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June 20, 2017, 04:47:13 AM
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Nemgun, I have read some comments that Maidsafe is taking too long in deploying the official release of their project, is this a concern for NVO and will it be affecting you seriously in any way?

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June 20, 2017, 05:58:17 AM
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Nemgun, I have read some comments that Maidsafe is taking too long in deploying the official release of their project, is this a concern for NVO and will it be affecting you seriously in any way?

This is a big concern to me.  Maidsafe is promising the moon on a stick: a new internet based on a DHT and no blockchain.   We know this technology, have serious doubts and question such a claim. They have not released anything substantial and everyone is waiting and waiting.

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June 20, 2017, 06:00:46 AM
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There will be no centralized processor because you already have it on your computer, and the program that will use it is called safebrowser (before it was safelauncher), it is it that connects you to safenetwork and that encrypts your data To secure them.
The only flaw that I had that I resolved is that the person who had to send the private key to the safenetwork could crack it, or even keep it on his computer, this is why it will be encrypted in double sha256, and the one that looks like a blockchain will have access to the decryption key.


Does this mean the private key(s) of the validator would be generated locally on Bob's or Alice's system?
But if that's the case, one could easily attach a debugger and see those private key values before they could even be encrypted and stored on safenetwork.
Perhaps I misunderstood something.


When alice wants to put an order, it is the blockchain that will put it in place and it will send a smart contract, everything will come from the blockchain, the smart contract is more to send to safenet and add more security. It can also be seen as a sidechaine.

So the blockchain generates the keypair?  That implies that the keypair is generated on every peer, which would be insecure.  The key generation has to happen somewhere.  Is this the point where your whole project falls apart and everyone whose invested starts crying?  You need to do better explaining how this can possibly work, otherwise we all end up bag holding either nothing or a non-decentralized exchange.

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June 20, 2017, 06:08:26 AM
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Hi Sir/Mam,
Kindly advice how to confirm my contribution went through.

Currently my contribution does not reflect in my account private Altcoins addresses .
Ethereum:
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https://etherscan.io/tx/0xdf891fe8f53e5069bedf2492cae6101e6490af4b2cebfe1e552a913af1c0e621


Thanks and regards,

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June 20, 2017, 09:12:30 AM
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Hi Sir/Mam,
Kindly advice how to confirm my contribution went through.

Currently my contribution does not reflect in my account private Altcoins addresses .
Ethereum:
0xf3b521ed63565025396bafd8f2cd78045a25c6f3


https://etherscan.io/tx/0xdf891fe8f53e5069bedf2492cae6101e6490af4b2cebfe1e552a913af1c0e621


Thanks and regards,



Your ethereum address must be from https://www.myetherwallet.com wallet and you will need to add the nvo token to your watch list.

The information below is from https://www.myetherwallet.com website

A Token Creation Period (ICO) may cause delays in transactions on June 20 2PM - 8PM GMT. What time is it now?
If your TX is not urgent, we recommend waiting for faster & cheaper TXs. You can also use a gas price of 50 GWEI, which you can adjust in the footer. Thank you for understanding.
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June 20, 2017, 10:16:20 AM
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saqwe - it is possible answer my two questions? Smiley
1. private keys = backup phrase? (e.g. bitpay uses as backup just this phrase or it is possible to export private key from bitpay e.g. like is in paper wallet?)
2. who will guarantee 99 cents for NVOS? It would be possible to sell it e.g. on poloniex? If so, who will guarantee price? because every week there will be lots ot NVOS tokens for sale ... if price on poloniex cant be fixed at 99 cents, how could people sell it in this price?
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June 20, 2017, 11:17:27 AM
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Hello i already logged in and already entered a btc address but when i press the home button it returns me too log in again i tried it thrice already. is there something im missing in logging in?.. thanks
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June 20, 2017, 11:34:26 AM
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How is the value of ICO deposits calculated? For instance if I buy 200 LTC worth today, will it go by USD value at the end of the crowdsale or at the time it is deposited?
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June 20, 2017, 11:44:31 AM
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Hi Saqwe

I have accidentally used my ripple wallet gatehub to sent BTC to my crowdsale dashboard Bitcoin Escrow address.

I was suppose to sent the BTC my Personal bitcoin address first then to the bitcoin Escrow.

In the dashboard i have also contributed XRP.
 
Pls advice what next.

Best Regards



Hi Sir/Mam,
Kindly advice how to confirm my contribution went through.

