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So what would you guys like me to do? There's no btc left. Everything is in USD. If you sent .7btc at the time it was worth $50, I can only send you $50 because I have no other funds. I don't even have enough in the bank to cover increased value of bitcoin. We need to fix this before btc skyrockets to $500. Then I will be screwed. But for now if you want refund in btc I think the best case is for me to owe you btc until I can mine with asic machines...
Here's a clue: get a refund from KNCMiner on atleast some of the machines until you have enough BTC to cover the people that want refunds. Everyone that doesn't want refunding can be moved onto the remaining machines. Why is that so hard? I think the best case is for me to owe you btc until I can mine with asic machines... lol.. no. That's like saying "I think the best case is for you to let me ponzi you for a few more months" |
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DugOutDad
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August 28, 2013, 09:53:38 AM
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Oh fuck it, just keep me in the GB, sod the refund, the worst that can happen is I get what I'm expecting anyway, to have been scammed.
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dyingdreams
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August 28, 2013, 10:06:51 AM |
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I don't know what this means. Where do you want your bitcoin refunded to? I want to add it to the spreadsheet. 16b3bfLuqJjfyfShzsqu5TB4f5nECCZvYT |
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August 28, 2013, 10:32:17 AM |
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KNCMiner lookeromissing! News: https://www.kncminer.com/newsRaging, I think this GB should recover is transparency. To do so you should: 1) finish the google docs spreadsheet 2) update every bought shares 3) complete the spreadsheet with all the refunds 4) add "shipping days" to every selling (if available by now) 5) whats the status of that company you were talking about? One solution to the refunds gaps on every selling is to include the people waiting for jupiter2, if they agree of course. This is first on my list to do thanks. So far prodigits7 and I are just doing damage control etc Yes due to life changing events I did cause trouble and distress but so far I have done nothing wrong. So what would you guys like me to do? There's no btc left. Everything is in USD. If you sent .7btc at the time it was worth $50, I can only send you $50 because I have no other funds. I don't even have enough in the bank to cover increased value of bitcoin. We need to fix this before btc skyrockets to $500. Then I will be screwed. But for now if you want refund in btc I think the best case is for me to owe you btc until I can mine with asic machines... And you completely ignored what I said. You do realize that we know what you're saying (that you converted the BTC) is an outright lie, right? You just sent the BTC out from your address on the 20th. |
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August 28, 2013, 11:19:25 AM |
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I'd agree with that. Blockchain speaks for itself
Where are our refunds?
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-Buying/Selling graphics cards every month --Buying BTC every month £/$/€200+ wanted ---UK based re-seller of physical bitcoins Click here to buy |
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August 28, 2013, 02:07:30 PM
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I'd like my refund
danieldaniel if you could add me to spreadsheet
Thank you.
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stevenroose
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August 28, 2013, 03:12:11 PM |
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Hey,
I just got a PM from someone, and he has a good point.
It said this: Raginazn gave his login info to John right after the payments were sent from the address (maybe paying the orders).
That would explain why the orders showed up as paid, but it would also make us almost LAST in the shipping queue...
I found it suspicious from the start that the order numbers were hidden. What I don't get is that no one just go look for him and see if there really are the problems he tells us he has. There are tens of thousands of dollars in this thing. If people come at his door, he will realise that he can't just scam that amount of money off people. I'm from Belgium so I'm unable to visit him, but I heard from people hear that don't live too far away from him. What's keeping you from doing so? Just go speak with him about it, see how he reacts and what he says. |
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DugOutDad
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August 28, 2013, 06:03:43 PM |
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Because you never know what he has hidden behind his front door.
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August 28, 2013, 06:39:03 PM
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Because you never know what he has hidden behind his front door.
He is after all a ragingass****, I mean raginazn. Edited: Does this make it better? |
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peterlex
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August 28, 2013, 09:56:12 PM |
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Because you never know what he has hidden behind his front door.
He is after all a ragingasshole, I mean raginazn. Not cool... Lets keep respect... Are you trying to really make him to disapear? Then we will have to create a groupbuy to wire a detective  You have your refund so thanks for your partipation in this project and good luck in the new ones. |
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August 28, 2013, 09:59:18 PM |
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Because you never know what he has hidden behind his front door.
