Can maths help you win in gambling ?

[DPrillio]

Partly yes,math can help you win but not 100% sure.it will just help you compute all the angles and calculate the rate of winning..expert gambler calculating all the movements and reactions of thier opponents to take advantage,and it applies math in calculating

It depends upon what kinds of game we've play, like in playing game cards its is not necessary to be a math expert to win the game because all it needs is only addition and cards comprehension to be able to play reasonably. but for some games in online that are computer generated that is the very hard to calculate since the computer generates a millions of random sequence, so where is the math for that?  i think it was used by the game developer prior the creation of the game.

[JL421]

Absolutely, no. It is not a code that you can crack or an algebra equation that you will find the value of x because if it is, math wizards will make casino owners bankrupt and no one would ever build a casino or gambling sites anymore.

casino will never be backrupt they always have a backup code incase a person has
a really good luck they will instantly switch to non fair game and he will start losing
and finally get addicted and give a profit to the site. there hasnt been any casino which
got a loss

[leex1528]

This is sort of an odd question, and I haven't read people stating this in this thread, which is the correct answer. 

Math of course can help you improve your chances of winning.  The problem is, even though you improve your chance, it still not a positive % that you are going to win, or the expected value is still negative, meaning, the more you play the more likely you are to lose.  But yes, Math absolutely improves your chances of winning.   

[The_prodigy]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

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It can increase the percentage of winning highly. And for some gamblers or mostly for gamblers upping the percentage is something that can help them to play and win better. That is why some math geniuses make it look rasy on this.

[BlackPanda]

This is sort of an odd question, and I haven't read people stating this in this thread, which is the correct answer. 

Math of course can help you improve your chances of winning.  The problem is, even though you improve your chance, it still not a positive % that you are going to win, or the expected value is still negative, meaning, the more you play the more likely you are to lose.  But yes, Math absolutely improves your chances of winning.   

I do not think mathematics can determine victory in the gambling game. mathematics can not show us that gambling is a sure thing, mathematics is just a calculation and it will not apply to gambling games. gambling game is very influential to luck so we can not see what will happen in the future. gambling game is unpredictable and it is a sure thing !! so if you do not want to take a high risk then I suggest never to play gambling. gambling game only for those who dare to take risks and not afraid to lose the money they have.

[shintosai]

This is sort of an odd question, and I haven't read people stating this in this thread, which is the correct answer. 

Math of course can help you improve your chances of winning.  The problem is, even though you improve your chance, it still not a positive % that you are going to win, or the expected value is still negative, meaning, the more you play the more likely you are to lose.  But yes, Math absolutely improves your chances of winning.   

I do not think mathematics can determine victory in the gambling game. mathematics can not show us that gambling is a sure thing, mathematics is just a calculation and it will not apply to gambling games. gambling game is very influential to luck so we can not see what will happen in the future. gambling game is unpredictable and it is a sure thing !! so if you do not want to take a high risk then I suggest never to play gambling. gambling game only for those who dare to take risks and not afraid to lose the money they have.

There's some gamblers who still believe with martingales system that's how they see that math can help them allowing to try betting in a numbers of time and see if they can calculate the numbers of loses but even you think that you already anticipated what will the incoming results then after house will still unpredictable.

[expless]

No, gambling is purely based on sheer luck and little bit knowledge about technicalities, maths is nothing to do with gambling.

Gambling is attached with luck only. You can’t make anything from gambling if this is not your lucky day. On unlucky day, if you have come to know fortunately, don’t play. You don’t have to go to casino or online gambling sites because on that day you may lose everything that have been achieved from winning in gambling. Better is to leave this game as it is harmful for you.

[Wall-ET]

This article doesn't state that you can win at roulette by using math, it says this at the end:

We can dress up the layout of the wheel, the layout of the betting cloth, our number selection and our money management system however we like, but the maths is always there, quietly working against us. You might as well just have fun, pick random numbers and trust to Lady Luck. Either that, or do as Einstein suggested and steal chips (not that we’d recommend it).