Currently my contribution does not reflect in my account private Altcoins addresses .
Ethereum:
0xf3b521ed63565025396bafd8f2cd78045a25c6f3


https://etherscan.io/tx/0xdf891fe8f53e5069bedf2492cae6101e6490af4b2cebfe1e552a913af1c0e621


Thanks and regards,



Your ethereum address must be from https://www.myetherwallet.com wallet and you will need to add the nvo token to your watch list.

The information below is from https://www.myetherwallet.com website

A Token Creation Period (ICO) may cause delays in transactions on June 20 2PM - 8PM GMT. What time is it now?
If your TX is not urgent, we recommend waiting for faster & cheaper TXs. You can also use a gas price of 50 GWEI, which you can adjust in the footer. Thank you for understanding.

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Is there a way to change my BTC address in my portal? I was going to use the Jaxx address but seems like Counterwallet is the best and safest way. It failed to import and move the fund over when I tried.

Might help to put some FAQ in OP BTW.

Yani is not here for now, but it would be better if you join the slack, he will guide you there. Once there PM him.

Thanks. I saw an 8 steps or something but I'd rather just send BTC to my counterwallet to be safe. So can't change BTC address on the portal once it's assigned?

Yes you can change it, but it is not required as you did everything right, but if you have doubts, you could check with Yani on slack.





Nemgun, I have read some comments that Maidsafe is taking too long in deploying the official release of their project, is this a concern for NVO and will it be affecting you seriously in any way?
Nemgun, I have read some comments that Maidsafe is taking too long in deploying the official release of their project, is this a concern for NVO and will it be affecting you seriously in any way?

This is a big concern to me.  Maidsafe is promising the moon on a stick: a new internet based on a DHT and no blockchain.   We know this technology, have serious doubts and question such a claim. They have not released anything substantial and everyone is waiting and waiting.

We have about 4 months to finish the exchange and the validator as we have engagements regarding the investors, partners, and community. If MaidSafe isn't ready untill there, we said that we will offer to help them, if they refuse, we will go for a different option, like Radix, or create our own system, which would need about 2-3 months of intencive work.

The idea is to form a team that will be sufficiently experienced to make good progress on the project and to help other projects that may need it.

As you know we secured the funds with milestones because the money can make you crazy, that's why the goal is to deliver 100% of the project in 10 months if there is no SafeNet. And to be sure that the funds are not misused, because many projects end up finishing without delivering the project because they have been too late to issue.





There will be no centralized processor because you already have it on your computer, and the program that will use it is called safebrowser (before it was safelauncher), it is it that connects you to safenetwork and that encrypts your data To secure them.
The only flaw that I had that I resolved is that the person who had to send the private key to the safenetwork could crack it, or even keep it on his computer, this is why it will be encrypted in double sha256, and the one that looks like a blockchain will have access to the decryption key.


Does this mean the private key(s) of the validator would be generated locally on Bob's or Alice's system?
But if that's the case, one could easily attach a debugger and see those private key values before they could even be encrypted and stored on safenetwork.
Perhaps I misunderstood something.


When alice wants to put an order, it is the blockchain that will put it in place and it will send a smart contract, everything will come from the blockchain, the smart contract is more to send to safenet and add more security. It can also be seen as a sidechaine.

So the blockchain generates the keypair?  That implies that the keypair is generated on every peer, which would be insecure.  The key generation has to happen somewhere.  Is this the point where your whole project falls apart and everyone whose invested starts crying?  You need to do better explaining how this can possibly work, otherwise we all end up bag holding either nothing or a non-decentralized exchange.

For now i see no one crying, and no one asking for a refund.
NVO won't insult her investors, no one will be a bag holder.

I understand what you say and it's normal to panic about it. But I would ask you to erase what's in your head, just two minutes.

Imagine that we are in a room you and me, and that we have made a program for a system of probability. And we do not want to know the result, first we are going to do the program that flips a coin randomly, except that if we want to see the result, it must be recorded to be able to read it, except that In this case, the result must go to the safenet.
The first question is that we have made the algorithm, we know it, and have the decryption key, except that to be sure not to know the key, we will ask the blockchain to generate a random decryption key, and give us a smart contract, it will convey the coin to safenet.

So the smart contract is only the vehicle of the coin that we fliped. The computation will be used to flip the piece elsewhere. We will not have the decryption key.






Hi Sir/Mam,
Kindly advice how to confirm my contribution went through.

