will do to make them get the players they want. A personal approach is needed in this case, because maybe they will be more appreciated and choose that club.

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