Evolution is a hoax

[popcorn1]

I simply cannot believe this. This is again doubting and denying science. It is a proven fact that we're all related to each other.. Yes.. we're also related to a stupid tree.

all living organism on earth share the basic DNA. Thats a fact. So we did not come from heaven. But whatever, believe what you want if it helps you.

edit:

I'm not bullsh!tting on the bible or any religion. I don't believe in any religion - yes. But the bible, for instance, just describes the things as they knew it. Guys.. thats a long way from writing such books to nowadays understanding of life.

Simply Google "evolution is impossible" to see that there are lots of reasons why evolution is impossible.

All of foundational evolution theory is written like it was something you had to believe in to make it true. There are no concrete facts for evolution found by those who actually do the search for evolution. The evidence fits creation better. The few almost-facts for evolution, are things done in the lab, where scientists are the makers... not in nature where the whole thing comes about by natural means. No facts for evolution are found in nature.

On top of all that, cause and effect operates precisely according to the laws of physics. If there is anything that is pure randomness, we haven't found it for a fact. Yet evolution theory says that evolutionary changes are done by "random" mutations. This is exactly opposite of cause and effect which we see operating in millions or billions of things, or more.

Evolution is a cute idea that doesn't have any backing outside a lot of talk. In fact, it is the loads of talk that keeps evolution alive as a theory. There are no facts behind evolution. It is a story like any science fiction story, except that it is contributed to by multitudes of people. Evolution is a story that doesn't fit reality.

Because many of the proponents of evolution realize that they have no facts to back evolution up, and yet they keep on saying that evolution is true, evolution has become one of the greatest hoaxes around. Lay (non-scientific) people who believe these evolution proponents, are believers in a religion... the evolution religion.

Evolution is a hoax.

I already googled that and it didn't show anything:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg27216030#msg27216030

''The evidence fits creation better.'' Literally all dating methods show that creation is false, you know, older than 6-10k thousand years old.
''If there is anything that is pure randomness, we haven't found it'' You claimed god is pure randomness, so you did find it.
Also pretty much all science dismisses the bible (creation) : https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errors

You can google that as well since you like google so much, ''scientific errors in the bible'' There are plenty.

You fail to properly apply what I said regarding whatever it is that you Googled in that top link of yours.

There aren't any mistakes in the bible. There are only people (kinda like you) who twist the meanings of what is written in the Bible, to mean something that the Bible doesn't say.

The bible is 6k to 10k years old meaning that earth and the universe are just as old, however that has been proven wrong through dozens of different methods of dating, all showing that earth and the universe are far older.

The proof that the earth is older than the bible says - http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm - is based on the same kinds of "ifs" that evolution is based on. The following example simply shows a form of guessing the age of the earth. It is not meant to show actual ways that ice layers are examined and extrapolated into the past.


We know that the layers of ice that have formed over the last 100 years, have formed because of this or that kind of snowfall... or whatever. We know it because we have been recording it for the last hundred years. This means that "if" snowfall existed the same way for the last million years, then the earth is so many million years old.


The thing is, we don't have a clue that the ice layers were always formed in this way. Yet the "if" has been converted into a factual thing by the scientists, or by the media that publishes what the scientists say.

On top of that, the Bible is eye witness reports throughout a very large portion of it. Some of the reasons why this is way stronger than the "ifs" of evolution and scientific ages of the earth are listed hare https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg27424435#msg27424435.


Consider. When a car engine is made, they don't make something like a piston and a cylinder that gradually turns into a piston or a cylinder, and then gradually forms into a V-8 engine. Rather, they design the engine and build the engine complete. Then they place it into a car, and run the engine. If there is testing of several designs, they do it before they manufacture the car.

In the same way, if God did something like testing of the universe parts before he made the universe, the tests were separate from the universe. God didn't throw out a bunch of "stuff" and let it evolve into something that works. He threw out the universe in working order. But...

... We won't know it for a fact until we can build a real, working time viewer to take a look. we simply have to believe God (or not), that He did it like He said He did it. This means that although we can extrapolate backwards to some extent, it is incorrect extrapolation the further back we go, because God set the whole thing in place, in 6 days, with appearances that can be interpreted as billions of years, yet with the words of the Bible that tell us what He really did.

Why would God show us a nature that might trick us into believing something the wrong way? Probably several reasons, two of which  are:
1. He wants to find out who will trust what He says so that He knows who to get rid of;
2. He is giving us what we are asking for, independence from God in our thinking, all the while holding us dependent on Him through cause and effect.

Evolution is a complete hoax.

Just like we don't have a clue if cause and effect was always present, thanks for debunking your own argument

Why would we want a clue when we have proof? The proof is the fact that God caused it all through creation, and the fact that scientific proof says that, since we haven't found anything else (like pure random) in multitudes of cause and effect operations, nothing but cause and effect exists.

Yes we have, you said it yourself, it's god. You already debunked your own argument several times.

God uses random. The universe doesn't. When God uses random on the universe, it's a miracle. When He doesn't, it's cause and effect.

So then you admit that he is random, therefore evolution is real since he is the cause of everything and he doesn't have a cause, ultimately everything is indeed random. Well that was easy, thanks for admitting it badecker.

I already told you, and it is common sense, that something that is outside of this universe is so extremely different than anything within, that we can't understand it at all. If it was the same as something within the universe, it would be part of the universe.

If God is something like the randomness that we are thinking of/talking about, there is no way to know. Yet God uses random, because He uses anything that He wants... at least as far as our puny intellects are concerned. Or do you have a less puny intellect because you understand multitudes of mysteries of the universe that are hidden from everybody else?

If you want to call the First Cause random, and thus evolution exists because there is that random, evolution theory still is wrong, because the theory considers randomness at multitudes of points in the universe timeline. There is no evidence whatsoever for that randomness, and certainly no proof.

Get off it. Evolution is a big fat hoax, and you know it. Wake up and be honest for once in your life. Or are you Satan, himself?

Outside of the universe < HOW? ..UNI   VERSE <<The whole thing ..

You mean we might be in a boxverse? bubbleverse?    A verse <one of many..

The word UNI says it all ..

BUT who does your god live with outside of the universe..

[popcorn1]

Some peoples ask why can we not replicate animals that walk the earth today ..
1 cell into a elephant ..

You do realise that different environment today than the past..
So how can an elephant be an elephant without the specific weather or earth changes it had in the past
for it to be an elephant ..

Was it raining in the past for the change ..
was it because the earth split away and moved to a sunny bit of the world..
was it colder ..
was it warmer..
Did a landslide happen..

So many different earth events that happen that will of made species change over time..

In today's world how do you replicate geological event for things to evolve into all the life we see today?.

Drive down the motorway and you drive into rain look back and it's not raining ..
20 miles away can have different weather as you know when you drive down the motorway..

That's why so many different creatures and the fact each creature wants to eat each other..

So your god come down made bad weather earthquakes then made life eat each other ..
And you want to go to heaven ..

Imagine Badecker at the gates of heaven..

Hay god why is that man eating the leg off another man  WELL that's love my son ..
Now get in here  ..

