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March 15, 2018, 03:57:03 PM
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https://coinmarketcap.com/ BTC % dominance 42.5% still increasing  Grin Grin
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March 15, 2018, 04:39:02 PM
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Bitcoin cash (BCH) is pushing higher against the greenback and could test the $1,200 mark soon, according to the technical charts.

As of writing, the world's fourth-largest cryptocurrency by market capitalization is changing hands at $1,119 - up 3 percent on a 24-hour basis, according to data source CoinMarketCap. Prices had dropped to a four-week low of $938 on Friday, tracking the broader market sell-off.

However, over the weekend, BCH moved back above the $1,000 mark, signaling a temporary low is in place at $938.

Seen at: https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-cash-price-enters-recovery-mode-4-week-low/

Nice -8,5 % typical pump and dump heavily manipulated shitcoin slowly but surely dying.

Why makes you think that? I see that only BTC slowly dying while markets are leaving BTC alone. On other side BCH is getting more adoption day by day.

Everything that's happening right now is a coordinated effort to remove Bitcoin from the throne and replace it with Bitcoin cash the one created by bankers

They made it so the stock market can bet Bitcoin futures so you now have wall street betting on BTC loses.

Bit coin cash has already made etherum lose half it's value and now it's #3

They will try to push bit coin to $3000. Only time will tell if the bankers will win again like they always do

^^^ this is what happens when you get high on your own supply folks!

Dear Digital drug whisperer,  can you please provide some evidence for your bold grandiose statements?  I notice you typed many words with no links.  I guess you would have included evidence if you had ANY to support your claims.  Silly me for asking right?  

Explain how it got on coinbase, the one exchange most people are only legally allowed to buy from so fast?

Explain Why this fork? Out of all the others forks of Bitcoin this on lands on coinbase?

I think some bankers made it and with their connections put it on coinbase. You can say that Bitcoin cash was just put in the wild and it grew to it's price today naturally but me and you know that's just a lie right?

So how is bitcoin cash NOT a bankers coin is the real question, because everything points to it being a bankers coin, or some corporation or shadow owners


BCH made it on Coinbase because they got SUED for stealing people's BCH. There were many people with billions in BTC held on Coinbase who were not going to be robbed.

Bankers have NO CLUE - they are stuck in the 16th century. The real bankster SCAM coin is RIP-off-PLE.
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March 16, 2018, 03:53:08 AM
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SGHTF round 2....imo we first going to around early nov 2017 prices...then lower.

I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 , chk theymos comment.
Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.btc is no longer what people think it was...https://www.segwetters.org/
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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March 16, 2018, 09:16:16 AM
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SGHTF round 2....imo we first going to around early nov 2017 prices...then lower.

BCH maybe going lower I agree but BTC has probably bottomed out the mtgox sell of is over now


https://medium.com/@btcWolves/bch-heading-towards-the-abyss-f1b2b9ec41f1
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March 16, 2018, 10:17:01 AM
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worth read

BCH Heading Towards the Abyss?

https://medium.com/@btcWolves/bch-heading-towards-the-abyss-f1b2b9ec41f1
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March 16, 2018, 11:57:10 AM
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I personally feel bitcoincash is far better than bitcoin and it has the potential to change bitcoin in future

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March 16, 2018, 03:10:57 PM
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If the truth is that rumors about the fact that lightning will soon be launched in this format and with such speed and capabilities, I would now sell bch and transferred to tether or bitcoin. There is a very big chance that if it all works out then many large investors will sell lowering the price.

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March 16, 2018, 04:44:20 PM
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BUY ALL THE BITCOIN CASH!!!



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March 16, 2018, 05:20:44 PM
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An analysis of Bcash lol mining economics and game theory:  the Abyss

https://medium.com/@btcWolves/bch-heading-towards-the-abyss-f1b2b9ec41f1

yeah, that was worth the full read, thanks

One Bcash wallet owned by Bitmain with a staggering 440,000 Bcash in it, that bag gets bigger everyday because nobody is buying that shitcoin. Tongue

https://bitinfocharts.com/bitcoin%20cash/address/19hZx234vNtLazfx5J2bxHsiWEmeYE8a7k-full

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March 16, 2018, 05:26:07 PM
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Bitcoin cash (BCH) is pushing higher against the greenback and could test the $1,200 mark soon, according to the technical charts.