So no, it's not possible to win at roulette just by using math.

For other games it's possible, but keep in mind that casino's are doing everything in their power to prevent you from doing so.
I'm thinking of blackjack specifically, they have security measures in place to prevent you from counting cards. If they even suspect you're doing this, they can ban you from the casino.

For pvp games like poker, you can effectively use math to gain an edge over other players though.

I think you are pretty wrong!

After all all games of chance are pure math (that is why they say math is working against you).

There is a way to gain better odds - this does not mean you will win 100%, just using math you could turn the odds in your favor.

The problem with casinos is that they have staff that knows math way too good, and their job is to find the strategies that can turn the odds around and to figure a way to stop them.
So if you create a roulette that is pure chance where it will land and has no protection against any strategies then you can beat that one.
In the casino they have min and max limit to eliminate most of the strategies. They also have other ways to interact once you start winning and they do not know how you do it.

So in real casino it will be hard to beat it, as it pays millions of millions to people to figure out how it can be bitten and to prevent it from happening.


Good luck gambling

Never forget the first tree rules of gambling:
The house allays wins!

[gabmen]

No, gambling is purely based on sheer luck and little bit knowledge about technicalities, maths is nothing to do with gambling.

Gambling is attached with luck only. You can’t make anything from gambling if this is not your lucky day. On unlucky day, if you have come to know fortunately, don’t play. You don’t have to go to casino or online gambling sites because on that day you may lose everything that have been achieved from winning in gambling. Better is to leave this game as it is harmful for you.

Nope. Its not just about that. Playing smartly would need doing the math. Perhaps not with the results or in game, which mostly depends on luck like dice, but for the entirery of your gambling. Like calculating hiw much you can afford to wager and what happens if you lose

[leex1528]

This is sort of an odd question, and I haven't read people stating this in this thread, which is the correct answer. 

Math of course can help you improve your chances of winning.  The problem is, even though you improve your chance, it still not a positive % that you are going to win, or the expected value is still negative, meaning, the more you play the more likely you are to lose.  But yes, Math absolutely improves your chances of winning.   

I do not think mathematics can determine victory in the gambling game. mathematics can not show us that gambling is a sure thing, mathematics is just a calculation and it will not apply to gambling games. gambling game is very influential to luck so we can not see what will happen in the future. gambling game is unpredictable and it is a sure thing !! so if you do not want to take a high risk then I suggest never to play gambling. gambling game only for those who dare to take risks and not afraid to lose the money they have.

Wrong, all games are based on math, there isn't a game in the casino that is not based on math.  Knowing the math can help improve your odds, but you will never be favored to win.  Look at basic strategy for Blackjack, the BETTER the player plays(according to math) the more he improves his chances to 50% win ratio, but they will never ever get to 50%, house always has the edge.

[Wall-ET]

This is sort of an odd question, and I haven't read people stating this in this thread, which is the correct answer. 

Math of course can help you improve your chances of winning.  The problem is, even though you improve your chance, it still not a positive % that you are going to win, or the expected value is still negative, meaning, the more you play the more likely you are to lose.  But yes, Math absolutely improves your chances of winning.   

I do not think mathematics can determine victory in the gambling game. mathematics can not show us that gambling is a sure thing, mathematics is just a calculation and it will not apply to gambling games. gambling game is very influential to luck so we can not see what will happen in the future. gambling game is unpredictable and it is a sure thing !! so if you do not want to take a high risk then I suggest never to play gambling. gambling game only for those who dare to take risks and not afraid to lose the money they have.

Wrong, all games are based on math, there isn't a game in the casino that is not based on math.  Knowing the math can help improve your odds, but you will never be favored to win.  Look at basic strategy for Blackjack, the BETTER the player plays(according to math) the more he improves his chances to 50% win ratio, but they will never ever get to 50%, house always has the edge.

Well counting cards (in the BJ example) does give you edge, that's why casino forbid it  in any possible way.

