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August 07, 2017, 08:25:52 AM
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Stop dreaming. BTC-e aint ever coming back.
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August 07, 2017, 08:34:02 AM
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Stop dreaming. BTC-e aint ever coming back.

I think they have proven that they aren't pieces of junk already, unlike some people around here.

They ARE coming back and you can return to the hole you crawled out from one that happens. We will see by the end of month.
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August 07, 2017, 08:40:43 AM
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Dont understand why people can spread this FUD against innocent people that have lost their money.

We should not be this towards each other, rather stick together and believe that you will earn back your hard work money.

The internet is full of fudders, so this shouldn't really come as a surprise. People right now make fun of others making use of unlicensed exchanges, but when the same people make use of licensed exchanges, the same fudders will then blame them for making use of centralized exchanges and whatever else. It doesn't really matter what happens, they will always find something to start spreading fud, make others look bad, etc. Ignore button is your friend. Smiley

I try to remember that for those engaging in schadenfreude, their lives are probably pathetic and sad. If the idea of someone losing their life savings brings a smile to your face, you must be a very unhappy person. Sure, holding one's life savings on a bitcoin exchange (especially one not backed by tight legal compliance and endless VC money) is a risk not worth taking. Spreading around the risk (at least) is sensible.

All exchanges are a risk. Unfortunately, BTC-E's API and trade engine were superior to all others. Metatrader and PAMM, and association with major brokers (FXOpen, Avatrade, Plus500, etc) also set them apart from other exchanges. Many investors, traders, miners and brokers -- large and small -- got caught up in the BTC-E seizure.

a real investor would never use a crap like BTC-e (an unregulated anoymous exchanger from Russia) only if has something to hide, to avoid(like taxes), etc .

those who "play" their  life savings, are really STUPIDS. how can you put all your money in an exchanger? it's like you go to a casino with your life savings and you expect to earn.
that means you are an idiot Smiley

it's not FUD.  

 I warned for so many times agaist BTC-e and similar others. All these exchangers(unregulated ones) will be closed soon. it's a fact not FUD.  I smile because i see MANY sheep around. Smiley

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August 07, 2017, 08:46:57 AM
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How pathetic life you must have to find joy in someone's loss, no matter what kind of exchange it was.

Go outside of you mom's basement, enjoy life, it's very short  Smiley
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August 07, 2017, 08:53:40 AM
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How pathetic life you must have to find joy in someone's loss, no matter what kind of exchange it was.

Go outside of you mom's basement, enjoy life, it's very short  Smiley

little sheep, I don't find joy, I only smile. It's just a choice.

you choose to be stupid, I choose to smile. Smiley
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August 07, 2017, 09:57:36 AM
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aawww, I guess your boyfriend left you, and now you hate life, sorry  Angry

On a serious note, we have 3 options,

-they will just go silent and everything is lost
-refund or partial refund
-resuming of btc-e life, somehow

So it's a 66% chance  Cool

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August 07, 2017, 10:25:19 AM
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-they will just go silent and everything is lost
I believe that this is the most likely one as it costs zero effort, and they end up with millions in tainted coin funds as bonus. It doesn't matter what they do at this point, they are already being painted off as criminals, so what exactly will change for them in that regard? Nothing.

-refund or partial refund
I can't see them fully refunding everything since we don't know if the servers their hot wallets operate from are compromised by the US government. If you hope for at least any sort of refund, the hope should be pointed at what's sitting in their cold wallets. But then again, we still don't know what BTC-E is going to do with these funds.

-resuming of btc-e life, somehow
That's practically impossible. If they happen to do so, it won't take much time for the US government to chase them down, where after that we'll run into the same drama again. But even if they do end up returning, only a total idiot will make use of an exchange being operated by the same BTC-E staff.

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August 07, 2017, 10:33:06 AM
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That's practically impossible. If they happen to do so, it won't take much time for the US government to chase them down, where after that we'll run into the same drama again. But even if they do end up returning, only a total idiot will make use of an exchange being operated by the same BTC-E staff.

