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October 02, 2024, 03:23:13 PM |
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Everyone talking about "KYC"
I also got these "emails", with the bonus amount 250$. I guess it's time say goodbye for "non-KYC user, these one mandatory before 1st January 2025. Could be these bonus only for user with still have wagering a couple months/weeks + depending on the VIP rank as well.
Lucky you still playing in Stake without being tempted to do KYC for double reward on tournament in Stake forum. I voluntarily completed my level 2 KYC last due to double rewards offer of Stake. That 250$ bonus for KYC is really worth it since most of the casino ask KYC already promptly right after few withdrawals. Some even ask kyc verification immediately after registration, a good example is Bitcasino, I signed up on this casino through a friend's recommendation of one particular game he asked me to play there, after signing up, I discovered I can't deposit or do anything else until I am kyc verified, and not like the passing the kyc verification come with any bonus. So, it is actually very commendable to see that Stake have incentivised their kyc system, rewarding users up to $250 for simply submitting and passing kyc verification. I also have completed kyc level one and two, this was a very long time ago though, like in 2021 if I still remember well. I am curious to know if the bonus is available to everyone or to a selected few.?
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October 02, 2024, 04:20:00 PM |
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Some even ask kyc verification immediately after registration, a good example is Bitcasino, I signed up on this casino through a friend's recommendation of one particular game he asked me to play there, after signing up, I discovered I can't deposit or do anything else until I am kyc verified, and not like the passing the kyc verification come with any bonus.
So, it is actually very commendable to see that Stake have incentivised their kyc system, rewarding users up to $250 for simply submitting and passing kyc verification.
I also have completed kyc level one and two, this was a very long time ago though, like in 2021 if I still remember well.
I am curious to know if the bonus is available to everyone or to a selected few.?
Likely to VIPs and HRs; us commoners only received the plain ol' access to extra rewards and that's that.
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October 02, 2024, 04:22:35 PM |
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The level 2 reward is big and it looks like a trap or using it to lure gambling participants to submit their KYC because ordinary many would not but with that amount users would submit because they would like to receive the 250$ and use it to play games and if there luck with them that day, they will win big. Be careful with big bait. I don't know why such amount is given to level up.
Can you explain what you mean by trap regarding the level 2 reward? Are you saying that the $250 reward is intentionally large to encourage people to submit their KYC when they normally wouldn't? I guess this reward you mentioned is for those who are Platinum VIP. If you don't have enough wagers, they definitely won't give you balance like this. I don't think stake.com will give free balance just for KYC, unless it would become a liability for the platform.
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October 02, 2024, 05:14:23 PM |
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If you don't have enough wagers, they definitely won't give you balance like this. I don't think stake.com will give free balance just for KYC, unless it would become a liability for the platform.
I think the direction of this reward is indeed on the KYC obligation that will be enforced by Stake. Maybe this step can also sort out thousands of Stake users to comply with one customer/household. I also think it's good that there are no traps with bonuses given to customers who do KYC. The bonuses given are also different for each user. I rarely use Stake, I also get emails for KYC level 2 verification with a bonus that will be given $ 10. Maybe inactive accounts also get emails but don't get bonus offers.
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October 02, 2024, 05:54:31 PM |
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If you don't have enough wagers, they definitely won't give you balance like this. I don't think stake.com will give free balance just for KYC, unless it would become a liability for the platform.
I think the direction of this reward is indeed on the KYC obligation that will be enforced by Stake. Maybe this step can also sort out thousands of Stake users to comply with one customer/household. I also think it's good that there are no traps with bonuses given to customers who do KYC. The bonuses given are also different for each user. I rarely use Stake, I also get emails for KYC level 2 verification with a bonus that will be given $ 10. Maybe inactive accounts also get emails but don't get bonus offers. Reasonable if Stake offer different amount of bonus as it will be wasting money if they offer all users with the same amount ($250). It seems that the offered amount is based on some criteria such as VIP rank and current wager statistic. The higher rank and wager statistic may receive bigger offer because Stake wont let their big players to go easily just because of the mandatory KYC rule starting next year. Inactive accounts may also receive email since the rule is applied to all users but again the offer might be different from one to another.
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October 02, 2024, 07:35:36 PM |
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Everyone talking about "KYC" I also got these "emails", with the bonus amount 250$. I guess it's time say goodbye for "non-KYC user, these one mandatory before 1st January 2025. Could be these bonus only for user with still have wagering a couple months/weeks + depending on the VIP rank as well. My rank is Platinum III. I guess, I will verify now cause getting 250$ . I want to make sure, these needed to be accepted before 2PM (UTC) on Monday 7th of October 2024 ? cause in the Email only with word (IF). Honestly I am waiting for your statement because you are one of the users who refused KYC and now you have made your choice, but yeah about the word (IF) I think this is interesting, imagine in the next few days the stake team will check thousands of identity cards will they actually check it or just a few? or maybe there is another scenario for example, if the user has gone through KYC but has not been verified /in the queue then they are still eligible for the bonus. By the way, for Bronze level the bonus is around $50 but I don't know if the game activity will affect the bonus at least 2 of my friends confirmed this, while non-VIP accounts will get $10 after KYC, I think they will ignore the $10.
