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January 14, 2018, 03:12:10 PM
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that's interesting looking forward to ferther information

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January 14, 2018, 03:30:15 PM
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BCH - Bitcoin Cash is moving to $300 by the end of January. Currently Bitcoin Dev are working on lightening network to make BTC fees cheaper. Currently BCH fees is cheaper than BTC. If everything will go as expected nicely, bitcoin cash price may go down further than $300. BCH is sinking.

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January 14, 2018, 04:34:34 PM
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BCH - Bitcoin Cash is moving to $300 by the end of January. Currently Bitcoin Dev are working on lightening network to make BTC fees cheaper. Currently BCH fees is cheaper than BTC. If everything will go as expected nicely, bitcoin cash price may go down further than $300. BCH is sinking.

It makes sense, BTC will come back soon and BCH is not worth so much due to bitcoin's rally.
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January 14, 2018, 05:04:02 PM
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OH BTW,

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January 14, 2018, 05:10:44 PM
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Also for those of you who Doubt BTC is now a Store of value... dig this.

The value of the average bitcoin transaction rose from $4,000 to $80,000 in 2017. https://t.co/9bBhuz8gbW pic.twitter.com/tKNhWpdWPJ
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January 14, 2018, 05:14:53 PM
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If I invest in BCH now, is it too late? I see the current price is slightly higher. But it is very potential.  Please give me some advice.

Yes it's too late. It's a shitcoin very manipulated full of Bshills spamming propogranda.
They are claiming for months that the flippening is happening as you can see there is no flippening at all.

I recommend you to do your own research and don't listen to anyone here that is red tagged.
Those people can't be trusted.

It seems totally irresponsible to me your bad investment advice.

Also the same shit as always, Fud and more Fud. I should read the definition of shitcoin before saying that bch is.

Bitcoin cash now has important fundamentals that make it an investment for the coming months.

haidangtp ignore him, stupidity is a very dangerous weapon.

Any time is good to invest in Bitcoin cash, in 6 months your investment will have more value, I assure you.


It would help to fight the fud if you were giving real arguments to help BCH instead of saying there are arguments

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January 14, 2018, 05:40:45 PM
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If I invest in BCH now, is it too late? I see the current price is slightly higher. But it is very potential.  Please give me some advice.

Yes it's too late. It's a shitcoin very manipulated full of Bshills spamming propogranda.
They are claiming for months that the flippening is happening as you can see there is no flippening at all.

I recommend you to do your own research and don't listen to anyone here that is red tagged.
Those people can't be trusted.

It seems totally irresponsible to me your bad investment advice.

Also the same shit as always, Fud and more Fud. I should read the definition of shitcoin before saying that bch is.

Bitcoin cash now has important fundamentals that make it an investment for the coming months.

haidangtp ignore him, stupidity is a very dangerous weapon.

Any time is good to invest in Bitcoin cash, in 6 months your investment will have more value, I assure you.


It would help to fight the fud if you were giving real arguments to help BCH instead of saying there are arguments


most smart asic miners switching over to TEKcash(no-segwit) it's a SHA-256 bitcoin fork that came out wayyyy before BeeCash :-D weee ===>

https://yobit.net/en/trade/TEK/BTC

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January 14, 2018, 05:55:05 PM
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If I invest in BCH now, is it too late? I see the current price is slightly higher. But it is very potential.  Please give me some advice.

Yes it's too late. It's a shitcoin very manipulated full of Bshills spamming propogranda.
They are claiming for months that the flippening is happening as you can see there is no flippening at all.

I recommend you to do your own research and don't listen to anyone here that is red tagged.
Those people can't be trusted.

It seems totally irresponsible to me your bad investment advice.

Also the same shit as always, Fud and more Fud. I should read the definition of shitcoin before saying that bch is.

Bitcoin cash now has important fundamentals that make it an investment for the coming months.

haidangtp ignore him, stupidity is a very dangerous weapon.

Any time is good to invest in Bitcoin cash, in 6 months your investment will have more value, I assure you.


It would help to fight the fud if you were giving real arguments to help BCH instead of saying there are arguments


most smart asic miners switching over to TEKcash(no-segwit) it's a SHA-256 bitcoin fork that came out wayyyy before BeeCash :-D weee ===>

https://yobit.net/en/trade/TEK/BTC

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January 14, 2018, 06:01:44 PM
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 Smiley This place is full of ignorants who do not know anything about bitcoin history. The main names under the success of Bitcoin all of them are NOW in BitcoinCash right now. As a business teacher in one of the Dutch universities, I have been following them for a long time. The same names and even a greater team now organize a lot of meeting, seminaries, and workshops around the world to make BitcoinCash even bigger. The banks took over Bitcoin, yet BitcoinCash with world-changing mission and vision is going to be the biggest digital currency. I certainly believe that it will touch $10.000 to 20.000 this year. And I know for sure that even Facebook is going to implement ETH/BITCOINCASH in the coming months. Nothing will beat Bitcoincash
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January 14, 2018, 06:07:50 PM
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the most annoying and easy to manipulate crypto  Undecided