He is after all a ragingass****, I mean raginazn. Not cool... Lets keep respect... Are you trying to really make him to disapear? Then we will have to create a groupbuy to wire a detective You have your refund so thanks for your partipation in this project and good luck in the new ones. Respect? HAHAHA Give me a break, I did get my refund but if I were you guys at this point I would have flown my ass out there and knocked his door down. You guys are so used to being scammed at this point you just suck it up and move on. Time to grow a pair and deal with this like men. |
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ilpirata79
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August 29, 2013, 12:12:28 AM |
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KNCMiner lookeromissing! News: https://www.kncminer.com/newsRaging, I think this GB should recover is transparency. To do so you should: 1) finish the google docs spreadsheet 2) update every bought shares 3) complete the spreadsheet with all the refunds 4) add "shipping days" to every selling (if available by now) 5) whats the status of that company you were talking about? One solution to the refunds gaps on every selling is to include the people waiting for jupiter2, if they agree of course. This is first on my list to do thanks. So far prodigits7 and I are just doing damage control etc Yes due to life changing events I did cause trouble and distress but so far I have done nothing wrong. So what would you guys like me to do? There's no btc left. Everything is in USD. If you sent .7btc at the time it was worth $50, I can only send you $50 because I have no other funds. I don't even have enough in the bank to cover increased value of bitcoin. We need to fix this before btc skyrockets to $500. Then I will be screwed. But for now if you want refund in btc I think the best case is for me to owe you btc until I can mine with asic machines... I would like to have showed the dates when the payments were made... best regards, ilpirata79 |
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August 29, 2013, 01:09:15 AM |
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Raging please update with the payment dates.
If it's on the 20th, well. We'll at the back of the queue and I have a problem with that.
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August 29, 2013, 01:23:30 AM |
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Can someone, maybe danieldaniel or prodigit, explain to me what's going on here? I've been away and just came back today and found that this GB is a mess? Has Rag paid for the 12 kncminers or not? Is he still planning on mining on behalf of us or not? I had a strange feeling from the day 1 about this GB, but I never thought it would come to this???
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jongaper
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August 29, 2013, 01:25:52 AM |
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John K - can you release Raging's information to the customer's that have requested and not received reimbursement
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August 29, 2013, 04:58:36 AM |
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Can someone, maybe danieldaniel or prodigit, explain to me what's going on here? I've been away and just came back today and found that this GB is a mess? Has Rag paid for the 12 kncminers or not? Is he still planning on mining on behalf of us or not? I had a strange feeling from the day 1 about this GB, but I never thought it would come to this???
James, I'm just trying to mediate here along with daniel's help. So far, Ragin has paid for 11 machines and he gave JohnK his KnCMiner account password and JohnK went in and verified all orders had been placed and due for delivery in the next 4 weeks. Since the 12th machine was never completed, as a result, it was never ordered. So for those people who started paying for the 12th, they are due for a refund. As it stands now, some have gotten their refunds but most haven't. But all will get it eventually. The refund process has been a mess but it's starting, albeit very slowly and painfully and I feel for those who are still waiting. I'm trying hard to get everything moving faster but the truth is that people that got impatient and filed disputes with Paypal, actually threw a wrench in the whole refunding process now. So that's where we stand. I have a scheduled conf call with KnCMiner in two hours, I've notified JohnK and Daniel as well. Will post results soon after... |
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August 29, 2013, 10:36:04 AM |
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Can someone, maybe danieldaniel or prodigit, explain to me what's going on here? I've been away and just came back today and found that this GB is a mess? Has Rag paid for the 12 kncminers or not? Is he still planning on mining on behalf of us or not? I had a strange feeling from the day 1 about this GB, but I never thought it would come to this???
James, I'm just trying to mediate here along with daniel's help. So far, Ragin has paid for 11 machines and he gave JohnK his KnCMiner account password and JohnK went in and verified all orders had been placed and due for delivery in the next 4 weeks. Since the 12th machine was never completed, as a result, it was never ordered. So for those people who started paying for the 12th, they are due for a refund. As it stands now, some have gotten their refunds but most haven't. But all will get it eventually. The refund process has been a mess but it's starting, albeit very slowly and painfully and I feel for those who are still waiting. I'm trying hard to get everything moving faster but the truth is that people that got impatient and filed disputes with Paypal, actually threw a wrench in the whole refunding process now. So that's where we stand. I have a scheduled conf call with KnCMiner in two hours, I've notified JohnK and Daniel as well. Will post results soon after... Sorry, I was asleep when you PM'd me about it. How did it go? |
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damiano
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August 29, 2013, 03:20:46 PM |
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I'm on the 12 th miner... When do I get me refund?
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August 29, 2013, 03:21:34 PM |
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The refund process has been a mess but it's starting, albeit very slowly and painfully and I feel for those who are still waiting. I'm trying hard to get everything moving faster but the truth is that people that got impatient and filed disputes with Paypal, actually threw a wrench in the whole refunding process now.
What would you have done in their situation? Scams happen in Bitcoinland. And this GB has many red flags... So that's where we stand. I have a scheduled conf call with KnCMiner in two hours, I've notified JohnK and Daniel as well. Will post results soon after...
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