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Author Topic: [ANN] Bitcoin Cash - Pro on-chain scaling - Cheaper fees  (Read 703517 times)
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January 23, 2018, 12:09:26 PM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/BTCTN/status/955014401932890112/photo/1


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notary is the highest judicial officer in each county btw. just sayin'..  



And thx to all trolls that helped BScore to ignore:

https://youtu.be/IdWV0xHP590

 
 ^^ similar concern>>> happening for ten years now: the subversion of the os via hardware

Do you have a link? Looks like a good read. Could be very true every G8 country is spying on their citizens.

comment not mine: None of the fixes can possibly work, because they are like trying to attach a fifth piston in a 4 cylinder engine. Intel processors are designed to function fully subservient to the NSA and now that they got busted for it, there is nothing they can do to fix it! The "patch", which has now been revealed to try to fix the problem by tweaking the BIOS (and not the operating system, that was a lie all along) causes the computers that get them to behave like they are drunk, with random crashes, reboots, and total general instability and for some reason, once the "patch" is applied, it cannot be undone because it screws the BIOS.

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January 23, 2018, 12:39:24 PM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/BTCTN/status/955014401932890112/photo/1


Verify Essential Documents Using the Bitcoin Cash Blockchain

notary is the highest judicial officer in each county btw. just sayin'..  



And thx to all trolls that helped BScore to ignore:

https://youtu.be/IdWV0xHP590

 
 ^^ similar concern>>> happening for ten years now: the subversion of the os via hardware

Do you have a link? Looks like a good read. Could be very true every G8 country is spying on their citizens.

comment not mine: None of the fixes can possibly work, because they are like trying to attach a fifth piston in a 4 cylinder engine. Intel processors are designed to function fully subservient to the NSA and now that they got busted for it, there is nothing they can do to fix it! The "patch", which has now been revealed to try to fix the problem by tweaking the BIOS (and not the operating system, that was a lie all along) causes the computers that get them to behave like they are drunk, with random crashes, reboots, and total general instability and for some reason, once the "patch" is applied, it cannot be undone because it screws the BIOS.

Haha - thats a great analogy and I associated this here:

Segwit is like the try to generate more space in your old car -> Move out its engine to a attached tender...

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January 23, 2018, 01:41:13 PM
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Globee Payment Processor supports Bitcoin Cash

https://globee.com/

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January 23, 2018, 02:30:18 PM
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Yet the fees are the lowest they have been in while 20sat/B transactions are being processed now



When are you going to stop lying?

ok, I did not remember that you get paid for it, core troll


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January 23, 2018, 03:00:08 PM
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Yet the fees are the lowest they have been in while 20sat/B transactions are being processed now



When are you going to stop lying?

ok, I did not remember that you get paid for it, core troll



17sat/byte tx. 3 confirmations right now.
https://bitaps.com/514f49325ad11a054b8d082c15ef91b034140f31c2ab567eb0033f054ce2f239

Confirmation time   6 minutes

I assume you are getting paid for shilling bch.
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January 23, 2018, 04:10:47 PM
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Yet the fees are the lowest they have been in while 20sat/B transactions are being processed now



When are you going to stop lying?

ok, I did not remember that you get paid for it, core troll



17sat/byte tx. 3 confirmations right now.
https://bitaps.com/514f49325ad11a054b8d082c15ef91b034140f31c2ab567eb0033f054ce2f239

Confirmation time   6 minutes

I assume you are getting paid for shilling bch.

look! A new work partner of tekmobile, that's fine!

Also use a tx accelerator to cheat.

