UTRUST

[Mystic90]

This whole bitcoin drama is exhausting from an investor point of view. I hope that this will be over soon

I on the contrary believe that it is still only beginning   

I am excited to see how these bitcoin forks will work out and what kind of effect they will have on UTrust ICO. I also have the feeling this is only the beginning.

I hope they all become worthless and uTrust will only accept the real BTC!

[Costa-la-Costa]

The reasonableness of the concept is impressive. Not sure about sufficient scalability of the platform. VISA will be defeated?...

[toolucky98]

I don't think this problem will stop UTRUST from releasing their payments platform. People working in the payment business need to know and be ahead of possible frauds like this. I'm sure will be dealt with if it's proven to be a problem.

Yes of course, there is no way they wont release their platform.
There is too much effort for this project.

[kraterion]

10 more days to go for the UTRUST crowdsale , hope we can finish the ico early so UTRUST can proceed with the next developments for UTRUST.

This is good news I searched their website and it says there that UTRUST ICO starts on November 2, 2017, 2pm UTC. Can't wait to participate at Utrust ICO crowedsale. As of now they will only accept ETH/BTC wallet. (reference from their website)

As far as the tech goes Utrust have all the chances of selling out before the ICO ends.

I believe they will sell out in a few days, the ICO should be a success. Their marketing job is done very well. The product seems good. The team looks very committed and they are all over the Internet.

In my opinion, after the hard fork completed on October 25th, the market will comeback to normal.
Therefore, with the potential of Utrust token, I think it will reach hard cap within few hours.
Unless the cryptocurrency market still panic in that time

There was'nt hardfork on October 25th, it was a usual shitcoin, hardfork will only be in November and will be called segwit2x.

This whole bitcoin drama is exhausting from an investor point of view. I hope that this will be over soon

well BTG hardfork just happened and BTC slightly dropping and alts going up, so drama is almost over. 1 more to go

BTG wasn't a drama at all, s2x is a drama if they won't implement replay protection. Btw have you read conintelegraph article anout Utrust? https://cointelegraph.com/news/imagine-paypal-juiced-by-blockchain-steroids

[the_donald]

I don't think this problem will stop UTRUST from releasing their payments platform. People working in the payment business need to know and be ahead of possible frauds like this. I'm sure will be dealt with if it's proven to be a problem.

Yes of course, there is no way they wont release their platform.
There is too much effort for this project.

It's within their own interest to release the platform. if it works as advertised they they will be rich.

[KenDowson]

Sorry, I didn't understand - what about debit card option for sellers? Do you have one?

[mylifeisfullofalts]

 i see that UTRUST has a very busy calendar ahead, it's a really good way of creating momentum before the UTRUST ICO starts, more people will be bale to jump on board before the UTRUST ICO starts on 2nd of November.

[hardhouseinc]

I was trying to find out it this ICO has an individual cap, couldn't find some yet. If you do know what's this ICO's cap please let me know

[Elkmar]

I was trying to find out it this ICO has an individual cap, couldn't find some yet. If you do know what's this ICO's cap please let me know

I don't think I've seen any individual cap.

[magisterr]

Sorry, I didn't understand - what about debit card option for sellers? Do you have one?

Debit cards? No, they will dont have cards. Its payment system with merchants (like Paypal) but for cryptocurrencies.

[Trrrt]

I also think that Utrust is better than actual online payment platform. More features incoming and Utrust will be able to manage crypto currencies, so much crypto users need a platform like Utrust to simplify the way they pay with crypto currencies.

[Sozialtourist]

I don't think this problem will stop UTRUST from releasing their payments platform. People working in the payment business need to know and be ahead of possible frauds like this. I'm sure will be dealt with if it's proven to be a problem.

Yes of course, there is no way they wont release their platform.
There is too much effort for this project.

It's within their own interest to release the platform. if it works as advertised they they will be rich.

Yes, the release of the platform and the first merchants that offer for buyers to pay via UTrust are essential for the growth of the token-price. And if they can stick to the roadmap on their website, 2018 could be a good year for all holders of UTrust tokens.

[Rigorous]

Have you guys heard the expression : "Cross the brigde when you get to the bridge." I think it suits here pretty well.

You cant really have solutions for all possible scenarios, and it's too time consuming to try and do so. Specially when each case can be different, they will require an individual approach.

Escrow is UTRUST's main distinguishing feature. Besides, they are raising millions. For that kind of money I am sure we are allowed to ask them to think about those scenarios.

[tiger5056]

Have you guys heard the expression : "Cross the brigde when you get to the bridge." I think it suits here pretty well.

You cant really have solutions for all possible scenarios, and it's too time consuming to try and do so. Specially when each case can be different, they will require an individual approach.

Escrow is UTRUST's main distinguishing feature. Besides, they are raising millions. For that kind of money I am sure we are allowed to ask them to think about those scenarios.

I am sure they will think trough it. Dev team is solid and willing to listen comments from community.

