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The masses decide what 'Bitcoin' is by the adoption and usage exactly how they decide what their search engine or web browser is.
With SW as a SF BTC is a fork as well and it might be the NetscapeAltavista for the masses.
It still follows the same chain though is didn't fork off you decide it is not forced on you if you don't trust or want to use segwit then you don't have to you decide by the type of address you use If you carry on using legacy addresses then you are using the exact same Bitcoin as you were several years ago nothing changed in that respect the data is still stored in the block in the exact same way as before. The only time the data structure changes is when you use a segwit enabled address which in laymens terms just moves the signature data from the transaction field to a separate merkle tree that's pretty much it Again, isnt that because it was closer to a uahf, disguised as a uasf.....in order to prevent a fork off...which led to segwet coin being called btc and retaining the ticker... As for ltc, did they need a segwit malleability fix aswell in order to use LN? |
Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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March 23, 2018, 05:25:04 AM |
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 Roger will pamp Bitcoin Cash to the moon. Just watch you muppets. |
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tekmobile
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March 23, 2018, 05:25:57 AM |
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The masses decide what 'Bitcoin' is by the adoption and usage exactly how they decide what their search engine or web browser is.
With SW as a SF BTC is a fork as well and it might be the NetscapeAltavista for the masses.
It still follows the same chain though is didn't fork off you decide it is not forced on you if you don't trust or want to use segwit then you don't have to you decide by the type of address you use If you carry on using legacy addresses then you are using the exact same Bitcoin as you were several years ago nothing changed in that respect the data is still stored in the block in the exact same way as before. The only time the data structure changes is when you use a segwit enabled address which in laymens terms just moves the signature data from the transaction field to a separate merkle tree that's pretty much it Again, isnt that because it was closer to a uahf, disguised as a uasf.....in order to prevent a fork off...which led to segwet coin being called btc and retaining the ticker... As for ltc, did they need a segwit malleability fix aswell in order to use LN? The system that was in place was for miners to signal when they was ready in order to activate a improvement this was not a issue when Bitcoin was early and spread out but since asics and large pools becoming the norm it was getting abused as any miner with over 10% could stop something even if 90% agreed UASF was just that users running a node that activated segwit without the miners so they had 2 choices come along or signal ready and activate which they did And yes litecoin needed a malleability fix and chose segwit for LN |
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March 23, 2018, 06:22:18 AM |
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Scaling is here and will come also with Moore.
That things go fine work is done e.g. here
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March 23, 2018, 06:24:37 AM |
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Worldwide BCH adoption would simply kill Segwit sooner or later. Adoption will trigger more chip companies like Samsung start building mining rigs for BCH.
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Mrpumperitis
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March 23, 2018, 07:26:27 AM |
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The masses decide what 'Bitcoin' is by the adoption and usage exactly how they decide what their search engine or web browser is.
With SW as a SF BTC is a fork as well and it might be the NetscapeAltavista for the masses.
It still follows the same chain though is didn't fork off you decide it is not forced on you if you don't trust or want to use segwit then you don't have to you decide by the type of address you use If you carry on using legacy addresses then you are using the exact same Bitcoin as you were several years ago nothing changed in that respect the data is still stored in the block in the exact same way as before. The only time the data structure changes is when you use a segwit enabled address which in laymens terms just moves the signature data from the transaction field to a separate merkle tree that's pretty much it Again, isnt that because it was closer to a uahf, disguised as a uasf.....in order to prevent a fork off...which led to segwet coin being called btc and retaining the ticker... As for ltc, did they need a segwit malleability fix aswell in order to use LN? The system that was in place was for miners to signal when they was ready in order to activate a improvement this was not a issue when Bitcoin was early and spread out but since asics and large pools becoming the norm it was getting abused as any miner with over 10% could stop something even if 90% agreed UASF was just that users running a node that activated segwit without the miners so they had 2 choices come along or signal ready and activate which they did And yes litecoin needed a malleability fix and chose segwit for LN The nodes that do nothing and cost nothing to set up out voted the miners lols The nodes activated a uahf, why do i say this....because a HF isnt forced on you...."follows the same chain though is didn't fork off you decide it is not forced on you" tek yea i thought litecoin may have had TM issues, was unsure on what cobbles had changed back in the day when making ltc....TM wasn't one of them anyways lol. |
Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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March 23, 2018, 07:27:49 AM |
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Worldwide BCH adoption would simply kill Segwit sooner or later. Adoption will trigger more chip companies like Samsung start building mining rigs for BCH.
So it's actually good news what's bad news? in terms of bitcoin this is very bad but to cover tech giants like samsung i think is very good, let alone apple willing to listen to this news. |
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March 23, 2018, 08:37:15 AM |
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The masses decide what 'Bitcoin' is by the adoption and usage exactly how they decide what their search engine or web browser is.
