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[MICRO]

Stunna, have you done analysis on the faucet claims like how many claims are made by real bettors (those deposited and played regularly) and how many claims are made by leechers (those never deposited but just played with faucet again and again)?

Do this and place an IP ban on them could be a solution right on the top of my head.

This is internet . Ip ban doesn't mean anything. Its way to easy to change ur ip.

[BBmmBB]

Stunna, have you done analysis on the faucet claims like how many claims are made by real bettors (those deposited and played regularly) and how many claims are made by leechers (those never deposited but just played with faucet again and again)?

Some people did deposit just to get wagered up so they get more faucet .

And now they are complaining how they invested in bigger faucet and its not fair to remove it
Some even say they should get that coins back if faucet is removed ...

Like RLY LOL .

sounds like false advertising if that was his offer and then he renigs on it what?,  people should not hold him to his word? :\    ~ typical

[yatsey87]

greed is king in crypto! ~ get to know

This statement couldnt be more false, but like anything where money or investments are concerned the greedy flock to it like flies to shit. Sadly the majority of people get involved because of their greed, but this is not what bitcoin is about.

what is it about then ? id say bitcoin is around 91% scammers, hackers and get-rich-quick schemes! :\

Maybe you fall into one of these groups but I certainly dont. Just because there's lots of scammers about isn't bitcoin's fault or problem. That's natural, but there are far more decent people who just believe in bitcoin and want it to suceed.

[Cyrax89721]

Stunna & Crew -- Here's my idea regarding the current faucet and how it could change for the better.  It's a difficult one for me to explain, so hopefully its understood what my idea is.

• Allow users to have a "faucet address" that they can deposit to.
• There is a max amount of BTC that can be requested from this address (say, ~5,000-10,000 sats) every 60 seconds.  So I deposit .01 BTC that'll keep me good for 200 faucet claims at 5,000 sats a claim.  
• If you withdraw from this address, you relinquish your ability to claim a faucet.
• Levelling at the site can act as  "interest accrued" and your faucet balance can be increased simply by playing more
• The higher the balance you have in this account, the more interest you accrue.  Kind of similar to investing in the bankroll, but not attached to the bankroll
• Lower level (first timer) accounts can automatically get 5,000 sats deposited to this account with a 250 sat limit.  Again, leveling helps increase the amount claimable

 
Obviously there's a lot more ideas that could revolve around this that I haven't listed, but it's just an idea that can be built upon.   Or shunned as being fucking retarded.  You decide.

[MICRO]

Stunna & Crew -- Here's my idea regarding the current faucet and how it could change for the better.  It's a difficult one for me to explain, so hopefully its understood what my idea is.

• Allow users to have a "faucet address" that they can deposit to.
• There is a max amount of BTC that can be requested from this address (say, ~5,000-10,000 sats) every 60 seconds.  So I deposit .01 BTC that'll keep me good for 200 faucet claims at 5,000 sats a claim. 
• If you withdraw from this address, you relinquish your ability to claim a faucet.
• Levelling at the site can act as  "interest accrued" and your faucet balance can be increased simply by playing more
• The higher the balance you have in this account, the more interest you accrue.  Kind of similar to investing in the bankroll, but not attached to the bankroll
• Lower level (first timer) accounts can automatically get 5,000 sats deposited to this account with a 250 sat limit.  Again, leveling helps increase the amount claimable

 
Obviously there's a lot more ideas that could revolve around this that I haven't listed, but it's just an idea that can be built upon.   Or shunned as being fucking retarded.  You decide.

But people will be still spaming email with questions about that system.
And also it would require a lot of coding. And updates to the site, so probably some downtime , that costs pd .

We need to find much less painful and easier solution . 

[BBmmBB]

greed is king in crypto! ~ get to know

This statement couldnt be more false, but like anything where money or investments are concerned the greedy flock to it like flies to shit. Sadly the majority of people get involved because of their greed, but this is not what bitcoin is about.

what is it about then ? id say bitcoin is around 91% scammers, hackers and get-rich-quick schemes! :\

Maybe you fall into one of these groups but I certainly dont. Just because there's lots of scammers about isn't bitcoin's fault or problem. That's natural, but there are far more decent people who just believe in bitcoin and want it to suceed.

yes sir there are still a few of us who have hope ! >> http://bravetheworld.com/2014/08/13/declare-bitcoins-independence/

 

[Gws24]

rant

farm the faucet much?

I think the faucet should remain because it provides an easy entry for new players to get to know the site and eventually become a depositing player. Furthermore, despite the spamming, it makes the site look active in chat and that is always good. I however would remove the effect the number posts has on level as it adds nothing and only incourages spamming. imho. Don't really have a suggestion on how to deal with faucet farming or support mails other than just deleting those mails and reflect that in the Faq. People are getting free btc and do not have a right to complain about it imho.

