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December 12, 2017, 06:20:06 PM |
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Quite the contrary. God isn't outsmarted by people. He simply does what you would do with firmly obstinate kids. He lets them go on to their destruction. God isn't outsmarted by this, because many of His other children will remain His.
Why even make these kids if he knows they will destroy themselves? Is your god a sadist? Didn't you forget the part about them being His children? Take a look at children that you and your woman make. They are like you. You know that they will die some time in the future... at least that is what experience has taught us. So why do you make them? Just so that they will die some time? People make kids so that they will have a period of enjoyment here in this life, and so that they will live in joy, forever, with God and each other in Heaven. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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December 12, 2017, 06:21:05 PM |
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Evolution in the sense that evolutionary scientists talk, is a non-C&E thing. Therefore it doesn't exist like they say.
So all the smart people are wrong, and one internet troll is right. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Yeah, nearly all scientists support the theory of evolution. But one internet troll is smarter than literally millions of scientists who have spent their entire lives studying multiple data points. >A 2009 poll by Pew Research Center found that "Nearly all scientists (97%) say humans and other living things have evolved over time – 87% say evolution is due to natural processes, such as natural selection.
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December 12, 2017, 06:21:12 PM |
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Evolution in the sense that evolutionary scientists talk, is a non-C&E thing. Therefore it doesn't exist like they say.
So all the smart people are wrong, and one internet troll is right. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Evolution is the best theory we have about where we came from. Well, actually, you have at least a few other Internet trolls that seem to agree with you. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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December 12, 2017, 06:22:00 PM |
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Why even make these kids if he knows they will destroy themselves?
Didn't you forget the part about them being His children? So he is allowed to torture people (create them just so they will destroy themselves) because they are his children?
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December 12, 2017, 06:22:55 PM |
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Well, actually, you have at least a few other Internet trolls that seem to agree with you.
Some posts you agree with me, other posts you go off on some tangent. It just proves you are making this stuff up as you go along. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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December 12, 2017, 06:24:06 PM |
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Evolution in the sense that evolutionary scientists talk, is a non-C&E thing. Therefore it doesn't exist like they say.
So all the smart people are wrong, and one internet troll is right. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Yeah, nearly all scientists support the theory of evolution. But one internet troll is smarter than literally millions of scientists who have spent their entire lives studying multiple data points. >A 2009 poll by Pew Research Center found that "Nearly all scientists (97%) say humans and other living things have evolved over time – 87% say evolution is due to natural processes, such as natural selection. Yet all the scientists know that cause and effect operates the whole universe. This means that they all know that everything is programmed. This means that they haven't thought the whole thing out if they answer as you state. However, pollsters know how to make the polls say almost anything that they want, even the opposite of the people being polled. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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December 12, 2017, 06:25:21 PM |
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Why even make these kids if he knows they will destroy themselves?
Didn't you forget the part about them being His children? So he is allowed to torture people (create them just so they will destroy themselves) because they are his children? No. There is nothing like God being allowed. He controls all things and beyond. Free will used the wrong way is what cause destruction. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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December 12, 2017, 06:25:55 PM |
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Yet all the scientists know that cause and effect operates the whole universe. This means that they all know that everything is programmed. This means that they haven't thought the whole thing out if they answer as you state.
So you speak for all scientists now? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Even the pope, the leader of your cult, says evolution happened.
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December 12, 2017, 06:26:21 PM |
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Well, actually, you have at least a few other Internet trolls that seem to agree with you.
Some posts you agree with me, other posts you go off on some tangent. It just proves you are making this stuff up as you go along. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Actually, it just proves how ignorant you are in ways that count. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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December 12, 2017, 06:26:59 PM |
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No. There is nothing like God being allowed. He controls all things and beyond.
So NOW you are saying he can control his children, he just let's them destroy themselves? And he has planned to let them destroy themselves from the beginning?
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December 12, 2017, 06:28:50 PM |
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Actually, it just proves how ignorant you are in ways that count.
