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Another reason Shiba is currently in the top 12 based on the highest trading volume of the CoinmarketCap version which means Shiba has a high level of trust This time Stake prepared it perfectly we can use Shiba with 2 networks Ethereum and BSC so there is no reason to complain about transaction fee.
It's not the only coin with two blockchains available on Stake. They are also offering this option for Ether, Link, BUSD and Uni. And now they are even offering a third network (Polygon) for some stable coins : USDT, USDC and DAI along with Matic recently added. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2FDQ2BRrb%2Fimage.png&t=665&c=N38fABtfM8449w)
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But the fee transaction is still same. I don't know why, but "Stake" should make the fee withdraw is different based the chain-network we're using. Example for USDT, "Polygon" network is more cheaper rather than (ETH/BSC) but the fee withdraw still 5$. We all know, polygon transaction is under 5 cent. I still not using stable coin due the high fee, "TRX" still my favorite alt-coin with only 7 cent fee.
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August 25, 2022, 08:25:55 PM |
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But the fee transaction is still same. I don't know why, but "Stake" should make the fee withdraw is different based the chain-network we're using. Example for USDT, "Polygon" network is more cheaper rather than (ETH/BSC) but the fee withdraw still 5$. We all know, polygon transaction is under 5 cent. I still not using stable coin due the high fee, "TRX" still my favorite alt-coin with only 7 cent fee. You're right the withdrawal fee doesn't seem to change with the network and stay at the value of the most expensive network (Ethereum). So I don't understand the point for users to choose BSC or Polygon instead of Ethereum blockchain in this case, except to give free money to Stake. It doesn't look very fair and honest for customers. Moreover I don't understand why they are already offering Polygon but not BTC Lightning Network yet.
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August 25, 2022, 08:43:43 PM |
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Many people didn't understand my point and thats fine, neither should you or me could change anything so its not about us and we do not need to know. But to respond a few;
1- Yeah it is a shady one because the project itself may look good, and could make you money, but it is also there so that the owners could make some money as well. Owners are quite greedy.
2- It does give them credibility because stake is huge and amazing and so awesome that it is beyond bonkers to think that anything I ever do would get some shout like stake just did for shiba, stake is unreal in this market.
These are of course things that I consider, these are not real facts that are backed by data, these are "thoughts" that I have and I could very well be wrong and maybe it is a good idea. Like I said earlier, Stake knows what they are doing, they always did.
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August 25, 2022, 09:44:20 PM |
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But the fee transaction is still same. I don't know why, but "Stake" should make the fee withdraw is different based the chain-network we're using. Example for USDT, "Polygon" network is more cheaper rather than (ETH/BSC) but the fee withdraw still 5$. We all know, polygon transaction is under 5 cent. I still not using stable coin due the high fee, "TRX" still my favorite alt-coin with only 7 cent fee. You're right the withdrawal fee doesn't seem to change with the network and stay at the value of the most expensive network (Ethereum). So I don't understand the point for users to choose BSC or Polygon instead of Ethereum blockchain in this case, except to give free money to Stake. It doesn't look very fair and honest for customers. Moreover I don't understand why they are already offering Polygon but not BTC Lightning Network yet. The other Casino also charges $5 on USDT withdrawal no matter what the network used for withdrawing is. It looks like it is a norm in some casinos. I tried withdrawing from other Casino using the TRC20 network and they still charge $5 as a fee. If you are wondering about them not offering BTC Lightning Network, I am also buffled why they don't have an option for USDT to be withdrawn in the TRC20 network.
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August 25, 2022, 09:54:43 PM |
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The other Casino also charges $5 on USDT withdrawal no matter what the network used for withdrawing is. It looks like it is a norm in some casinos. I tried withdrawing from other Casino using the TRC20 network and they still charge $5 as a fee. If you are wondering about them not offering BTC Lightning Network, I am also buffled why they don't have an option for USDT to be withdrawn in the TRC20 network.
Maybe every casino has set a $5 fee norm for all withdrawal chains so the USDT withdrawal fee is higher than the exchange platform, every USDT withdrawal is very familiar for TRC20 network options because of the confirmation speed factor of each transaction, so the TRC20 network should be provided for USDT withdrawals.
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August 25, 2022, 10:14:01 PM |
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But the fee transaction is still same. I don't know why, but "Stake" should make the fee withdraw is different based the chain-network we're using. Example for USDT, "Polygon" network is more cheaper rather than (ETH/BSC) but the fee withdraw still 5$. We all know, polygon transaction is under 5 cent. I still not using stable coin due the high fee, "TRX" still my favorite alt-coin with only 7 cent fee. Unlike the fee provided by the network, there is a standard value being fixed as the withdrawal fee from stake. This looks high, same time even if the network fee increase above $5 Stake would charge the same. This is what I got to know earlier when the same discussion about the fee took place.