As of writing, the world's fourth-largest cryptocurrency by market capitalization is changing hands at $1,119 - up 3 percent on a 24-hour basis, according to data source CoinMarketCap. Prices had dropped to a four-week low of $938 on Friday, tracking the broader market sell-off.

However, over the weekend, BCH moved back above the $1,000 mark, signaling a temporary low is in place at $938.

Seen at: https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-cash-price-enters-recovery-mode-4-week-low/

Nice -8,5 % typical pump and dump heavily manipulated shitcoin slowly but surely dying.

Why makes you think that? I see that only BTC slowly dying while markets are leaving BTC alone. On other side BCH is getting more adoption day by day.

Exactly. Bitcoin was killed by Blockstream antics. Bitcoin Cash is the only hope to get the original project back on track. Saying BCH is killing BTC is ridiculous. And I see no evidence that BCH is dying.
Completely agree with you, in what they are competitive? They can easily exist separately, without interfering with each other.
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March 16, 2018, 08:03:32 PM
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StealthPay gives you the possibility buy Bitcoin Cash with cash if you are registered on Bittrex.

Here are the steps to go:

1) Get a XST address on Bittrex.
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3) Exchange XST (StealthCoin) to BTC on Bittrex.
4) Buy Bitcoin Cash with BTC.

No limits. Enjoy.

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March 16, 2018, 08:22:08 PM
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Each and every coin available on the market has regular ups and downs there is certainly only BCH that requires huge leaps for no reason at all followed by several weeks of slower decline it can obvious this manipulated

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the reason why Bitcoin dying Simply because it's gradually dying and desires another unexpected emergency cash shot

   
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March 16, 2018, 11:04:07 PM
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If the truth is that rumors about the fact that lightning will soon be launched in this format and with such speed and capabilities, I would now sell bch and transferred to tether or bitcoin. There is a very big chance that if it all works out then many large investors will sell lowering the price.


Lightning , You mean the real Banker coin that has built in fractional reserve bullshit, just like the corrupt fiat system.

*Tether Scam coming to a Court room near you, rumors are they might even go after Charlie Lee for insider trading.*
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/warning-signs-timeline-tether-and-bitfinex-events/
https://medium.com/@bitfinexed/latest

Tek and the idiots have been whining that BCH was dying since it was $400 , and all they have been is wrong the entire time.  Cheesy

Feel free to sell your Real Bitcoin (Bitcoin Cash) for the Scamcoin (tether) or the segshitcoin, if your goal is to lose money.

But here is a Fact that overrides all of the naysayer's nonsense.

Chinese Miners mine segshitcoin which is $8000 and they also mine the Real Bitcoin (Bitcoin Cash) ~$1000 .
Which means they can sell a % of the segshitcoin and buy all generated real bitcoin , from nothing but a % of their segshit profits.

Meaning the Real Bitcoin (Bitcoin Cash) will never die and one day when the prices get close enough the miners will dump all of segshit and leave it in a death spiral so it is unusable, and totally move all resources to Bitcoin Cash.
That is the miners plan for all of the nitwits like tek that are too stupid to grasp it.

The sooner lightning starts locking up segshitcoin and the miners start losing transaction fees , the sooner the miners desert segshit.  Wink

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Can you explain how LN is fractual reserve ?

Every Bitcoin/Satoshi that can be spend within the lightning network must already exist within the block chain nothing can be made up it's all trustless and cryptographically proven.

Everything you have stated and said about the LN has proven to be false

Even Twitter CEO has invested a large sum of money to help finance Lighting along with a large list of others in the technology world
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March 17, 2018, 01:08:42 AM
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https://medium.com/byteball/sending-cryptocurrency-to-email-5c9bce22b8a9

Sending Cryptocurrency To Email
Even if the recipient doesn’t have a wallet yet
When PayPal started, they allowed to send money to an email address of another PayPal user. Users didn’t have to exchange any wallet numbers prior to payment. Another smart move: this worked even if the recipient was not a PayPal user yet. He was prompted to sign up and instantly take the money.

