BTC-e hacked ??

[bj9k]

someone said that he is an acomplish of the mtgox hack because he laundered money for the people who did it, after it happend. this is not true. he would have to be directly involved in the hack, injection something, written a code or similiar. a court would never charge him for that. and  it wasnt in the charges against him either.

if you have debitcards on sites that are linked to btc-e i advice you strongly to empty your cards immediatly.. especially if there are russians behind the sites

I have said it and you are wrong or otherwise nobody would be prosecuted for money laundering. Check E-Gold case. E-Gold owner probably wasn't even aware of particular illegal activities but was charged for money laundering and even pleaded guilty (https://www.wired.com/2008/07/e-gold-founder/).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/E-gold
"At its peak in 2006 e-gold was processing more than US$2 billion worth of spends per year.", "e-gold Ltd. was incorporated in Nevis, Saint Kitts and Nevis with operations conducted out of Florida, USA."

"However, in its actions from 2006-2008, the U.S. Treasury Department in conjunction with the United States Department of Justice stretched the definition of money transmitter in the USA Patriot Act to include any system that allows transfer of any kind of value from one person to another, not merely national currency or cash."

[fuckfbi]

money laundering yes.. hacking/theft, no.. how should a prostecutor convince a judge, that he has been hacking, or stealing money - when all he did was laundring them? in most countries that would never happend, and in the usa they actually need proofs in criminal cases

[stingray454]

I think I read that the MtGox hack was due to a vulnerability in their code.. You could double-spend coins. Something like sending from Gox wallet to your own, then aborting the transaction. MtGox thought the coins was still in the wallet and allowed you to trade with them, while you still received the funds to your local wallet. Something like that. And ofc people took advantage of it. It wasn't a backdoor or something, just a bug (and a serious one) in the code. Once it was discovered, a ton of coins on gox was already spent, making transactions out of Gox fail. Not much to do when a large portion of the coins in your wallet doesn't belong to you anymore.

So it wasn't really a "hack the server and run away with a ton of coins" from what I understand, more of a gradual siphoning over time.

[erk]

"We will hold accountable foreign-located money transmitters, including virtual currency exchangers, that do business in the United States when they willfully violate U.S. AML laws."

translation:
No matter where you are, where you're from, what you trade; we are coming for you and you will go to jail.

BS, the US don't legally classify Bitcoin as money, and that's what matters, unless they go though the motions of doing that first they can only pursue transactions that involve fiat, and other legal tender, under money laundering laws.

As for "their coming for you"
The US are still trying to extradite Kim Dotcom and Jullian Assange.

Mt Gox is a case that is going on in Japan where Mt Gox was based, not the US.

The whole US vs  BTC-e thing is an anti-Russian propaganda move, which has little to do with law enforcement.
If the countries where BTC-e are based feel their laws are being broken, they are quite capable of enforcing it themselves.

[bj9k]

BS, the US don't legally classify Bitcoin as money, and that's what matters, unless they go though the motions of doing that first they can only pursue transactions that involve fiat, and other legal tender, under money laundering laws.

From E-Gold case:

"However, in its actions from 2006-2008, the U.S. Treasury Department in conjunction with the United States Department of Justice stretched the definition of money transmitter in the USA Patriot Act to include any system that allows transfer of any kind of value from one person to another, not merely national currency or cash."

And that was 10 years ago so imagine what they consider under definition of money transmitter today. Maybe even wearing clothes would fall under that stretched definition or money transmitting

[miner16]

Reading through the PDF on the GOV Website, which was originally written 01/17/2017

This details which Specific BTC-e accounts Alex allegedly used and of which some had admin statuses etc. How do they have this kind of information without the server and backend of BTC-e?

The laundering charges are from 2012 and the rest they are clutching at straws...The site must be used mainly by criminals because some of the Users have Hack in their usernames?

[throwawayme3434534554]

Reading through the PDF on the GOV Website, which was originally written 01/17/2017

This details which Specific BTC-e accounts Alex allegedly used and of which some had admin statuses etc. How do they have this kind of information without the server and backend of BTC-e?

The laundering charges are from 2012 and the rest they are clutching at straws...The site must be used mainly by criminals because some of the Users have Hack in their usernames?

the btce database was hacked ages ago

[miner16]

O the whole thing including transactions etc ?

I thought it was just username list, but if whole site database was leaked then guess they got their filthy hands on it.

must have been able to see transactions on it to tie accounts with bankwires

[Potent]

I don't think he has got any connection to BTC-e. Simultaneity two events made this rumor bold. Seems mtGOX's hacker is found finally but he has not any relation with BTE-e

https://www.cryptocoinsnews.com/alleged-btc-e-admin-arrested-for-laundering-4-billion-in-bitcoin/


Although details on the man’s alleged operation are still scarce, a Greek police official pointed out that the man was accused of running a platform that converted proceeds of online ransoms, identity theft, tax violations, and more into bitcoin.