[Astargath]

I simply cannot believe this. This is again doubting and denying science. It is a proven fact that we're all related to each other.. Yes.. we're also related to a stupid tree.

all living organism on earth share the basic DNA. Thats a fact. So we did not come from heaven. But whatever, believe what you want if it helps you.

edit:

I'm not bullsh!tting on the bible or any religion. I don't believe in any religion - yes. But the bible, for instance, just describes the things as they knew it. Guys.. thats a long way from writing such books to nowadays understanding of life.

Simply Google "evolution is impossible" to see that there are lots of reasons why evolution is impossible.

All of foundational evolution theory is written like it was something you had to believe in to make it true. There are no concrete facts for evolution found by those who actually do the search for evolution. The evidence fits creation better. The few almost-facts for evolution, are things done in the lab, where scientists are the makers... not in nature where the whole thing comes about by natural means. No facts for evolution are found in nature.

On top of all that, cause and effect operates precisely according to the laws of physics. If there is anything that is pure randomness, we haven't found it for a fact. Yet evolution theory says that evolutionary changes are done by "random" mutations. This is exactly opposite of cause and effect which we see operating in millions or billions of things, or more.

Evolution is a cute idea that doesn't have any backing outside a lot of talk. In fact, it is the loads of talk that keeps evolution alive as a theory. There are no facts behind evolution. It is a story like any science fiction story, except that it is contributed to by multitudes of people. Evolution is a story that doesn't fit reality.

Because many of the proponents of evolution realize that they have no facts to back evolution up, and yet they keep on saying that evolution is true, evolution has become one of the greatest hoaxes around. Lay (non-scientific) people who believe these evolution proponents, are believers in a religion... the evolution religion.

Evolution is a hoax.

I already googled that and it didn't show anything:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg27216030#msg27216030

''The evidence fits creation better.'' Literally all dating methods show that creation is false, you know, older than 6-10k thousand years old.
''If there is anything that is pure randomness, we haven't found it'' You claimed god is pure randomness, so you did find it.
Also pretty much all science dismisses the bible (creation) : https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errors

You can google that as well since you like google so much, ''scientific errors in the bible'' There are plenty.

You fail to properly apply what I said regarding whatever it is that you Googled in that top link of yours.

There aren't any mistakes in the bible. There are only people (kinda like you) who twist the meanings of what is written in the Bible, to mean something that the Bible doesn't say.

The bible is 6k to 10k years old meaning that earth and the universe are just as old, however that has been proven wrong through dozens of different methods of dating, all showing that earth and the universe are far older.

The proof that the earth is older than the bible says - http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm - is based on the same kinds of "ifs" that evolution is based on. The following example simply shows a form of guessing the age of the earth. It is not meant to show actual ways that ice layers are examined and extrapolated into the past.


We know that the layers of ice that have formed over the last 100 years, have formed because of this or that kind of snowfall... or whatever. We know it because we have been recording it for the last hundred years. This means that "if" snowfall existed the same way for the last million years, then the earth is so many million years old.


The thing is, we don't have a clue that the ice layers were always formed in this way. Yet the "if" has been converted into a factual thing by the scientists, or by the media that publishes what the scientists say.

On top of that, the Bible is eye witness reports throughout a very large portion of it. Some of the reasons why this is way stronger than the "ifs" of evolution and scientific ages of the earth are listed hare https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg27424435#msg27424435.


Consider. When a car engine is made, they don't make something like a piston and a cylinder that gradually turns into a piston or a cylinder, and then gradually forms into a V-8 engine. Rather, they design the engine and build the engine complete. Then they place it into a car, and run the engine. If there is testing of several designs, they do it before they manufacture the car.

In the same way, if God did something like testing of the universe parts before he made the universe, the tests were separate from the universe. God didn't throw out a bunch of "stuff" and let it evolve into something that works. He threw out the universe in working order. But...

... We won't know it for a fact until we can build a real, working time viewer to take a look. we simply have to believe God (or not), that He did it like He said He did it. This means that although we can extrapolate backwards to some extent, it is incorrect extrapolation the further back we go, because God set the whole thing in place, in 6 days, with appearances that can be interpreted as billions of years, yet with the words of the Bible that tell us what He really did.

Why would God show us a nature that might trick us into believing something the wrong way? Probably several reasons, two of which  are:
1. He wants to find out who will trust what He says so that He knows who to get rid of;
2. He is giving us what we are asking for, independence from God in our thinking, all the while holding us dependent on Him through cause and effect.

Evolution is a complete hoax.

Just like we don't have a clue if cause and effect was always present, thanks for debunking your own argument

Why would we want a clue when we have proof? The proof is the fact that God caused it all through creation, and the fact that scientific proof says that, since we haven't found anything else (like pure random) in multitudes of cause and effect operations, nothing but cause and effect exists.

Yes we have, you said it yourself, it's god. You already debunked your own argument several times.

God uses random. The universe doesn't. When God uses random on the universe, it's a miracle. When He doesn't, it's cause and effect.

So then you admit that he is random, therefore evolution is real since he is the cause of everything and he doesn't have a cause, ultimately everything is indeed random. Well that was easy, thanks for admitting it badecker.

I already told you, and it is common sense, that something that is outside of this universe is so extremely different than anything within, that we can't understand it at all. If it was the same as something within the universe, it would be part of the universe.

If God is something like the randomness that we are thinking of/talking about, there is no way to know. Yet God uses random, because He uses anything that He wants... at least as far as our puny intellects are concerned. Or do you have a less puny intellect because you understand multitudes of mysteries of the universe that are hidden from everybody else?

If you want to call the First Cause random, and thus evolution exists because there is that random, evolution theory still is wrong, because the theory considers randomness at multitudes of points in the universe timeline. There is no evidence whatsoever for that randomness, and certainly no proof.

Get off it. Evolution is a big fat hoax, and you know it. Wake up and be honest for once in your life. Or are you Satan, himself?

Well, you see if the first cause of a chain of causes is random, essentially all the causes within the chain are random.

Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own, unpredictable and every time a random number appears. Imagine the dice randomly jumps again but this time falls onto a flower and breaks it. You would consider the cause of the broke plant, the dice however the dice itself has no cause, its random so basically the real cause for the broken plant is random.

The same thing happens with your example. If god ultimately created everything, then all the chain of causes go back to a single point, god, which is a random being, everything he did, he did without a cause.

Evolution is true and you proved it.

[BADecker]

I simply cannot believe this. This is again doubting and denying science. It is a proven fact that we're all related to each other.. Yes.. we're also related to a stupid tree.

all living organism on earth share the basic DNA. Thats a fact. So we did not come from heaven. But whatever, believe what you want if it helps you.

edit:

I'm not bullsh!tting on the bible or any religion. I don't believe in any religion - yes. But the bible, for instance, just describes the things as they knew it. Guys.. thats a long way from writing such books to nowadays understanding of life.

Simply Google "evolution is impossible" to see that there are lots of reasons why evolution is impossible.

All of foundational evolution theory is written like it was something you had to believe in to make it true. There are no concrete facts for evolution found by those who actually do the search for evolution. The evidence fits creation better. The few almost-facts for evolution, are things done in the lab, where scientists are the makers... not in nature where the whole thing comes about by natural means. No facts for evolution are found in nature.