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January 14, 2018, 08:36:32 PM
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Smiley This place is full of ignorants who do not know anything about bitcoin history. The main names under the success of Bitcoin all of them are NOW in BitcoinCash right now. As a business teacher in one of the Dutch universities, I have been following them for a long time. The same names and even a greater team now organize a lot of meeting, seminaries, and workshops around the world to make BitcoinCash even bigger. The banks took over Bitcoin, yet BitcoinCash with world-changing mission and vision is going to be the biggest digital currency. I certainly believe that it will touch $10.000 to 20.000 this year. And I know for sure that even Facebook is going to implement ETH/BITCOINCASH in the coming months. Nothing will beat Bitcoincash

You are clearly misinformed and need history lessons.

Those dudes you mentioned were promoting bitcoin while they were benefiting from bitcoin. (like abusing ASICBOOST) After segwit upgrade became serious, they all went mad and became anti bitcoin because segwit upgrade threatened their ASIC-miner monopoly. LN also threatens their miner-hardware sales because LN is going to make on-chain tx's less important. They just created artificial bullshit to fork away just to keep their businesses alive. I don't give a rat's ass about that. But hijacking the bitcoin name and creating a brand confusion, that's fraud. People lost money because of that brand confusion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2704630.msg28113263#msg28113263
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January 14, 2018, 08:59:09 PM
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Smiley This place is full of ignorants who do not know anything about bitcoin history. The main names under the success of Bitcoin all of them are NOW in BitcoinCash right now. As a business teacher in one of the Dutch universities, I have been following them for a long time. The same names and even a greater team now organize a lot of meeting, seminaries, and workshops around the world to make BitcoinCash even bigger. The banks took over Bitcoin, yet BitcoinCash with world-changing mission and vision is going to be the biggest digital currency. I certainly believe that it will touch $10.000 to 20.000 this year. And I know for sure that even Facebook is going to implement ETH/BITCOINCASH in the coming months. Nothing will beat Bitcoincash
Dude you have squat for transactions..and when you look at Bcash tx history you see three BIG spikes with nothing in between. Your hated by the BTC community for trying to steal our NAME and all you got is Cheap and fast..well both will be Negated by LN and or SEGwit2x   AAAANNNDD finally who gives a crap about a 30$ TX fee when you realize that the AVG BTC TX  is 80 k $ USD ?? Not me cause I send LTC from, GDAX for cheapss. FUD some more about " the real Bitcoin"
The value of the average bitcoin transaction rose from $4,000 to $80,000 in 2017. https://t.co/9bBhuz8gbW pic.twitter.com/tKNhWpdWPJ
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January 14, 2018, 09:20:12 PM
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Smiley This place is full of ignorants who do not know anything about bitcoin history. The main names under the success of Bitcoin all of them are NOW in BitcoinCash right now. As a business teacher in one of the Dutch universities, I have been following them for a long time. The same names and even a greater team now organize a lot of meeting, seminaries, and workshops around the world to make BitcoinCash even bigger. The banks took over Bitcoin, yet BitcoinCash with world-changing mission and vision is going to be the biggest digital currency. I certainly believe that it will touch $10.000 to 20.000 this year. And I know for sure that even Facebook is going to implement ETH/BITCOINCASH in the coming months. Nothing will beat Bitcoincash


When you have to use speculation and belief to defend a project supposed to be young, it doesnt smell good...


You all should be able to show links to explain why this is great, and what's planned in a near future

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Smiley This place is full of ignorants who do not know anything about bitcoin history. The main names under the success of Bitcoin all of them are NOW in BitcoinCash right now. As a business teacher in one of the Dutch universities, I have been following them for a long time. The same names and even a greater team now organize a lot of meeting, seminaries, and workshops around the world to make BitcoinCash even bigger. The banks took over Bitcoin, yet BitcoinCash with world-changing mission and vision is going to be the biggest digital currency. I certainly believe that it will touch $10.000 to 20.000 this year. And I know for sure that even Facebook is going to implement ETH/BITCOINCASH in the coming months. Nothing will beat Bitcoincash

You are clearly misinformed and need history lessons.