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October 02, 2024, 11:24:34 PM |
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I got a similar message as well when I checked the site. I also received the same emails and mostly ignored them because I thought it was only optional until they announced this.
I've also received the message and of course will have to follow the level 2 KYC since level 1 isn't enough and they're enforcing it until the end of this year. If users who have not done KYC level 2 are required to verify immediately and then get a bonus, then what about those who have completed KYC level 2 a long time ago? have they also received a bonus? or does it only apply to those who have not done KYC? because it will be unfair if those who have done it for a long time do not receive any offers. I just want to know how this rule system works.
Hmm, this is probably for the support to answer this. But don't you have any emails about any potential bonus since you have filled and complied to level 2 long time ago? If there's no bonus for them, it's stake's discretion not to give them and only incentivized it to the level 1 users so that everybody will comply.
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ryzaadit
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October 03, 2024, 02:03:16 AM Last edit: October 03, 2024, 02:18:04 AM by ryzaadit |
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What's do u expect ? Let it go to my account? In the statement being mentioned we can't use our account anymore in 2025. IMO, these could be the last warning or message regarding "KYC" with some reward. These could be the last reward they can offers. Just take 250$ it's from my unclaimed 20% bonus from Level 2 Account ~XD. because it will be unfair if those who have done it for a long time do not receive any offers. I just want to know how this rule system works.
Fair or not, you verified user got more bonus from level 2 account 20%. Meanwhile, non - KYC account not getting any bonus, you can multiply with around 2 years+.
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October 03, 2024, 02:11:30 AM |
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So no more anonymous gambling at Stake.com? Stake was my favorite because they never asked for any KYC from the past 5-6 years. I have deposited thousands of dollars and gambled, but not a single time I was asked for KYC. This was one of the reasons for which I have praised and promoted Stake wherever I can. Nevertheless, I think the golden days are gone. I have also received a mail to do the KYC before the end of the year. I was offered $50 as a bonus. I have to think again before completing the KYC, as the main motive for crypto gambling was to gamble anonymously. Stake broke my heart; it was my love. Now it can only be accessed through a condition, which really makes me sad.
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October 03, 2024, 06:03:29 AM Last edit: October 03, 2024, 07:37:10 AM by ryzaadit |
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There is no such thing as "casino-anonymous" especially with the web2 website. If you are not being requested "KYC" doesn't mean the casino is anonymous, it's not being needed at the time you are accessing but you still always getting requests at some time in the future. Never trust casinos that claims "anonymous", mostly in their term & conditions there always some words stated. Casino will have some right to ask you KYC in some case. Anynomous or non KYC casino is only with smart contract casino site, but the game is limited mostly just dice on chain, guess character/number last hash or jackpot.
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October 03, 2024, 12:53:56 PM |
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So no more anonymous gambling at Stake.com? Stake was my favorite because they never asked for any KYC from the past 5-6 years. I have deposited thousands of dollars and gambled, but not a single time I was asked for KYC. This was one of the reasons for which I have praised and promoted Stake wherever I can. Nevertheless, I think the golden days are gone. I have also received a mail to do the KYC before the end of the year. I was offered $50 as a bonus. I have to think again before completing the KYC, as the main motive for crypto gambling was to gamble anonymously. Stake broke my heart; it was my love. Now it can only be accessed through a condition, which really makes me sad.
Stake has taken a policy that has certainly been considered for many things, including how customers like you respond. I would not think that Stake's golden age is over. I am sure this is related to better planning in the future. of course, there will be customers who will leave Stake because they do not want to verify their accounts for whatever reason they have. but I believe there will be more who will still verify their accounts immediately. not because of the various bonuses given. of course, that amount is nothing compared to what has been deposited into Stake. but Stake's intention to take this step is certainly for better business purposes.
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The level 2 reward is big and it looks like a trap or using it to lure gambling participants to submit their KYC because ordinary many would not but with that amount users would submit because they would like to receive the 250$ and use it to play games and if there luck with them that day, they will win big. Be careful with big bait. I don't know why such amount is given to level up.
Stake is a huge brand, I doubt this is a trap and I don’t find any reason to view it that way since most of the casino requires KYC to every players while they doesn’t offer any bonus for your KYC compliance. At least at Stake they incentivize you for completing while you will just do it too in the future since they are allowed to require an account to do KYC anytime they want. A 250$ reward is already a sweet deal considering that Stake is the number brand on casino industry. I will understand your sentiment if the casino we are talking about is a mediocre casino.
