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September 06, 2016, 01:51:35 AM |
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Hi all, Im making a spreadsheet to calculate loss streaks, and i have a question. Hope you can help me to understand what is wrong with this. I set autobet like this. bet 2 satoshis 3x payout 50% on loss Lets check roll results if i start with 2 sats, let say i lose it would be ( 2 * 0,5 ) + 2 = 3 Next roll is 3 ( 3 * 0,5 ) + 3 = 4.5 Next roll is 4 (check primedice image). So I asume 4.5 is rounded to 4 Next roll is 4 ( 2 * 0,5 ) + 4 = 6 Next roll is 6 ( 6 * 0,5 ) + 6 = 9 Next roll is 9 ( 9 * 0,5 ) + 9 = 13.5 here is my problem. Why primedice shows me 14? Hope i explain myself good. Thanks! Try running this again but this time bet 10sats or 100sats are your base and see what your results are. It is really strange that it keeps rounding up and rounding down like that.
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abitguru
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September 06, 2016, 02:18:58 AM |
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Try running this again but this time bet 10sats or 100sats are your base and see what your results are. It is really strange that it keeps rounding up and rounding down like that.
running with 10 sats basebet = 10 sats Payout = 3x Onloss = 50% 1 roll - 10 sats ( 10 * 0.5 ) + 10 = 15 2 roll - 15 sats ( 15 * 0.5 ) + 15 = 22.5 3 roll - 23 sats (round up) ( 23 * 0.5 ) + 23 = 34.5 4 roll - 33 sats (WTF PD does ) I dont get whats happening I dunno how to calculate this to make my spreedsheet works fine
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torry28
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September 06, 2016, 02:44:02 AM |
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running with 10 sats basebet = 10 sats Payout = 3x Onloss = 50% 1 roll - 10 sats ( 10 * 0.5 ) + 10 = 15 2 roll - 15 sats ( 15 * 0.5 ) + 15 = 22.5 3 roll - 23 sats (round up) ( 23 * 0.5 ) + 23 = 34.5 4 roll - 33 sats (WTF PD does ) I dont get whats happening I dunno how to calculate this to make my spreedsheet works fine this is just my opinion, but i think you forgot about 1% house edge. So, we should calculate it with 49% increase on lose (or 0.49). basebet = 10 sats Payout = 3x Onloss = 50% 1 roll - 10 sats ( 10 * 0.49 ) + 10 = 14.9 (round up to 15sats) 2 roll - 15 sats ( 15 * 0.49 ) + 15 = 22.35 (round down to 22) 3 roll - 22 sats ( 22 * 0.49 ) + 22 = 32.78 (round up to 33) 4 roll - 33 sats = same with your screenshot
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adaseb
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September 06, 2016, 02:58:48 AM |
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Yeah its probably the house edge OR it rounds up and later on it rounds down to even it out. Maybe try doing about 20-30 bets and see if it alternates, but most likely its the 1% house edge that you need to take into account.
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September 06, 2016, 04:12:03 AM |
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seems primedice is facing lot of bugs/errors this past few weeks/days. Hope they will fix it asap as they are known as the most popular gambling site and trusted. And also hope they get back that even we disabled animation we can still see the results in result bar.
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rektDude
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September 06, 2016, 07:25:24 AM |
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I usually just lurk around this section, but wow, this site is genuinely awesome. The user interface is slightly confusing but other than that it's pretty much perfect.
I managed to turn my "free bonus" thing into 0.01 BTC then lost it haha.
Btw you should add an affiliate program, I'd be more than happy to support this. Msg me if your interested.
An affiliate program is absolutely something we are looking into implementing within the near future. If you are interested in adding us to your signature please send me a PM and we can pay you to do so. Primedice is one of the most used casinos with bitcoins for sure i dont really know why the topic of this forum always only is promoting casinos but now i know it everyone has a casino lol
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Stunna (OP)
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September 06, 2016, 07:28:24 AM |
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seems primedice is facing lot of bugs/errors this past few weeks/days. Hope they will fix it asap as they are known as the most popular gambling site and trusted. And also hope they get back that even we disabled animation we can still see the results in result bar.