With SW as a SF BTC is a fork as well and it might be the NetscapeAltavista for the masses.
It still follows the same chain though is didn't fork off you decide it is not forced on you if you don't trust or want to use segwit then you don't have to you decide by the type of address you use If you carry on using legacy addresses then you are using the exact same Bitcoin as you were several years ago nothing changed in that respect the data is still stored in the block in the exact same way as before. The only time the data structure changes is when you use a segwit enabled address which in laymens terms just moves the signature data from the transaction field to a separate merkle tree that's pretty much it Again, isnt that because it was closer to a uahf, disguised as a uasf.....in order to prevent a fork off...which led to segwet coin being called btc and retaining the ticker... As for ltc, did they need a segwit malleability fix aswell in order to use LN? The system that was in place was for miners to signal when they was ready in order to activate a improvement this was not a issue when Bitcoin was early and spread out but since asics and large pools becoming the norm it was getting abused as any miner with over 10% could stop something even if 90% agreed UASF was just that users running a node that activated segwit without the miners so they had 2 choices come along or signal ready and activate which they did And yes litecoin needed a malleability fix and chose segwit for LN The nodes that do nothing and cost nothing to set up out voted the miners lols The nodes activated a uahf, why do i say this....because a HF isnt forced on you...."follows the same chain though is didn't fork off you decide it is not forced on you" tek yea i thought litecoin may have had TM issues, was unsure on what cobbles had changed back in the day when making ltc....TM wasn't one of them anyways lol. Why would litecoin have TM issues anyone can use segwit every Bitcoin fork now automatically has segwit code and litecoin didn't need lightning it wanted it to remain relevant LN makes commerce simple I purchased some steam vouchers the other day from bitrefill took me about 20 seconds from clicking buy to getting the code email and activating it |
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Mrpumperitis
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March 23, 2018, 09:05:08 AM |
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The masses decide what 'Bitcoin' is by the adoption and usage exactly how they decide what their search engine or web browser is.
With SW as a SF BTC is a fork as well and it might be the NetscapeAltavista for the masses.
It still follows the same chain though is didn't fork off you decide it is not forced on you if you don't trust or want to use segwit then you don't have to you decide by the type of address you use If you carry on using legacy addresses then you are using the exact same Bitcoin as you were several years ago nothing changed in that respect the data is still stored in the block in the exact same way as before. The only time the data structure changes is when you use a segwit enabled address which in laymens terms just moves the signature data from the transaction field to a separate merkle tree that's pretty much it Again, isnt that because it was closer to a uahf, disguised as a uasf.....in order to prevent a fork off...which led to segwet coin being called btc and retaining the ticker... As for ltc, did they need a segwit malleability fix aswell in order to use LN? The system that was in place was for miners to signal when they was ready in order to activate a improvement this was not a issue when Bitcoin was early and spread out but since asics and large pools becoming the norm it was getting abused as any miner with over 10% could stop something even if 90% agreed UASF was just that users running a node that activated segwit without the miners so they had 2 choices come along or signal ready and activate which they did And yes litecoin needed a malleability fix and chose segwit for LN The nodes that do nothing and cost nothing to set up out voted the miners lols The nodes activated a uahf, why do i say this....because a HF isnt forced on you...."follows the same chain though is didn't fork off you decide it is not forced on you" tek yea i thought litecoin may have had TM issues, was unsure on what cobbles had changed back in the day when making ltc....TM wasn't one of them anyways lol. Why would litecoin have TM issues anyone can use segwit every Bitcoin fork now automatically has segwit code and litecoin didn't need lightning it wanted it to remain relevant LN makes commerce simple I purchased some steam vouchers the other day from bitrefill took me about 20 seconds from clicking buy to getting the code email and activating it Why would litecoin have TM issues .................. "And yes litecoin needed a malleability fix" your comment above. anyone can use segwit every Bitcoin fork now automatically has segwit code .....yes it does , thats why bch is special like og btc, the only version that is segwit free (pleeeease dont start that clashit stuff lol) litecoin didn't need lightning it wanted it to remain relevant ...id say ltc and blockstream took over and killed of btc the way it was meant to be but stole the ticker. anyways forget ltc. Back to this uasf/uahf, ...so you agree it was an uahf activated by useless ,free to create nodes.  |
Technically Bitcoin is a fork and Bitcoin Cash is the original blockchain.When the hard fork occurred, people had access to the same amount of coins on Bitcoin and Bitcoin Cash.- NIST
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March 23, 2018, 09:34:19 AM |
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UASF was a nice event where we could learn how cheap it is to force things
by proof of twitter troll
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proof of sibyl node
-> this is not good for a high investing community at all
With claiming UASF as a success lots of risk sensitive members have left here
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estenity
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March 23, 2018, 09:58:02 AM |
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i would say: unrelated reference. |
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tekmobile
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March 23, 2018, 10:52:05 AM |
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The masses decide what 'Bitcoin' is by the adoption and usage exactly how they decide what their search engine or web browser is.