Those dudes you mentioned were promoting bitcoin while they were benefiting from bitcoin. (like abusing ASICBOOST) After segwit upgrade became serious, they all went mad and became anti bitcoin because segwit upgrade threatened their ASIC-miner monopoly. LN also threatens their miner-hardware sales because LN is going to make on-chain tx's less important. They just created artificial bullshit to fork away just to keep their businesses alive. I don't give a rat's ass about that. But hijacking the bitcoin name and creating a brand confusion, that's fraud. People lost money because of that brand confusion.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2704630.msg28113263#msg28113263



This argument seems more accurate and better explained, i wish bitcoin cash had something to offer to investors but no one can convice me here

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January 14, 2018, 10:04:10 PM
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When you have to use speculation and belief to defend a project supposed to be young, it doesnt smell good...

You all should be able to show links to explain why this is great, and what's planned in a near future

People are pretty tired of copy/pasting the huge list of arguments in favor of BCH and against BTC. Most of these idiots posting "BCASH HAHA SHITCOIN LOL JIHAN WU" are ignored by the majority of people with more than a few brain cells here...

but I'll humor you:

Bitcoin Cash has:
* 8x Larger blocksize, meaning 8x the capacity
* 5000x lower fees than BTC
* unencumbered by Segwit, which isn't used and doesn't do anything but make the code 6000 lines longer
* Replace-by-Fee removed - the most controversial and horrible feature ever introduced to BTC by Peter Todd for money on behalf of a CIA agent named "John Dillon"
* Devs who aren't compromised by the completely sold-out Blockstream corporation with major banker links and funding
* A rapidly growing community with lightning-fast adoption occuring as we speak (pun not intended)
* 15% Mining support, drawn from the exact same pool as Bitcoin miners
* The original Satoshi vision of Bitcoin which was diluted and broken by Kore incompetence and Blockstream's business model to break Layer 1

Any questions?



EDIT: Nevermind, looked at your post history. All one-line posts predicting price, usually FUDding. No mention of any technicals anywhere. So your plea for real information was not genuine.
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January 14, 2018, 10:09:05 PM
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When you have to use speculation and belief to defend a project supposed to be young, it doesnt smell good...

You all should be able to show links to explain why this is great, and what's planned in a near future

People are pretty tired of copy/pasting the huge list of arguments in favor of BCH and against BTC. Most of these idiots posting "BCASH HAHA SHITCOIN LOL JIHAN WU" are ignored by the majority of people with more than a few brain cells here...

but I'll humor you:

Bitcoin Cash has:
* 8x Larger blocksize, meaning 8x the capacity
* 5000x lower fees than BTC
* unencumbered by Segwit, which isn't used and doesn't do anything but make the code 6000 lines longer
* Replace-by-Fee removed - the most controversial and horrible feature ever introduced to BTC by Peter Todd for money on behalf of a CIA agent named "John Dillon"
* Devs who aren't compromised by the completely sold-out Blockstream corporation with major banker links and funding
* A rapidly growing community with lightning-fast adoption occuring as we speak (pun not intended)
* 15% Mining support, drawn from the exact same pool as Bitcoin miners
* The original Satoshi vision of Bitcoin which was diluted and broken by Kore incompetence and Blockstream's business model to break Layer 1

Any questions?

How many times did your parents let you fall off their hands

Over 5000x ?
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January 14, 2018, 10:12:08 PM
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When you have to use speculation and belief to defend a project supposed to be young, it doesnt smell good...

You all should be able to show links to explain why this is great, and what's planned in a near future

People are pretty tired of copy/pasting the huge list of arguments in favor of BCH and against BTC. Most of these idiots posting "BCASH HAHA SHITCOIN LOL JIHAN WU" are ignored by the majority of people with more than a few brain cells here...

but I'll humor you:

Bitcoin Cash has:
* 8x Larger blocksize, meaning 8x the capacity
* 5000x lower fees than BTC
* unencumbered by Segwit, which isn't used and doesn't do anything but make the code 6000 lines longer
* Replace-by-Fee removed - the most controversial and horrible feature ever introduced to BTC by Peter Todd for money on behalf of a CIA agent named "John Dillon"
* Devs who aren't compromised by the completely sold-out Blockstream corporation with major banker links and funding
* A rapidly growing community with lightning-fast adoption occuring as we speak (pun not intended)
* 15% Mining support, drawn from the exact same pool as Bitcoin miners
* The original Satoshi vision of Bitcoin which was diluted and broken by Kore incompetence and Blockstream's business model to break Layer 1

Any questions?

How many times did your parents let you fall off their hands

Over 5000x ?


Well fine, here you go dumbass, you can watch the fee difference in real time:
https://cashvscore.com/

Right now the Kore fees are 1938x
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January 14, 2018, 10:42:16 PM
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When you have to use speculation and belief to defend a project supposed to be young, it doesnt smell good...