On top of all that, cause and effect operates precisely according to the laws of physics. If there is anything that is pure randomness, we haven't found it for a fact. Yet evolution theory says that evolutionary changes are done by "random" mutations. This is exactly opposite of cause and effect which we see operating in millions or billions of things, or more.

Evolution is a cute idea that doesn't have any backing outside a lot of talk. In fact, it is the loads of talk that keeps evolution alive as a theory. There are no facts behind evolution. It is a story like any science fiction story, except that it is contributed to by multitudes of people. Evolution is a story that doesn't fit reality.

Because many of the proponents of evolution realize that they have no facts to back evolution up, and yet they keep on saying that evolution is true, evolution has become one of the greatest hoaxes around. Lay (non-scientific) people who believe these evolution proponents, are believers in a religion... the evolution religion.

Evolution is a hoax.

I already googled that and it didn't show anything:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg27216030#msg27216030

''The evidence fits creation better.'' Literally all dating methods show that creation is false, you know, older than 6-10k thousand years old.
''If there is anything that is pure randomness, we haven't found it'' You claimed god is pure randomness, so you did find it.
Also pretty much all science dismisses the bible (creation) : https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errors

You can google that as well since you like google so much, ''scientific errors in the bible'' There are plenty.

You fail to properly apply what I said regarding whatever it is that you Googled in that top link of yours.

There aren't any mistakes in the bible. There are only people (kinda like you) who twist the meanings of what is written in the Bible, to mean something that the Bible doesn't say.

The bible is 6k to 10k years old meaning that earth and the universe are just as old, however that has been proven wrong through dozens of different methods of dating, all showing that earth and the universe are far older.

The proof that the earth is older than the bible says - http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm - is based on the same kinds of "ifs" that evolution is based on. The following example simply shows a form of guessing the age of the earth. It is not meant to show actual ways that ice layers are examined and extrapolated into the past.


We know that the layers of ice that have formed over the last 100 years, have formed because of this or that kind of snowfall... or whatever. We know it because we have been recording it for the last hundred years. This means that "if" snowfall existed the same way for the last million years, then the earth is so many million years old.


The thing is, we don't have a clue that the ice layers were always formed in this way. Yet the "if" has been converted into a factual thing by the scientists, or by the media that publishes what the scientists say.

On top of that, the Bible is eye witness reports throughout a very large portion of it. Some of the reasons why this is way stronger than the "ifs" of evolution and scientific ages of the earth are listed hare https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg27424435#msg27424435.


Consider. When a car engine is made, they don't make something like a piston and a cylinder that gradually turns into a piston or a cylinder, and then gradually forms into a V-8 engine. Rather, they design the engine and build the engine complete. Then they place it into a car, and run the engine. If there is testing of several designs, they do it before they manufacture the car.

In the same way, if God did something like testing of the universe parts before he made the universe, the tests were separate from the universe. God didn't throw out a bunch of "stuff" and let it evolve into something that works. He threw out the universe in working order. But...

... We won't know it for a fact until we can build a real, working time viewer to take a look. we simply have to believe God (or not), that He did it like He said He did it. This means that although we can extrapolate backwards to some extent, it is incorrect extrapolation the further back we go, because God set the whole thing in place, in 6 days, with appearances that can be interpreted as billions of years, yet with the words of the Bible that tell us what He really did.

Why would God show us a nature that might trick us into believing something the wrong way? Probably several reasons, two of which  are:
1. He wants to find out who will trust what He says so that He knows who to get rid of;
2. He is giving us what we are asking for, independence from God in our thinking, all the while holding us dependent on Him through cause and effect.

Evolution is a complete hoax.

Just like we don't have a clue if cause and effect was always present, thanks for debunking your own argument

Why would we want a clue when we have proof? The proof is the fact that God caused it all through creation, and the fact that scientific proof says that, since we haven't found anything else (like pure random) in multitudes of cause and effect operations, nothing but cause and effect exists.

Yes we have, you said it yourself, it's god. You already debunked your own argument several times.

God uses random. The universe doesn't. When God uses random on the universe, it's a miracle. When He doesn't, it's cause and effect.

So then you admit that he is random, therefore evolution is real since he is the cause of everything and he doesn't have a cause, ultimately everything is indeed random. Well that was easy, thanks for admitting it badecker.

I already told you, and it is common sense, that something that is outside of this universe is so extremely different than anything within, that we can't understand it at all. If it was the same as something within the universe, it would be part of the universe.

If God is something like the randomness that we are thinking of/talking about, there is no way to know. Yet God uses random, because He uses anything that He wants... at least as far as our puny intellects are concerned. Or do you have a less puny intellect because you understand multitudes of mysteries of the universe that are hidden from everybody else?

If you want to call the First Cause random, and thus evolution exists because there is that random, evolution theory still is wrong, because the theory considers randomness at multitudes of points in the universe timeline. There is no evidence whatsoever for that randomness, and certainly no proof.

Get off it. Evolution is a big fat hoax, and you know it. Wake up and be honest for once in your life. Or are you Satan, himself?

Well, you see if the first cause of a chain of causes is random, essentially all the causes within the chain are random.

Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own, unpredictable and every time a random number appears. Imagine the dice randomly jumps again but this time falls onto a flower and breaks it. You would consider the cause of the broke plant, the dice however the dice itself has no cause, its random so basically the real cause for the broken plant is random.

The same thing happens with your example. If god ultimately created everything, then all the chain of causes go back to a single point, god, which is a random being, everything he did, he did without a cause.

Evolution is true and you proved it.

Since the first cause in the chain of causes that is our universe, is something (or from something) outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.

"Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own..." This is precisely what evolution is. A big chunk of imagination about all kinds of things. Why? Because there is no proof, and no evidence for it, that doesn't fit creation better. IF evolution happened to be true, we don't know it is, or how it could be true... at least not scientifically speaking. Our evolution theory doesn't match reality.

How do you know anything about God? Do you believe what I have said about Him? Does science show you about Him? Do you just feel that He is the way you describe? LOL.

Evolution is a hoax, and you just proved you understand that it is a hoax.

[Astargath]

I simply cannot believe this. This is again doubting and denying science. It is a proven fact that we're all related to each other.. Yes.. we're also related to a stupid tree.

all living organism on earth share the basic DNA. Thats a fact. So we did not come from heaven. But whatever, believe what you want if it helps you.

edit:

I'm not bullsh!tting on the bible or any religion. I don't believe in any religion - yes. But the bible, for instance, just describes the things as they knew it. Guys.. thats a long way from writing such books to nowadays understanding of life.

Simply Google "evolution is impossible" to see that there are lots of reasons why evolution is impossible.

All of foundational evolution theory is written like it was something you had to believe in to make it true. There are no concrete facts for evolution found by those who actually do the search for evolution. The evidence fits creation better. The few almost-facts for evolution, are things done in the lab, where scientists are the makers... not in nature where the whole thing comes about by natural means. No facts for evolution are found in nature.