Currently my contribution does not reflect in my account private Altcoins addresses .
Ethereum:
0xf3b521ed63565025396bafd8f2cd78045a25c6f3


https://etherscan.io/tx/0xdf891fe8f53e5069bedf2492cae6101e6490af4b2cebfe1e552a913af1c0e621


Thanks and regards,



Do not worry about that, as long as the transaction appears on a block explorer there is not problem. feel free to join on slack if you have more issues.





saqwe - it is possible answer my two questions? Smiley
1. private keys = backup phrase? (e.g. bitpay uses as backup just this phrase or it is possible to export private key from bitpay e.g. like is in paper wallet?)
2. who will guarantee 99 cents for NVOS? It would be possible to sell it e.g. on poloniex? If so, who will guarantee price? because every week there will be lots ot NVOS tokens for sale ... if price on poloniex cant be fixed at 99 cents, how could people sell it in this price?

1- You should use counterwallet to solve this issue with no hussle.
2-NVO will guarantee the price, as NVO will buy them back. Not possible to be listed on Poloniex, at first it will be hosted on counterparty, and later added to NVO exchange.





Hello i already logged in and already entered a btc address but when i press the home button it returns me too log in again i tried it thrice already. is there something im missing in logging in?.. thanks

Can you please join Slack ? This kind of issues are managed there.





How is the value of ICO deposits calculated? For instance if I buy 200 LTC worth today, will it go by USD value at the end of the crowdsale or at the time it is deposited?

The calculation will be done at the end of the crowdsale timer.





Hi Saqwe

I have accidentally used my ripple wallet gatehub to sent BTC to my crowdsale dashboard Bitcoin Escrow address.

I was suppose to sent the BTC my Personal bitcoin address first then to the bitcoin Escrow.

In the dashboard i have also contributed XRP.
 
Pls advice what next.

Best Regards



Hi Sir/Mam,
Kindly advice how to confirm my contribution went through.

Currently my contribution does not reflect in my account private Altcoins addresses .
Ethereum:
0xf3b521ed63565025396bafd8f2cd78045a25c6f3


https://etherscan.io/tx/0xdf891fe8f53e5069bedf2492cae6101e6490af4b2cebfe1e552a913af1c0e621


Thanks and regards,



Your ethereum address must be from https://www.myetherwallet.com wallet and you will need to add the nvo token to your watch list.

The information below is from https://www.myetherwallet.com website

A Token Creation Period (ICO) may cause delays in transactions on June 20 2PM - 8PM GMT. What time is it now?
If your TX is not urgent, we recommend waiting for faster & cheaper TXs. You can also use a gas price of 50 GWEI, which you can adjust in the footer. Thank you for understanding.


Please join Slack and PM Yani, he will you with this issue.
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June 20, 2017, 12:12:14 PM
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Hi Sir/Mam,
Kindly advice how to confirm my contribution went through.

Currently my contribution does not reflect in my account private Altcoins addresses .
Ethereum:
0xf3b521ed63565025396bafd8f2cd78045a25c6f3


https://etherscan.io/tx/0xdf891fe8f53e5069bedf2492cae6101e6490af4b2cebfe1e552a913af1c0e621


Thanks and regards,



Your ethereum address must be from https://www.myetherwallet.com wallet and you will need to add the nvo token to your watch list.

The information below is from https://www.myetherwallet.com website

A Token Creation Period (ICO) may cause delays in transactions on June 20 2PM - 8PM GMT. What time is it now?
If your TX is not urgent, we recommend waiting for faster & cheaper TXs. You can also use a gas price of 50 GWEI, which you can adjust in the footer. Thank you for understanding.



Thanks.. Had already added nvo token to my watch list. Will the token balance only be reflected after the crowdsale?
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June 20, 2017, 02:23:06 PM
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Hello i already logged in and already entered a btc address but when i press the home button it returns me too log in again i tried it thrice already. is there something im missing in logging in?.. thanks

May be site fatal 404 error passed in the website due to crawler spikes. You can clear the cache and try to log in again. If there is coding bug popped up means you can write a text to site support or the moderators who is tech savy to help you.
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June 20, 2017, 02:29:35 PM
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I used CPS wallet to send bitcoin to join the crowdsale, is that ok?
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June 20, 2017, 05:11:23 PM
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How is the value of ICO deposits calculated? For instance if I buy 200 LTC worth today, will it go by USD value at the end of the crowdsale or at the time it is deposited?

I was thinking about the same thing and didnt got any answer regarding it. Will be joining the slack soon and will be discussing this. In the meantime, promoting NVO more on Twitter.

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June 20, 2017, 05:28:56 PM
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How is the value of ICO deposits calculated? For instance if I buy 200 LTC worth today, will it go by USD value at the end of the crowdsale or at the time it is deposited?

