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January 20, 2018, 07:21:24 PM
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you are not more intelligent

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January 20, 2018, 07:35:05 PM
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im not claiming to be

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January 20, 2018, 07:36:20 PM
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^ BCH PLS  Cheesy

I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 , chk theymos comment.
Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.btc is no longer what people think it was...https://www.segwetters.org/
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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January 20, 2018, 07:40:46 PM
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bch at $ 2100, thanks to these characters many people stopped winning when the price was $ 1700 a few days ago. Trolls like

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Thanks core paid trolls

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January 20, 2018, 07:43:29 PM
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bch at $ 2100, thanks to these characters many people stopped winning when the price was $ 1700 a few days ago. Trolls like

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Thanks core paid trolls
nice to see I'm top of the list

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January 20, 2018, 08:01:17 PM
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January 20, 2018, 08:45:49 PM
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Guys as you may or may not know...its not easy finding info on this lightning stuff.
I have been looking at it more to see what the fuss is all about and tbh...ITS SHIT lol

The noobies and alot more barely understand basic crypto wallet-wallet stuff...how the hell does anyone expect them to learn about paychans and hubs aswell,lol.
Then the lightning network expects you to tie up funds in the network order to use it...NO chance people are going to do that in such a volatile market.
The LN expects businesses to adopt it, hold btc in hubs and provide liquidty for it (or something) ...again merchants have left and they will not come back to a system thats even more complex....
I could go on and on...
jeeezz i wish you guys(segweeters) discussed this sooner....created a thread , had a chat...because im 100% serious...LN IS SHIT.

I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 , chk theymos comment.
Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.btc is no longer what people think it was...https://www.segwetters.org/
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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January 20, 2018, 08:59:08 PM
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Guys as you may or may not know...its not easy finding info on this lightning stuff.
I have been looking at it more to see what the fuss is all about and tbh...ITS SHIT lol

The noobies and alot more barely understand basic crypto wallet-wallet stuff...how the hell does anyone expect them to learn about paychans and hubs aswell,lol.
Then the lightning network expects you to tie up funds in the network order to use it...NO chance people are going to do that in such a volatile market.
The LN expects businesses to adopt it, hold btc in hubs and provide liquidty for it (or something) ...again merchants have left and they will not come back to a system thats even more complex....
I could go on and on...
jeeezz i wish you guys(segweeters) discussed this sooner....created a thread , had a chat...because im 100% serious...LN IS SHIT.

Who did you ask because everything you said in wrong

1. Noobies don't need to understand anything the wallet will handle everything have you seen a signed Bitcoin transaction output how many do you think understand that over type amount and click send

2.Tie up what funds you can close the channel at any point and the funds are back on the block chain well actually there never left the chain

3. Hubs hold nothing everything is on chain you just keep a signed record of transactions that gets pushed back on chain when you close the channel that does another transaction with the latest balance to your funding wallet

If you can't find out basic information then no wonder you are so clueless to everything in future don't ask Roger
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January 20, 2018, 09:06:19 PM
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Sounds sooo myspace my dear.  Sad thing though...

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January 20, 2018, 09:14:46 PM
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This is the most centralized crypto which is overpriced by the group of people. Controled by one mining pool. Roger Ver approach is disgusting. He is always trying to abuse Bitcoin Core to promote Bitcoin Cash. Hey, look at you? You are multi-millionare because of thi Bitcoin Core, not because you forked and create you damn clone! It will remain clone of Bitcoin forever! I never bought any Bitcoin Cash and will never do! Even if it will overprice Bitcoin!
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January 20, 2018, 09:19:27 PM
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Guys as you may or may not know...its not easy finding info on this lightning stuff.
I have been looking at it more to see what the fuss is all about and tbh...ITS SHIT lol

The noobies and alot more barely understand basic crypto wallet-wallet stuff...how the hell does anyone expect them to learn about paychans and hubs aswell,lol.
Then the lightning network expects you to tie up funds in the network order to use it...NO chance people are going to do that in such a volatile market.
The LN expects businesses to adopt it, hold btc in hubs and provide liquidty for it (or something) ...again merchants have left and they will not come back to a system thats even more complex....
I could go on and on...
jeeezz i wish you guys(segweeters) discussed this sooner....created a thread , had a chat...because im 100% serious...LN IS SHIT.

Who did you ask because everything you said in wrong

1. Noobies don't need to understand anything the wallet will handle everything have you seen a signed Bitcoin transaction output how many do you think understand that over type amount and click send

2.Tie up what funds you can close the channel at any point and the funds are back on the block chain well actually there never left the chain

3. Hubs hold nothing everything is on chain you just keep a signed record of transactions that gets pushed back on chain when you close the channel that does another transaction with the latest balance to your funding wallet

If you can't find out basic information then no wonder you are so clueless to everything in future don't ask Roger

https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/7rs3km/i_have_studied_the_lightning_network_and_how_it/

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January 20, 2018, 09:21:07 PM
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As for me ВСH is one of the most unpredictable coins. But I'm willing to take risks and keep this coin in my portfolio. I guess the developers will make several attempts to prove to the community that their coin is better than BTС in this year. And in these moments the price of BCH will grow drammaticaly for sure.