On top of all that, cause and effect operates precisely according to the laws of physics. If there is anything that is pure randomness, we haven't found it for a fact. Yet evolution theory says that evolutionary changes are done by "random" mutations. This is exactly opposite of cause and effect which we see operating in millions or billions of things, or more.

Evolution is a cute idea that doesn't have any backing outside a lot of talk. In fact, it is the loads of talk that keeps evolution alive as a theory. There are no facts behind evolution. It is a story like any science fiction story, except that it is contributed to by multitudes of people. Evolution is a story that doesn't fit reality.

Because many of the proponents of evolution realize that they have no facts to back evolution up, and yet they keep on saying that evolution is true, evolution has become one of the greatest hoaxes around. Lay (non-scientific) people who believe these evolution proponents, are believers in a religion... the evolution religion.

Evolution is a hoax.

I already googled that and it didn't show anything:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg27216030#msg27216030

''The evidence fits creation better.'' Literally all dating methods show that creation is false, you know, older than 6-10k thousand years old.
''If there is anything that is pure randomness, we haven't found it'' You claimed god is pure randomness, so you did find it.
Also pretty much all science dismisses the bible (creation) : https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Biblical_scientific_errors

You can google that as well since you like google so much, ''scientific errors in the bible'' There are plenty.

You fail to properly apply what I said regarding whatever it is that you Googled in that top link of yours.

There aren't any mistakes in the bible. There are only people (kinda like you) who twist the meanings of what is written in the Bible, to mean something that the Bible doesn't say.

The bible is 6k to 10k years old meaning that earth and the universe are just as old, however that has been proven wrong through dozens of different methods of dating, all showing that earth and the universe are far older.

The proof that the earth is older than the bible says - http://www.albatrus.org/english/theology/creation/biblical_age_earth.htm - is based on the same kinds of "ifs" that evolution is based on. The following example simply shows a form of guessing the age of the earth. It is not meant to show actual ways that ice layers are examined and extrapolated into the past.


We know that the layers of ice that have formed over the last 100 years, have formed because of this or that kind of snowfall... or whatever. We know it because we have been recording it for the last hundred years. This means that "if" snowfall existed the same way for the last million years, then the earth is so many million years old.


The thing is, we don't have a clue that the ice layers were always formed in this way. Yet the "if" has been converted into a factual thing by the scientists, or by the media that publishes what the scientists say.

On top of that, the Bible is eye witness reports throughout a very large portion of it. Some of the reasons why this is way stronger than the "ifs" of evolution and scientific ages of the earth are listed hare https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1917510.msg27424435#msg27424435.


Consider. When a car engine is made, they don't make something like a piston and a cylinder that gradually turns into a piston or a cylinder, and then gradually forms into a V-8 engine. Rather, they design the engine and build the engine complete. Then they place it into a car, and run the engine. If there is testing of several designs, they do it before they manufacture the car.

In the same way, if God did something like testing of the universe parts before he made the universe, the tests were separate from the universe. God didn't throw out a bunch of "stuff" and let it evolve into something that works. He threw out the universe in working order. But...

... We won't know it for a fact until we can build a real, working time viewer to take a look. we simply have to believe God (or not), that He did it like He said He did it. This means that although we can extrapolate backwards to some extent, it is incorrect extrapolation the further back we go, because God set the whole thing in place, in 6 days, with appearances that can be interpreted as billions of years, yet with the words of the Bible that tell us what He really did.

Why would God show us a nature that might trick us into believing something the wrong way? Probably several reasons, two of which  are:
1. He wants to find out who will trust what He says so that He knows who to get rid of;
2. He is giving us what we are asking for, independence from God in our thinking, all the while holding us dependent on Him through cause and effect.

Evolution is a complete hoax.

Just like we don't have a clue if cause and effect was always present, thanks for debunking your own argument

Why would we want a clue when we have proof? The proof is the fact that God caused it all through creation, and the fact that scientific proof says that, since we haven't found anything else (like pure random) in multitudes of cause and effect operations, nothing but cause and effect exists.

Yes we have, you said it yourself, it's god. You already debunked your own argument several times.

God uses random. The universe doesn't. When God uses random on the universe, it's a miracle. When He doesn't, it's cause and effect.

So then you admit that he is random, therefore evolution is real since he is the cause of everything and he doesn't have a cause, ultimately everything is indeed random. Well that was easy, thanks for admitting it badecker.

I already told you, and it is common sense, that something that is outside of this universe is so extremely different than anything within, that we can't understand it at all. If it was the same as something within the universe, it would be part of the universe.

If God is something like the randomness that we are thinking of/talking about, there is no way to know. Yet God uses random, because He uses anything that He wants... at least as far as our puny intellects are concerned. Or do you have a less puny intellect because you understand multitudes of mysteries of the universe that are hidden from everybody else?

If you want to call the First Cause random, and thus evolution exists because there is that random, evolution theory still is wrong, because the theory considers randomness at multitudes of points in the universe timeline. There is no evidence whatsoever for that randomness, and certainly no proof.

Get off it. Evolution is a big fat hoax, and you know it. Wake up and be honest for once in your life. Or are you Satan, himself?

Well, you see if the first cause of a chain of causes is random, essentially all the causes within the chain are random.

Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own, unpredictable and every time a random number appears. Imagine the dice randomly jumps again but this time falls onto a flower and breaks it. You would consider the cause of the broke plant, the dice however the dice itself has no cause, its random so basically the real cause for the broken plant is random.

The same thing happens with your example. If god ultimately created everything, then all the chain of causes go back to a single point, god, which is a random being, everything he did, he did without a cause.

Evolution is true and you proved it.

Since the first cause in the chain of causes that is our universe, is something (or from something) outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.

"Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own..." This is precisely what evolution is. A big chunk of imagination about all kinds of things. Why? Because there is no proof, and no evidence for it, that doesn't fit creation better. IF evolution happened to be true, we don't know it is, or how it could be true... at least not scientifically speaking. Our evolution theory doesn't match reality.

How do you know anything about God? Do you believe what I have said about Him? Does science show you about Him? Do you just feel that He is the way you describe? LOL.

Evolution is a hoax, and you just proved you understand that it is a hoax.

I don't understand you. Why do you keep saying ''the way I described him'' You said that god has no cause so I used what you said against you, now you are claiming that I'm the one saying it LOL.
''outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.'' There aren't too many options badecker, either the cause of the universe has a cause or doesn't and you claimed it doesn't because you said it was god and that god itself has no cause, I can quote you on that if you want. Are you saying now that god has a cause?

[popcorn1]

How do you know anything about God? Do you believe what I have said about Him? ..NO ..

WHY?.. because how come YOU know so much about god living outside of the universe but we don't?...
Must only speak to you?..

Show your proof of god to the world and you will be a very very rich man ..
You have had all the proof of evolution and still you say god is the creator with no evidence what so ever
so now your just wasting peoples time for WHAT?..

Are you mental ?..

[BADecker]

Well, you see if the first cause of a chain of causes is random, essentially all the causes within the chain are random.

Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own, unpredictable and every time a random number appears. Imagine the dice randomly jumps again but this time falls onto a flower and breaks it. You would consider the cause of the broke plant, the dice however the dice itself has no cause, its random so basically the real cause for the broken plant is random.

