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January 24, 2018, 01:30:52 PM
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More and more payments systems are going away from BTC.

Payment Processor Stripe Walks Away from Bitcoin:
Irish online payment processor Stripe announced Tuesday (JANUARY 24, 2018) it will discontinue accepting bitcoin payments as of April 23, 2018:
https://www.ccn.com/first-ever-payment-processor-to-accept-bitcoin-walking-away/
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January 24, 2018, 03:16:21 PM
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Bitcoin Cash (The Real Bitcoin) is only 6 months old kid. Give it time to grow. It will eventually become bigger than bitcoin soon.

Bitcoin Cash can never become 'bigger than bitcoin'.

When Bitcoin Cash becomes bigger than Bitcoin Segwit, then Bictoin Cash becomes Bitcoin.

BeeCash will never "become" anything other than a clone of bitcoin .. the founders are even more guarded and obsessed with tricking people into believing in the fraud.. read the twitter handles of these guys they try to impose their view. Bitcoin is bitcoin ~ whereas BeeCash is a shoddy centralized copy see: (shitcoin)

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January 24, 2018, 03:28:32 PM
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What really distinguish BCH from BTC? Except low fee, faster transactions and bigger block. Why do you think it is superior? I'm not a troll or anything like that I'm just being curious. Is development really decentralized or it is just being maintained by solely deadalinx? I know Bitcoin Unlimited develop BCH full node and Bitcoin ABC develop client. And there are other supporters.
What is exactly you mean by saying Satoshi vision.

It's interesting for me. And I think it will be helpful for newcomers.

BCH's vision is basically different because of:
-there's no Segwit
-removed RBF and CPFP
-no fears for on-chain scaling, with (potentially) LN as an additional use case

As usually, time will tell who's right
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January 24, 2018, 04:28:14 PM
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What really distinguish BCH from BTC? Except low fee, faster transactions and bigger block. Why do you think it is superior? I'm not a troll or anything like that I'm just being curious. Is development really decentralized or it is just being maintained by solely deadalinx? I know Bitcoin Unlimited develop BCH full node and Bitcoin ABC develop client. And there are other supporters.
What is exactly you mean by saying Satoshi vision.

It's interesting for me. And I think it will be helpful for newcomers.

BCH's vision is basically different because of:
-there's no Segwit
-removed RBF and CPFP
-no fears for on-chain scaling, with (potentially) LN as an additional use case

As usually, time will tell who's right


I hope BCH will adopt the RSK or other layer two when they are ready.
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January 24, 2018, 04:31:12 PM
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What really distinguish BCH from BTC? Except low fee, faster transactions and bigger block. Why do you think it is superior? I'm not a troll or anything like that I'm just being curious. Is development really decentralized or it is just being maintained by solely deadalinx? I know Bitcoin Unlimited develop BCH full node and Bitcoin ABC develop client. And there are other supporters.
What is exactly you mean by saying Satoshi vision.

It's interesting for me. And I think it will be helpful for newcomers.

BCH's vision is basically different because of:
-there's no Segwit
-removed RBF and CPFP
-no fears for on-chain scaling, with (potentially) LN as an additional use case

As usually, time will tell who's right


I hope BCH will adopt the RSK or other layer two when they are ready.


BCH adopting segwit when they realize that it's "the next big thing" in anonymous payments via onion routing lol Wink n00bs NEVER listen~

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January 24, 2018, 04:34:57 PM
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What really distinguish BCH from BTC? Except low fee, faster transactions and bigger block. Why do you think it is superior?

You said it yourself - low fee, faster transactions and bigger block. And in doing so, it supports all the use cases that core threw overboard in their insane Raspberry Pi fetish.

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I'm not a troll or anything like that I'm just being curious. Is development really decentralized

Yes

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or it is just being maintained by solely deadalinx?

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I know Bitcoin Unlimited develop BCH full node and Bitcoin ABC develop client.

If you knew this, then why did you ask whether deadlnix was the only maintainer? Both could not simultaneously be true.

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And there are other supporters.

Again.

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What is exactly you mean by saying Satoshi vision.

From satoshi's writings, it seems evident to us that Bitcoin was meant to be a 'Peer to peer electronic cash system'. With the direction core has taken, Bitcoin Segwit no longer can claim adherence to this. Hence, Bitcoin Cash.

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January 24, 2018, 05:07:39 PM
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Bitcoin Cash is not much different from other altcoins now.
When bitcoin dumps, bch follows.
I wish it could go the opposite way.