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August 26, 2022, 07:45:19 AM |
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But the fee transaction is still same. I don't know why, but "Stake" should make the fee withdraw is different based the chain-network we're using. Example for USDT, "Polygon" network is more cheaper rather than (ETH/BSC) but the fee withdraw still 5$. We all know, polygon transaction is under 5 cent. I still not using stable coin due the high fee, "TRX" still my favorite alt-coin with only 7 cent fee. Oh really? But yeah they must follow what you said there as it doesn't make sense to put those options if the fees are still going to be the same but maybe there is only a difference in terms of speed? And maybe they put that so that users can choose a chain that is less congested because sometimes binance and matic can get heavily traffic too not just the eth coin. Speaking of coin, I noticed that stake casino have added so many coins on their platform lately. That was great. Now we have more choices and there is no need for us to use their converter only to convert coins as that can be a hassle and can charge us an extra fee.
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Stake.com, stake.us and primedice...I would want to know the relationship between primedice, an affiliation, partnership or same company.
Most likely they're under the same company similar to how other casinos have different gambling sites and they'd also mention other related casinos since we see Primedice linked on the bottom of Stake's homepage. As thought as much, most likely they are under same company, then it could be that stake is the parent company because it is the one that receives the highest promotion in this forum and even outside the forum. I know companies that are under another but still a separate legal entity. It could be how it is between stake and primedice.
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The other Casino also charges $5 on USDT withdrawal no matter what the network used for withdrawing is. It looks like it is a norm in some casinos. I tried withdrawing from other Casino using the TRC20 network and they still charge $5 as a fee. If you are wondering about them not offering BTC Lightning Network, I am also buffled why they don't have an option for USDT to be withdrawn in the TRC20 network.
Which other casinos are you talking about precisely? Because at sportsbet, bitcasino and livecasino USDT withdrawals are available on ERC20(Ethereum) and TRC20(Tron), and they are totally free ($0.00) like withdrawals of any other cryptocurrencies. So thankfully I don't think it's a norm at all among casinos, people wouldn't use them anymore if they were thieved with fees like that for each withdrawal. Maybe every casino has set a $5 fee norm for all withdrawal chains so the USDT withdrawal fee is higher than the exchange platform, every USDT withdrawal is very familiar for TRC20 network options because of the confirmation speed factor of each transaction, so the TRC20 network should be provided for USDT withdrawals.
Where have you seen that bro? How much it is at the casino you are promoting (BK8) precisely? AFAIK USDT withdrawals are also free there, so I don't understand how you can say that $5 is a common fee among all casinos, the norm is rather offering withdrawals instead.
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August 26, 2022, 09:29:16 AM |
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The other Casino also charges $5 on USDT withdrawal no matter what the network used for withdrawing is. It looks like it is a norm in some casinos. I tried withdrawing from other Casino using the TRC20 network and they still charge $5 as a fee. If you are wondering about them not offering BTC Lightning Network, I am also buffled why they don't have an option for USDT to be withdrawn in the TRC20 network.
Which other casinos are you talking about precisely? Because at sportsbet, bitcasino and livecasino USDT withdrawals are available on ERC20(Ethereum) and TRC20(Tron), and they are totally free ($0.00) like withdrawals of any other cryptocurrencies. So thankfully I don't think it's a norm at all among casinos, people wouldn't use them anymore if they were thieved with fees like that at each withdrawal. Yeah. So far I didn’t encounter a casino that charge 5$ on USDT using TRC20 network because they are worst than CEX that charge a 1$ flat rate which we all know that the most expensive fee already for TRC20 network. Maybe this is just a confusion for an ERC20 USDT withdrawal because I’m playing on most of the reputable casino in the forum and none of them charge like 5$ on a USDT withdrawal even using Bitcoin.
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The other Casino also charges $5 on USDT withdrawal no matter what the network used for withdrawing is. It looks like it is a norm in some casinos. I tried withdrawing from other Casino using the TRC20 network and they still charge $5 as a fee. If you are wondering about them not offering BTC Lightning Network, I am also buffled why they don't have an option for USDT to be withdrawn in the TRC20 network.
Which other casinos are you talking about precisely? Because at sportsbet, bitcasino and livecasino USDT withdrawals are available on ERC20(Ethereum) and TRC20(Tron), and they are totally free ($0.00) like withdrawals of any other cryptocurrencies. So thankfully I don't think it's a norm at all among casinos, people wouldn't use them anymore if they were thieved with fees like that at each withdrawal. I do not really use USDT (both erc20 and trc20) for gambling but as long as I know there is no other site charges $5 for USDT withdrawal using trc20. Trc20 is known to be one of the cheapest in terms of transaction fee so it is not normal to have $5 fee for trc20 withdrawal. On the other side, gas fee for erc20 tx is no longer expensive now. Charging $5 for erc20 withdrawal can be considered as expensive fee. Stake's eth withdrawal fee is under $1 so I think the fee for USDT erc20 can be as low as ETH.
