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December 21, 2017, 06:47:19 AM
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Well all gambling games without exceptions, have probabilities in them and grasping that concept is what will make you win more. Math is a powerful tool and it could make a beginner guy have a better win ratio than someone who have been playing for a long time and doesnt have any clue in probabilties or statistics.
How math can help a gambler to win a game because as far as my knowledge is concerned, gambling is totally a luck dependent thing. It is just like crossing a river just by looking with your eyes on to other bank. If math really was so helpful for the gambler to win the game.

Then all gamblers who have a good knowledge of math would have never lost any game they have played in their lives. Math can only help the gambler to maintain his records.
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December 21, 2017, 02:03:46 PM
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I do not think that using math or other predictions you can win in gambling, and especially in roulette. There everything is designed for pleasure, not profit.


Yes, that's true. Even if you are very good in math, it will not help you to win the gambling game because in gambling it does not depend on how you play it. But it depends on your luck of winning. If you are really lucky on that day, then surely you will win but if you are not lucky, of course you will always lose the gambling game.
I don't agree with that, maybe we can give an exemption on luck based games as the name itself it's only based on luck, but the reality is there are people who are profitable in gambling so it's not possible to be in the same position they are enjoying. If we are good in math and we develop that then I believe we have a chance to win if we will play gambling which is skilled based games, of course there's lot of its kind but you have to focus only on one game.
Yes mths and calculation can be helpful but only in some formates of gambling. We cannot depend on our calculation, experience and trading skill, because in some gambling games we need our good luck where we totally depend on our luck. For example in slots and dice gambling and in lottery we are totally depend on our luck and our calculation cannot play any role there. While in sports gambling there we we need to have some calculation and knowledge about the teams and their players if we want to get the expected result from sports gambling.
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December 21, 2017, 07:30:59 PM
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Math/statistics can raise the odds of you winning as far as gambling. I'd never do the digital casino thing, though. I use online for sportsbetting and go to a casino for anything else. Good luck!
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December 21, 2017, 08:10:50 PM
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interesting😃... sometimes it helps because in gambling you need to be alert also in figure, it makes sense when you’re good in mathematics because usually a gambler is fast to calculate on figures, therefore yes math can also help in some ways, but of course in gmbling, Luck also plays role always, because if it is your lucky day day, it should be your win day too😃
I completely agree with your saying that gambling is completely luck based thing. If you are lucky person, you will enjoy gambling and if the case is opposite then there will be no bigger hatter of gambling seen than you in the market. As far as my knowledge of gambling is concerned, there is no math formula introduced in the market which can be applied on gambling and the loser can become the winner.
no math formula of course to make you always win in gambling , it is so delusional.

people frustrated to have too much lost , they looking for an excuse and think that math with statistics , data and several calculation could really help you out from a losing streak. i don't know for sure if there is a real gambling math, all i know gambling are -EV, that's all.

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December 21, 2017, 11:46:24 PM
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Math/statistics can raise the odds of you winning as far as gambling. I'd never do the digital casino thing, though. I use online for sportsbetting and go to a casino for anything else. Good luck!

Yeah I definitely agree in this, maths can help when it comes to sports betting and some card games (poker). As far as slot games go.. I wouldn't trust any system when it comes to that! Roulette and black jack i only play at land based casinos.

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December 21, 2017, 11:56:41 PM
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I just read one article that's about math can help you win at roulette game then i want ask with you all, did you believe math can affect to gambling games? i'm not expert in math so i don't know


this is the article that i readed.
http://theconversation.com/can-maths-help-you-win-at-roulette-69440
Maybe they computed the force they put on the roulette game. But it will not always on the math, being lucky and unlucky in the game. We can't predict and analyze the situation when you are in the game. You have high intensity by playing the games and gambling. You can't solve by math by winning those games like roulette, bet hi-lo and etc.