Also doing the math to see when you have bigger odds to win and then going BIG and when odds are low you go min bet, then you can have the odds in your favor.
Just watch 21 and you will see how it is done.

Remember that this will trow you out of the casino, as it is against house rules (exactly because it turns the odds in your favor and the house does not like that).


You can play all the games for fun and beat them each time, but in real casino, as I said few posts above, they do everything to figure them and forbit them and they ban anyone who try to use them in order to turn the odds in his favor

[J Gambler]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Mathematics is the key to have a chance at gambling because it enables you to be able to calculate the chances that you have to take or to know the odds of winning this by going through it. Math helps you see what cards are left and the chances of what you can draw thus can help build a strategy

[marlboroza]

This is sort of an odd question, and I haven't read people stating this in this thread, which is the correct answer. 

Math of course can help you improve your chances of winning.  The problem is, even though you improve your chance, it still not a positive % that you are going to win, or the expected value is still negative, meaning, the more you play the more likely you are to lose.  But yes, Math absolutely improves your chances of winning.   

I do not think mathematics can determine victory in the gambling game. mathematics can not show us that gambling is a sure thing, mathematics is just a calculation and it will not apply to gambling games. gambling game is very influential to luck so we can not see what will happen in the future. gambling game is unpredictable and it is a sure thing !! so if you do not want to take a high risk then I suggest never to play gambling. gambling game only for those who dare to take risks and not afraid to lose the money they have.

Wrong, all games are based on math, there isn't a game in the casino that is not based on math.  Knowing the math can help improve your odds, but you will never be favored to win.  Look at basic strategy for Blackjack, the BETTER the player plays(according to math) the more he improves his chances to 50% win ratio, but they will never ever get to 50%, house always has the edge.

Well counting cards (in the BJ example) does give you edge, that's why casino forbid it  in any possible way.

Also doing the math to see when you have bigger odds to win and then going BIG and when odds are low you go min bet, then you can have the odds in your favor.
Just watch 21 and you will see how it is done.

Remember that this will trow you out of the casino, as it is against house rules (exactly because it turns the odds in your favor and the house does not like that).


You can play all the games for fun and beat them each time, but in real casino, as I said few posts above, they do everything to figure them and forbit them and they ban anyone who try to use them in order to turn the odds in his favor

Counting cards requires good memory. Math won't help you if you can't remember cards.

Mathematics is the key to have a chance at gambling because it enables you to be able to calculate the chances that you have to take or to know the odds of winning this by going through it. Math helps you see what cards are left and the chances of what you can draw thus can help build a strategy

Ok, and when you do calculate your odds and realize that house has advantage over you, how is math going to help you to win?

[Hhampuz]

I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440

Mathematics is the key to have a chance at gambling because it enables you to be able to calculate the chances that you have to take or to know the odds of winning this by going through it. Math helps you see what cards are left and the chances of what you can draw thus can help build a strategy

For sure.. The best math you can use though, (Everyone can even count on this one, it's not that hard), is: Can I win?: Yes. Can I lose?: Yes. So basically it's 50/50. Good enough odds for me.. Well after the house take their 1-2% edge and you end up with 49/49 or so. Close enough to call it fifty fifty haha.

[Cosbycoin]

Yes, when the game is all about numbers and you have super natural mind that can calculate the probable result of the game. But in sport, analysis is really needed.

Wait a minute, calculation of results?
Last time I checked no matter you do you can't calculate outcome.
Are you sure you are talking about gambling?

Ofcourse maths helps you to win the game because math is also knowledge and we all know that knowing math is also knowledge and knowledge is always needed to win the game.

And earth is round because earth is round and we all know that earth is round. LOL!

In which game math helped you to win?

No you haven’t proved your statement well enough .There is no any type of gambling which requires you to be good at math for confirming your success. Al that you need is a great amount of good luck and also focus when you are playing games such as dice or poker. If anyone is good at math, then all that is better for him quick calculations of the loss and profit and nothing else.