The same thing happens with your example. If god ultimately created everything, then all the chain of causes go back to a single point, god, which is a random being, everything he did, he did without a cause.

Evolution is true and you proved it.

Since the first cause in the chain of causes that is our universe, is something (or from something) outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.

"Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own..." This is precisely what evolution is. A big chunk of imagination about all kinds of things. Why? Because there is no proof, and no evidence for it, that doesn't fit creation better. IF evolution happened to be true, we don't know it is, or how it could be true... at least not scientifically speaking. Our evolution theory doesn't match reality.

How do you know anything about God? Do you believe what I have said about Him? Does science show you about Him? Do you just feel that He is the way you describe? LOL.

Evolution is a hoax, and you just proved you understand that it is a hoax.

I don't understand you. Why do you keep saying ''the way I described him'' You said that god has no cause so I used what you said against you, now you are claiming that I'm the one saying it LOL.

But you DO understand me. And you ARE taking what I said out of context, so it IS what you said, and NOT what I said.

''outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.'' There aren't too many options badecker, either the cause of the universe has a cause or doesn't and you claimed it doesn't because you said it was god and that god itself has no cause, I can quote you on that if you want. Are you saying now that god has a cause?

Those options you talk about are options within the way the universe works. Something that is outside of the universe is completely different, or it would not be outside of the universe. If it were the same as within the universe, then it would be within the universe.

This means that neither C&E nor random necessarily apply outside of the universe, but they both may apply in some way outside the universe.

Can't you get it through your noggin that outside of the universe is something that we can't even comprehend because it is so different? In fact, it is so extremely different that the word "different" doesn't really describe it.

Evolution is a hoax.

[BADecker]

How do you know anything about God? Do you believe what I have said about Him? ..NO ..

WHY?.. because how come YOU know so much about god living outside of the universe but we don't?...
Must only speak to you?..

Show your proof of god to the world and you will be a very very rich man ..
You have had all the proof of evolution and still you say god is the creator with no evidence what so ever
so now your just wasting peoples time for WHAT?..

Are you mental ?..

Some of us know things about God, because God revealed them to us. The revelation exists in the Bible. You won't know the revelation unless you read it. But if you read it and reject it, you STILL may not know the revelation.

However, there isn't any revelation about evolution in either the Bible or the universe. The closest we come to evolution revelation within the universe, is some people using faulty arguments to suggest that they have reason for stating that evolution exists, revealed to them by the things of the universe that they studied.

Evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

Well, you see if the first cause of a chain of causes is random, essentially all the causes within the chain are random.

Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own, unpredictable and every time a random number appears. Imagine the dice randomly jumps again but this time falls onto a flower and breaks it. You would consider the cause of the broke plant, the dice however the dice itself has no cause, its random so basically the real cause for the broken plant is random.

The same thing happens with your example. If god ultimately created everything, then all the chain of causes go back to a single point, god, which is a random being, everything he did, he did without a cause.

Evolution is true and you proved it.

Since the first cause in the chain of causes that is our universe, is something (or from something) outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.

"Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own..." This is precisely what evolution is. A big chunk of imagination about all kinds of things. Why? Because there is no proof, and no evidence for it, that doesn't fit creation better. IF evolution happened to be true, we don't know it is, or how it could be true... at least not scientifically speaking. Our evolution theory doesn't match reality.

How do you know anything about God? Do you believe what I have said about Him? Does science show you about Him? Do you just feel that He is the way you describe? LOL.

Evolution is a hoax, and you just proved you understand that it is a hoax.

I don't understand you. Why do you keep saying ''the way I described him'' You said that god has no cause so I used what you said against you, now you are claiming that I'm the one saying it LOL.

But you DO understand me. And you ARE taking what I said out of context, so it IS what you said, and NOT what I said.

''outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.'' There aren't too many options badecker, either the cause of the universe has a cause or doesn't and you claimed it doesn't because you said it was god and that god itself has no cause, I can quote you on that if you want. Are you saying now that god has a cause?

Those options you talk about are options within the way the universe works. Something that is outside of the universe is completely different, or it would not be outside of the universe. If it were the same as within the universe, then it would be within the universe.

This means that neither C&E nor random necessarily apply outside of the universe, but they both may apply in some way outside the universe.

Can't you get it through your noggin that outside of the universe is something that we can't even comprehend because it is so different? In fact, it is so extremely different that the word "different" doesn't really describe it.

Evolution is a hoax.

Well so you admit you don't know what the cause of everything really is. You still claim everything has a cause but you never proved it. Saying ''we haven't found anything without a cause'' doesn't prove that everything has a cause just like saying because we haven't found life on another planet, life on other planets doesn't exist doesn't prove life on other planets doesnt exist.

I already told you quantum processes seem to be random. Maybe they aren't but no one knows, so far no one has even presented a theory nor even a hypothesis for what their cause might be. Can you?

[BADecker]

Well, you see if the first cause of a chain of causes is random, essentially all the causes within the chain are random.

Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own, unpredictable and every time a random number appears. Imagine the dice randomly jumps again but this time falls onto a flower and breaks it. You would consider the cause of the broke plant, the dice however the dice itself has no cause, its random so basically the real cause for the broken plant is random.

The same thing happens with your example. If god ultimately created everything, then all the chain of causes go back to a single point, god, which is a random being, everything he did, he did without a cause.

Evolution is true and you proved it.

Since the first cause in the chain of causes that is our universe, is something (or from something) outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.

"Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own..." This is precisely what evolution is. A big chunk of imagination about all kinds of things. Why? Because there is no proof, and no evidence for it, that doesn't fit creation better. IF evolution happened to be true, we don't know it is, or how it could be true... at least not scientifically speaking. Our evolution theory doesn't match reality.

How do you know anything about God? Do you believe what I have said about Him? Does science show you about Him? Do you just feel that He is the way you describe? LOL.

Evolution is a hoax, and you just proved you understand that it is a hoax.

I don't understand you. Why do you keep saying ''the way I described him'' You said that god has no cause so I used what you said against you, now you are claiming that I'm the one saying it LOL.

But you DO understand me. And you ARE taking what I said out of context, so it IS what you said, and NOT what I said.

''outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.'' There aren't too many options badecker, either the cause of the universe has a cause or doesn't and you claimed it doesn't because you said it was god and that god itself has no cause, I can quote you on that if you want. Are you saying now that god has a cause?

Those options you talk about are options within the way the universe works. Something that is outside of the universe is completely different, or it would not be outside of the universe. If it were the same as within the universe, then it would be within the universe.

This means that neither C&E nor random necessarily apply outside of the universe, but they both may apply in some way outside the universe.

Can't you get it through your noggin that outside of the universe is something that we can't even comprehend because it is so different? In fact, it is so extremely different that the word "different" doesn't really describe it.

Evolution is a hoax.

Well so you admit you don't know what the cause of everything really is. You still claim everything has a cause but you never proved it. Saying ''we haven't found anything without a cause'' doesn't prove that everything has a cause just like saying because we haven't found life on another planet, life on other planets doesn't exist doesn't prove life on other planets doesnt exist.