In any case, the average is $ 14.38 today

and to my regret they do not pay me, they could, I only expose facts

and the facts are these

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactionfees-btc-bch.html#3m

If you paid less than a dollar someone paid more than 100 haha

the statistics do not fail my friend

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January 23, 2018, 05:33:17 PM
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Yet the fees are the lowest they have been in while 20sat/B transactions are being processed now



When are you going to stop lying?

ok, I did not remember that you get paid for it, core troll



17sat/byte tx. 3 confirmations right now.
https://bitaps.com/514f49325ad11a054b8d082c15ef91b034140f31c2ab567eb0033f054ce2f239

Confirmation time   6 minutes

I assume you are getting paid for shilling bch.
^woaaa -58 trust...and not for calling BCH the real bitcoin....
you must be a scammer  Tongue

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January 23, 2018, 06:40:35 PM
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Yet the fees are the lowest they have been in while 20sat/B transactions are being processed now



When are you going to stop lying?

ok, I did not remember that you get paid for it, core troll



17sat/byte tx. 3 confirmations right now.
https://bitaps.com/514f49325ad11a054b8d082c15ef91b034140f31c2ab567eb0033f054ce2f239

Confirmation time   6 minutes

I assume you are getting paid for shilling bch.
^woaaa -58 trust...and not for calling BCH the real bitcoin....
you must be a scammer  Tongue
lol so much red trust in this thread

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January 23, 2018, 06:47:40 PM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/BTCTN/status/955014401932890112/photo/1


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notary is the highest judicial officer in each county btw. just sayin'..  



And thx to all trolls that helped BScore to ignore:

https://youtu.be/IdWV0xHP590

 
 ^^ similar concern>>> happening for ten years now: the subversion of the os via hardware

Do you have a link? Looks like a good read. Could be very true every G8 country is spying on their citizens.

comment not mine: None of the fixes can possibly work, because they are like trying to attach a fifth piston in a 4 cylinder engine. Intel processors are designed to function fully subservient to the NSA and now that they got busted for it, there is nothing they can do to fix it! The "patch", which has now been revealed to try to fix the problem by tweaking the BIOS (and not the operating system, that was a lie all along) causes the computers that get them to behave like they are drunk, with random crashes, reboots, and total general instability and for some reason, once the "patch" is applied, it cannot be undone because it screws the BIOS.

Haha - thats a great analogy and I associated this here:

Segwit is like the try to generate more space in your old car -> Move out its engine to a attached tender...

right.  at what point do we call it a trolley and not a car?  From at least an engineering standpoint Wink  


here the unofficial way to handle the Microsoft core "patch".  Note to facility managers and as a general disclaimer: Wait a while before implementing the following fix for these processors, just in case there is a miracle in the next two weeks. Don't bet on any true fix ever happening. Your pants are down until then.  


FACT: ALL AMD PROCESSORS ATHLON FORWARD ARE NOT BASED ON INTEL TECH, AS PER THE INITIAL AGREEMENT THAT ALLOWED AMD TO COPY INTEL CORES EARLY ON. ALL AMD PROCESSORS MADE AFTER 1998 USE TECH FROM DIGITAL EQUIPMENT CORPORATION'S ALPHA PROCESSOR. AMD SIMPLY DOES NOT HAVE THE SAME BUG, AS MANY HAVE CLAIMED.


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January 23, 2018, 06:52:01 PM
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Yea sad to see how poor the trust system is on this whole forum.
When real scammers and real bitcoiners have red trust...shows something just aint right here.

Lets make Bitcointalk great again guys :-)
Mods/owner should allow BCH donations...
https://themerkle.com/chain-tip-is-another-popular-bitcoin-cash-reddit-tipbot/
Add Chaintip to bitcointalk...tip the useful posts, dont tip the trolls...watch how quick this place gets smart again Wink



Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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January 23, 2018, 07:11:29 PM
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Yea sad to see how poor the trust system is on this whole forum.
When real scammers and real bitcoiners have red trust...shows something just aint right here.

Lets make Bitcointalk great again guys :-)
Mods/owner should allow BCH donations...
https://themerkle.com/chain-tip-is-another-popular-bitcoin-cash-reddit-tipbot/
Add Chaintip to bitcointalk...tip the useful posts, dont tip the trolls...watch how quick this place gets smart again Wink




if chaintip adds function to this forum at considered work and time to himself.  What guarantee exists that the forum moderator will not change the forum the next day (planned upgrade) to ruin all the effort done by chaintip?

Mr. Pumperitis, I had reached out to chaintipr per your first mention and he responded with this rational concern.  So yes today I am sad to report that this forum moderator has caused a disincentive to be realized to the real bitcoin from a real world usages.  He knows Thermos has become political in his admin of this forum and is expecting censorship if he makes chaintip work here.