In cryptocurrencies, we are still sending payments to cryptic addresses like 1BtjAzWGLyAavUkbw3QsyzzNDKdtPXk95D or TKT4UESIKTTRALRRLWS4SENSTJX6ODCW, the recipient has to be already in the system, and we need to ask him about his address. And after a payment is sent, there is no easy way to tell who was the recipient. Not quite user friendly for mass adoption.

Now, this is going to change.

With the release of Byteball wallet version 2.0, Byteball users can send Bytes to email. Even if the recipient is not in Byteball yet.

The sender just writes an email address where he would normally write a Byteball address:


When he hits “Send”, his email app is opened with prefilled text for the recipient. The sender can edit it before sending.

The recipient receives an email like this:


He clicks the link and the money is added to his balance. If he doesn’t have a wallet yet, he is prompted to install in order to receive the money.

Simple as hell.

When PayPal was starting, email was the only wide spread method of P2P communication over the Internet. Now we have a lot more options, some of them are even more convenient, especially on mobiles.

When the sender is on a mobile phone and switches to “Share via message” tab (see the screenshot above), he is able to use all the options available through the phone’s standard “Share” menu: text message, Telegram, WhatsApp, WeChat, Signal, Viber, Slack, Facebook Messenger, Skype, etc. The recipient receives the same link, but through a chat app.


In any case, the money is delivered through text media, that’s why we call it textcoin.

On the technical part, the link which is delivered contains a BIP39 mnemonic (we use dashes instead of spaces to avoid confusion with wallet seed). Only one address, with path m/44'/0'/0'/0/0, is generated from the mnemonic, the coins are actually sent to this address. When the recipient claims the funds, his wallet restores the private key from the mnemonic (everything happens in the background and looks instantaneous), and sweeps the entire balance from this address to one of his own addresses.

Double fee has to be paid, first to fill the temporary address where the money is stored in transit, then to sweep its balance. The sender adds a small amount to cover the fees spent when sweeping. So, the amount displayed in the email or text message is the exact net amount. This is to make it clearer for the recipient, especially when he is new to crypto.

The textcoins might be delivered through insecure media, such as emails or unencrypted chats. That’s why it is recommended to use them only for small amounts or through end-to-end encrypted chats, such as Signal, WhatsApp, and iMessage.

If the sender makes a mistake in the email address or chooses a wrong recipient, the money is not lost. The sender can claim the money back using the same mnemonic. It is saved in the wallet for such occasions, and a “claim back” link is available on transaction details page.

This is like PayPal but with one important difference. The money is not kept in custody of PayPal or any other third party. The money is sent directly, from sender to recipient, peer-to-peer, in the spirit of crypto.
Each and every coin available on the market has regular ups and downs there is certainly only BCH that requires huge leaps for no reason at all followed by several weeks of slower decline it can obvious this manipulated

COPY AND PASTE, NOT MORE
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IN A BYTEBALL WALLET, YOU CAN SEND COINS TO AN EMAIL, A CRYPTOGRAPHIC ADDRESS IS NOT NEEDED
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SGHTF round 2....imo we first going to around early nov 2017 prices...then lower.

BCH maybe going lower I agree but BTC has probably bottomed out the mtgox sell of is over now



All crypto is going for a correction.
btc will go under $5k and alot lower....

Also word of advice for segwetters...becareful with ln..
 https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoins-lightning-network-problem-people-already-using/

I got red trust because i speak the truth....This thread shows why many long term users are being tagged red, ...https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2399315.msg24593043#msg24593043 , chk theymos comment.
Bitcoin cash is the real upgrade bitcoin needed, not segwit.btc is no longer what people think it was...https://www.segwetters.org/
How The Banks Bought Bitcoin  The Lightning Network - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYHFrf5ci_g&feature=youtu.be&repost= Bitcoin: A Peer-to-Peer Electronic Cash System https://bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf
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March 17, 2018, 01:20:07 AM
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SGHTF round 2....imo we first going to around early nov 2017 prices...then lower.

BCH maybe going lower I agree but BTC has probably bottomed out the mtgox sell of is over now



All crypto is going for a correction.
btc will go under $5k and alot lower....

Also word of advice for segwetters...becareful with ln..
 https://www.coindesk.com/bitcoins-lightning-network-problem-people-already-using/

I hope it won't go that low, or lots of people will lose confidence.
I believe cryptocurrency will recover before the end of this year.