[sickhouse]

Stunna, have you done analysis on the faucet claims like how many claims are made by real bettors (those deposited and played regularly) and how many claims are made by leechers (those never deposited but just played with faucet again and again)?

Do this and place an IP ban on them could be a solution right on the top of my head.

This is internet . Ip ban doesn't mean anything. Its way to easy to change ur ip.

I know, but that will remove the people who doesn't know how to change IP.

[Cyrax89721]

Stunna & Crew -- Here's my idea regarding the current faucet and how it could change for the better.  It's a difficult one for me to explain, so hopefully its understood what my idea is.

• Allow users to have a "faucet address" that they can deposit to.
• There is a max amount of BTC that can be requested from this address (say, ~5,000-10,000 sats) every 60 seconds.  So I deposit .01 BTC that'll keep me good for 200 faucet claims at 5,000 sats a claim.  
• If you withdraw from this address, you relinquish your ability to claim a faucet.
• Levelling at the site can act as  "interest accrued" and your faucet balance can be increased simply by playing more
• The higher the balance you have in this account, the more interest you accrue.  Kind of similar to investing in the bankroll, but not attached to the bankroll
• Lower level (first timer) accounts can automatically get 5,000 sats deposited to this account with a 250 sat limit.  Again, leveling helps increase the amount claimable

 
Obviously there's a lot more ideas that could revolve around this that I haven't listed, but it's just an idea that can be built upon.   Or shunned as being fucking retarded.  You decide.

But people will be still spaming email with questions about that system.
And also it would require a lot of coding. And updates to the site, so probably some downtime , that costs pd .

We need to find much less painful and easier solution .  

I really doubt there is a less painful and easier solution.  If you want shit to work, you have to work for it.

I'm very curious what all these support emails are and what the people are saying that can't be either canned responses or simple additions to the FAQ.

One more bullet point to add to my list above is to limit the amount depositable to this "faucet account" to avoid 50 BTC whales coming in to farm interest.

[sickhouse]

Ok here is what I think: Stunna has used the community as a tool and nothing more. He does not give 2 shits about the community, just look in the past;

Stunna is running a business. He pays for signatures when it makes economical sense to do so. He advertises the site however he thinks will have the best response. That's what businesses do.

1.3+ billion bets it doesn't take a genious to figure out that Stunna has made enough money and then some to live life in luxury.

You can't work out anything about how well he has done from just the number of bets on a site where the overwhelming majority of those bets are dust bets made with faucet payments... The site no longer publishes the amount wagered, only the number of bets, but when it stopped, it had been looking like this:

Tue Sep 30 11:14:09 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 479,855.2881 TOTAL BETS: 1,165,821,154
Wed Oct  1 09:26:44 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 481,527.3520 TOTAL BETS: 1,173,764,666
Thu Oct  2 11:09:28 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 484,587.2089 TOTAL BETS: 1,184,083,585

In the last 2 days they had 20 million bets wagering a total of 5000 BTC. That's an average of 0.00025 BTC per bet - much smaller than any of the other popular sites.

Stunna is a false greedy intelligent person - he could easy keep faucet up and still have enough, he has the money to hire way more staff but he doesn't need to. If he cared about the community he would keep the wallet and increased the staff to deal with problems. Go get me fanboys but come with valid arguments.

I'm not a fanboi, but I don't think any of this makes Stunna a bad person.

Stunna is a businessman. We have no idea how much his site has made or how much it has paid out to developers, hosting fees, funding the faucet, etc. Even if he has done very well from the site, he doesn't owe you the right to use a faucet on his site indefinitely.

It has been pretty clear that the site has been having trouble running smoothly at various times through its life. I get the impression that it has been better recently, but even then there have been problems with the chat lagging. Now maybe that's a good old fashioned DDoSing, but maybe the hoards of faucet users doesn't help either. If they're also overwhelming the support people with their calls free money then maybe it does make business sense to knock it on the head.

Made a large reply to this but I previewed it and went back it was gone. Even if it's smaller than any of the other popular sites (which btw? PD3 pretty much monopoly now) it's still fortune amounts.

Just gonna say this: I don't think Stunna is a bad guy like most of you seems to believe.

[sickhouse]

rant

farm the faucet much?

Yeah, but deposited way more than I've farmed.
Total
wagered
15.16306155
Total
profit
-0.07865904

[Cyrax89721]

Ok here is what I think: Stunna has used the community as a tool and nothing more. He does not give 2 shits about the community, just look in the past;

Stunna is running a business. He pays for signatures when it makes economical sense to do so. He advertises the site however he thinks will have the best response. That's what businesses do.