Bitcoin Cash (The Real Bitcoin) is only 6 months old kid. Give it time to grow. It will eventually become bigger than bitcoin soon.

If bcash was the original real bitcoin... how can it be 6 months old, son?

Have some sense please. Jeez...
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January 24, 2018, 05:54:34 PM
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What is exactly you mean by saying Satoshi vision.

From satoshi's writings, it seems evident to us that Bitcoin was meant to be a 'Peer to peer electronic cash system'. With the direction core has taken, Bitcoin Segwit no longer can claim adherence to this. Hence, Bitcoin Cash.


Hal finney worked very close with satoshi he was the first person to ever receive a bitcoin transaction and during this time he said right here that bitcoin will need a second layer solution lightning is that solution

 
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BCASH SHILLS ARE SCAMMERS !
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January 24, 2018, 07:31:09 PM
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What really distinguish BCH from BTC? Except low fee, faster transactions and bigger block. Why do you think it is superior?
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or it is just being maintained by solely deadalinx?

No.

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I know Bitcoin Unlimited develop BCH full node and Bitcoin ABC develop client.

If you knew this, then why did you ask whether deadlnix was the only maintainer? Both could not simultaneously be true.

I asked it because I hear some people saying that BCH development is centralized. Just wanted some clarification.
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January 24, 2018, 07:33:32 PM
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Bitcoin Cash is not much different from other altcoins now.
When bitcoin dumps, bch follows.
I wish it could go the opposite way.

Bitcoin Cash (The Real Bitcoin) is only 6 months old kid. Give it time to grow. It will eventually become bigger than bitcoin soon.
Are you sure? why?
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btc 90.26%   
bch  9.74%

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January 24, 2018, 07:38:59 PM
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WEISS....sorry guys but you fkd up ....all your ratings imo are WRONG...LOL

https://www.docdroid.net/y8xcErJ/weiss-cryptocurrency-ratings.pdf#page=3

Next time you try making a ratings list..try hiring people that have a clue about crypto  Cool

Edit..in fact ...dont bother making a ratings page ...as it is  pointless.

WEISS YOU WILL CAUSE NOOBIES TO LOSE MONEY...NO JOKE.

I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 , chk theymos comment.
Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.btc is no longer what people think it was...https://www.segwetters.org/
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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January 24, 2018, 07:48:42 PM
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Bitcoin Cash is not much different from other altcoins now.
When bitcoin dumps, bch follows.
I wish it could go the opposite way.

Bitcoin Cash (The Real Bitcoin) is only 6 months old kid. Give it time to grow. It will eventually become bigger than bitcoin soon.
Are you sure? why?
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bch  9.74%
Interesting

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January 24, 2018, 08:01:41 PM
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WEISS....sorry guys but you fkd up ....all your ratings imo are WRONG...LOL

https://www.docdroid.net/y8xcErJ/weiss-cryptocurrency-ratings.pdf#page=3

Next time you try making a ratings list..try hiring people that have a clue about crypto  Cool

Edit..in fact ...dont bother making a ratings page ...as it is  pointless.

WEISS YOU WILL CAUSE NOOBIES TO LOSE MONEY...NO JOKE.

They realise Bitcoin is better then Bcash weeeeeeee  Grin Grin Grin Grin
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January 24, 2018, 08:04:48 PM
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YEA both are C..dont be to excited about  - or  + lol
The fact that many .. weak coins are listed higher than multi $bill,established ,big dev team/communities coins,says it all.
Noobies will be burnt if they follow these shit ratings weiss has created.

(prob see pumps on almost all B coins...then weiss will change ratings and the B will become C and dump on the noobs..
at the same time the C rated coins will be moved around causing even more confusin...well done)

I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 , chk theymos comment.
Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.btc is no longer what people think it was...https://www.segwetters.org/
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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January 24, 2018, 11:24:52 PM
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Bitcoin Forum > Merit
You have received a total of 500 merit.
Vot isa dis?? lols

Who wants some MERIT  Cheesy


is this somehow related to me asking for Chaintipr here ?

I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 , chk theymos comment.
Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.btc is no longer what people think it was...https://www.segwetters.org/
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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January 25, 2018, 03:17:22 AM
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Bitcoin Forum > Merit
You have received a total of 500 merit.
Vot isa dis?? lols

Who wants some MERIT  Cheesy


is this somehow related to me asking for Chaintipr here ?
It seems Merit is directly related to your rank.
As far as I can see, all full members have a merit of 100.
It is interesting that I can give at most 3 merit to someone else.