In response twitter is the now selected forum to get the chaintip tool next and then it will be made open source a few weeks after that for  other platforms to adopt.

    A development environment is offered by chaintip to any developers looking to test the code for their platform before submitting a pull request.

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January 23, 2018, 07:22:21 PM
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Yet the fees are the lowest they have been in while 20sat/B transactions are being processed now



When are you going to stop lying?

ok, I did not remember that you get paid for it, core troll



17sat/byte tx. 3 confirmations right now.
https://bitaps.com/514f49325ad11a054b8d082c15ef91b034140f31c2ab567eb0033f054ce2f239

Confirmation time   6 minutes

I assume you are getting paid for shilling bch.

look! A new work partner of tekmobile, that's fine!

Also use a tx accelerator to cheat.

In any case, the average is $ 14.38 today

and to my regret they do not pay me, they could, I only expose facts

and the facts are these

https://bitinfocharts.com/comparison/transactionfees-btc-bch.html#3m

If you paid less than a dollar someone paid more than 100 haha

the statistics do not fail my friend

Not my transaction. IDC


Yet the fees are the lowest they have been in while 20sat/B transactions are being processed now



When are you going to stop lying?

ok, I did not remember that you get paid for it, core troll



17sat/byte tx. 3 confirmations right now.
https://bitaps.com/514f49325ad11a054b8d082c15ef91b034140f31c2ab567eb0033f054ce2f239

Confirmation time   6 minutes

I assume you are getting paid for shilling bch.
^woaaa -58 trust...and not for calling BCH the real bitcoin....
you must be a scammer  Tongue

Registration date 2015 and you call yourself a real bitcoiner? Noob
I'm not a scammer by the way but i agree trust system is fucked up here.
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January 23, 2018, 07:23:15 PM
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Yea sad to see how poor the trust system is on this whole forum.
When real scammers and real bitcoiners have red trust...shows something just aint right here.

Lets make Bitcointalk great again guys :-)
Mods/owner should allow BCH donations...
https://themerkle.com/chain-tip-is-another-popular-bitcoin-cash-reddit-tipbot/
Add Chaintip to bitcointalk...tip the useful posts, dont tip the trolls...watch how quick this place gets smart again Wink




if chaintip adds function to this forum at considered work and time to himself.  What guarantee exists that forum moderator will not change forum next day (planned upgrade) to ruin all the effort done by chaintip?

Mr. Pumper, I had reached out to chaintipr per your first mention and he responded with this rational concern.  So yes today I am sad to report that this forum moderator has caused a disincentive to be realized to the real bitcoin from a real world usages.  He knows Thermos has become political in his admin of this forum and is expecting censorship if he makes chaintip work here.

In response twitter is the now selected forum to get the chaintip tool next and then it will be made open source a few weeks after that for  other platforms to adopt.

    A development environment if offered by chaintip to any developers looking to test their code for their platform before submitting a pull request.
wow, thanks for the work and info  Smiley
I see your point and the chaintip guys, and yea i agree....
this is why i was hoping Bitcointalk could agree something with Chaintip (but the powers in control here wont allow that)
i would donate to both parties if it were to ever happen  Smiley

Well done on twitter and reddit...seems like they are both becoming the new homes for crypto information ..and tipping users that share good info is the best way to bring in traffic..everybody wins...(why cant Bitcointalk see this...evolve or die is the saying)


(escrow guy...YES ALL BCH  community are REAL BITCOINERS)

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January 23, 2018, 07:50:43 PM
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Nice readup here

https://blog.sfox.com/the-bitcoin-cash-people-platforms-wallets-and-miners-you-need-to-know-afa53aaa3c66

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January 23, 2018, 08:17:42 PM
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Yea sad to see how poor the trust system is on this whole forum.
When real scammers and real bitcoiners have red trust...shows something just aint right here.