[throwawayme3434534554]

O the whole thing including transactions etc ?

I thought it was just username list, but if whole site database was leaked then guess they got their filthy hands on it.

must have been able to see transactions on it to tie accounts with bankwires

lots of emails and ip addresses, no transactions in the public leaks, but who knows what was really obtained though

[erk]

BS, the US don't legally classify Bitcoin as money, and that's what matters, unless they go though the motions of doing that first they can only pursue transactions that involve fiat, and other legal tender, under money laundering laws.

From E-Gold case:

"However, in its actions from 2006-2008, the U.S. Treasury Department in conjunction with the United States Department of Justice stretched the definition of money transmitter in the USA Patriot Act to include any system that allows transfer of any kind of value from one person to another, not merely national currency or cash."

And that was 10 years ago so imagine what they consider under definition of money transmitter today. Maybe even wearing clothes would fall under that stretched definition or money transmitting

The charges are not under the USA Patriot Act, they are under statutes ranging from 1956 to 1960 if you read the U.S. Attorney’s Office press release. There is no mention of charges under the Patriot Act whatsoever.

The US government can stretch the definition of whatever they like in their country, and the sheeple will do little. Doesn't mean other countries will abide.

[jestronix]

Whats more of a crime is the reach of the US.  The Rothchilds are finally kicking into stage 2!  BTC wipeout , slow strangulation, makes sense BTC biggest threat they have ever seen.  Revolutions in the past kicked off with far less wealth control and imbalance than now.  Amazing to see the true power and reach these chosen few have.  back to my day job and my debt.

[bvall]

Man, I got really pissed at btc-e for banning me from the trollbox a few days ago so I withdrew all my money from there..

So yeah, a big thank you to the btc-e admin team.

By the way, is there any link between btc-e and BTCex? https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/BTCex

Karpeles seemed to have trouble with them back in 2011 https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=6931.0

Well i got burned a bit. Wish they had banned me from that chat 
Ps. You still owe me a copy of your book 

obligatory "ouch"

seriously though, can't mod just throw up the troll box with a btc address under it? Ill send .5 btc to chat with yall

[erk]

Whats more of a crime is the reach of the US.  The Rothchilds are finally kicking into stage 2!  BTC wipeout , slow strangulation, makes sense BTC biggest threat they have ever seen.  Revolutions in the past kicked off with far less wealth control and imbalance than now.  Amazing to see the true power and reach these chosen few have.  back to my day job and my debt.

Nah, the Rothchilds would print their own crypto for free and try to make everyone use it, like XRP or some of these ICO tokens.

If they didn't want crypto, they would pressure governments to ban it, though, the technique would be to first have a huge media campaign to make it look like only criminals need crypto, mentioning Russian criminals often in the campaign would help a lot.

[Teal Deer]

Are the arrest of Alexander, the upcoming highly anticipated fork and the shutting down of btc-e.com 3 coinciding events? It's hard to distinguish what all the cause and effects are.

Is it a coincidence that the extended "downtime" of btc-e will fall on August 1st? Are they possibly mitigating against everyone pouring out of the exchange and into offline wallets in preparation for the event?

And in relation to people saying things such as "why would they bother Tweeting and keeping in contact with customers if they plan on making a run for it", wouldn't it make sense to keep everyone calm for as long as possible to avoid being hunted down whilst preparing for an exit?

I sincerely hope you're right and that they are indeed planning on returning. It just boggles the mind as to why their contact is so vague and few and far between. A P.R intern with severe a motivation deficit could do a better job than they are currently. I suppose they're either going with a "less is more" strategy, or it is indeed something far more sinister. Let's hope not.

[jojo69]

they did say they needed a couple days to get drunk

[Teal Deer]

Not exactly comforting words coming from people holding billions of dollars owed to 10,000's of people.

[pynetx]

My funds are also stuck or burned with btc-e .
They said they are maintaining but, now their page shows Error 525, CloudFlare error.
Not sure what's going on.

[erk]

My funds are also stuck or burned with btc-e .
They said they are maintaining but, now their page shows Error 525, CloudFlare error.
Not sure what's going on.

It just alternates between the messages every now and then when you refresh.
Might be doing a round robin between a couple of backend server IPs, only one of which has the message.

[soma_haoma]

they did say they needed a couple days to get drunk

This was quite an erroneous translation.

The mod said

3 дня yпepeтьcя и ycpaтьcя

which having NOT been distilled from meaty russian idiomatics has the meaning of

3 days at least if we push so hard that we shit ourselves.