1.3+ billion bets it doesn't take a genious to figure out that Stunna has made enough money and then some to live life in luxury.

You can't work out anything about how well he has done from just the number of bets on a site where the overwhelming majority of those bets are dust bets made with faucet payments... The site no longer publishes the amount wagered, only the number of bets, but when it stopped, it had been looking like this:

Tue Sep 30 11:14:09 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 479,855.2881 TOTAL BETS: 1,165,821,154
Wed Oct  1 09:26:44 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 481,527.3520 TOTAL BETS: 1,173,764,666
Thu Oct  2 11:09:28 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 484,587.2089 TOTAL BETS: 1,184,083,585

In the last 2 days they had 20 million bets wagering a total of 5000 BTC. That's an average of 0.00025 BTC per bet - much smaller than any of the other popular sites.

Stunna is a false greedy intelligent person - he could easy keep faucet up and still have enough, he has the money to hire way more staff but he doesn't need to. If he cared about the community he would keep the wallet and increased the staff to deal with problems. Go get me fanboys but come with valid arguments.

I'm not a fanboi, but I don't think any of this makes Stunna a bad person.

Stunna is a businessman. We have no idea how much his site has made or how much it has paid out to developers, hosting fees, funding the faucet, etc. Even if he has done very well from the site, he doesn't owe you the right to use a faucet on his site indefinitely.

It has been pretty clear that the site has been having trouble running smoothly at various times through its life. I get the impression that it has been better recently, but even then there have been problems with the chat lagging. Now maybe that's a good old fashioned DDoSing, but maybe the hoards of faucet users doesn't help either. If they're also overwhelming the support people with their calls free money then maybe it does make business sense to knock it on the head.

Made a large reply to this but I previewed it and went back it was gone. Even if it's smaller than any of the other popular sites (which btw? PD3 pretty much monopoly now) it's still fortune amounts.

Just gonna say this: I don't think Stunna is a bad guy like most of you seems to believe.

If you don't think Stunna is a bad guy then I really don't see what point you're trying to make.

[sickhouse]

Ok here is what I think: Stunna has used the community as a tool and nothing more. He does not give 2 shits about the community, just look in the past;

Stunna is running a business. He pays for signatures when it makes economical sense to do so. He advertises the site however he thinks will have the best response. That's what businesses do.

1.3+ billion bets it doesn't take a genious to figure out that Stunna has made enough money and then some to live life in luxury.

You can't work out anything about how well he has done from just the number of bets on a site where the overwhelming majority of those bets are dust bets made with faucet payments... The site no longer publishes the amount wagered, only the number of bets, but when it stopped, it had been looking like this:

Tue Sep 30 11:14:09 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 479,855.2881 TOTAL BETS: 1,165,821,154
Wed Oct  1 09:26:44 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 481,527.3520 TOTAL BETS: 1,173,764,666
Thu Oct  2 11:09:28 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 484,587.2089 TOTAL BETS: 1,184,083,585

In the last 2 days they had 20 million bets wagering a total of 5000 BTC. That's an average of 0.00025 BTC per bet - much smaller than any of the other popular sites.

Stunna is a false greedy intelligent person - he could easy keep faucet up and still have enough, he has the money to hire way more staff but he doesn't need to. If he cared about the community he would keep the wallet and increased the staff to deal with problems. Go get me fanboys but come with valid arguments.

I'm not a fanboi, but I don't think any of this makes Stunna a bad person.

Stunna is a businessman. We have no idea how much his site has made or how much it has paid out to developers, hosting fees, funding the faucet, etc. Even if he has done very well from the site, he doesn't owe you the right to use a faucet on his site indefinitely.

It has been pretty clear that the site has been having trouble running smoothly at various times through its life. I get the impression that it has been better recently, but even then there have been problems with the chat lagging. Now maybe that's a good old fashioned DDoSing, but maybe the hoards of faucet users doesn't help either. If they're also overwhelming the support people with their calls free money then maybe it does make business sense to knock it on the head.

Made a large reply to this but I previewed it and went back it was gone. Even if it's smaller than any of the other popular sites (which btw? PD3 pretty much monopoly now) it's still fortune amounts.

Just gonna say this: I don't think Stunna is a bad guy like most of you seems to believe.

If you don't think Stunna is a bad guy then I really don't see what point you're trying to make.

Sigh.... I think some of his decisions are bad.

[Cyrax89721]

Ok here is what I think: Stunna has used the community as a tool and nothing more. He does not give 2 shits about the community, just look in the past;

Stunna is running a business. He pays for signatures when it makes economical sense to do so. He advertises the site however he thinks will have the best response. That's what businesses do.

1.3+ billion bets it doesn't take a genious to figure out that Stunna has made enough money and then some to live life in luxury.

