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January 21, 2018, 01:50:58 AM
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actually ya i changed my mind after seeing Andreas Antonopolous seal of approval ~ BeeCash trying to fragment the real bitcoin is not forgivable imo :\ n00bs<===

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January 21, 2018, 01:52:21 AM
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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Cool


Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding Wink weee

will bring, soon, they are implementing,

promises, promises, promises,

in bitcoin cash the low rates are already working, and paying 2 cents already seems low enough, here you do not need paypal lightning

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January 21, 2018, 01:53:11 AM
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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Cool


Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding Wink weee

tekmobile has called his friends to help him haha

When I start to attack you and leave you without arguments, call your co-workers haha

experts agree BeeCash is not bitcoin ===>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-nKuInDq6g

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January 21, 2018, 01:53:53 AM
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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Cool


Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding Wink weee

will bring, soon, they are implementing,

promises, promises, promises,

in bitcoin cash the low rates are already working, and paying 2 cents already seems low enough, here you do not need paypal lightning


watch this and stfu  Cool haha===>

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January 21, 2018, 01:54:54 AM
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?
Keeps the segwet/lightning stuff away from from Bitcoin cash thread...and helps you teach the people that want to go segwet.

Segwit is same its wallet based you use it identical to a legacy transaction there is no difference whatsoever to a end user apart from the raw transaction output the wallet generates is segwit or legacy

Why create a whole new thread just to say use the same as before all the hardware wallets now use segwit and more and more software ones do plus segwit is now merged to the core wallet so the next release will support it natively.

As for LN then like its been said the mainnet tools are not user friendly c-lightning has some bugs (the blockstream implementation hence the warning on using on mainnet) but LND and ACINQ seem to be reliable I have never had any issues with them and there does not seem to be and massive widespread bugs reported either

Face it a lot of what's been spread were all lies and if you look at the explorers you can see LN is in fact a mesh network like I said it would be NOT a hub and spoke like what was spread.

As for a node needing high liquidity this is also false as the transaction can be split over several routes so no 1 node needs to have the amount you want to send as the payment will just take several routes

LN uses onion routing like tor so the transaction is like a parcel with many layers that you pass to someone else they take of a layer and get the next address and pass it on and so on until it reaches its destination with no hop knowing anything about where its been as this information is discarded and where it's going as its not been unwrapped

If you don't want people posting about LN here don't post lies that need correcting


Also talk about censorship that little video I posted showing just how easy is was to close a LN channel has been reported to youtube and is pending review posted onny here as I just created it but I don't care in case it was not noticed it was a new channel just for that one video not MY channel as im not stupid enough to do that  Tongue

Just goes to prove how scared you all are though as ive NEVER seen as many lies being spread over the last few days from the BCH crowd around twitter etc and its all being proved wrong



In what has taken you to write all that boredom, I sent a bitcon cash transaction and it has arrived before you finished it  Cool

was it confirmed with 3 confirmations which is usually the minimum anywhere accepts because I can assure you I could send a confirmed LN transaction in the time you typed the first word



with bitcoin cash you can send instantly with 0 confirmations  Cool

I do not know if you know what are 0 confirmations since in btc it is absolutely impossible now

You can send 0 fee yes but unless the recipient accepts 0 fee then 0 fee is useless




And if you buy a Ferrari I guess the seller would not mind waiting 10min to be confirmed



If you're buying a ferrari you won't be concerned about having to pay a $5 fee  Roll Eyes

What about in store retail

LN: quick scan thank you come again and off you go

BCH : There is seating available over there while we wait for confirmation we apologize but it's store policy  



jaja pero que mentiroso!

bch tarifa 0 confirmacion, no lo entienda si no quiere, se lo explique bastante sencillo

si compra un ferrari con btc pagara 25$ en tarifas, que supongo que no le importara, pero tardará dias en confirmarse jaja

https://blockchain.info/es/unconfirmed-transactions

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January 21, 2018, 01:57:43 AM
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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Cool


Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding Wink weee

tekmobile has called his friends to help him haha

When I start to attack you and leave you without arguments, call your co-workers haha

experts agree BeeCash is not bitcoin ===>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-nKuInDq6g

another troll co-worker of tekmobile

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January 21, 2018, 01:59:45 AM
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when more core trolls are in this forum attacking Bitcon cash quieter I remain to know that bch is doing things right

First laugh ...
Then they attack you ...
And then they lose ...

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January 21, 2018, 02:03:01 AM
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Bitcoin Cash

0 confirmations
10 minutes
0.02cent rate


bitcoin core

3-6 confirmations
30 - 60 min
$ 15 fee

But calm ray is coming  Roll Eyes

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January 21, 2018, 02:06:06 AM
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It's so funny to see so many people attacking bch in this forum

They will not see me talking about Bitcoin Cash in the bt core forum, I just do not care at all about bitcon core, I have more interesting things to do than waste my time criticizing btcore in your own forum

I would find it quite ridiculous and stupid

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January 21, 2018, 02:14:01 AM
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Bitcoin cash is very promising. The characteristics of fast speed and low fee are enough to shake the status of BTC in the future. I estimate that its price will reach 0.5BTC in 2018. Cool


Lightning Network will bring wayyy lower fees than this is antiquated version ~ BeeCash will be great again after the rebranding Wink weee

tekmobile has called his friends to help him haha

When I start to attack you and leave you without arguments, call your co-workers haha

experts agree BeeCash is not bitcoin ===>

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-nKuInDq6g

another troll co-worker of tekmobile


ummm i wanted to rally behind beecash ~ but it turns out to bee a scam Smiley sorry dude..facts are facts.