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BTC Lightning? It's all about the efficiency, yes using Lightning Network you have a small fee but not all the user can using/set up a node for Lightning Network transaction. In casino/exchange, not most people are " Bitcoin Enthusiasm Geek" what they want easy & cheap transactions. So think, they have option to transaction with "alt-coin" with cheap fee & while you need just do a few small things. - Created a wallet - Copy-pastet address - Send. Now, comparing to "Lightning Network" you need to do a few steps first like set up a node and other think. Off course, they're gonna to use a transaction with a simple setup & cheap transaction. Also Lightning Network have limited amount of money you can send to a maximum of 0.1677 BTC, not really ideal for a large transaction.
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For those who didn't check the announcement of Stake, USDT [ETH - Ethereum (ERC20) | BSC - BNB Smart Chain (BEP20)] and BNB is now available for deposit and withdraw. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.ibb.co%2Fct9x7wb%2Fy8.png&t=665&c=5i3VGD1_8vSIOA)
I'm hinting that they will add ApeCoin (APE) and Shiba Inu (SHIB) in the near year future. What's your top contender coin/s that they will add soon in their deposit & withdrawal option? Awesome my hint was correct they added Ape Coin and Shiba Inu. I'm holding a small amount of Shiba Inu, I would like to try my luck using it for the sports bet. I didn't know Stake added these following coins; APE | BUSD | CRO | DAI | LINK | SAND | SHIB | UNI I predict Stake will added these coins; XTZ (Tezox), MANA (Decentraland), Waves (WAVES), NEM (XEM), 1inchh Network (1INCH), Trust Wallet Token (TWT), or other Stable Coins
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August 26, 2022, 05:09:16 PM |
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BTC Lightning? It's all about the efficiency, yes using Lightning Network you have a small fee but not all the user can using/set up a node for Lightning Network transaction. In casino/exchange, not most people are " Bitcoin Enthusiasm Geek" what they want easy & cheap transactions. So think, they have option to transaction with "alt-coin" with cheap fee & while you need just do a few small things. - Created a wallet - Copy-pastet address - Send. Now, comparing to "Lightning Network" you need to do a few steps first like set up a node and other think. Off course, they're gonna to use a transaction with a simple setup & cheap transaction. Also Lightning Network have limited amount of money you can send to a maximum of 0.1677 BTC, not really ideal for a large transaction. True as a lazy person, I don't want to do difficult stuff when I have an alternative that is probably more efficient than setting up a bitcoin lightning network that is already available on stake as an option for withdrawal and deposit. So I think the idea of using the BTC lightning network is just to go with the current what is hot or what is trending. Though I admit it is a good thing to know how to setup Bitcoin lightning network because it will come in handy when the practice becomes popular.
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Awesome my hint was correct they added Ape Coin and Shiba Inu. I'm holding a small amount of Shiba Inu, I would like to try my luck using it for the sports bet.
I didn't know Stake added these following coins; APE | BUSD | CRO | DAI | LINK | SAND | SHIB | UNI
I predict Stake will added these coins; XTZ (Tezox), MANA (Decentraland), Waves (WAVES), NEM (XEM), 1inchh Network (1INCH), Trust Wallet Token (TWT), or other Stable Coins
What is certain is that every coin added is generally in the top 100 because more trusted, from some of the coins you mentioned, I am sure it will be added except NEM Now it is clear that the purpose of Stake adds a few new coins to attract more customers/users I was not surprised when stake managed to get thousands of new customers
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ryzaadit
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August 26, 2022, 05:51:21 PM |
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I don't really think so. IMO most of the current coin is an-average coins being listed on the casino, I guess they only listed the most regular coins listed on all casino. So, If user want to moving from one casino to other casinos. They no need to go in exchange first, since you can make a direct transaction between the casino. Remember, add a coins need a few years in "Stake" ~XD.
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BitcoinHunt3r
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August 26, 2022, 06:24:42 PM |
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I don't really think so. IMO most of the current coin is an-average coins being listed on the casino, I guess they only listed the most regular coins listed on all casino. So, If user want to moving from one casino to other casinos. They no need to go in exchange first, since you can make a direct transaction between the casino. Remember, add a coins need a few years in "Stake" ~XD. If you talk about casino that is not famous it is true, even they add high risk coins but this is Stake they must consider something Casinos with a low reputation is impossible to compete with stake, therefore they prefer to attract players from the coins community I can see stake using the same method this means stake is one step ahead of other famous casinos.
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August 26, 2022, 09:51:42 PM |
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Ape? Really? Like I get that the talk was about shiba, but APE? This is getting out of hand. Stake is just letting the memes takeover at this point. I am not going to care though, as long as they are as equal to us as possible then why would I care? They are getting the same thing and not something more.
I at least understand the idea of shiba because betting a million of something must feel good, I am sure even 1 billion of it must be quite low compared to what some people play, I have seen over a million dollar worth bets here and there and that is why I honestly believe that the best thing we could do right now would be making sure that life goes on without trouble.
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