I was thinking about the same thing and didnt got any answer regarding it. Will be joining the slack soon and will be discussing this. In the meantime, promoting NVO more on Twitter.

This was answered by nemgun earlier. See for yourself:
How is the value of ICO deposits calculated? For instance if I buy 200 LTC worth today, will it go by USD value at the end of the crowdsale or at the time it is deposited?

The calculation will be done at the end of the crowdsale timer.


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June 20, 2017, 07:38:33 PM
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saqwe - it is possible answer my two questions? Smiley
1. private keys = backup phrase? (e.g. bitpay uses as backup just this phrase or it is possible to export private key from bitpay e.g. like is in paper wallet?)
2. who will guarantee 99 cents for NVOS? It would be possible to sell it e.g. on poloniex? If so, who will guarantee price? because every week there will be lots ot NVOS tokens for sale ... if price on poloniex cant be fixed at 99 cents, how could people sell it in this price?

1- You should use counterwallet to solve this issue with no hussle.
2-NVO will guarantee the price, as NVO will buy them back. Not possible to be listed on Poloniex, at first it will be hosted on counterparty, and later added to NVO exchange.




huge thx for answers, but ...
- bitpay is recommended by NVO .. but ok, i can use counterwallet
- why on earth would buy NVO back NVOS? Why cant they send directly btc?!
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June 20, 2017, 08:11:02 PM
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How is the value of ICO deposits calculated? For instance if I buy 200 LTC worth today, will it go by USD value at the end of the crowdsale or at the time it is deposited?

I was thinking about the same thing and didnt got any answer regarding it. Will be joining the slack soon and will be discussing this. In the meantime, promoting NVO more on Twitter.
Anyone getting confused on that matter, NVO team will calculate the value of your coins at the end of the crowdsale – meaning if you invest 200 LTC today (at $46.25 as of now), at the end of the ICO you will get what is worth of those 200 LTC (at $50 per LTC, for example). They didn't state that funds would be fixed at the time of depositing.


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June 20, 2017, 10:55:14 PM
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Hi Folks:

Interesting project here... looks pretty good so far.

I am still reading thru all the ANN thread to be sure I understand everything before investing, but time running short LOL and I'm still only on page 33 at the moment, so I wanted to jump ahead here to the end and ask a question (hope this is not a repeat of anything earlier, apologies if so...)

Anyway, SO, okay... I understand I need to use a bitcoin address where I have the private key FOR SURE, for this to work in the future.

I used VANITYGEN to make up my own custom "1nvo..." address for this.  So far so good.  Was able to import this address into a web wallet for SENDING the bitcoins, so that should be okay?  And/OR if in the future there's any problem about whatever web wallet I'll use for this (OmniWallet or blockchain.info, whatever) as long as I have preserved the priv key everything should be okay to access my NVO value in whatever other way is best at that time (the NVO wallet itself, presumably...?)

My QUESTION is about the CounterWallet alternative, that's also been noted earlier in this thread.

I made a wallet account there and looked to see IF it was possible to add my VANITY ADDRESS via private key, BUT it appears that CounterWallet only will SWEEP a balance from an entered private key and put the funds, instead, onto it's OWN address???  Repeat: CounterWallet does not seem to be able to directly "ADD" a bitcoin address using a private key (unless I misunderstood something there?)

So, Is this correct?

And, if so, please clarify my understanding that THIS IS NOT what we need for correct working of the crowdsale... yes?

On the contrary -- seems to me that use of the CounterWallet address is ONLY advised to be by way of their OWN address in the wallet (albeit, yes, they provide private key) and ONLY because this wallet will allow us to "SEE" our NVO tokens right away (as "counterparty" assets?) whereas using another wallet and bitcoin private key will require us to WAIT a bit (but, how long?) to be able to see our purchased tokens, after the crowdsale is over....?

Again, is my understanding of this correct?  Please advise.

Bottom line, I'd prefer to use my custom vanity address for this IF possible, as long as it won't take TOO long after the crowdsale is over to be able to confirm my purchase in the NVO wallet itself: if it's gonna be MONTHS later, well, then maybe it'd be better to use the address provided in the CounterWallet system instead.

Thanks in advance for reply.

Hope this was clear enough question LOL

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June 20, 2017, 11:13:17 PM
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Interesting, can anyone give me a rundown as to why you went with Maidsafe?
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June 20, 2017, 11:31:04 PM
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Interesting, can anyone give me a rundown as to why you went with Maidsafe?

Watch the interview on Youtube, it's an interesting video

They choose Maidsafe because they are already working on a decentralized network, so it's less work for them
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