[BTC-TC] Deprived Mining Speculation (DMS)

[Anotheranonlol]

what happend to that kate woman ? she knew who deprived is?
didn't people lose money ? you guys are to nice.

Kate is not a woman it's a man..

[ft73]

what happend to that kate woman ? she knew who deprived is?
didn't people lose money ? you guys are to nice.

Kate is not a woman it's a man..

She gladly signs her messages as "The Silicon Queen", hence i think she consider herself as a woman.
However that's not important i guess, better keeping sex out of equation.

[BitThink]

what happend to that kate woman ? she knew who deprived is?
didn't people lose money ? you guys are to nice.

As far as I know, she's running too.

At least, she is still active in the CipherTrade thread of LiteTalk.

BTW, I've asked there about deprived and they (the CipherTrade guys) said that deprived has never contacted them these days at all. (EDIT: added 'these days' to avoid misleading. They admitted that they have close contacts before deprived played disappearing.)

[BitThink]

what happend to that kate woman ? she knew who deprived is?
didn't people lose money ? you guys are to nice.

Kate is not a woman it's a man..

She was a man, but later changed to a woman.  Kate Craig-Wood is quite famous and you can find her story by googling very easily. Moreover, she is listed in Wikipedia too.

Therefore, I don't think she can run away easily considering many people know almost everything about her.

[NotLambchop]

...
BTW, I've asked there about deprived and they (the CipherTrade guys) said that deprived has never contacted them at all.

"Verily I say unto thee, That this night, before the cock crow, thou shalt deny me thrice."--KJV

[BitThink]

What is stopping further investigation of Deprived?

Apathy + Resignation.

+ Probable uneconomical outcome :-(

I guess it will stay dormant as long as the funds stay so

Agree. The best bet of deprived is that the BTC price never rise to a level that the value of lost BTC becomes large enough to hire lawyers and detectives. If I were him, I would pay the debt when it is still affordable.

[JohnWasser]

Just did some calculations and it looks like back dividends are something close to:
   0.00034120 per Mining or Purchase
   0.00200077  per Selling or Purchase

As of October 25th there were 163054 "Effective Units" outstanding.  That means DMS is about 382 BTC behind on dividend payments.

I finally got around to updating my spreadsheet.

Amount of unpaid dividends as of July 18th, 2014:

   0.00032901   Per MINING or PURCHASE
   0.00216280   Per SELLING or PURCHASE
      
   Effective Units   163054   
   Total back dividends owed:   406.29997924 Bitcoin

[junkonator]

   0.00034120 per Mining or Purchase

   0.00032901   Per MINING or PURCHASE

Mining got less?

[JohnWasser]

   0.00034120 per Mining or Purchase

   0.00032901   Per MINING or PURCHASE

Mining got less?

Back in March, when I first did the calculation, I accidentally forgot to count the 7-day advance dividends that Deprived paid out to MINING on October 26th.  Those 7 days came to 0.00004503 so the number back in March should have been 0.00029617.  That means that from March to July, each MINING share would have made 0.00003284 in dividends.

[smoothie]

I would expect there's more than enough btc in the wallet to bring DMS.MINING up to date, which should be Deprived's first priority.

It's anyone's guess when CIPHERMINE.B1 will be liquid or redeemable so I'm not sure what the go is there. I've given up waiting for the exchange and I'm trying to get mine redeemed.

I am glad you are OK Deprived, but you've aged me. If you disappear again I'll be resuming my inquiries to identify you, as you should expect.

I can say even without access to the spreadsheets that there's enough cash to bring MINING up to date - based purely on where difficulty now is.  In fact I'm certain there'll also be an immediate cash dividend due on SELLING.

On CipherermINE.B1 I'll comment further when I'm sober and home on Saturday.

As far as my identity and reason for absence is concerned I'll also be commenting - and taking some steps to avoid a recurrence of the recent situation.  In principle I've no objection to revealing my identity to you (and other larger investors) : running off with your investment is not (and never has been) something I've intended.

If anyone has demonstrable losses caused by my absence (by which I mean actual costs incurred - not "I could have sold when BTC was 1200 if DMS had been relisted and CIPHERMINE.B1 had traded at face value") then I'm fine with covering them.  Lack of funds was never (and isn't) an issue for me.

I suppose "Saturday" never came yet in his part of the world. 

I'm sure there are several if not dozens of people waiting for their BTC and funds etc.