[Pajulapoiss]

Have you guys heard the expression : "Cross the brigde when you get to the bridge." I think it suits here pretty well.

You cant really have solutions for all possible scenarios, and it's too time consuming to try and do so. Specially when each case can be different, they will require an individual approach.

Escrow is UTRUST's main distinguishing feature. Besides, they are raising millions. For that kind of money I am sure we are allowed to ask them to think about those scenarios.

Good point man!

ofc you can ask questions, I'm just saying that you cant prepare for all possible scenarios, but you can prepare to deal with them when they arrive.

[cantdecide]

I am ready to sell 100k tokens Utrust at the price of $0,05 (total $5k)

I bought on pre-sale, I can confirm of a screenshot from a my account.
Everything is honest, no SCAM. I don't have sense to deceive (my income from a difference of the prices).

Attention: tokens will be moved only after ICO (~10th of November). Only then I will be able to send them to the buyer.

If you don't trust, we can make through escrow.
Also honesty confirmation: my account at BitcoinTalk-forum which is expensive to me.

Still relevant

Algorithm
1. The buyer sends 5k USDT to the eskrow.
2. I send a certain sum (for example 1k USDT) to the escrow - as pledge (guarantee of the fact that I won't cancel the arrangement)
3. Wait...
4. ~10th of November I send tokens Utrust to eskrow. (It is impossible earlier. Tokens will be moved only after ICO)
5. The escrow sends me 6k USDT (5k + 1k pledge) and to the buyer - 100k Utrust tokens.

Profit

if you are interested, send me a PM.

Can you explain me why you need to make the deal now if you can't get the money anyways before 10th of November? If this is the case, you could just wait and sell then the ordinary way.

dunno, maybe he is in a pinch and wants to get out of it, but why then escrow

@granturismo777

why do you want to sell so badly? this token will skyrocket

I really can't understand either. If you are afraid it will perform badly after the ico, still you can sell it more than 0.05 easily. What is the rush about it?

Can also be that he need to have money in hand now for some urget reason. Nevertheless i think selling immediately is not very wise, the project will take time to shine and show the true potential. When it does the price will go to the moon.

But he has no money in hand now, because he also will become the money just on 10th of November. Also he will throw in 1k to the escrow as a deposit.

[mike0182]

I was trying to find out it this ICO has an individual cap, couldn't find some yet. If you do know what's this ICO's cap please let me know

I don't think I've seen any individual cap.

For the ICO Round individual cap is not present.

[MuffinMaster]

I was trying to find out it this ICO has an individual cap, couldn't find some yet. If you do know what's this ICO's cap please let me know

I don't think I've seen any individual cap.

For the ICO Round individual cap is not present.

There is only max amount of tokens for sale = 700.000.000, so we can say that they have hard cap.
I also didn't found info about minimum to success, so probably they don't have soft cap to achieve.

[Sozialtourist]

I was trying to find out it this ICO has an individual cap, couldn't find some yet. If you do know what's this ICO's cap please let me know

I don't think I've seen any individual cap.

For the ICO Round individual cap is not present.

There is only max amount of tokens for sale = 700.000.000, so we can say that they have hard cap.
I also didn't found info about minimum to success, so probably they don't have soft cap to achieve.

They are not talking about the soft- or hard cap of the project (btw. soft cap ist at around $10M). It's about how much ETH one individual investor is allowed to invest. There are some project that set a limit to that amount, but I don't know how UTrust handles this. Would indeed be interesting to know before the ICO starts.

[niklasmato]

10 more days to go for the UTRUST crowdsale , hope we can finish the ico early so UTRUST can proceed with the next developments for UTRUST.

This is good news I searched their website and it says there that UTRUST ICO starts on November 2, 2017, 2pm UTC. Can't wait to participate at Utrust ICO crowedsale. As of now they will only accept ETH/BTC wallet. (reference from their website)

As far as the tech goes Utrust have all the chances of selling out before the ICO ends.

I believe they will sell out in a few days, the ICO should be a success. Their marketing job is done very well. The product seems good. The team looks very committed and they are all over the Internet.

In my opinion, after the hard fork completed on October 25th, the market will comeback to normal.
Therefore, with the potential of Utrust token, I think it will reach hard cap within few hours.
Unless the cryptocurrency market still panic in that time

There was'nt hardfork on October 25th, it was a usual shitcoin, hardfork will only be in November and will be called segwit2x.

This whole bitcoin drama is exhausting from an investor point of view. I hope that this will be over soon

Wish for the same. But maybe the price will be back to normal again in the beginning of 2018 since there will be two forks soon if I am not mistakenly read the news.

Well the good news is that all the ALTs are going back up in value, some have nearly rise 30% so that's good. But the next drama isn't that far away with the segwit fork..
IF this keeps going we will see 3 a 4 forks of Bitcoin in a year... imho  Bitcoin will lose value due to those forks....