I already told you quantum processes seem to be random. Maybe they aren't but no one knows, so far no one has even presented a theory nor even a hypothesis for what their cause might be. Can you?

Except for the fact that I have told you over and over that, by the definition, God is the cause of everything. You don't seem to understand that He is a cause from our standpoint, but that the actual "thing" that He is, may or may not be a cause... may or may not have anything to do with C&E... because He is outside of the universe.

Science says that there is nothing without a cause, by the odds, by probability, by quantum. And that is what we are talking about when we talk evolution, isn't it? something without a cause, right? Or are you admitting that evolution is a religion?

We haven't examined other planets enough to tell that life does or doesn't exist there, even though we haven't found any there yet. But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action. Your planet thing is an improper analogy.

If you told me something, what does that matter? Scientists tell us that quantum is probability. Such might act like we would expect random to act. But probability by definition shows us that it is not pure random... spontaneous activity/something without a cause.

Since quantum is simply random in the form that we think of random, nobody needs a hypothesis for what random might be. After all, just because we can't track the molecules of air that cause a leaf to sway in the breeze, and their C&E, doesn't mean that it has anything to do with pure random. If you want a hypothesis for pure random, figure one out if you can't find one.

Thank you for helping our readers to see that...

Evolution is a hoax.



EDIT: Won't I get more points? Because generally my posts are bigger. 

[Astargath]

Well, you see if the first cause of a chain of causes is random, essentially all the causes within the chain are random.

Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own, unpredictable and every time a random number appears. Imagine the dice randomly jumps again but this time falls onto a flower and breaks it. You would consider the cause of the broke plant, the dice however the dice itself has no cause, its random so basically the real cause for the broken plant is random.

The same thing happens with your example. If god ultimately created everything, then all the chain of causes go back to a single point, god, which is a random being, everything he did, he did without a cause.

Evolution is true and you proved it.

Since the first cause in the chain of causes that is our universe, is something (or from something) outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.

"Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own..." This is precisely what evolution is. A big chunk of imagination about all kinds of things. Why? Because there is no proof, and no evidence for it, that doesn't fit creation better. IF evolution happened to be true, we don't know it is, or how it could be true... at least not scientifically speaking. Our evolution theory doesn't match reality.

How do you know anything about God? Do you believe what I have said about Him? Does science show you about Him? Do you just feel that He is the way you describe? LOL.

Evolution is a hoax, and you just proved you understand that it is a hoax.

I don't understand you. Why do you keep saying ''the way I described him'' You said that god has no cause so I used what you said against you, now you are claiming that I'm the one saying it LOL.

But you DO understand me. And you ARE taking what I said out of context, so it IS what you said, and NOT what I said.

''outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.'' There aren't too many options badecker, either the cause of the universe has a cause or doesn't and you claimed it doesn't because you said it was god and that god itself has no cause, I can quote you on that if you want. Are you saying now that god has a cause?

Those options you talk about are options within the way the universe works. Something that is outside of the universe is completely different, or it would not be outside of the universe. If it were the same as within the universe, then it would be within the universe.

This means that neither C&E nor random necessarily apply outside of the universe, but they both may apply in some way outside the universe.

Can't you get it through your noggin that outside of the universe is something that we can't even comprehend because it is so different? In fact, it is so extremely different that the word "different" doesn't really describe it.

Evolution is a hoax.

Well so you admit you don't know what the cause of everything really is. You still claim everything has a cause but you never proved it. Saying ''we haven't found anything without a cause'' doesn't prove that everything has a cause just like saying because we haven't found life on another planet, life on other planets doesn't exist doesn't prove life on other planets doesnt exist.

I already told you quantum processes seem to be random. Maybe they aren't but no one knows, so far no one has even presented a theory nor even a hypothesis for what their cause might be. Can you?

Except for the fact that I have told you over and over that, by the definition, God is the cause of everything. You don't seem to understand that He is a cause from our standpoint, but that the actual "thing" that He is, may or may not be a cause... may or may not have anything to do with C&E... because He is outside of the universe.

Science says that there is nothing without a cause, by the odds, by probability, by quantum. And that is what we are talking about when we talk evolution, isn't it? something without a cause, right? Or are you admitting that evolution is a religion?

We haven't examined other planets enough to tell that life does or doesn't exist there, even though we haven't found any there yet. But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action. Your planet thing is an improper analogy.

If you told me something, what does that matter? Scientists tell us that quantum is probability. Such might act like we would expect random to act. But probability by definition shows us that it is not pure random... spontaneous activity/something without a cause.

Since quantum is simply random in the form that we think of random, nobody needs a hypothesis for what random might be. After all, just because we can't track the molecules of air that cause a leaf to sway in the breeze, and their C&E, doesn't mean that it has anything to do with pure random. If you want a hypothesis for pure random, figure one out if you can't find one.

Thank you for helping our readers to see that...

Evolution is a hoax.



EDIT: Won't I get more points? Because generally my posts are bigger. 

''Science says that there is nothing without a cause'' Keep claiming bullshit, show me where science says that everything has a cause.
''But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action.'' Broken record, quantum processes are believed to be random unless you can prove them otherwise.

[BADecker]

''Science says that there is nothing without a cause'' Keep claiming bullshit, show me where science says that everything has a cause.

Countless numbers of known C&E actions. Zero known non-C&E actions. Non-scientific odds might suggest that there is still a possibility of at least one non-C&E action somewhere. But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them. Research scientific understanding of probability.

''But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action.'' Broken record, quantum processes are believed to be random unless you can prove them otherwise.

Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing. Just because somebody believes that the satellite around the 3rd planet of a certain star called "Sol" is made of green cheese, doesn't make it so. Are you trying to turn this into a religious topic?

Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically, just because of the way that science views probability.

Go find some non-C&E action and prove it to be such.

[Vod]

Are you trying to turn this into a religious topic?

This is a religious topic.

How did we get here?   There are only two possibilities:

1) Evolution - if you say it's a hoax then that leaves us with
2) Religion/Magic

I'm married to Jennifer Lawrence.

[popcorn1]

Well, you see if the first cause of a chain of causes is random, essentially all the causes within the chain are random.

Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own, unpredictable and every time a random number appears. Imagine the dice randomly jumps again but this time falls onto a flower and breaks it. You would consider the cause of the broke plant, the dice however the dice itself has no cause, its random so basically the real cause for the broken plant is random.

The same thing happens with your example. If god ultimately created everything, then all the chain of causes go back to a single point, god, which is a random being, everything he did, he did without a cause.

Evolution is true and you proved it.

Since the first cause in the chain of causes that is our universe, is something (or from something) outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.

"Imagine a random dice that can jump on its own..." This is precisely what evolution is. A big chunk of imagination about all kinds of things. Why? Because there is no proof, and no evidence for it, that doesn't fit creation better. IF evolution happened to be true, we don't know it is, or how it could be true... at least not scientifically speaking. Our evolution theory doesn't match reality.

How do you know anything about God? Do you believe what I have said about Him? Does science show you about Him? Do you just feel that He is the way you describe? LOL.

Evolution is a hoax, and you just proved you understand that it is a hoax.