[smoothie]

Not at home (and fairly drunk) so can't lookup figures

Off to bed now before work tomorrow -will try to touch base

I havent done (and  can't presently do) any of the math

So not only do you imagine it's okay to disappear for months at a time exposing a gaping lack of any sort of failsafe or planning, but the idea is that it's also okay to come back drunk, without data, and with a pile of maybes and vague assertions of somehow wiping up after yourself later?

The abhorrent lack of discipline among wannabe securities issuers in BTC is not some sort of lower bound that you can adopt and still be taken seriously. Adopting this is the wave of a certain banner, recognizable to anyone without their heads up their asses, ostensibly recognizable at one point to yourself.

So long as it isn't impossible due to block-chain limitations ALL outstanding dividends WILL be paid promptly (subject to confirming the email/BTC addresses) so any judgment of what's fair has to be made on that basis.

You are not in a position to decree what's fair any more than you're in a position to allude to other people's failures. You've got those months' worth of explaining (with data, not later, not when you magically access some piece of equipment, not drunk, not truncated for the sake of some irrelevant task on the horizon) to do --start there. You've made quite sure that's the only place to start that you've got.

I would never have guessed I would ever do this, but I totally agree with MPOE-PR.

This attitude of "hey I've been away for months, now I'm drunk" is so insane I cannot help but thinking he's doing it on purpose. Which purpose, I've no idea, since it does not make sense. Acting like everything's ok and normal is... I'm not sure I even have the words for that.

Him coming back in March after all of the talks of finding him was to keep people at bay and not thinking about taking legal action.

Obviously he did not want to tell people why he was gone for so long. If it walks like a scammer and talks like a scammer...it probably is one.

[smoothie]

Anyone who is owed funds from Deprived should at least leave negative trust rating on his forum profile.

[tekke]

 If it walks like a scammer and talks like a scammer...it probably is one.

I think exactly like you. And this is why a lot of people stays away of the unregulated crypto world. You can trust no one

[smoothie]

 If it walks like a scammer and talks like a scammer...it probably is one.

I think exactly like you. And this is why a lot of people stays away of the unregulated crypto world. You can trust no one

Which is the same reason why I never thought to invest in a "Bitcoin Security". What a bunch of nonsense.

90-95% of all that are created end up scamming their investors of funds.

Deprived is no different. I'm although shocked that he would do it given he had a good track record then as Bitcoin was on the heels of $1000 he went ....P00F and disappeared.

[smoothie]

I left him negative trust:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=40149

I suggest people who are owed funds from him do the same.

[Bonam]

Left negative trust as well. Deprived is a shameless scammer right along with all the worst thieves and criminals in bitcoin security history.

[Inquirer]

Empty words to keep people off your back?

Have some agency, man. Clean this mess up and pay what people are owed. You put the time and effort in to setting it up, and running it somewhat professionally, you can take the time to see it through. You probably made money from bitcoin, but it is the community that got bitcoin where it is, so you owe the community. It is not right to enjoy your profits while good honest members of the crypto community that put the whole thing where it is, get shafted. You know this.

[Inquirer]

Oh and also, I think people should get back on track with finding out who he really is, where he lives, and what his status is. I am from the UK, so willing to assist with what I can. It's time we went after these scoundrels and made them accountable. That's the point of crypto and the blockchain right? Unrelenting, provable accountability. The difficult part is getting the guilty parties to act on it - everyone knows and can see their shenanigans, but we always fall short of actually MAKING them accountable.

[twentyseventy]

Empty words to keep people off your back?

Have some agency, man. Clean this mess up and pay what people are owed. You put the time and effort in to setting it up, and running it somewhat professionally, you can take the time to see it through. You probably made money from bitcoin, but it is the community that got bitcoin where it is, so you owe the community. It is not right to enjoy your profits while good honest members of the crypto community that put the whole thing where it is, get shafted. You know this.

That quote from Deprived was back from March, the last time he showed up. Leaving negative trust won't do anything either, but you guys go ahead if it will make you feel better - I don't know if there is much that you can do-

[smoothie]

Oh and also, I think people should get back on track with finding out who he really is, where he lives, and what his status is. I am from the UK, so willing to assist with what I can. It's time we went after these scoundrels and made them accountable. That's the point of crypto and the blockchain right? Unrelenting, provable accountability. The difficult part is getting the guilty parties to act on it - everyone knows and can see their shenanigans, but we always fall short of actually MAKING them accountable.

What baffles me is how people can send so many coins to a supposedly anonymous person. Do you give out unsecured loans to random strangers who you meet for the first time?