You are so westernized in your thoughts, its really getting awkward. Impossible because the big mighty USA put a picture on a domain? Many countries and individuals give a shit about USA and only because USA says everything is illegal, it doesn't mean it is. If they open up again, I bet 90% of the Russians will use them again. Why USA is imposing sanctions against Russia and Russia isn't bending over?
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August 07, 2017, 10:40:02 AM
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-they will just go silent and everything is lost
I believe that this is the most likely one as it costs zero effort, and they end up with millions in tainted coin funds as bonus. It doesn't matter what they do at this point, they are already being painted off as criminals, so what exactly will change for them in that regard? Nothing.

But well, you understand that we are over this stage already? They did not go silent, you noticed that, right? So, the idea of "btce is stealing the same way like the FBI, then go silent and hide" can be dismissed already.
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August 07, 2017, 02:50:14 PM
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That's practically impossible. If they happen to do so, it won't take much time for the US government to chase them down, where after that we'll run into the same drama again. But even if they do end up returning, only a total idiot will make use of an exchange being operated by the same BTC-E staff.

You are so westernized in your thoughts, its really getting awkward. Impossible because the big mighty USA put a picture on a domain? Many countries and individuals give a shit about USA and only because USA says everything is illegal, it doesn't mean it is. If they open up again, I bet 90% of the Russians will use them again. Why USA is imposing sanctions against Russia and Russia isn't bending over?

This is not about the ways or styles of thinking

If we are to remain honest, we should accept the fact that the US is effectively controlling the monetary and, more broadly, financial flows around the world (at least, the better part of them). At a time, the train of events got close to cutting Russia itself from the SWIFT international payment system. Right now Russia tries to get itself out of these ties and break away with the payment systems controlled by Uncle Sam. In fact, it is not about using Btc-e again if (when) it restarts (most people will be happy to use it again anyway) but rather how useful it will ever be. As I see it, they could only restart (in any meaningful way) as a cryptocurrency only exchange with no fiat deposits and withdrawals (like Bitfinex had been cut off of the fiat transfer channels in April)
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August 07, 2017, 03:21:01 PM
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Even if btc-e decides to return crypto coins to their rightful owners, how can we use these coins? Everyone will stay away from dealing with them to avoid the US prosecution.
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August 07, 2017, 04:07:18 PM
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Even if btc-e decides to return crypto coins to their rightful owners, how can we use these coins? Everyone will stay away from dealing with them to avoid the US prosecution

I don't quite understand your point

Do you mean to say that we won't be able to send these coins to an exchange (say, to Bitfinex) since they will be sort of tainted? It might make some sense in respect to "regulated" exchanges like Poloniex, though that would mean that the FBI will be giving them the lists of black-listed wallets the coins from which should get confiscated at the earliest opportunity. But what about other exchanges which themselves might be in the crosshair of the FBI? What about mixing these coins via independent and reliable mixers?
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August 07, 2017, 04:14:01 PM
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aawww, I guess your boyfriend left you, and now you hate life, sorry  Angry

On a serious note, we have 3 options,

-they will just go silent and everything is lost
-refund or partial refund
-resuming of btc-e life, somehow

So it's a 66% chance  Cool



You don't expect btc-e to go back, it is too much damage. No one exchanges is not come back after situations like this.
good things is they say that have database with wallets and accounts, i hope they will get back coins to customers.

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August 07, 2017, 05:12:21 PM
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we should accept the fact that the US is effectively controlling the monetary flows around the world

for now

the empire is faltering, we are entering a period fraught with danger...and opportunity

This is not some pseudoeconomic post-modern Libertarian cult, it's an un-led, crowd-sourced mega startup organized around mutual self-interest where problems, whether of the theoretical or purely practical variety, are treated as temporary and, ultimately, solvable.
Censorship of e-gold was easy. Censorship of Bitcoin will be… entertaining.
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August 07, 2017, 06:18:52 PM
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Stop dreaming. BTC-e aint ever coming back.

I think they have proven that they aren't pieces of junk already, unlike some people around here.

