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September 14, 2013, 12:02:57 PM
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The computer it was running on decided to reset overnight.  Probably some windows update or similar - will check settings as I usually disable all automated updates.

It's running again now and has cleared all outstanding orders.
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September 14, 2013, 03:07:44 PM
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Dividends paid about an hour early as previously mentioned.  Back to normal schedule tomorrow - looks like difficulty rise will be just after midnight so SELLING dividend won't be until Monday (though still possible it could sneak in before midnight and get dividend tomorrow).

I'll be out for the next 9 hours or so - so if bot stops working it won't get fixed until I get back home.

Sold   372
Swapped   0
Total   372
Price   0.01196
Total   4.44912
Less Fee   4.44022176
Man Fee   0.133206653

BTC Balance (BTC-TC)   1389.168424
9071 LTC-ATF.B1    90.71000000
CIPHERMINE Bonds    384.34000000
Coinlenders CD 27/9   202.1092334
Coinlenders Cash   0
Just-Dice Balance    247.90000000
TOTAL ASSETS    2,314.22765697
   
Outstanding MINING   192990
Outstanding SELLING   192990
Outstanding PURCHASE   10203
Effective Units   203193
   
Block reward   25
Difficulty   86,933,018
Hashes per MINING   5000000
   
Daily Dividend    0.00002892
50 days (Min Liquid)    0.00144625
100 days (Forced Close)    0.00289249
365 days (Buyback)    0.01055760
405 days (IPO)    0.01171460
400 days (Post SELLING div)    0.01156998
410 days (Pre SELLING div)    0.01185923
   
NAV Post MINING Div    2,308.35031103
NAV/U Post MINING Div    0.01136038
Days Dividend Post Div   392.75
SELLING Dividend    -         
NAV Post SELLING Div    2,308.35031103
NAV/U Post Selling Div    0.01136038
PURCHASE selling price    0.01193
PURCHASE buy-back price    0.01113
   
J-D House profit at report   6407
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September 14, 2013, 10:33:06 PM
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The difficulty change will be on Saturday GMT, but on Sunday GMT+1 where London is in summer. Which of them applies?
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September 15, 2013, 12:31:53 AM
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The difficulty jump happened before the deadline by about 15 minutes I think, meaning the dividend is tomorrow
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September 15, 2013, 01:14:16 AM
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The difficulty change will be on Saturday GMT, but on Sunday GMT+1 where London is in summer. Which of them applies?

GMT is what the contract says so if youre correct dividend will be SUnday.  I cant check for sure as not home yet.
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September 15, 2013, 02:04:37 AM
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Back home now - and yes, SELLING dividend gets paid today.  As difficulty change was (just) before midnight GMT, MINING get the old dividend but DMS only pays the new one and the difference is paid by me personally.

Here's my estimate of what will happen (includes the LTC-ATF.B1 weekly dividend which I'll be paying shortly but doesn't allow for any changes in J-D investment or gain from sales/repurchases of PURCHASE).

BTC Balance (BTC-TC)   1385.2
9071 LTC-ATF.B1    90.71000000
CIPHERMINE Bonds    384.34000000
Coinlenders CD 27/9   202.1092334
Coinlenders Cash   0
Just-Dice Balance    247.90000000
TOTAL ASSETS    2,310.25923340
   
Outstanding MINING   192990
Outstanding SELLING   192990
Outstanding PURCHASE   10203
Effective Units   203193
   
Block reward   25
Difficulty   112,628,549
Hashes per MINING   5000000
   
Daily Dividend    0.00002233
50 days (Min Liquid)    0.00111629
100 days (Forced Close)    0.00223259
365 days (Buyback)    0.00814895
405 days (IPO)    0.00904199
400 days (Post SELLING div)    0.00893036
410 days (Pre SELLING div)    0.00915361
   
NAV Post MINING Div    2,305.72276885
NAV/U Post MINING Div    0.01134745
Days Dividend Post Div   508.26
SELLING Dividend    0.00241710
NAV Post SELLING Div    1,814.58582167
NAV/U Post Selling Div    0.00893036
PURCHASE selling price    0.009377
PURCHASE buy-back price    0.008752

EDIT: Have added 1 more digit precision to PURCHASE selling/buy-back prices as BTC-TC should support that now price will be going below .01
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September 15, 2013, 04:13:23 PM
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Sold   2428
Swapped   0
Total   2428
Price   0.01193
Total   28.96604
Less Fee   28.90810792
Man Fee   0.867243238
   
Units   205621
Excess Div   0.00000659
Refund   1.35504239

BTC Balance (BTC-TC)   1413.982673
9071 LTC-ATF.B1    90.71000000
CIPHERMINE Bonds    382.34000000
Coinlenders CD 27/9   202.2378083
Coinlenders Cash   0
Just-Dice Balance    248.10000000
TOTAL ASSETS    2,337.37048141
   
Outstanding MINING   195423
Outstanding SELLING   195423
Outstanding PURCHASE   10198
Effective Units   205621
   
Block reward   25
Difficulty   112,628,549
Hashes per MINING   5000000
   
Daily Dividend    0.00002233
50 days (Min Liquid)    0.00111629
100 days (Forced Close)    0.00223259
365 days (Buyback)    0.00814895
405 days (IPO)    0.00904199
400 days (Post SELLING div)    0.00893036
410 days (Pre SELLING div)    0.00915361
   