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January 20, 2018, 09:25:03 PM
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Guys as you may or may not know...its not easy finding info on this lightning stuff.
I have been looking at it more to see what the fuss is all about and tbh...ITS SHIT lol

The noobies and alot more barely understand basic crypto wallet-wallet stuff...how the hell does anyone expect them to learn about paychans and hubs aswell,lol.
Then the lightning network expects you to tie up funds in the network order to use it...NO chance people are going to do that in such a volatile market.
The LN expects businesses to adopt it, hold btc in hubs and provide liquidty for it (or something) ...again merchants have left and they will not come back to a system thats even more complex....
I could go on and on...
jeeezz i wish you guys(segweeters) discussed this sooner....created a thread , had a chat...because im 100% serious...LN IS SHIT.

Who did you ask because everything you said in wrong

1. Noobies don't need to understand anything the wallet will handle everything have you seen a signed Bitcoin transaction output how many do you think understand that over type amount and click send

2.Tie up what funds you can close the channel at any point and the funds are back on the block chain well actually there never left the chain

3. Hubs hold nothing everything is on chain you just keep a signed record of transactions that gets pushed back on chain when you close the channel that does another transaction with the latest balance to your funding wallet

If you can't find out basic information then no wonder you are so clueless to everything in future don't ask Roger
Where is this basic info you keep finding? please dont send me to reddit or twitter lol
What about the cost of opening and closing a channel?

I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 , chk theymos comment.
Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.btc is no longer what people think it was...https://www.segwetters.org/
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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January 20, 2018, 09:26:09 PM
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I never bought any Bitcoin Cash and will never do! Even if it will overprice Bitcoin!

You dont need to because it wont be happening

As for me ВСH is one of the most unpredictable coins. But I'm willing to take risks and keep this coin in my portfolio. I guess the developers will make several attempts to prove to the community that their coin is better than BTС in this year. And in these moments the price of BCH will grow drammaticaly for sure.

1. Every developers wants the best for their coin

2. Roger Ver is the guy behind this coin

3. There are tons of other reason that BCH's exchange rate could be higher but sadly, it is nothing more than a centralized coin ( Atleast this is what my perspective is ). It will never be better than bitcoin
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January 20, 2018, 09:31:00 PM
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ffs all you roger ver fans,,stfu pls lols
he owns old btc aswell, have you all forgot?

BCH is Bitcoin...old fork btc is blockstream coin...understand the facts please.

I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 , chk theymos comment.
Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.btc is no longer what people think it was...https://www.segwetters.org/
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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January 20, 2018, 10:15:34 PM
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Guys as you may or may not know...its not easy finding info on this lightning stuff.
I have been looking at it more to see what the fuss is all about and tbh...ITS SHIT lol

The noobies and alot more barely understand basic crypto wallet-wallet stuff...how the hell does anyone expect them to learn about paychans and hubs aswell,lol.
Then the lightning network expects you to tie up funds in the network order to use it...NO chance people are going to do that in such a volatile market.
The LN expects businesses to adopt it, hold btc in hubs and provide liquidty for it (or something) ...again merchants have left and they will not come back to a system thats even more complex....
I could go on and on...
jeeezz i wish you guys(segweeters) discussed this sooner....created a thread , had a chat...because im 100% serious...LN IS SHIT.

Who did you ask because everything you said in wrong

1. Noobies don't need to understand anything the wallet will handle everything have you seen a signed Bitcoin transaction output how many do you think understand that over type amount and click send

2.Tie up what funds you can close the channel at any point and the funds are back on the block chain well actually there never left the chain

3. Hubs hold nothing everything is on chain you just keep a signed record of transactions that gets pushed back on chain when you close the channel that does another transaction with the latest balance to your funding wallet

If you can't find out basic information then no wonder you are so clueless to everything in future don't ask Roger
Where is this basic info you keep finding? please dont send me to reddit or twitter lol
What about the cost of opening and closing a channel?

1. I use it therefore know how basic the experience is it's actually easier than sending a normal transaction as the receiver creates the invoice and all you do is scan and click pay  
2. I actually read the specifications


Just for you I closed out the 1 channel I had on testnet see how simple it it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AltZ2WjGyx4

Is this what you call locking up the funds ?

https://live.blockcypher.com/btc-testnet/tx/51022c876337e1975ab9fcb181574ea4250617b802b3033e19d151d8bdca16d7/

The transaction output back to my wallet onchain to do whatever I need
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January 20, 2018, 10:22:03 PM
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 , chk theymos comment.
Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.btc is no longer what people think it was...https://www.segwetters.org/
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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January 20, 2018, 10:45:22 PM
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong

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January 20, 2018, 11:27:59 PM
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Looks like main stream media has figured it out already!



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