You can't work out anything about how well he has done from just the number of bets on a site where the overwhelming majority of those bets are dust bets made with faucet payments... The site no longer publishes the amount wagered, only the number of bets, but when it stopped, it had been looking like this:

Tue Sep 30 11:14:09 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 479,855.2881 TOTAL BETS: 1,165,821,154
Wed Oct  1 09:26:44 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 481,527.3520 TOTAL BETS: 1,173,764,666
Thu Oct  2 11:09:28 PDT 2014    BTC WAGERED: 484,587.2089 TOTAL BETS: 1,184,083,585

In the last 2 days they had 20 million bets wagering a total of 5000 BTC. That's an average of 0.00025 BTC per bet - much smaller than any of the other popular sites.

Stunna is a false greedy intelligent person - he could easy keep faucet up and still have enough, he has the money to hire way more staff but he doesn't need to. If he cared about the community he would keep the wallet and increased the staff to deal with problems. Go get me fanboys but come with valid arguments.

I'm not a fanboi, but I don't think any of this makes Stunna a bad person.

Stunna is a businessman. We have no idea how much his site has made or how much it has paid out to developers, hosting fees, funding the faucet, etc. Even if he has done very well from the site, he doesn't owe you the right to use a faucet on his site indefinitely.

It has been pretty clear that the site has been having trouble running smoothly at various times through its life. I get the impression that it has been better recently, but even then there have been problems with the chat lagging. Now maybe that's a good old fashioned DDoSing, but maybe the hoards of faucet users doesn't help either. If they're also overwhelming the support people with their calls free money then maybe it does make business sense to knock it on the head.

Made a large reply to this but I previewed it and went back it was gone. Even if it's smaller than any of the other popular sites (which btw? PD3 pretty much monopoly now) it's still fortune amounts.

Just gonna say this: I don't think Stunna is a bad guy like most of you seems to believe.

If you don't think Stunna is a bad guy then I really don't see what point you're trying to make.

Sigh.... I think some of his decisions are bad.

None of these ideas that you have about Stunna help further the community in any way.  Especially when you have no proof on his lack of credibility.

[alabamafan1]

We have 5 pages of people bitching about faucet payouts. Oh boo hoo go do some damn surveys you'll make more money doing that then you ever would with the damn faucet. Good for you stuns on shutting it down. I'm completely for the decision.

[sickhouse]

Sigh.... I think some of his decisions are bad.

None of these ideas that you have about Stunna help further the community in any way.  Especially when you have no proof on his lack of credibility.

Read my previous posts in this thread to see the ideas. They would help the site, so stfu before you look into what you are stating. Don't bother replying to this, I cba to argue with people who doesn't know what they are talking about. Made several PM:s, mails as well as the ideas I've posted a couple of days earlier as well as a couple of weeks.

[Cyrax89721]

Sigh.... I think some of his decisions are bad.

None of these ideas that you have about Stunna help further the community in any way.  Especially when you have no proof on his lack of credibility.

Read my previous posts in this thread to see the ideas. They would help the site, so stfu before you look into what you are stating. Don't bother replying to this, I cba to argue with people who doesn't know what they are talking about. Made several PM:s, mails as well as the ideas I've posted a couple of days earlier as well as a couple of weeks.

I'm not talking about your ideas for the site, which are indeed just as valid as any of the other ideas in this thread.  I'm talking about your personal attacks against Stunna, calling him greedy and not caring about the community, etc.

[DiamondCardz]

At the end of the day the world isn't perfect and life isn't fair. PD is a business. But this issue isn't about the BTC being spent, hence why Stunna is asking for suggestions to replace it. It's about the phenomenon of a particular demographic of the BTC community leading to two main things:

• A lot of the people who show up on the HR list frequently dislike speaking in chat due to the spam they receive asking for BTC/tips. Even those who do speak in chat get VERY pissed off by it. I have spoken to a HR who got very pissed off when people who he had already tipped started asking him for more BTC.
• The support spam. It is not as simple as "let one of the mods deal with it". It is not professional, it is not reliable as they're volunteers, and it's not fair on the mod. Hence why Admins deal with support and the Mods just tell people to go to the Admins - they're the guys who can actually help you. Admins have a large toolbox and can answer pretty much 100% of support emails. Mods...nope.

The surge of people complaining about this possible change proves my point. Slight note, I've only seen 1 person who is Full Member+ and is against the removal of faucet.

[Cyrax89721]

Diamond, can I get your take on my idea one page back?

[beber456]

Personnaly nothing changed for me , yesterday my faucet was at 1390 sat and today  its the same amount ...only the captcha changed ...
btw i dont play a lot on Primedice, im "only" level 16 but im quite interesting on PD update or politics ...