Lets make Bitcointalk great again guys :-)
Mods/owner should allow BCH donations...
https://themerkle.com/chain-tip-is-another-popular-bitcoin-cash-reddit-tipbot/
Add Chaintip to bitcointalk...tip the useful posts, dont tip the trolls...watch how quick this place gets smart again Wink




if chaintip adds function to this forum at considered work and time to himself.  What guarantee exists that forum moderator will not change forum next day (planned upgrade) to ruin all the effort done by chaintip?

Mr. Pumper, I had reached out to chaintipr per your first mention and he responded with this rational concern.  So yes today I am sad to report that this forum moderator has caused a disincentive to be realized to the real bitcoin from a real world usages.  He knows Thermos has become political in his admin of this forum and is expecting censorship if he makes chaintip work here.

In response twitter is the now selected forum to get the chaintip tool next and then it will be made open source a few weeks after that for  other platforms to adopt.

    A development environment if offered by chaintip to any developers looking to test their code for their platform before submitting a pull request.
wow, thanks for the work and info  Smiley
I see your point and the chaintip guys, and yea i agree....
this is why i was hoping Bitcointalk could agree something with Chaintip (but the powers in control here wont allow that)
i would donate to both parties if it were to ever happen  Smiley

Well done on twitter and reddit...seems like they are both becoming the new homes for crypto information ..and tipping users that share good info is the best way to bring in traffic..everybody wins...(why cant Bitcointalk see this...evolve or die is the saying)


(escrow guy...YES ALL BCH  community are REAL BITCOINERS)


But still, I believe bitcointalk will always be the most effective channel for attracting investors and new users of projects. At a minimum, this is due to the fact that there are thousands of people who are engaged in bounty programs. They have to read a lot of information, including those related to projects. This affects their decision when choosing where to invest money.At the same time, I agree that Twitter is a great success every day.

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January 23, 2018, 09:48:20 PM
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https://techcrunch.com/2018/01/23/stripe-is-ending-support-for-bitcoin-payments-on-april-23/  Shocked Shocked Shocked Tongue
ohh svenny where are ya...

Payments platform Stripe will stop supporting bitcoin in April,
Payments platform Stripe will stop supporting bitcoin in April,
Payments platform Stripe will stop supporting bitcoin in April,
 citing the cryptocurrency’s volatility and long transaction times, among other things. It’s a logical decision, but one likely to anger the easily provoked crypto-crowd.

The problems with BTC are hard to deny for anyone who use it regularly. For one thing, entering a transfer into the blockchain may take hours, which is already a bummer for merchant transactions, but during that delay the value of the transferred BTC may also have shifted considerably, producing the wrong fiat dollar value.

Fees have also increased as the value of BTC has risen, something that has stifled commerce and trading using the coin elsewhere as well.


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January 23, 2018, 11:31:46 PM
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https://imgur.com/ZdA3vAg
0.44 cent BTC transactions 1 hour confirmation, looks like BTC is back to being usable
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0.44 cent BTC transactions 1 hour confirmation, looks like BTC is back to being usable
Until more people try to use it  Wink

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January 23, 2018, 11:50:19 PM
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https://mobile.twitter.com/BTCTN/status/955014401932890112/photo/1


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notary is the highest judicial officer in each county btw. just sayin'..  



And thx to all trolls that helped BScore to ignore:

https://youtu.be/IdWV0xHP590

 
 ^^ similar concern>>> happening for ten years now: the subversion of the os via hardware

Do you have a link? Looks like a good read. Could be very true every G8 country is spying on their citizens.

comment not mine: None of the fixes can possibly work, because they are like trying to attach a fifth piston in a 4 cylinder engine. Intel processors are designed to function fully subservient to the NSA and now that they got busted for it, there is nothing they can do to fix it! The "patch", which has now been revealed to try to fix the problem by tweaking the BIOS (and not the operating system, that was a lie all along) causes the computers that get them to behave like they are drunk, with random crashes, reboots, and total general instability and for some reason, once the "patch" is applied, it cannot be undone because it screws the BIOS.

For everything else, there's RISC-V.

Anyone with a campaign ad in their signature -- for an organization with which they are not otherwise affiliated -- is automatically deducted credibility points.

I've been convicted of heresy. Convicted by a mere known extortionist. Read my Trust for details.
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