PM me any issues and I will get them sorted asap, things seem smooth right now. We're going to be editing roll bar ASAP to add a third option. We're trying to accommodate everyone.
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LoyceV
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September 06, 2016, 07:52:53 AM |
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if i start with 2 sats, let say i lose it would be ( 2 * 0,5 ) + 2 = 3
Next roll is 3 ( 3 * 0,5 ) + 3 = 4.5
Next roll is 4 (check primedice image). So I asume 4.5 is rounded to 4
Next roll is 4 ( 2 * 0,5 ) + 4 = 6
Next roll is 6 ( 6 * 0,5 ) + 6 = 9
Next roll is 9 ( 9 * 0,5 ) + 9 = 13.5
here is my problem. Why primedice shows me 14? Primedice shows a rounded value, but internally it uses more decimals. You can easily test this: bet 1 sat at 1.2x. If you win, your balance goes up by 0.2 sat, which you can't see. You need to win 5 times before your balance goes up 1 sat.
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senyorito123
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September 06, 2016, 09:19:20 AM |
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seems primedice is facing lot of bugs/errors this past few weeks/days. Hope they will fix it asap as they are known as the most popular gambling site and trusted. And also hope they get back that even we disabled animation we can still see the results in result bar.
Maybe you should report it to stunna so they can see that problem is existing and to be fixed immediately, and as i've seen the site is running good at my end but if you notice some bugs well maybe that is one of the existing problem for some major updates on pd, so report it now to help stunna clear those mess and make the pd play experience be more good.
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adaseb
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September 06, 2016, 09:23:23 AM |
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if i start with 2 sats, let say i lose it would be ( 2 * 0,5 ) + 2 = 3
Next roll is 3 ( 3 * 0,5 ) + 3 = 4.5
Next roll is 4 (check primedice image). So I asume 4.5 is rounded to 4
Next roll is 4 ( 2 * 0,5 ) + 4 = 6
Next roll is 6 ( 6 * 0,5 ) + 6 = 9
Next roll is 9 ( 9 * 0,5 ) + 9 = 13.5
here is my problem. Why primedice shows me 14? Primedice shows a rounded value, but internally it uses more decimals. You can easily test this: bet 1 sat at 1.2x. If you win, your balance goes up by 0.2 sat, which you can't see. You need to win 5 times before your balance goes up 1 sat. We know that but why is it that at first it rounds down and then later on it rounds up? Its a very small amount and not really an issue, and since he is using the autobot, I don't think he cares about the very small difference but how is the value calculated exactly?
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September 06, 2016, 09:45:08 AM |
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Primedice shows a rounded value, but internally it uses more decimals.
You can easily test this: bet 1 sat at 1.2x. If you win, your balance goes up by 0.2 sat, which you can't see. You need to win 5 times before your balance goes up 1 sat.
Hmm, then it's even more unclear. 3*1.5 = 4.5 (shows 4) 4*1.5 = 6 (but really 4.5*0.5 = 6.75) 6*1.5 = 9 (6.75*0.5 = 10.125) Shouldn't be 10 here then?
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abitguru
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September 06, 2016, 09:54:17 AM |
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running with 10 sats basebet = 10 sats Payout = 3x Onloss = 50% 1 roll - 10 sats ( 10 * 0.5 ) + 10 = 15 2 roll - 15 sats ( 15 * 0.5 ) + 15 = 22.5 3 roll - 23 sats (round up) ( 23 * 0.5 ) + 23 = 34.5 4 roll - 33 sats (WTF PD does ) I dont get whats happening I dunno how to calculate this to make my spreedsheet works fine this is just my opinion, but i think you forgot about 1% house edge. So, we should calculate it with 49% increase on lose (or 0.49). basebet = 10 sats Payout = 3x Onloss = 50% 1 roll - 10 sats ( 10 * 0.49 ) + 10 = 14.9 (round up to 15sats) 2 roll - 15 sats ( 15 * 0.49 ) + 15 = 22.35 (round down to 22) 3 roll - 22 sats ( 22 * 0.49 ) + 22 = 32.78 (round up to 33) 4 roll - 33 sats = same with your screenshot Thanks i forget to include house edge. Im going to test again. But i dont get why sometimes seems to round down and sometimes round up. Hope house edge fix my problem. Thanks a lot again.