I myself have experienced this that even if I am not liking math much as a subject, I have made to earn much via gambling through the dice games.

[justspare]

Yes, when the game is all about numbers and you have super natural mind that can calculate the probable result of the game. But in sport, analysis is really needed.

I figured that out recently  even a super computer cannot calculate the probable results and i understand your pun . There are some cards games that you could win if you have a sharp mind and some good calculations ,other than that math wont help you in gambling,it is all about your luck,when it comes to sporting events you can have the closest probability but not a certain win.

Math cannot help you win gambling at all. At least not according to my experience I have been good at math in the high school but when I started to gamble probably few years back, I found that there are no any sort of strategies that could be applied to win the game if opponent player has luck by his side. So all one needs is luck.

Yes the math could help him to calculate his losses and wins and moreover, it is an easy way to enhance your mental skills and focus on the game that could to some extent improve the chances of winning.

[Hhampuz]

Yes, when the game is all about numbers and you have super natural mind that can calculate the probable result of the game. But in sport, analysis is really needed.

I figured that out recently  even a super computer cannot calculate the probable results and i understand your pun . There are some cards games that you could win if you have a sharp mind and some good calculations ,other than that math wont help you in gambling,it is all about your luck,when it comes to sporting events you can have the closest probability but not a certain win.

Math cannot help you win gambling at all. At least not according to my experience I have been good at math in the high school but when I started to gamble probably few years back, I found that there are no any sort of strategies that could be applied to win the game if opponent player has luck by his side. So all one needs is luck.

Yes the math could help him to calculate his losses and wins and moreover, it is an easy way to enhance your mental skills and focus on the game that could to some extent improve the chances of winning.

It's not as much hardcore math as it is statistics and probability, but they do go hand in hand with maths so in the bigger picture I guess you can say that maths can help you win in gambling, but don't bank on it! Luck is always a factor as well as off days etc.. (depending on what you are gambling on).

[sparveenat]

To win in gambling not only maths will help you have to apply on the right timing and at the right move. Otherwise maths has no use in gambling to win. To win in gambling along with maths smartness and the strategic move only lead you to win.

[Wall-ET]

Well counting cards (in the BJ example) does give you edge, that's why casino forbid it  in any possible way.

Also doing the math to see when you have bigger odds to win and then going BIG and when odds are low you go min bet, then you can have the odds in your favor.
Just watch 21 and you will see how it is done.

Remember that this will trow you out of the casino, as it is against house rules (exactly because it turns the odds in your favor and the house does not like that).


You can play all the games for fun and beat them each time, but in real casino, as I said few posts above, they do everything to figure them and forbit them and they ban anyone who try to use them in order to turn the odds in his favor

Counting cards requires good memory. Math won't help you if you can't remember cards.

If you can not remember 1+1 = 2
The math will not work for you...

Counting cards gives you the input for the math you need to do to see the odds.

btw counting cards is just starting from 0 and doing math +1 or -1 => didn't know you do not know what card counting is and still try to make smart comments

[Hhampuz]

Well counting cards (in the BJ example) does give you edge, that's why casino forbid it  in any possible way.

Also doing the math to see when you have bigger odds to win and then going BIG and when odds are low you go min bet, then you can have the odds in your favor.
Just watch 21 and you will see how it is done.

Remember that this will trow you out of the casino, as it is against house rules (exactly because it turns the odds in your favor and the house does not like that).


You can play all the games for fun and beat them each time, but in real casino, as I said few posts above, they do everything to figure them and forbit them and they ban anyone who try to use them in order to turn the odds in his favor

Counting cards requires good memory. Math won't help you if you can't remember cards.

If you can not remember 1+1 = 2
The math will not work for you...

Counting cards gives you the input for the math you need to do to see the odds.

btw counting cards is just starting from 0 and doing math +1 or -1 => didn't know you do not know what card counting is and still try to make smart comments

Most people don't really know what card counting is.. They've seen some movie or heard some story and they think that only rainman can do it... It's not simple, I won't say that but it's not rocket science either.