NAV Post MINING Div    2,332.77980960
NAV/U Post MINING Div    0.01134505
Days Dividend Post Div   508.16
SELLING Dividend    0.00241469
NAV Post SELLING Div    1,836.26872598
NAV/U Post Selling Div    0.00893036
PURCHASE selling price    0.009377
PURCHASE buy-back price    0.008752
   
J-D House profit at report   6442

Looks like I very slightly overestimated SELLING dividend last night.  Think I used current balance by mistake when some PURCHASE had already been sold.  It was still very close and not a bad guess for having just got back home at 3am.
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September 15, 2013, 04:16:42 PM
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I'll have to pull back some of our J-D investment to get back to the allowed 10%.  Will see what (if any) immediate trades there are on PURCHASE then do a withdrawal a bit later.  Looking like will need to withdraw about 50 BTC.
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September 15, 2013, 04:53:39 PM
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Seems we are back to June prices with people buying MINING > 0.0024

13% average difficulty rise per jump in the next weeks.... seems legit!  Cheesy
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September 15, 2013, 05:12:37 PM
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Seems we are back to June prices with people buying MINING > 0.0024

13% average difficulty rise per jump in the next weeks.... seems legit!  Cheesy

It's not June prices - MINING was trading at .024 then (different number of 0s after decimal place).
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September 15, 2013, 05:52:42 PM
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I don't mean the exact prices, but a MINING price that assumes future average difficulty jumps < 13%. The opportunities for SELLING are getting better again, nearly as good as back in June. That's what I meant.
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September 15, 2013, 06:02:17 PM
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Hey, just got this by email:

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Hello,

A notification has been posted to DMS.SELLING.  You have received this email
because you own shares of DMS.SELLING.

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TRADING HALTED ON DMS.SELLING

TRADING HAS BEEN HALTED ON DMS.SELLING BY THE ISSUER.
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Thank you for using BTC-TC

Anyone care to explain what it means?
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September 15, 2013, 06:09:31 PM
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Trading is stopped after every difficulty change. Deprived needs to change the price of PURCHASE. Nothing to worry about.
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September 15, 2013, 06:24:39 PM
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^ thanks, this was the first difficulty change after I bought SELLING...
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September 15, 2013, 11:33:01 PM
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Gotta say that bot putting ask prices 0,000004 lower than your last input is fucking annoying.
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September 16, 2013, 05:00:33 AM
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Gotta say that bot putting ask prices 0,000004 lower than your last input is fucking annoying.

It's 0.000001 lower than the previous lowest ask, not 0.00004.
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September 16, 2013, 08:18:40 AM
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That's not what it was doing to me, but it hardly matters. Where can I buy it?Shocked))
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September 16, 2013, 12:52:36 PM
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That's not what it was doing to me, but it hardly matters. Where can I buy it?Shocked))

Hmm, then maybe you ran into someone elses bot. Mine only camps the SELLING-asks (and only when my laptop is running and the expected profitability is high enough).

Anyway, it's not for sale. It only operates with a very specific algorithm, and there is very little liquidity there, so having multiple bots doing the same thing would be pointless. I'd have to sell it for more than it is expected to earn. And if I was into that sort of shady business, I'd just start my own PMB Tongue

If you're interested in automated trading and have some programming experience, you can use my freely available library for BTC-TC to create your own bot or trading-software: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=291922.0
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September 16, 2013, 04:04:31 PM
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Sold   8849
Swapped   0
Total   8849
Price   0.009377
Total   82.977073
Less Fee   82.81111885
Man Fee   2.484333566

BTC Balance (BTC-TC)   994.6788181
9071 LTC-ATF.B1    90.71000000
CIPHERMINE Bonds    382.34000000
Coinlenders CD 27/9   202.3603714
Coinlenders Cash   0
Just-Dice Balance    247.55800000
TOTAL ASSETS    1,917.64718947
   
Outstanding MINING   204057
Outstanding SELLING   204057
Outstanding PURCHASE   10413
Effective Units   214470
   
Block reward   25
Difficulty   112,628,549
Hashes per MINING   5000000
   
Daily Dividend    0.00002233
50 days (Min Liquid)    0.00111629
100 days (Forced Close)    0.00223259
365 days (Buyback)    0.00814895
405 days (IPO)    0.00904199
400 days (Post SELLING div)    0.00893036
410 days (Pre SELLING div)    0.00915361
   
NAV Post MINING Div    1,912.85895585
NAV/U Post MINING Div    0.00891900
Days Dividend Post Div   399.49
SELLING Dividend    -         
NAV Post SELLING Div    1,912.85895585
NAV/U Post Selling Div    0.00891900
PURCHASE selling price    0.009365
PURCHASE buy-back price    0.008741
   
J-D House profit at report   6329
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September 16, 2013, 04:24:54 PM
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Will be withdrawing 60 BTC from J-D back to BTC-TC, to get us back just below 10% invested there.  Would have withdrawn already but the J-D server just died right as I was trying to do the withdrawal.  Will try again once it's back up.

EDIT: Withdrawal had actually gone through - server must have died right as it was sending me confirmation.
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