With SW as a SF BTC is a fork as well and it might be the NetscapeAltavista for the masses.
It still follows the same chain though is didn't fork off you decide it is not forced on you if you don't trust or want to use segwit then you don't have to you decide by the type of address you use If you carry on using legacy addresses then you are using the exact same Bitcoin as you were several years ago nothing changed in that respect the data is still stored in the block in the exact same way as before. The only time the data structure changes is when you use a segwit enabled address which in laymens terms just moves the signature data from the transaction field to a separate merkle tree that's pretty much it Again, isnt that because it was closer to a uahf, disguised as a uasf.....in order to prevent a fork off...which led to segwet coin being called btc and retaining the ticker... As for ltc, did they need a segwit malleability fix aswell in order to use LN? The system that was in place was for miners to signal when they was ready in order to activate a improvement this was not a issue when Bitcoin was early and spread out but since asics and large pools becoming the norm it was getting abused as any miner with over 10% could stop something even if 90% agreed UASF was just that users running a node that activated segwit without the miners so they had 2 choices come along or signal ready and activate which they did And yes litecoin needed a malleability fix and chose segwit for LN The nodes that do nothing and cost nothing to set up out voted the miners lols The nodes activated a uahf, why do i say this....because a HF isnt forced on you...."follows the same chain though is didn't fork off you decide it is not forced on you" tek yea i thought litecoin may have had TM issues, was unsure on what cobbles had changed back in the day when making ltc....TM wasn't one of them anyways lol. Why would litecoin have TM issues anyone can use segwit every Bitcoin fork now automatically has segwit code and litecoin didn't need lightning it wanted it to remain relevant LN makes commerce simple I purchased some steam vouchers the other day from bitrefill took me about 20 seconds from clicking buy to getting the code email and activating it Why would litecoin have TM issues .................. "And yes litecoin needed a malleability fix" your comment above. anyone can use segwit every Bitcoin fork now automatically has segwit code .....yes it does , thats why bch is special like og btc, the only version that is segwit free (pleeeease dont start that clashit stuff lol) litecoin didn't need lightning it wanted it to remain relevant ...id say ltc and blockstream took over and killed of btc the way it was meant to be but stole the ticker. anyways forget ltc. Back to this uasf/uahf, ...so you agree it was an uahf activated by useless ,free to create nodes. Segwit it nothing more than a malleability fix yes it now allows for larger blocks but that was just a side effect One of the proposed malleability fixes for BCH is very much segwit-like Segwit moves the signature out of the transaction area into a separate merkle root that allows for backwards compatibility BCH's proposed fix moves the signature from the transaction area just the same as segwit but simply moves it to the end instead of to a separate merkle tree but this means it must HF and nobody gets to choose it's forced |
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tekmobile
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March 23, 2018, 10:55:24 AM |
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And yet there is a nice site that lists loads of double spends on BCH https://doublespend.cash0-conf just is not safe under any circumstances |
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March 23, 2018, 01:19:22 PM |
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And yet there is a nice site that lists loads of double spends on BCH https://doublespend.cash0-conf just is not safe under any circumstances It's save for any coffee - you have issues with reasoning... |
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March 23, 2018, 01:20:15 PM |
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fuck BCH and BTC private
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$ADK ~ watch & learn...
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March 23, 2018, 01:58:39 PM |
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Worldwide BCH adoption would simply kill Segwit sooner or later. Adoption will trigger more chip companies like Samsung start building mining rigs for BCH.
So it's actually good news what's bad news? in terms of bitcoin this is very bad but to cover tech giants like samsung i think is very good, let alone apple willing to listen to this news. Chipmakers competition is good for the economy and end product buyers hence miners. |
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March 23, 2018, 02:56:50 PM |
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LN makes commerce simple I purchased some steam vouchers the other day from bitrefill took me about 20 seconds from clicking buy to getting the code email and activating it
Amazing. Just the way bitcoin used to work before blocks started getting persistently full. |
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March 23, 2018, 03:02:36 PM |
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i would say: unrelated reference. Indeed - link to a sketchy press release on a seeming unworkable scheme. Nothing to do with either Bitcoin Cash nor XEM -- which poster seems to think are the same thing. Adam's social media manipulation budget must be running low - looks like he can only afford bottom-tier shills any longer. |
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