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December 22, 2017, 04:17:36 AM
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In poker games, math can be used to measure card speculation owned by other players, we can think tactically for the potential probabilities that will appear in every last round of cards. math in speculation is very important and we must understand it well, many people just rely on intuition, it is not an important factor but still potentially better.
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December 22, 2017, 04:19:43 AM
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Sure thing math helps when gambling, maybe not the actual math but being number friendly is a huge advantage
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December 22, 2017, 05:44:34 AM
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How math can help a gambler to win a game because as far as my knowledge is concerned, gambling is totally a luck dependent thing. It is just like crossing a river just by looking with your eyes on to other bank. If math really was so helpful for the gambler to win the game.

Then all gamblers who have a good knowledge of math would have never lost any game they have played in their lives. Math can only help the gambler to maintain his records.

It does not mean that you cant los eif you are good in math but it means that you have a good chance to know your chance. It is like you are going to have better knowledge of your chances so you could make better decision to stop or to continue. Although I think that most gambler will not bother with this kind of thing as they will choose to continue
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December 22, 2017, 06:05:56 AM
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How math can help a gambler to win a game because as far as my knowledge is concerned, gambling is totally a luck dependent thing. It is just like crossing a river just by looking with your eyes on to other bank. If math really was so helpful for the gambler to win the game.

Then all gamblers who have a good knowledge of math would have never lost any game they have played in their lives. Math can only help the gambler to maintain his records.

It does not mean that you cant los eif you are good in math but it means that you have a good chance to know your chance. It is like you are going to have better knowledge of your chances so you could make better decision to stop or to continue. Although I think that most gambler will not bother with this kind of thing as they will choose to continue
math is one of the sciences that can predict every possible number out, the possibilities of winning in which the math can reasonably afford, because the online casino is created by the system, and the system has a code in which there is a count. and may be predicted by some people
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December 22, 2017, 09:23:49 AM
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How math can help a gambler to win a game because as far as my knowledge is concerned, gambling is totally a luck dependent thing. It is just like crossing a river just by looking with your eyes on to other bank. If math really was so helpful for the gambler to win the game.

Then all gamblers who have a good knowledge of math would have never lost any game they have played in their lives. Math can only help the gambler to maintain his records.

It does not mean that you cant los eif you are good in math but it means that you have a good chance to know your chance. It is like you are going to have better knowledge of your chances so you could make better decision to stop or to continue. Although I think that most gambler will not bother with this kind of thing as they will choose to continue
math is one of the sciences that can predict every possible number out, the possibilities of winning in which the math can reasonably afford, because the online casino is created by the system, and the system has a code in which there is a count. and may be predicted by some people

Yes you can predict all possible number that would come out, but that doesn't change the fact that you cannot predict which number will come out on your next roll. The only thing you have is a set of possible numbers and nothing more than that. I guess that's the only thing being good at math can do. It may help in poker, like knowing the chance your hand will win but in games like dice, it's nothing.
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December 22, 2017, 10:14:01 AM
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How math can help a gambler to win a game because as far as my knowledge is concerned, gambling is totally a luck dependent thing. It is just like crossing a river just by looking with your eyes on to other bank. If math really was so helpful for the gambler to win the game.

Then all gamblers who have a good knowledge of math would have never lost any game they have played in their lives. Math can only help the gambler to maintain his records.

It does not mean that you cant los eif you are good in math but it means that you have a good chance to know your chance. It is like you are going to have better knowledge of your chances so you could make better decision to stop or to continue. Although I think that most gambler will not bother with this kind of thing as they will choose to continue
math is one of the sciences that can predict every possible number out, the possibilities of winning in which the math can reasonably afford, because the online casino is created by the system, and the system has a code in which there is a count. and may be predicted by some people

Yes you can predict all possible number that would come out, but that doesn't change the fact that you cannot predict which number will come out on your next roll. The only thing you have is a set of possible numbers and nothing more than that. I guess that's the only thing being good at math can do. It may help in poker, like knowing the chance your hand will win but in games like dice, it's nothing.

Well isn't it in Poker again JUST the possible outcomes, but not the actual outcome?!?