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March 17, 2018, 07:30:47 AM
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SW too complicated

LN too complicated

SW + LN too complex

BCH easy and straight forward.

Adoption happens here look e.g.

https://acceptbitcoin.cash

Do your own math where this might extrapolate to.

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March 17, 2018, 11:28:20 AM
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Bitcoin Cash is the most powerful bit of bitcoin, and I believe it will cost more than half of the price of bitcoin in 1-2 years.

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March 17, 2018, 11:36:34 AM
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If the truth is that rumors about the fact that lightning will soon be launched in this format and with such speed and capabilities, I would now sell bch and transferred to tether or bitcoin. There is a very big chance that if it all works out then many large investors will sell lowering the price.


Lightning , You mean the real Banker coin that has built in fractional reserve bullshit, just like the corrupt fiat system.

*Tether Scam coming to a Court room near you, rumors are they might even go after Charlie Lee for insider trading.*
https://bitcoinmagazine.com/articles/warning-signs-timeline-tether-and-bitfinex-events/
https://medium.com/@bitfinexed/latest

Tek and the idiots have been whining that BCH was dying since it was $400 , and all they have been is wrong the entire time.  Cheesy

Feel free to sell your Real Bitcoin (Bitcoin Cash) for the Scamcoin (tether) or the segshitcoin, if your goal is to lose money.

But here is a Fact that overrides all of the naysayer's nonsense.

Chinese Miners mine segshitcoin which is $8000 and they also mine the Real Bitcoin (Bitcoin Cash) ~$1000 .
Which means they can sell a % of the segshitcoin and buy all generated real bitcoin , from nothing but a % of their segshit profits.

Meaning the Real Bitcoin (Bitcoin Cash) will never die and one day when the prices get close enough the miners will dump all of segshit and leave it in a death spiral so it is unusable, and totally move all resources to Bitcoin Cash.
That is the miners plan for all of the nitwits like tek that are too stupid to grasp it.

The sooner lightning starts locking up segshitcoin and the miners start losing transaction fees , the sooner the miners desert segshit.  Wink

Sun Tzu , Art of War
Quote
So in war, the way is to avoid what is strong and to strike at what is weak.
  Wink


Can you explain how LN is fractual reserve ?

Every Bitcoin/Satoshi that can be spend within the lightning network must already exist within the block chain nothing can be made up it's all trustless and cryptographically proven.

Everything you have stated and said about the LN has proven to be false

Even Twitter CEO has invested a large sum of money to help finance Lighting along with a large list of others in the technology world

Tek , everytime you claim Bitcoin Cash is dying , you have been proven wrong, so your judgement is suspect at best.

LN is supposed to Time Lock Bitcoin onchain and then have people trade a REPRESENTATION of that Value Offchain ie: LN .
The Same Way Banks , used to store Gold and allow people to trade their funny FIAT which was a representation of gold.

All it takes is 1 LN code update to change the 1 to 1 REPRESENTATION of Value to a 3 to 1 or 5 to 1.
Where as this can not happen with TRUE ONCHAIN ONLY BITCOINS.

If you can't understand the above, well I guess you got dumber while I was away.  Cheesy

Alot of people VC like your Twitter CEO throw money at multiple investments and they lose on 90% of those investments, they lose on LN too.

Because , you glossed over the main thing , the same miners supporting your segshitcoin also support Bitcoin Cash.
Which is why Bitcoin Cash is guaranteed to outlive segshitcoin.





You do know that there is a on-chain transaction that has to take place and this cannot be faked by adding more coins

If say you and a friend decided to "modify" the code which would need to be done on both ends you have effectively destroyed any value as it will no longer be accepted by any other node on the network and cannot be settled on chain at a later time

As for the lock time this is just a safety precaution so you can guarantee access on chain to all funds in the channel should another party try and steal from you which is why they won't as they are effectively just giving you everything

The lock time does not lock up any funds for normal operation you are free to open and close a channel at any time just by making a on-chain transaction

If anything will add more supply it will be BCH this is controlled by bitmain and even Jihan himself has said he thinks inflation is a good thing

You can bet that BCH will increase it's supply over 21m and BCH has made no gains on BTC since it's inception about 8 month ago so yes it has failed
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