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KYC is just going to make them lose players that were playing from a prohibited region. My friend a PLAT IV user is playing from germany, without a vpn and has had not problems playing on Stake. Now when he does his KYC, they will notice he is playing from germany, ban his account and he cant play anymore... and well, he will take his action and money elsewhere to play on a sportsbook where he is annonymous as Bitcoin was supposed to be... I cant blame him and I will probably do the same, take my business elsewhere. Later, stake
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October 03, 2024, 03:12:03 PM |
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Germany isn't only in the restricted countries list at Stake, but also in most other licensed casino. You will rarely find a perfect crypto casino where players from Germany are allowed to play anonymously. There are a lot of players at Stake who is a resident of Germany. Only the old players of Germany can still play at Stake as Germany wasn't in the restricted countries list in the past. Your friend is having this benefit. It is true that Stake will loss a decent number of users for this mandatory verification rule. Still, it isn’t going to create a significant impact there.
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October 03, 2024, 03:15:20 PM |
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KYC is just going to make them lose players that were playing from a prohibited region. My friend a PLAT IV user is playing from germany, without a vpn and has had not problems playing on Stake. Now when he does his KYC, they will notice he is playing from germany, ban his account and he cant play anymore... and well, he will take his action and money elsewhere to play on a sportsbook where he is annonymous as Bitcoin was supposed to be... I cant blame him and I will probably do the same, take my business elsewhere. Later, stake
I guess so, I'm sure that there are still many players (even whales) who do not like to submit their personal document. Of course I also believe that Stake is aware about this possibility so they must be ready to lose some players due to this new rule. Any decision must have advantages and disadvantages at the same time. Btw I think some users here have predicted about this mandatory KYC to all users since last year IIRC or since they apply a rule for new registered player to complete at least level 1 verification.
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I don't think right now is about the user.
But, about the revenue is being generated. These can only be answered after 1 Jan 2025, and it's quite simple to see these changes. You just need to take a look on how much money they're sharing for each weekly claim. They shared the information that the amount of money is being shared on weekly claims, at this time they're in the range of 15-16M$. IMO, Stake.com is no longer focused on the user base line.
They already reached 50,000+ user online almost everyday. It's really really bigs for online casino, I don't think any other casino can competed in these number. If the number amount weekly share on 1 Jan 2025 under 15M$ meaning the change is effecting their revenue but if not under those number then nothings effected at all for the revenue.
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October 03, 2024, 06:04:48 PM |
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Germany isn't only in the restricted countries list at Stake, but also in most other licensed casino. You will rarely find a perfect crypto casino where players from Germany are allowed to play anonymously. There are a lot of players at Stake who is a resident of Germany. Only the old players of Germany can still play at Stake as Germany wasn't in the restricted countries list in the past. Your friend is having this benefit. It is true that Stake will loss a decent number of users for this mandatory verification rule. Still, it isn’t going to create a significant impact there. Casinos never want to lose their players because they are losing potential profit making but it's all the regulations by the government so if casino has to operate without facing legal consequences then they need to comply whatever they have to answer it's also the government's responsibility to give the freedom of choosing what they wanted to do or else they will end up on a scam site and eventually lose their money.
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because it will be unfair if those who have done it for a long time do not receive any offers. I just want to know how this rule system works.
Fair or not, you verified user got more bonus from level 2 account 20%. Meanwhile, non - KYC account not getting any bonus, you can multiply with around 2 years+. True, I can prove this. I didn't get a bonus because I am a non-kyc and just recently complied to the level 2 and my verification is complete. So, to those that have been verified already prior to this, you're getting the bonus instead or if not, it's something to do with the wagers that you've done for the whole stay you guys did with stake. I don't know, that's just a speculation and maybe the recent users that just verified will have to wait for some sort of bonus. Otherwise, it's okay if there's none.
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Well, whatever it will be. I am curious if other sites will also take this approach and make KYC mandatory. I mean there must be a reason stake took this step. Maybe they were forced to because of license stuff or whatever.
I am also eager to know how fast they can handle such a high amount of verification requests. They said you have 1 week time ti do the KYC to get the bonus. Who knows how many people right now have done this and I honestly doubt they can handle such a high volume in such a short time. So it might be that even if the KYC was made in the 1st or 2nd day of the bonus window the bonus might not be paid due to time issues.
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October 04, 2024, 01:47:53 AM Last edit: October 04, 2024, 02:58:16 AM by ryzaadit |
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Well, whatever it will be. I am curious if other sites will also take this approach and make KYC mandatory. I mean there must be a reason stake took this step. Maybe they were forced to because of license stuff or whatever.
Unless, other casino have the same business operation. Stake has been operating legally with specific side especially (US & UK) while most of these casino is really strictly, the force could be not coming from license. I am also eager to know how fast they can handle such a high amount of verification requests. They said you have 1 week time ti do the KYC to get the bonus. Who knows how many people right now have done this and I honestly doubt they can handle such a high volume in such a short time. So it might be that even if the KYC was made in the 1st or 2nd day of the bonus window the bonus might not be paid due to time issues.
Level 2 should be at least 30 mins, If more than 24 days just contact the live support. They will forwarded to push the verification, mine was waiting 24 hour and asking to the support. He response me with those statement, after those message my level 2 getting accepted.
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