They ARE coming back and you can return to the hole you crawled out from one that happens. We will see by the end of month.

What is going to happen at the end of the month?

People who enjoy laughing at the loses are indeed bad but giving hope with no proof no reason nothing is just as bad in my opinion.
So, what will happen, what have they and how have they proven they are not pieces of ... let's say junk as I would have used another word.


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August 07, 2017, 06:33:32 PM
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What is going to happen at the end of the month?

People who enjoy laughing at the loses are indeed bad but giving hope with no proof no reason nothing is just as bad in my opinion.
So, what will happen, what have they and how have they proven they are not pieces of ... let's say junk as I would have used another word.


What do you mean, no proof, no reason, nothing? So you mean the official statements of btce, which we trusted for 6 years, mean nothing? Are you fucking serious?

You understand that we are over this stage already? They did not go silent, you noticed that, right? So, the idea of "btce is stealing the same way like the FBI, then go silent and hide" can be dismissed already.
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August 07, 2017, 07:23:00 PM
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Official statement? That is your hope right now?
The official statement that claims ...

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1.   Mы cмoгли пoлyчить дocтyп к нaшим бaзaм дaнныx и кoшeлькaм, нa дaнный мoмeнт мы пpoвoдим oцeнкy дaнныx и бaлaнcoв пo кoинaм, этa инфopмaция бyдeт oбнapoдoвaнa дo кoнцa cлeдyющeй нeдeли.

No, I don't trust a word of people who contradict themselves in barely 10 lines of text.

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August 07, 2017, 08:42:07 PM
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How pathetic life you must have to find joy in someone's loss, no matter what kind of exchange it was.

Go outside of you mom's basement, enjoy life, it's very short  Smiley

little sheep, I don't find joy, I only smile. It's just a choice.

you choose to be stupid, I choose to smile. Smiley

this is exactly what the poster above meant by "schadenfreude." you spend your time and energy repeating ad nauseam that everyone here is stupid and deserving of their misfortunes. and you admit that this brings a smile to your face.

maybe those who lose money to exchange takedowns and exit scams do deserve their misfortunes. but what good does it bring you---or anyone else---to waste away your life taking pleasure from this? why not go do something productive with your life? that's what traders on btc-e were doing, and now these traders need to rebuild. can't you find something better to do?

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August 07, 2017, 09:20:31 PM
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If we are to remain honest, we should accept the fact that the US is effectively controlling the monetary and, more broadly, financial flows around the world (at least, the better part of them). At a time, the train of events got close to cutting Russia itself from the SWIFT international payment system. Right now Russia tries to get itself out of these ties and break away with the payment systems controlled by Uncle Sam. In fact, it is not about using Btc-e again if (when) it restarts (most people will be happy to use it again anyway) but rather how useful it will ever be. As I see it, they could only restart (in any meaningful way) as a cryptocurrency only exchange with no fiat deposits and withdrawals (like Bitfinex had been cut off of the fiat transfer channels in April)

What you are describing is the US sliding into Tyranny, look at the Stasi style law enforcement ignoring international boundaries, and you can see the 1930's all over again. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".
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August 07, 2017, 09:25:59 PM
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If we are to remain honest, we should accept the fact that the US is effectively controlling the monetary and, more broadly, financial flows around the world (at least, the better part of them). At a time, the train of events got close to cutting Russia itself from the SWIFT international payment system. Right now Russia tries to get itself out of these ties and break away with the payment systems controlled by Uncle Sam. In fact, it is not about using Btc-e again if (when) it restarts (most people will be happy to use it again anyway) but rather how useful it will ever be. As I see it, they could only restart (in any meaningful way) as a cryptocurrency only exchange with no fiat deposits and withdrawals (like Bitfinex had been cut off of the fiat transfer channels in April)

What you are describing is the US sliding into Tyranny, look at the Stasi style law enforcement ignoring international boundaries, and you can see the 1930's all over again. "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it".

yes, keep using shit(unregulated) exchangers and the history will repeat. you will lose the funds.  Wink
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