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September 06, 2016, 10:00:20 AM |
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Submitted ticket 15941 regarding unauthorized account Aug.25 ,gave the necessary details but until now no reply....like seriously??
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adaseb
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September 06, 2016, 11:42:41 AM |
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Submitted ticket 15941 regarding unauthorized account Aug.25 ,gave the necessary details but until now no reply....like seriously??
Yeah lately they have been very slow at responding to ticket requests. Maybe you can try opening another ticket, maybe yours was missed somehow.
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abitguru
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September 06, 2016, 12:42:53 PM |
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Testing with house edge (in case you cant see the img=> http://prnt.sc/cesfy8 ) 10 sats base 3x payout 50% onloss No round (10 * 0,49) + 10 = 14,9 (14,9 * 0,49) + 14,9 = 22,201 (22,201 * 0,49) + 22,201 = 33,07949 (33,07949 * 0,49) + 33,07949 = 49,288 Why primedice roll 50 sats instead of 49. Do the same calculation with round, and i get the same result. I cant figure out how it works :S
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September 06, 2016, 01:18:23 PM |
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So, I am now unable to login at primedice (Unauthorized), and I can't reset password, it's been like this for a few days now.
Is it being fixed?
Do I have to do something?
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September 06, 2016, 02:13:32 PM |
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So, I am now unable to login at primedice (Unauthorized), and I can't reset password, it's been like this for a few days now.
Is it being fixed?
Do I have to do something?
Submit a support tickey with ur issue
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shadobitz
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September 06, 2016, 02:30:30 PM |
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So, I am now unable to login at primedice (Unauthorized), and I can't reset password, it's been like this for a few days now.
Is it being fixed?
Do I have to do something?
You have to wait until support section reached the queue, there is so many pending support tickets and support is very slow like snail because some users submitted more than 50 tickets for same problem, that is the reason everything getting delay.
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September 06, 2016, 07:33:45 PM |
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PM me any issues and I will get them sorted asap, things seem smooth right now.
We're going to be editing roll bar ASAP to add a third option. We're trying to accommodate everyone.
If you're trying to accomodate everyone, Stunna, what about effective chat moderation? Like IP bans or only one account allowed? Because now everyone suffers over few retards destroying chat everyday and it seems nothing can be done about it. Not to mention mods are much less seen these days and sometimes those assholes can do it literally for hours. And yes, I know there's ignore function, but I think that's not the point - if it was, why keep mods on chat at all, right? Don't be greedy Stunna. Sacrifice few btcs for proper solutions, which will be good for whole pd community.
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adaseb
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September 07, 2016, 07:48:44 AM |
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PM me any issues and I will get them sorted asap, things seem smooth right now.
We're going to be editing roll bar ASAP to add a third option. We're trying to accommodate everyone.
If you're trying to accomodate everyone, Stunna, what about effective chat moderation? Like IP bans or only one account allowed? Because now everyone suffers over few retards destroying chat everyday and it seems nothing can be done about it. Not to mention mods are much less seen these days and sometimes those assholes can do it literally for hours. And yes, I know there's ignore function, but I think that's not the point - if it was, why keep mods on chat at all, right? Don't be greedy Stunna. Sacrifice few btcs for proper solutions, which will be good for whole pd community. Yeah I noticed that happening more and more lately. Basically I think its immature kids who are doing this. Because they all seem to have alot of time on their hands.
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