I don't understand you. Why do you keep saying ''the way I described him'' You said that god has no cause so I used what you said against you, now you are claiming that I'm the one saying it LOL.

But you DO understand me. And you ARE taking what I said out of context, so it IS what you said, and NOT what I said.

''outside of the universe, we don't really know what it is... random or something else.'' There aren't too many options badecker, either the cause of the universe has a cause or doesn't and you claimed it doesn't because you said it was god and that god itself has no cause, I can quote you on that if you want. Are you saying now that god has a cause?

Those options you talk about are options within the way the universe works. Something that is outside of the universe is completely different, or it would not be outside of the universe. If it were the same as within the universe, then it would be within the universe.

This means that neither C&E nor random necessarily apply outside of the universe, but they both may apply in some way outside the universe.

Can't you get it through your noggin that outside of the universe is something that we can't even comprehend because it is so different? In fact, it is so extremely different that the word "different" doesn't really describe it.

Evolution is a hoax.

Well so you admit you don't know what the cause of everything really is. You still claim everything has a cause but you never proved it. Saying ''we haven't found anything without a cause'' doesn't prove that everything has a cause just like saying because we haven't found life on another planet, life on other planets doesn't exist doesn't prove life on other planets doesnt exist.

I already told you quantum processes seem to be random. Maybe they aren't but no one knows, so far no one has even presented a theory nor even a hypothesis for what their cause might be. Can you?

Except for the fact that I have told you over and over that, by the definition, God is the cause of everything. You don't seem to understand that He is a cause from our standpoint, but that the actual "thing" that He is, may or may not be a cause... may or may not have anything to do with C&E... because He is outside of the universe.

Science says that there is nothing without a cause, by the odds, by probability, by quantum. And that is what we are talking about when we talk evolution, isn't it? something without a cause, right? Or are you admitting that evolution is a religion?

We haven't examined other planets enough to tell that life does or doesn't exist there, even though we haven't found any there yet. But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action. Your planet thing is an improper analogy.

If you told me something, what does that matter? Scientists tell us that quantum is probability. Such might act like we would expect random to act. But probability by definition shows us that it is not pure random... spontaneous activity/something without a cause.

Since quantum is simply random in the form that we think of random, nobody needs a hypothesis for what random might be. After all, just because we can't track the molecules of air that cause a leaf to sway in the breeze, and their C&E, doesn't mean that it has anything to do with pure random. If you want a hypothesis for pure random, figure one out if you can't find one.

Thank you for helping our readers to see that...

Evolution is a hoax.



EDIT: Won't I get more points? Because generally my posts are bigger. 

''Science says that there is nothing without a cause'' Keep claiming bullshit, show me where science says that everything has a cause.
''But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action.'' Broken record, quantum processes are believed to be random unless you can prove them otherwise.

show me where science says that everything has a cause.. If an effect it must of had a cause for the effect to happen?..

See people are try to explain the whole thing      as in how did the UNIVERSE the whole empty universe come to be..

Ok then explain the space in a empty box ..
You open the box and nothing there explain the nothing in the box what caused the nothing..

Explain nothing?     well there is nothing to explain..

How do you get outside of infinity..   Outside the nothing?

Step to the right in a open space ..Have you stepped in or out?..

See some say multiverses so if multiverse what holds all the multiverses ..YES the UNIVERSE     UNI ..
You go to university because the word uni means you can study everything ..You study the uni..

But i did think  for it to be so then what was the cause and effect..

The randomness what caused the random event to happen?..

But all questions we are still asking today is all good for the brains ..
Keeps my brains healthy trying to explain to Badecker the meaning of life..

See everything he says i say i don't believe him so i then start to check things out that i wouldn't of ever known..
So i suppose he has come in really handy our badecker has ..

So i will keep trying to make him better because it makes me better ..<More knowledge than i would ever of known ..

SO THANKS BADECKER ..Your a crazy star ..

[popcorn1]

Example of the knowledge Badecker has learnt popcorn1 ..

Now without him saying god this and god done that i wouldn't of ever known this below to prove evolution.. ..

Evolution in Action - California Salamanders - YouTube
Video for evolution at work salamander▶ 3:22
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aDIQFQOCGaI
29 May 2012 - Uploaded by Science For the Win
Evolution in Action - California Salamanders. Science For the Win ...

I wouldn't of ever known a test like this only for BADECKER so thanks..
I learnt KNOWLEDGE  ..

The proof of EVOLUTION at work before your very eyes..

I know much more about DNA because of badecker ..Many things i have learnt trying to prove him wrong so all good..

So i will be back badecker to give you some more medicine to make you better ..No don't worry it makes me better trying to get you well..

[Vod]

show me where science says that everything has a cause.. If an effect it must of had a cause for the effect to happen?..

See people are try to explain the whole thing      as in how did the UNIVERSE the whole empty universe come to be..

Ok then explain the space in a empty box ..
You open the box and nothing there explain the nothing in the box what caused the nothing..

Explain nothing?     well there is nothing to explain..

How do you get outside of infinity..   Outside the nothing?

Step to the right in a open space ..Have you stepped in or out?..

See some say multiverses so if multiverse what holds all the multiverses ..YES the UNIVERSE     UNI ..
You go to university because the word uni means you can study everything ..You study the uni..

But i did think  for it to be so then what was the cause and effect..

The randomness what caused the random event to happen?..

This is a very good condensation of Badecker's mentality.  He will make up any story, contradict any belief, bend any rule to make his point.   Then he'll change his beliefs in a few hours and do it all over it again.

We proved Evolution is not a hoax last year.  BD lost the argument when he could not prove magic.   What he is doing now is dense and pathetic.  Rehashing the same debunked trash over again in a hope new eyes will pull out something he missed.

I'm married to Jennifer Lawrence.

[Astargath]

''Science says that there is nothing without a cause'' Keep claiming bullshit, show me where science says that everything has a cause.

Countless numbers of known C&E actions. Zero known non-C&E actions. Non-scientific odds might suggest that there is still a possibility of at least one non-C&E action somewhere. But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them. Research scientific understanding of probability.

''But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action.'' Broken record, quantum processes are believed to be random unless you can prove them otherwise.

Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing. Just because somebody believes that the satellite around the 3rd planet of a certain star called "Sol" is made of green cheese, doesn't make it so. Are you trying to turn this into a religious topic?

Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically, just because of the way that science views probability.

Go find some non-C&E action and prove it to be such.

You are definitely trolling. You still haven't showed what science says that everything has a cause. ''Countless numbers of known C&E actions'' So what? I asked you about the science as you claimed that it says that everything must have a cause. ''Zero known non-C&E actions.'' Like quantum processes you mean?
We have explored 0.00000000000000000000000000001% of the universe, we might know the causes of almost everything here but how can you claim that we know countless of C&E actions when we haven't explored almost anything in the universe? How do you know we wont find something random, which by the way, science, real science does claim right now that we did, quantum processes. Can you prove them wrong? I'm still waiting.

''But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them'' What science? Who is saying that? Odds against something doesn't mean it's impossible plus I already told you we know the cause of maybe 0.00000000000000000000001% of what's in the universe so the odds against something random are not big at all.

''Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing.'' Says the guy who believes that everything has a cause, hypocrite much?

''Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically'' What science considers it impossible? Link it here, what is it, we are all waiting.


PD: did you leak the nudes of Jennifer lawrence, vod?

[BADecker]

''Science says that there is nothing without a cause'' Keep claiming bullshit, show me where science says that everything has a cause.

Countless numbers of known C&E actions. Zero known non-C&E actions. Non-scientific odds might suggest that there is still a possibility of at least one non-C&E action somewhere. But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them. Research scientific understanding of probability.

''But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action.'' Broken record, quantum processes are believed to be random unless you can prove them otherwise.

Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing. Just because somebody believes that the satellite around the 3rd planet of a certain star called "Sol" is made of green cheese, doesn't make it so. Are you trying to turn this into a religious topic?

Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically, just because of the way that science views probability.

Go find some non-C&E action and prove it to be such.

You are definitely trolling. You still haven't showed what science says that everything has a cause. ''Countless numbers of known C&E actions'' So what? I asked you about the science as you claimed that it says that everything must have a cause. ''Zero known non-C&E actions.'' Like quantum processes you mean?
We have explored 0.00000000000000000000000000001% of the universe, we might know the causes of almost everything here but how can you claim that we know countless of C&E actions when we haven't explored almost anything in the universe? How do you know we wont find something random, which by the way, science, real science does claim right now that we did, quantum processes. Can you prove them wrong? I'm still waiting.

Scientifically speaking, I have told you why science says this. It isn't me. It has to do with probability. The odds are so high against non-C&E that science considers it impossible, by the odds.

You still haven't found even one factual non-C&E event, have you?

''But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them'' What science? Who is saying that? Odds against something doesn't mean it's impossible plus I already told you we know the cause of maybe 0.00000000000000000000001% of what's in the universe so the odds against something random are not big at all.

Well, I can't help it if you don't do your research. You don't seem to accept my research. So, do yours.

''Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing.'' Says the guy who believes that everything has a cause, hypocrite much?

LOL. Now you are trying to confirm for us that evolution is a religion.

''Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically'' What science considers it impossible? Link it here, what is it, we are all waiting.

Do your own research.

Evolution is a hoax. Why? Because the main premise upon which evolution is based hasn't been found anywhere. There is no factual non-C&E event anywhere that we know of. So-called evolution is programming via cause and effect. The Programmer is God.

Evolution is a hoax.

[Astargath]

''Science says that there is nothing without a cause'' Keep claiming bullshit, show me where science says that everything has a cause.

Countless numbers of known C&E actions. Zero known non-C&E actions. Non-scientific odds might suggest that there is still a possibility of at least one non-C&E action somewhere. But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them. Research scientific understanding of probability.

''But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action.'' Broken record, quantum processes are believed to be random unless you can prove them otherwise.

Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing. Just because somebody believes that the satellite around the 3rd planet of a certain star called "Sol" is made of green cheese, doesn't make it so. Are you trying to turn this into a religious topic?

Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically, just because of the way that science views probability.

Go find some non-C&E action and prove it to be such.

You are definitely trolling. You still haven't showed what science says that everything has a cause. ''Countless numbers of known C&E actions'' So what? I asked you about the science as you claimed that it says that everything must have a cause. ''Zero known non-C&E actions.'' Like quantum processes you mean?
We have explored 0.00000000000000000000000000001% of the universe, we might know the causes of almost everything here but how can you claim that we know countless of C&E actions when we haven't explored almost anything in the universe? How do you know we wont find something random, which by the way, science, real science does claim right now that we did, quantum processes. Can you prove them wrong? I'm still waiting.

Scientifically speaking, I have told you why science says this. It isn't me. It has to do with probability. The odds are so high against non-C&E that science considers it impossible, by the odds.

You still haven't found even one factual non-C&E event, have you?

''But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them'' What science? Who is saying that? Odds against something doesn't mean it's impossible plus I already told you we know the cause of maybe 0.00000000000000000000001% of what's in the universe so the odds against something random are not big at all.

Well, I can't help it if you don't do your research. You don't seem to accept my research. So, do yours.

''Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing.'' Says the guy who believes that everything has a cause, hypocrite much?

LOL. Now you are trying to confirm for us that evolution is a religion.

''Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically'' What science considers it impossible? Link it here, what is it, we are all waiting.

Do your own research.

Evolution is a hoax. Why? Because the main premise upon which evolution is based hasn't been found anywhere. There is no factual non-C&E event anywhere that we know of. So-called evolution is programming via cause and effect. The Programmer is God.

Evolution is a hoax.

What science, show me a scientist that says it's impossible because of the odds against it.

https://www.quora.com/Can-we-prove-that-everything-has-a-cause
https://philosophy.stackexchange.com/questions/22546/does-everything-have-a-cause-reason
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THbs_DDDN0I

There is no scientific field that says everything has a cause or that it's impossible to have something without a cause, you are literally just making shit up.

[popcorn1]

''Science says that there is nothing without a cause'' Keep claiming bullshit, show me where science says that everything has a cause.

Countless numbers of known C&E actions. Zero known non-C&E actions. Non-scientific odds might suggest that there is still a possibility of at least one non-C&E action somewhere. But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them. Research scientific understanding of probability.

''But we have essentially countless numbers of C&E actions without finding any non C&E action.'' Broken record, quantum processes are believed to be random unless you can prove them otherwise.

Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing. Just because somebody believes that the satellite around the 3rd planet of a certain star called "Sol" is made of green cheese, doesn't make it so. Are you trying to turn this into a religious topic?

Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically, just because of the way that science views probability.

Go find some non-C&E action and prove it to be such.

You are definitely trolling. You still haven't showed what science says that everything has a cause. ''Countless numbers of known C&E actions'' So what? I asked you about the science as you claimed that it says that everything must have a cause. ''Zero known non-C&E actions.'' Like quantum processes you mean?
We have explored 0.00000000000000000000000000001% of the universe, we might know the causes of almost everything here but how can you claim that we know countless of C&E actions when we haven't explored almost anything in the universe? How do you know we wont find something random, which by the way, science, real science does claim right now that we did, quantum processes. Can you prove them wrong? I'm still waiting.

''But the same odds when considered by science say that non-C&E is impossible because of how great the odds are against them'' What science? Who is saying that? Odds against something doesn't mean it's impossible plus I already told you we know the cause of maybe 0.00000000000000000000001% of what's in the universe so the odds against something random are not big at all.

''Believed, shmelieved. Believed is a religious thing.'' Says the guy who believes that everything has a cause, hypocrite much?

''Research scientific odds to see that the odds against non-C&E actions are so great that they are considered to be impossible, scientifically'' What science considers it impossible? Link it here, what is it, we are all waiting.


PD: did you leak the nudes of Jennifer lawrence, vod?

I thinks they should just say GOD means care..
Rewrite the books saying GOD is care no magic no voodoo just anything about caring ..

A song coming on about GOD the new god the new bible..

WE CARE WE CARE <The Song title  

We care for the trees we care for the bees
everybody likes the trees and the bees
because you don't get sore knees

YEAH i am stoned ..