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January 25, 2018, 04:12:20 AM
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YEA both are C..dont be to excited about  - or  + lol
The fact that many .. weak coins are listed higher than multi $bill,established ,big dev team/communities coins,says it all.
Noobies will be burnt if they follow these shit ratings weiss has created.

(prob see pumps on almost all B coins...then weiss will change ratings and the B will become C and dump on the noobs..
at the same time the C rated coins will be moved around causing even more confusin...well done)

https://weisscryptocurrencyratings.com/ratings/thank-your-for-feedback-heres-our-response-130

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Why don’t we give Bitcoin an A? Actually, thanks to Bitcoins strong adoption, brand, and security, it does merit an A … but only on our Fundamental Index.

Problem: That’s just one of our four major metrics. Meanwhile, Bitcoin falls short in two other important areas: Our Risk Index, reflecting extreme price volatility and our Technology Index, reflecting Bitcoin’s weaknesses in  governance, energy consumption and scalability. As soon as the metrics on these improve, an upgrade for Bitcoin is likely.
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January 25, 2018, 04:34:55 AM
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YEA both are C..dont be to excited about  - or  + lol
The fact that many .. weak coins are listed higher than multi $bill,established ,big dev team/communities coins,says it all.
Noobies will be burnt if they follow these shit ratings weiss has created.

(prob see pumps on almost all B coins...then weiss will change ratings and the B will become C and dump on the noobs..
at the same time the C rated coins will be moved around causing even more confusin...well done)

https://weisscryptocurrencyratings.com/ratings/thank-your-for-feedback-heres-our-response-130

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Why don’t we give Bitcoin an A? Actually, thanks to Bitcoins strong adoption, brand, and security, it does merit an A … but only on our Fundamental Index.

Problem: That’s just one of our four major metrics. Meanwhile, Bitcoin falls short in two other important areas: Our Risk Index, reflecting extreme price volatility and our Technology Index, reflecting Bitcoin’s weaknesses in  governance, energy consumption and scalability. As soon as the metrics on these improve, an upgrade for Bitcoin is likely.
Yea but still its wrong imo...
examples from other important areas...
reflecting extreme price volatility ...the top alts are far less volatile than the lower ones...but still. steem,eos,ada got B
 Technology Index, here they seem to have favoured smart contracts...what about what xrp,str have done? what about pos coins? lots of other great tech innovation on other coins.
 weaknesses in  governance, so they think a coin needs a dev team for governance?..imo better.governance comes from bigger communities
 energy consumption..why did they pos coins or hybrid pos not get higher if this is a measure?
 scalability - BCH scales better than btc

these are not questions to you tek btw lol..its just my thoughts..i got loads more on why i disagree..but who cares they can do what they want.  Cheesy


I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 , chk theymos comment.
Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.btc is no longer what people think it was...https://www.segwetters.org/
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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January 25, 2018, 08:31:31 AM
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YEA both are C..dont be to excited about  - or  + lol
The fact that many .. weak coins are listed higher than multi $bill,established ,big dev team/communities coins,says it all.
Noobies will be burnt if they follow these shit ratings weiss has created.

(prob see pumps on almost all B coins...then weiss will change ratings and the B will become C and dump on the noobs..
at the same time the C rated coins will be moved around causing even more confusin...well done)

https://weisscryptocurrencyratings.com/ratings/thank-your-for-feedback-heres-our-response-130

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Why don’t we give Bitcoin an A? Actually, thanks to Bitcoins strong adoption, brand, and security, it does merit an A … but only on our Fundamental Index.

Problem: That’s just one of our four major metrics. Meanwhile, Bitcoin falls short in two other important areas: Our Risk Index, reflecting extreme price volatility and our Technology Index, reflecting Bitcoin’s weaknesses in  governance, energy consumption and scalability. As soon as the metrics on these improve, an upgrade for Bitcoin is likely.

You see again - middlemen can't be trusted.

What is part of security like 'energy consumption'  = PoW = neg entropy  = order generation > strong security

and where is decentralized governance / coding  -> protocol immutability = security ?

Trading Vol ?

Years of stability ?


I fear that some companies did pay for this rankings / lobbied the entire metrics as we know for Moodys et al  -> Crypto should ban these middle men and ignor!


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