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December 23, 2017, 08:38:22 AM
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How math can help a gambler to win a game because as far as my knowledge is concerned, gambling is totally a luck dependent thing. It is just like crossing a river just by looking with your eyes on to other bank. If math really was so helpful for the gambler to win the game.

Then all gamblers who have a good knowledge of math would have never lost any game they have played in their lives. Math can only help the gambler to maintain his records.

It does not mean that you cant los eif you are good in math but it means that you have a good chance to know your chance. It is like you are going to have better knowledge of your chances so you could make better decision to stop or to continue. Although I think that most gambler will not bother with this kind of thing as they will choose to continue
math is one of the sciences that can predict every possible number out, the possibilities of winning in which the math can reasonably afford, because the online casino is created by the system, and the system has a code in which there is a count. and may be predicted by some people

Yes you can predict all possible number that would come out, but that doesn't change the fact that you cannot predict which number will come out on your next roll. The only thing you have is a set of possible numbers and nothing more than that. I guess that's the only thing being good at math can do. It may help in poker, like knowing the chance your hand will win but in games like dice, it's nothing.

Guessing is only just guessing, number is just always number and  it is not related to luck on what number would be the possible result. I do agree on you pal, you do have the possible numbers that will be the result but still you cant predict what will be the exact number that will show or that will result. You can calculate it with math with what is the highest percentage of result but still you dont know what is it.
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December 23, 2017, 04:59:36 PM
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How math can help a gambler to win a game because as far as my knowledge is concerned, gambling is totally a luck dependent thing. It is just like crossing a river just by looking with your eyes on to other bank. If math really was so helpful for the gambler to win the game.

Then all gamblers who have a good knowledge of math would have never lost any game they have played in their lives. Math can only help the gambler to maintain his records.

It does not mean that you cant los eif you are good in math but it means that you have a good chance to know your chance. It is like you are going to have better knowledge of your chances so you could make better decision to stop or to continue. Although I think that most gambler will not bother with this kind of thing as they will choose to continue
math is one of the sciences that can predict every possible number out, the possibilities of winning in which the math can reasonably afford, because the online casino is created by the system, and the system has a code in which there is a count. and may be predicted by some people

Yes you can predict all possible number that would come out, but that doesn't change the fact that you cannot predict which number will come out on your next roll. The only thing you have is a set of possible numbers and nothing more than that. I guess that's the only thing being good at math can do. It may help in poker, like knowing the chance your hand will win but in games like dice, it's nothing.

Even in poker knowing the probability of your hand to win in general doesn't help because you can't know what hands the other players have. I mean having full house you can't be sure that another player doesn't have a better full house or four of a kind (of course with some exceptions when you can be sure about that). I watched a game on youtube when one player with four of a kind, aces, lost to another player with straight flush. What are the odds? But still it happens.

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December 26, 2017, 07:55:15 AM
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interesting😃... sometimes it helps because in gambling you need to be alert also in figure, it makes sense when you’re good in mathematics because usually a gambler is fast to calculate on figures, therefore yes math can also help in some ways, but of course in gmbling, Luck also plays role always, because if it is your lucky day day, it should be your win day too😃
I completely agree with your saying that gambling is completely luck based thing. If you are lucky person, you will enjoy gambling and if the case is opposite then there will be no bigger hatter of gambling seen than you in the market. As far as my knowledge of gambling is concerned, there is no math formula introduced in the market which can be applied on gambling and the loser can become the winner.
Okay you just said here there that if you are lucky only then gambling will be profitable for you. Then tell me or just think how many days a person can be lucky? One or two in a week? Definitely yes, a person can never be lucky every day. Then what mathematics and what skills are there to be tested when one method is not there for you to help you. Gambling is worst of the worst.
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December 26, 2017, 08:57:40 AM
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it will only help in sport.. in casino game such as roulette,cards,etc there is no hope.. house always win  Grin
Exactly, math can only help you to make analysis and analysis are only useful in games like football, cricket etc. Beside this, math has no importance in the field of gambling. When we get a chance to go to casinos, we look that every person who is gambling wins after losing one or no games and if math was helpful in gambling, then people having good knowledge of math would have never lost any game.
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December 28, 2017, 10:39:30 PM
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I tried working in casino and there was only one french roulette inside. Everytime it was played, you cant guess where or what number the little ball will land. Im not so sure math can help when it comes to roulette. The rolling of the ball is spontinous. Maybe in a poker games and bacarat math can be use. And of course help of luck.
if math will work on it i guess the developers already tried and test any factors that will exposed the possibilities of winning using mathematically analysis,
i'm sure they won't let anybody to gain any chances of edge from what they've created so for me its still luck who can help you from winning in any types
of gambling.