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January 21, 2018, 02:48:08 AM
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^tbh m8, i just want this discussion on a proper thread..why dont you create one?

Clearly because the purpose is to derail discussion of Bitcoin Cash. Must be a part of Adam Back's admitted paid shill force.

Actually I didn't bring it up i just started correcting mistakes then got told I should move it maybe because it shows everything that has been spread were in fact all lies
lols someone reported your video on youtube ...well it wasnt me...ive told you before, im too scared to click on your links lol and you left no info on the title of the video..ididnt even get to see it :-(  was it any good? was it action packed  Cheesy

Also im not spreading any lies...maybe is misinformation on my part...but thats blockstreams fault for not teaching/discussing or sharing info here.
Dont cry if i make a thread for lightning here since no  one else does..and it will be moderated  Grin

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https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2796241.new#new
New LN thread...please post all LN stuff here  Smiley Wink

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How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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January 21, 2018, 03:39:01 AM
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I guess Greg Maxwell is a Bitcoin Cash truther...

https://twitter.com/nullc_/status/954404957637300224
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January 21, 2018, 03:41:56 AM
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I guess Greg Maxwell is a Bitcoin Cash truther...

https://twitter.com/nullc_/status/954404957637300224
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I’m getting thousands of Q’s why I left Blockstream. The real reason which I couldn’t say while at Blockstream but I can say now is that I fully support Bitcoin Cash — Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin — I could no longer work with Adam on non-bitcoin applications anymore (LN, sidechains).

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I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 , chk theymos comment.
Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.btc is no longer what people think it was...https://www.segwetters.org/
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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January 21, 2018, 04:01:31 AM
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I guess Greg Maxwell is a Bitcoin Cash truther...

https://twitter.com/nullc_/status/954404957637300224
WTF IS THIS REALLY GREGS TWITTER?

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I’m getting thousands of Q’s why I left Blockstream. The real reason which I couldn’t say while at Blockstream but I can say now is that I fully support Bitcoin Cash — Bitcoin Cash is Bitcoin — I could no longer work with Adam on non-bitcoin applications anymore (LN, sidechains).

9:27 am - 19 Jan 2018




I don't think it is the real Greg Maxwell that recently "left" Blockstream. There is no way that Greg Maxwell would tweet pro Bitcoin cash stuff back in November.  Cheesy
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January 21, 2018, 04:13:19 AM
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yea B , i was sceptical..only because i saw lukejr real twitter recently lol.

I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 , chk theymos comment.
Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.btc is no longer what people think it was...https://www.segwetters.org/
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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January 21, 2018, 04:14:48 AM
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It seems that tekmobile is capable of piloting a space shuttle and landing on Mars (lightning), but does not know how to start the car and get it out of the garage (bch).

no one will wish to spend money on fees when they do not need to, even 5 dollars.  However the unbanked would pay the 5 extra dollars.
 even 50 just to send 50 because they are unbanked and have no friend in the world.  Good thing tek is not able to choke them from real bitcoin.  
 


If you're buying a ferrari you won't be concerned about having to pay a $5 fee  Roll Eyes

Just because someone can afford an expensive car is not a reason to saddle them with high fees on a currency!

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January 21, 2018, 04:22:20 AM
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oooooo yeaaaaaaa HERE WE GO  Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss Kiss

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January 21, 2018, 04:27:09 AM
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It seems that tekmobile is capable of piloting a space shuttle and landing on Mars (lightning), but does not know how to start the car and get it out of the garage (bch).

no one will wish to spend money on fees when they do not need to, even 5 dollars.  However the unbanked would pay the 5 extra dollars.
 even 50 just to send 50 because they are unbanked and have no friend in the world.  Good thing tek is not able to choke them from real bitcoin.  
 


If you're buying a ferrari you won't be concerned about having to pay a $5 fee  Roll Eyes

Just because someone can afford an expensive car is not a reason to saddle them with high fees on a currency!


You really think BCH miners/pools are going to be interested in processing your 2 bit fee transaction in 2024 when the reward is going to be 3.125 BCH per block?  Cheesy Especially if BCH takes off and gains mass adoption? You realize that it will cost a pretty penny to set up and maintain servers capable of processing 1 GB or more blocks. A miner can choose to include or not include any transaction based on whatever criteria they see fit. I suppose you could set up protocols to try and force miners to include all transactions. That would be really tricky if not impossible to implement, though.
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January 21, 2018, 04:44:43 AM
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Sounds sooo myspace my dear.  Sad thing though...

yes truly sad.


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https://www.coindesk.com/lightning-network-may-not-solve-bitcoins-scaling-trilemma/
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