There is your "proof" again - lol. I'm trying to pull your head out of the sand and you are fighting me... why?
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December 12, 2017, 06:28:56 PM |
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Yet all the scientists know that cause and effect operates the whole universe. This means that they all know that everything is programmed. This means that they haven't thought the whole thing out if they answer as you state.
So you speak for all scientists now? ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Even the pope, the leader of your cult, says evolution happened. Regarding C&E I can speak for all scientists. After all, the more the scientist, the more he uses C&E. When you look at history, there have been many mixed up popes. Why do you think he has anything to do with me, or I him? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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December 12, 2017, 06:30:37 PM |
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No. There is nothing like God being allowed. He controls all things and beyond.
So NOW you are saying he can control his children, he just let's them destroy themselves? And he has planned to let them destroy themselves from the beginning? They wouldn't be His children if they didn't have free will. Some of them use their free will to remain on His side. That's what free will is all about. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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December 12, 2017, 06:30:44 PM |
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Why even make these kids if he knows they will destroy themselves?
Didn't you forget the part about them being His children? So he is allowed to torture people (create them just so they will destroy themselves) because they are his children? No. There is nothing like God being allowed. He controls all things and beyond. Free will used the wrong way is what cause destruction. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Are you dull? God is supposedly omniscient, and thus he knows everything that can happen, and will happen. How can there possibly be free will when the future has been predestined?
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December 12, 2017, 06:31:39 PM |
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Actually, it just proves how ignorant you are in ways that count.
There is your "proof" again - lol. I'm trying to pull your head out of the sand and you are fighting me... why? You are trying to pull my head into the sand next to yours. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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December 12, 2017, 06:33:11 PM |
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No. There is nothing like God being allowed. He controls all things and beyond.
So NOW you are saying he can control his children, he just let's them destroy themselves? And he has planned to let them destroy themselves from the beginning? They wouldn't be His children if they didn't have free will. Some of them use their free will to remain on His side. That's what free will is all about. So they have free will, but god knows exactly what they are going to do. Six thousand years ago he made a giant list of people he was going to create but through free will they would destroy themselves. But it's ok to torture them because they are his children. Nice god lol...
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December 12, 2017, 06:34:43 PM |
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You are trying to pull my head into the sand next to yours.
I'm trying to pull your head out of the sand. Join the rest of humanity, including your pope, in reality. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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December 12, 2017, 06:34:52 PM |
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Why even make these kids if he knows they will destroy themselves?
Didn't you forget the part about them being His children? So he is allowed to torture people (create them just so they will destroy themselves) because they are his children? No. There is nothing like God being allowed. He controls all things and beyond. Free will used the wrong way is what cause destruction. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) Are you dull? God is supposedly omniscient, and thus he knows everything that can happen, and will happen. How can there possibly be free will when the future has been predestined? Once a person makes a commitment to be on God's side, God locks Him in, so to speak. That is predestination. However, if a person on God's side pulls himself free from God, he was never predestined in the first place. Anybody who is in God will find it very difficult to jump out. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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December 12, 2017, 06:36:35 PM |
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Once a person makes a commitment to be on God's side, God locks Him in, so to speak. That is predestination. However, if a person on God's side pulls himself free from God, he was never predestined in the first place.
Why does your god have to lock him in, so to speak? Didn't your god know from the creation of the universe this person would make the commitment? You speak often of limitations of your god's magic.
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December 12, 2017, 06:40:51 PM |
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No. There is nothing like God being allowed. He controls all things and beyond.
So NOW you are saying he can control his children, he just let's them destroy themselves? And he has planned to let them destroy themselves from the beginning? They wouldn't be His children if they didn't have free will. Some of them use their free will to remain on His side. That's what free will is all about. So they have free will, but god knows exactly what they are going to do. Six thousand years ago he made a giant list of people he was going to create but through free will they would destroy themselves. But it's ok to torture them because they are his children. Nice god lol... Since some of them are going to be saved, you post from ignorance. Continue to use your free will to be against God, and you will have tortured yourself. ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif)
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