Yeah, there would be a lot of mathematician who will become millioner then. Maybe it can help but in gambling you need to have skills togther with a luck to won the game. Machines were programmed, table games is different also. Thats why most of gambler believe in luck. Even if you very good in playing card games but if you are not lucky then you will lose it. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. You donf do the calculations while playing because you cant see their cards but maybe being good in math you are good in analysis.
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December 28, 2017, 11:07:41 PM
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I tried working in casino and there was only one french roulette inside. Everytime it was played, you cant guess where or what number the little ball will land. Im not so sure math can help when it comes to roulette. The rolling of the ball is spontinous. Maybe in a poker games and bacarat math can be use. And of course help of luck.
if math will work on it i guess the developers already tried and test any factors that will exposed the possibilities of winning using mathematically analysis,
i'm sure they won't let anybody to gain any chances of edge from what they've created so for me its still luck who can help you from winning in any types
of gambling.

Yeah, there would be a lot of mathematician who will become millioner then. Maybe it can help but in gambling you need to have skills togther with a luck to won the game. Machines were programmed, table games is different also. Thats why most of gambler believe in luck. Even if you very good in playing card games but if you are not lucky then you will lose it. Sometimes you win sometimes you lose. You donf do the calculations while playing because you cant see their cards but maybe being good in math you are good in analysis.

That is true, if math did help you win in gambling indeed there would be a lot of nerds that would have been millionaires due to just gambling. The thing is gambling is indeed mathematical because it heavily relies on statistics which is a branch of mathematical science. The thing is, there is no way a gambler can consistently win in a gambling game if there is house edge. Because every bet will result to a negative expected value which will result to losses in the long run.
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January 02, 2018, 01:10:27 PM
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it will only help in sport.. in casino game such as roulette,cards,etc there is no hope.. house always win  Grin
Exactly, math can only help you to make analysis and analysis are only useful in games like football, cricket etc. Beside this, math has no importance in the field of gambling. When we get a chance to go to casinos, we look that every person who is gambling wins after losing one or no games and if math was helpful in gambling, then people having good knowledge of math would have never lost any game.
I have heard from people who are close to me but are gamblers that math is not a key to win in gambling because gambling is something which involves a lot of luck and If math had some importance in gambling, then as you said no gambler having a sound knowledge of math have lost the game but everyone lose every day.
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January 02, 2018, 01:25:07 PM
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it will only help in sport.. in casino game such as roulette,cards,etc there is no hope.. house always win  Grin
Exactly, math can only help you to make analysis and analysis are only useful in games like football, cricket etc. Beside this, math has no importance in the field of gambling. When we get a chance to go to casinos, we look that every person who is gambling wins after losing one or no games and if math was helpful in gambling, then people having good knowledge of math would have never lost any game.
I have heard from people who are close to me but are gamblers that math is not a key to win in gambling because gambling is something which involves a lot of luck and If math had some importance in gambling, then as you said no gambler having a sound knowledge of math have lost the game but everyone lose every day.
I would prefer to say that gambling didn't make you win in gambling, it's just help you to decide whether are you okay to continue to gamble or just stop it for the better? Also math give you some predictions based on certain probability calculation which actually it's really helpful and effective to provide you a choice before making any decision to place a bet.

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