You all should be able to show links to explain why this is great, and what's planned in a near future

People are pretty tired of copy/pasting the huge list of arguments in favor of BCH and against BTC. Most of these idiots posting "BCASH HAHA SHITCOIN LOL JIHAN WU" are ignored by the majority of people with more than a few brain cells here...

but I'll humor you:

Bitcoin Cash has:
* 8x Larger blocksize, meaning 8x the capacity
* 5000x lower fees than BTC
* unencumbered by Segwit, which isn't used and doesn't do anything but make the code 6000 lines longer
* Replace-by-Fee removed - the most controversial and horrible feature ever introduced to BTC by Peter Todd for money on behalf of a CIA agent named "John Dillon"
* Devs who aren't compromised by the completely sold-out Blockstream corporation with major banker links and funding
* A rapidly growing community with lightning-fast adoption occuring as we speak (pun not intended)
* 15% Mining support, drawn from the exact same pool as Bitcoin miners
* The original Satoshi vision of Bitcoin which was diluted and broken by Kore incompetence and Blockstream's business model to break Layer 1

Any questions?

How many times did your parents let you fall off their hands

Over 5000x ?


Well fine, here you go dumbass, you can watch the fee difference in real time:
https://cashvscore.com/

Right now the Kore fees are 1938x


A lot well most of bitcoin companies do transaction batching which means they bundle lots of inputs/outputs together in a single transaction so yes you will pay more with a large transaction the actual sat/B fee only needs to be 100-140sat/B for the next block BCH needs to be 2sat/B so realistically it's only 50-70x.

For me to make a single payment im looking at $3-4 at most my wallet won't even let me go over $10 for the absolute maximum highest fee top priority transaction unless I set a custom fee


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January 15, 2018, 12:16:49 AM
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When you have to use speculation and belief to defend a project supposed to be young, it doesnt smell good...

You all should be able to show links to explain why this is great, and what's planned in a near future

People are pretty tired of copy/pasting the huge list of arguments in favor of BCH and against BTC. Most of these idiots posting "BCASH HAHA SHITCOIN LOL JIHAN WU" are ignored by the majority of people with more than a few brain cells here...

but I'll humor you:

Bitcoin Cash has:
* 8x Larger blocksize, meaning 8x the capacity
* 5000x lower fees than BTC
* unencumbered by Segwit, which isn't used and doesn't do anything but make the code 6000 lines longer
* Replace-by-Fee removed - the most controversial and horrible feature ever introduced to BTC by Peter Todd for money on behalf of a CIA agent named "John Dillon"
* Devs who aren't compromised by the completely sold-out Blockstream corporation with major banker links and funding
* A rapidly growing community with lightning-fast adoption occuring as we speak (pun not intended)
* 15% Mining support, drawn from the exact same pool as Bitcoin miners
* The original Satoshi vision of Bitcoin which was diluted and broken by Kore incompetence and Blockstream's business model to break Layer 1

Any questions?

How many times did your parents let you fall off their hands

Over 5000x ?


Well fine, here you go dumbass, you can watch the fee difference in real time:
https://cashvscore.com/

Right now the Kore fees are 1938x


A lot well most of bitcoin companies do transaction batching which means they bundle lots of inputs/outputs together in a single transaction so yes you will pay more with a large transaction the actual sat/B fee only needs to be 100-140sat/B for the next block BCH needs to be 2sat/B so realistically it's only 50-70x.

For me to make a single payment im looking at $3-4 at most my wallet won't even let me go over $10 for the absolute maximum highest fee top priority transaction unless I set a custom fee




Shut up useless! You're nothing but a troll!

The only way to have tx barates is by using ONE ADDRESS, your friends from the cia and bitfury have been monitoring the network and associating those unique addresses with ip.

Oh my God, now to the anticore arguments we must add that btc is the least anonymous crypto of all.

It is very simple, to eliminate all the properties of btc to have to use second layer solutions or directly other alts owned by companies and banks.

Core is really doing a fantastic job eliminating bit by bit things from btc without ignorant people like you realize

BITCOIN CASH IS THE REAL BITCOIN, BITCOIN SEGWIT IS PAYPAL
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January 15, 2018, 12:23:37 AM
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A lot well most of bitcoin companies do transaction batching which means they bundle lots of inputs/outputs together in a single transaction so yes you will pay more with a large transaction the actual sat/B fee only needs to be 100-140sat/B for the next block BCH needs to be 2sat/B so realistically it's only 50-70x.

For me to make a single payment im looking at $3-4 at most my wallet won't even let me go over $10 for the absolute maximum highest fee top priority transaction unless I set a custom fee




haha you're just a fucking and huge troll, just comment on this thread and everything against bitcoin cash haha, you only dedicate to lie in favor of btc and against bch, haha

nor if quira you take the trouble to disguise and comment on other post haha

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1024303;sa=showPosts

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